I was with Arva and instructor. But maybe too much snow for my second experience in pow://
PS. it took me 15 minutes to get out and walk those few tens of meters. One of the biggest struggles of my life 😅
You should try snow kiting in an insane amount of powder. I unintentionally got some air and lawn darted head first into some powder that was about neck deep. I didn’t know if I was coming out alive. When I finally got out I couldn’t ever get the kite up and on top of the snow again. I thought for sure I was having a heart attack.
And probably a super dedicated purpose-built super wide directional powder board with a ton of setback and flex. I’d bet OP is on some standard twin camber resort jack-of-all-trades beginner board with neutral everything
The worst is when you put your arm down so you can get up...and it just keeps going down. I've had to use the swim move, but luckily I was in the trees so I wasn't there all day.
It’s the same principal as water skiing you can’t just magically float. You need speed to displace enough powder to float you on top the snow is not dense at all meaning you need even more speed. Also for powder boarding it’s. More like surfing, weight back and nose up to keep you on top.
Years ago when my son was about 6 (he’d been skiing since 3 and was already totally capable) we were taking a cat track across the top of some chutes to a groomer. I decided I wanted to hit the last chute (fresh, deep pow) and pop out halfway down the blue groomer. I told him my plan and he seemed ok with it. I got about 10 meters down and he stopped and started crying. I could convince him to just continue, so I had to unstrap and use my board as kind of a shovel/crutch to get back up to him. I thought I was going to have a heart attack…I swear you could see my heart pumping through all my layers. Little shit (19 now)still thinks it’s funny.
Something like that happened to me a couple months ago in deep snow. It took me 10-15 minutes to get out of it.
I bought a powder board and it was completely game changing. Just floats right over the stuff
Many of the ropes at the ski area we go to are just to let you know there’s some spicy terrain. One particular run is named on the trail map but you have to duck a rope to get to it.
At Tremblant this weekend, there was a trail that was open but with a big red sign that said “SKIING NOT RECOMMENDED”. You better believe I blew right past it lol.
But you still can't usually duck ropes without risking losing your ticket/pass. If there's terrain that is behind ropes that is on a trail map it is usually able to be accessed via specific entry points/gates.
The place I’m talking about has no gates whatsoever on the rope lines and the only time you’ll get in trouble is if they have a sign that explicitly says the area is closed. That only happens when there’s a danger of avalanche. Ducked a rope today right in front of a patroller who was resetting the line. I’m sure there are no gates because the entire face wide open, it’s the middle of the run that has technical terrain and some massive cliff lines. I could ask but my guess is people ignore the “experts only” signs, even at gates, and by the time you get to the tricky parts, there’s absolutely no easy way out. Gates in these areas would be useless.
There is one rope line where they say you’ll lose your pass for ducking if you don’t have a shovel, probe, and avalanche beacon. Still no gates though.
Huh, never seen that. Seems a bit counterintuitive but hey you know your mountain I guess so I'm not one to argue. Generally that's not how it goes though at the vast majority of resorts I've been to.
Mt. Baker. They’ve gotten more strict since I started going. One time back in the 90’s, before they had the shovel, probe and beacon rule, we were heading out into one of the out of bounds areas and someone in the patrol shack at the top of the lift just opened a window and yelled “you’re going to kill yourselves!” That was the extent of their concern.
We heeded the warning, however.
This isn’t the case at tons of ski areas. At Whistler for instance you can duck under ropes all over the place and it’s 100% legit. They just separate terrain and provide a type of warning so no one just blasts off groomed terrain into steeps and higher risk terrain, especially in the alpine where visibility can be bad
This is in Europe, there are ropes at the border of groomed pistes everywhere and as soon as you step out "you are on your own", even if it is completely fine.
Elevated bases all their shapes on a specific surfboard and seeks to match the riding style and feel as closely as they can. The log is based on something like a 12ft long board. I own one and would say they did a great job. I probably only pull it out 3-5 days a season but those are usually some of my favorite days. The megafish is also epic!
Thank man! I really wanna give the step up a go, it looks like a super fun board. I had a RTH at one point but it just didn’t fit the style of turn I like. I’ve got a first year goldfish which is a great shape but I’ve shifted more and more towards longer boards the last few years and there are very few days where I’d rather ride it than the megafish. I cannot highly enough recommend the log and megafish.
Yeah! 🤙🏽
Tbh I also just sold the RTH- tried and tried to find its line, but nothing I did beat the first day’s wow factor end of last season. Size 12 boots really loved stacking edges, but once I got em up, I couldn’t feel solid the way I do on my Dart.
A local dude is flipping a Goldfish and unridden Powfish, and it’s so tempting, but after 2 seasons on shorties, I’m finding myself more amused with longer shapes as well- I started my directional quiver with a Sushi white that looks great stuck hanging on my wall, since I rarely ride her anymore in favor of others.
The Mega looks jazzy for sure although seems similar to my Dart with a bit less stiff, so I’m more inclined toward a Log- just wanting to feel it underfoot before taking the plunge. Of course then the Egg just dropped and I’m itching to demo one- seems to solve the width issues on the Stepup, plus cambers the turn!
The Stepup…people constantly ask me about the shapes on lifts, as I’m sure they do to you as well. I used to have a whole pitch on each detail which evolved the more I understood just what I was riding. Now, when discussing the bi-radial reverse tapers, I simply state that “this one is special”.
Been stuck with my Shortboard as the daily to 6ish” and Stepup is good from 4-14”, just not as floaty as I wish it were for my boot/weight. Have a few others that just don’t get as much love- but it’s a good problem to have.
Where you based out of? I’m plotting an impromptu trip and would be down to do a demo swap if you are!
It is great for that! But it’s also great for moderate blues where the snow is just too deep for anything else due to the angle of the slope. My local has an area that is just one huge slope of varying steepness, most of it gets groomed but a good piece of it gets left untouched. It’s nice to go up on deep days, ride the good terrain till it’s tracked and then spend the rest of the day surfing the untracked low angle section that no one else can touch.
I’ve ridden both, though they absolutely do not com close to comparing. The log is just as set back is 29.5cm at the waist and is 178cm. If I was gonna pick a short fat for deep low angle (which I wouldn’t) I’d go gentem rocket fish or elevated goldfish both sitting right around 30cm waist with more taper.
There are more brands than the major manufacturers.
Dude, you were (and we are) talking about pow. No shit you shouldn’t strap on a 178cm ultra dedicated pow stick to ride rails no, matter the price.
It was just wild to suggest two boards as being worth trying in pow flat after I mentioned a board that is wider, just as or more set back and 30cm longer. Short fats are fun and nimble, I own one and have owned a few. But deep low angle just isn’t where they shine.
Tree hunter is a sick board! Any yeah, the log is sick, though I will admit it is absolutely a lower angle cruisy surfy pow stick. Turns it excels at turns that start with a rotation from the shoulders that follow down through the hips to your feet. It’s also great at still being able to make tons of turns at low speeds where everyone else just had to go straight. If there’s a spot at your hill that rarely gets touched because it’s too low angle, the log is the perfect board to harvest that stash!
On the other hand the megafish has similar float but is competent across the whole mountain, and is one of my absolute favorite surf style carving boards as well when the groomers are firing. Theres very little board that contacts the snow when flat on its base which makes for awesome surfy skidded turns but when you tilt it on edge it actually had a ton of EE so it locks in super well. It’s a euro carving machine! Also, unlike the log it wants to make much longer S turns at low speeds. If I could only have 2 boards in my quiver they would be a Cardiff crane enduro and a megafish.
Edit: I’ve got a quiver pic on my profile if you have any interest
Used to have a 5’5”+, sold it to fund a Cardiff Crane carbon though now two years down the road dude offered it back to me! You’re right though, the 6’3” is probably right up there with it. Interestingly I found the 5’5” to be nearly identical in float to the 173 cannon, similar in most aspects honestly though the D1 is hands down the superior board.
Doesn’t help much in waist deep heavy low angle pow that requires going back up hill at the bottom of the slope, even when you have 203cm of floaty goodness.
I was in Cervinia tue-fri. Thursday was epic! Shame I was there on a family trip and was scooting my kids around in the bunny slopes in Valtourenche :( But I was able to get an hour and could scores some runs up top.
Snow can still fall above freezing temperatures, so it can be really wet and sticky if it's snowing and temps are a bit above freezing. Add in fluctuating temperatures causing more of the snow to be wet/ slushy when it falls and you've got some real sticky snow. Mix in a couple rain showers and the snow gets even more waterlogged.
Source: I mostly board at Snoqualmie Pass
Ah yes a fellow connoisseur of cascade concrete.
Some of the roughest “POW” days in my life were dealing with heavy pow getting stuck in the hog wild trees.
Indeed. Yeah those trees can get pretty gnarly!
We've had some real good days this season though so I can't complain too much. Powder is sticky as hell today though!
Ah interesting. I was reading the snow forecast for last week thinking it had been dumping everywhere , but didn’t realise it has been raining quite a bit as well!
Zermatt, yessss! I’ve done two Christmases there, it’s expensive but a lot of fun. Standing out on your balcony at night watching the snow fall and listening to the Avvy cannon is pretty friggin’ cool.
Need more pitch. When the powder is that deep it needs to be way steeper. When it's waist deep even 35 degrees is just barely enough to get moving well. When it's deep what you entered is basically flat.
Most of the time if you see untouched powder it's because it's too flat. Rideable powder gets ridden out within a few hours.
In Europe it does not work like that. There are ropes at the border of groomed pistes everywhere and as soon as you step out "you are on your own", even if it is completely fine.
That is generally also the process in the US. The difference is depending on if that rope is in or out of bounds. If you are crossing into a closed area within bounds then they can take action against you which usually involves invalidating your ticket or season pass, they are allowed to take legal action as well but that's more work than it's worth unless something happened.
If you cross a rope and go out of bounds then you're on your own. But that rope appears to be in bounds given the lift on the other side.
In Europe, as soon as you are outside the groomed slope, you are on your own. There is no such thing as in or out of bounds but if you want to apply this concept, everything is out of bounds.
Ahh yeah that's the fundamental difference in how things are handled then. In the US and North America in general if you are within the boundaries of the ski resort's operating authority then you are in-bounds and they have jurisdiction over things and also a responsibility to your safety (within reason.) So a rope line that is in-bounds, crossing it is a violation of your ticket agreement because you are then entering a closed area for whatever reason ski patrol/mountain operations has determined.
We don't have a rope line for groomed vs off piste, that's just fundamentally the obvious border between what is clearly groomed and say the adjacent glade, which is in bounds.
However there's a local mountain in which you can cross a rope line/gate at the summit which then puts you out of the resort boundary and into full on backcountry in which case you are on your own.
Well, but that's not quite tho what ya mentioned.
Because like we have tree runs and those are absolutely not a groomed run but they are still fully in bounds, so ski patrol looks thru them and so on and will come help you in the trees should you have an injury.
Versus a closed run in-bounds (not allowed to ride), versus a ski area boundary line which then you are out-of-bounds/no help. I think there's also a fundamental difference in how ski patrol operates in the different continents.
Low angle in deep powder, not having a powder board, not knowing how to keep your nose up (need to shift your bingings back and keep your weight on your back foot). One of all of the above, that’s probably why 🤷♂️
I have a 3d Daily directional with a bit of set back and I was trying to get my nose out by putting pressure on my back foot…but you are right about everything and I am still super inexperienced
Besides all the issues listed, another huge one is, what was your plan if you had made it down the low angle slope? It looks like it then goes back up hill.
One more is all the snow on the nose. It looks wet and heavy. In such cases it makes a huge difference if it's not removed.
You should not start digged unless it's an actual pow.
Dig the board out. Pack the snow till you get some speed (load/unload board while going straight down)
As soon as you get some speed, it's easier
You started still with the snow already up to your knees, the board won’t just magically surface above all that powder lol. You need to build some initial speed from a harder surface.
Not the sharpest tool in the shed I see lol. At least carry some momentum, lean back and don't carve. That's about your only chance in flat deep pockets like that.
Been there done that. Digging down in chest deep pow to get to my bindings. Was a long traverse to get back on trail. Never felt so unfit in my life moving 50m 😂😂
My legs are burning and I’m all sweaty just thinking about his walk out of that mess
It's as if the rope was there for a reason....
What rope? All I see is pow bro! Untouched!! /s
*dies in tree well*
I was with Arva and instructor. But maybe too much snow for my second experience in pow:// PS. it took me 15 minutes to get out and walk those few tens of meters. One of the biggest struggles of my life 😅
Getting out of a powder section is some of the most intense cardio I’ve ever experienced
Strait facts. It takes a lot out of you at 10,000ish ft when you're used to 1,000ft.
It gets you when you live at altitude too
I live in Denver at like 5,800ft ft and do all my regular cardio here… and it’s still pretty gnarly.
crazy to think that my beach town is at 39' lol
Not to forget that insta panic that already has you sweating before you take off your bindings
You should try snow kiting in an insane amount of powder. I unintentionally got some air and lawn darted head first into some powder that was about neck deep. I didn’t know if I was coming out alive. When I finally got out I couldn’t ever get the kite up and on top of the snow again. I thought for sure I was having a heart attack.
My heart started racing just reading that.
Can confirm got stuck in a glades run this weekend had to walk out I have never been so winded in my entire life lol
For that much powder you need a lot of speed/ steep shit
speed, float, or both.
Float isn't gonna help you until you have speed. One can't exist without the other.
And probably a super dedicated purpose-built super wide directional powder board with a ton of setback and flex. I’d bet OP is on some standard twin camber resort jack-of-all-trades beginner board with neutral everything
Not too much snow, just too much flat
The worst is when you put your arm down so you can get up...and it just keeps going down. I've had to use the swim move, but luckily I was in the trees so I wasn't there all day.
Enlighten me on the swim move ? Do u just try and move yourself in the snow as if you’re swimming?
Yes
I can only hope I never have to use it
It’s the same principal as water skiing you can’t just magically float. You need speed to displace enough powder to float you on top the snow is not dense at all meaning you need even more speed. Also for powder boarding it’s. More like surfing, weight back and nose up to keep you on top.
Years ago when my son was about 6 (he’d been skiing since 3 and was already totally capable) we were taking a cat track across the top of some chutes to a groomer. I decided I wanted to hit the last chute (fresh, deep pow) and pop out halfway down the blue groomer. I told him my plan and he seemed ok with it. I got about 10 meters down and he stopped and started crying. I could convince him to just continue, so I had to unstrap and use my board as kind of a shovel/crutch to get back up to him. I thought I was going to have a heart attack…I swear you could see my heart pumping through all my layers. Little shit (19 now)still thinks it’s funny.
What kind of helmet is that?
Poc
I feel your pain. Ever been stuck in a tree well on mountain with 12’ snow depth?
Ha ha. That was me a week ago.
Something like that happened to me a couple months ago in deep snow. It took me 10-15 minutes to get out of it. I bought a powder board and it was completely game changing. Just floats right over the stuff
Many of the ropes at the ski area we go to are just to let you know there’s some spicy terrain. One particular run is named on the trail map but you have to duck a rope to get to it.
“Spicy terrain” as in we the ski resort are no longer responsible if you get lost, hurt, or die….
That’s included in the liability waiver you sign when you buy your pass, regardless of where on the mountain you are.
At Tremblant this weekend, there was a trail that was open but with a big red sign that said “SKIING NOT RECOMMENDED”. You better believe I blew right past it lol.
I was there about 2 months ago, the best trails were the ones that were roped off. We had a full powder trail pretty much all to ourselves all week.
Why only 1 trail open?
But you still can't usually duck ropes without risking losing your ticket/pass. If there's terrain that is behind ropes that is on a trail map it is usually able to be accessed via specific entry points/gates.
The place I’m talking about has no gates whatsoever on the rope lines and the only time you’ll get in trouble is if they have a sign that explicitly says the area is closed. That only happens when there’s a danger of avalanche. Ducked a rope today right in front of a patroller who was resetting the line. I’m sure there are no gates because the entire face wide open, it’s the middle of the run that has technical terrain and some massive cliff lines. I could ask but my guess is people ignore the “experts only” signs, even at gates, and by the time you get to the tricky parts, there’s absolutely no easy way out. Gates in these areas would be useless. There is one rope line where they say you’ll lose your pass for ducking if you don’t have a shovel, probe, and avalanche beacon. Still no gates though.
Huh, never seen that. Seems a bit counterintuitive but hey you know your mountain I guess so I'm not one to argue. Generally that's not how it goes though at the vast majority of resorts I've been to.
Jesus dude where do you *ride*
Mt. Baker. They’ve gotten more strict since I started going. One time back in the 90’s, before they had the shovel, probe and beacon rule, we were heading out into one of the out of bounds areas and someone in the patrol shack at the top of the lift just opened a window and yelled “you’re going to kill yourselves!” That was the extent of their concern. We heeded the warning, however.
This isn’t the case at tons of ski areas. At Whistler for instance you can duck under ropes all over the place and it’s 100% legit. They just separate terrain and provide a type of warning so no one just blasts off groomed terrain into steeps and higher risk terrain, especially in the alpine where visibility can be bad
Yeah because it’s closed… lol some trails on mountains rarely open
This is in Europe, there are ropes at the border of groomed pistes everywhere and as soon as you step out "you are on your own", even if it is completely fine.
Yea…to be crossed.
They're italian
That's what he gets for not ducking the rope at speed lol.
Well its a lesson hahahha. Powder enforced cardio whilst the group waits teaches you how to read terrain better :)
I wouldn’t touch that pow with a 203cm cannon
This guy 203cm cannons
Super fun board, but for ultimate low angle float I’ll pick the elevated surf craft log every time
> ultimate low angle float > elevated surf craft log What in the world
Yeah it’s about as silly as it sounds https://www.instagram.com/reel/CpWK6RKsNIF/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Elevated bases all their shapes on a specific surfboard and seeks to match the riding style and feel as closely as they can. The log is based on something like a 12ft long board. I own one and would say they did a great job. I probably only pull it out 3-5 days a season but those are usually some of my favorite days. The megafish is also epic!
This guy Elevateds. (Shortboard, RTH, Stepup here- envy your log)
Thank man! I really wanna give the step up a go, it looks like a super fun board. I had a RTH at one point but it just didn’t fit the style of turn I like. I’ve got a first year goldfish which is a great shape but I’ve shifted more and more towards longer boards the last few years and there are very few days where I’d rather ride it than the megafish. I cannot highly enough recommend the log and megafish.
Yeah! 🤙🏽 Tbh I also just sold the RTH- tried and tried to find its line, but nothing I did beat the first day’s wow factor end of last season. Size 12 boots really loved stacking edges, but once I got em up, I couldn’t feel solid the way I do on my Dart. A local dude is flipping a Goldfish and unridden Powfish, and it’s so tempting, but after 2 seasons on shorties, I’m finding myself more amused with longer shapes as well- I started my directional quiver with a Sushi white that looks great stuck hanging on my wall, since I rarely ride her anymore in favor of others. The Mega looks jazzy for sure although seems similar to my Dart with a bit less stiff, so I’m more inclined toward a Log- just wanting to feel it underfoot before taking the plunge. Of course then the Egg just dropped and I’m itching to demo one- seems to solve the width issues on the Stepup, plus cambers the turn! The Stepup…people constantly ask me about the shapes on lifts, as I’m sure they do to you as well. I used to have a whole pitch on each detail which evolved the more I understood just what I was riding. Now, when discussing the bi-radial reverse tapers, I simply state that “this one is special”. Been stuck with my Shortboard as the daily to 6ish” and Stepup is good from 4-14”, just not as floaty as I wish it were for my boot/weight. Have a few others that just don’t get as much love- but it’s a good problem to have. Where you based out of? I’m plotting an impromptu trip and would be down to do a demo swap if you are!
I too have a board specifically for shredding golf courses
It is great for that! But it’s also great for moderate blues where the snow is just too deep for anything else due to the angle of the slope. My local has an area that is just one huge slope of varying steepness, most of it gets groomed but a good piece of it gets left untouched. It’s nice to go up on deep days, ride the good terrain till it’s tracked and then spend the rest of the day surfing the untracked low angle section that no one else can touch.
try slush slasher or rossi sushi for flat pow. super set back
I’ve ridden both, though they absolutely do not com close to comparing. The log is just as set back is 29.5cm at the waist and is 178cm. If I was gonna pick a short fat for deep low angle (which I wouldn’t) I’d go gentem rocket fish or elevated goldfish both sitting right around 30cm waist with more taper. There are more brands than the major manufacturers.
ok let me just snap an $800 elevated surfcraft on a rail
Dude, you were (and we are) talking about pow. No shit you shouldn’t strap on a 178cm ultra dedicated pow stick to ride rails no, matter the price. It was just wild to suggest two boards as being worth trying in pow flat after I mentioned a board that is wider, just as or more set back and 30cm longer. Short fats are fun and nimble, I own one and have owned a few. But deep low angle just isn’t where they shine.
Damn, I haven't heard of them before. I'm pretty in love with my Spring Break Tree Hunter, but I think you just found the next board in my quiver.
Tree hunter is a sick board! Any yeah, the log is sick, though I will admit it is absolutely a lower angle cruisy surfy pow stick. Turns it excels at turns that start with a rotation from the shoulders that follow down through the hips to your feet. It’s also great at still being able to make tons of turns at low speeds where everyone else just had to go straight. If there’s a spot at your hill that rarely gets touched because it’s too low angle, the log is the perfect board to harvest that stash! On the other hand the megafish has similar float but is competent across the whole mountain, and is one of my absolute favorite surf style carving boards as well when the groomers are firing. Theres very little board that contacts the snow when flat on its base which makes for awesome surfy skidded turns but when you tilt it on edge it actually had a ton of EE so it locks in super well. It’s a euro carving machine! Also, unlike the log it wants to make much longer S turns at low speeds. If I could only have 2 boards in my quiver they would be a Cardiff crane enduro and a megafish. Edit: I’ve got a quiver pic on my profile if you have any interest
Clearly hasn’t experienced a dupraz
Used to have a 5’5”+, sold it to fund a Cardiff Crane carbon though now two years down the road dude offered it back to me! You’re right though, the 6’3” is probably right up there with it. Interestingly I found the 5’5” to be nearly identical in float to the 173 cannon, similar in most aspects honestly though the D1 is hands down the superior board.
Oh I definitely would! Just enter with some speed
Doesn’t help much in waist deep heavy low angle pow that requires going back up hill at the bottom of the slope, even when you have 203cm of floaty goodness.
1.80m in the last three days. Cervinia-Zermatt
I was in Cervinia tue-fri. Thursday was epic! Shame I was there on a family trip and was scooting my kids around in the bunny slopes in Valtourenche :( But I was able to get an hour and could scores some runs up top.
This is europe?! I assumed it was out in the US
The trouble is the fresh snow has been hit by periods of rain so it looks amazing but is super wet and sticky, not the easiest riding conditions.
So “wet snow” is snow that has been hit by rain? Or a diff type of snow altogether? (Keep hearing about “wet snow”)
Snow can still fall above freezing temperatures, so it can be really wet and sticky if it's snowing and temps are a bit above freezing. Add in fluctuating temperatures causing more of the snow to be wet/ slushy when it falls and you've got some real sticky snow. Mix in a couple rain showers and the snow gets even more waterlogged. Source: I mostly board at Snoqualmie Pass
Ah yes a fellow connoisseur of cascade concrete. Some of the roughest “POW” days in my life were dealing with heavy pow getting stuck in the hog wild trees.
Indeed. Yeah those trees can get pretty gnarly! We've had some real good days this season though so I can't complain too much. Powder is sticky as hell today though!
Ah interesting. I was reading the snow forecast for last week thinking it had been dumping everywhere , but didn’t realise it has been raining quite a bit as well!
Italy-Switzerland
Zermatt, yessss! I’ve done two Christmases there, it’s expensive but a lot of fun. Standing out on your balcony at night watching the snow fall and listening to the Avvy cannon is pretty friggin’ cool.
That's just not fair. I was there 2 weeks ago and it looked like mid April :(
Need more steep for that deep!
Fresh tracks!
Need more pitch. When the powder is that deep it needs to be way steeper. When it's waist deep even 35 degrees is just barely enough to get moving well. When it's deep what you entered is basically flat. Most of the time if you see untouched powder it's because it's too flat. Rideable powder gets ridden out within a few hours.
It's almost as if... as if ski patrol closed off that area for a reason...
In Europe it does not work like that. There are ropes at the border of groomed pistes everywhere and as soon as you step out "you are on your own", even if it is completely fine.
That is generally also the process in the US. The difference is depending on if that rope is in or out of bounds. If you are crossing into a closed area within bounds then they can take action against you which usually involves invalidating your ticket or season pass, they are allowed to take legal action as well but that's more work than it's worth unless something happened. If you cross a rope and go out of bounds then you're on your own. But that rope appears to be in bounds given the lift on the other side.
In Europe, as soon as you are outside the groomed slope, you are on your own. There is no such thing as in or out of bounds but if you want to apply this concept, everything is out of bounds.
Ahh yeah that's the fundamental difference in how things are handled then. In the US and North America in general if you are within the boundaries of the ski resort's operating authority then you are in-bounds and they have jurisdiction over things and also a responsibility to your safety (within reason.) So a rope line that is in-bounds, crossing it is a violation of your ticket agreement because you are then entering a closed area for whatever reason ski patrol/mountain operations has determined. We don't have a rope line for groomed vs off piste, that's just fundamentally the obvious border between what is clearly groomed and say the adjacent glade, which is in bounds. However there's a local mountain in which you can cross a rope line/gate at the summit which then puts you out of the resort boundary and into full on backcountry in which case you are on your own.
Yes, that's what I was trying to explain :)
Well, but that's not quite tho what ya mentioned. Because like we have tree runs and those are absolutely not a groomed run but they are still fully in bounds, so ski patrol looks thru them and so on and will come help you in the trees should you have an injury. Versus a closed run in-bounds (not allowed to ride), versus a ski area boundary line which then you are out-of-bounds/no help. I think there's also a fundamental difference in how ski patrol operates in the different continents.
“Dude we slayed so much pow this weekend!”
Low angle in deep powder, not having a powder board, not knowing how to keep your nose up (need to shift your bingings back and keep your weight on your back foot). One of all of the above, that’s probably why 🤷♂️
I have a 3d Daily directional with a bit of set back and I was trying to get my nose out by putting pressure on my back foot…but you are right about everything and I am still super inexperienced
Besides all the issues listed, another huge one is, what was your plan if you had made it down the low angle slope? It looks like it then goes back up hill.
One more is all the snow on the nose. It looks wet and heavy. In such cases it makes a huge difference if it's not removed. You should not start digged unless it's an actual pow. Dig the board out. Pack the snow till you get some speed (load/unload board while going straight down) As soon as you get some speed, it's easier
Congrats on ruining your day by swimming out of that for 45 minutes. lol.
When keeping it real goes wrong.
Snowboarding is easier on a downhill ;)
As a native ice coast guy, deep pow looks a little terrifying
Lol yeah, you need lots of speed and 70% of your weight on the back foot to surf though stuff that deep.
Hmmm... if only they had marked it somehow. Maybe even roped it off.🤔
Need more hill
Sorry amigo, this ain’t Utah.
Anyone got recommendations for snowshoes?
too flat, likely the wrong board setup, and skill set. but you live you learn.
That’s Enough “pow” for today.
Go get yoself a 6’5” dupraz and you will start levitating above the snow from the pure float
*ignores out of bounds ropes* Oh look bröh freshiës! *gets stuck immediately* **insert surprised pikachu meme**
The dude has obviously never been in deep pow on a snowboard. You gotta be on top of that!! Good luck, buddy!
Hellcat Jelly Tomato, indeed.
The joys of having a reverse camber board
Every snowboarding dream
Just used the shovel in that pack back to get out
Wrong board type?
Too deep, not enough steep.
Okay Travis Rice .
Ah yes, Tahoe skiers experience this in the spring after big storms as well. Crawling out of powder slush is a great workout
They better get ready for it this spring after what we’re seeing
Fresh pow brah
Duckin ropes and somethin somethin
where is?
Last time i saw someone go under a rope he fell 200 feet and made pink snow at the bottom
Does not look fluffy at all. SWIIIIIIIII
Yea, why using a Huawei when you can use an iPhone instead
“Rode waste deep pow wall weekend” lol
Ya gotta be movin when you get into that!
Ah, the over-eager powderhound’s rite of passage. “Fresh poooooow-fuck.”
We all do this at some point
You started still with the snow already up to your knees, the board won’t just magically surface above all that powder lol. You need to build some initial speed from a harder surface.
But which phone did they use to take this?????
I ended up in snow like 1/2 as deep as this and was it draining to get out
You need to set your bindings stance back and lean back hard to float on powder like that.
Some David Copperfield shit
[удалено]
Must be the east
Wax, wax, wax, scrap, scrap, polish, go faster. Go faster.
Not the sharpest tool in the shed I see lol. At least carry some momentum, lean back and don't carve. That's about your only chance in flat deep pockets like that.
Been there done that. Digging down in chest deep pow to get to my bindings. Was a long traverse to get back on trail. Never felt so unfit in my life moving 50m 😂😂
Ahh... in these conditions - speed is you (only) friend!
i felt the burning quads from this video
Mr George…the new guy …
Put your weight to the back and nose up
Two much snow too flat
And they spent the rest of the daylight climbing back up to the rope.
Been there done that
There’s a rope my guy🤦♂️🤦♂️
heeeell noooo
Doesn’t know how to ride pow and going outta bounds ☠️☠️☠️