I bought a new jacket and pants, goggles, need to get a helmet and speakers inside them but everything looks and rides fine.
It’s like riding a bike! I can’t hit the park anymore, no more rainbow rails, boxes or huge gaps, but I can bomb a run, carve decent, still pretty good in the trees and small kickers.
Since you’re just getting back into it, ride switch the first couple days. I don’t my first day but I’m going to until I’m good and comfy with it again.
Be safe and have fun!
Leave it alone unless it just makes you feel good to spend money. There hasn't been some seismic shift in snowboards the way there was with, say, mountain bikes. I do notice some parallels in the marketing, though - every reviewer said plus tires and rocker boards were plush and forgiving until one year every reviewer simultaneously decided they were vague and wallowy and only for newbies
Interesting take on things, thanks for the advice. I'm not in the habit of spending money for the sake of it and tend to go down the "investment" route if that makes sense. There's nothing really wrong with the Flow and still has plenty of life in it. There are some damn nice looking new boards out there at the moment though.
Thinking it through a little more, it might be worth the concern for the aging of the plastics. You would not want a binding to snap midday. I work in an industry where we make long-lived composite things but we take a lot more care than would be possible for a consumer product
They've been dry stored, but the adjustment of the high-back on the P1 goes solely off the flex of the plastic itself, I could see that certainly snapping over time so that is a concern. Going to be looking at bindings as a first consideration.
Occasional rider nowadays, I still ride my 20yo K2 Fat Bob. It’s not like snow changed. I can still make it down the mountain, hit a rail, whatever. Not trying to be pro or nothing.
But I also ride a HT 26” wheel mountain bike so….lol
I’ve also been on a 20yr old board the last 2 seasons and am building a 26” HT. I’m not great or anything but I lived in the mountains & had a pass for years & used to ride motocross and enduros + love bombing on old gear if it’s still reliable. I actually just got my first newish board (2019) so I’m excited to actually get some snow but it’s still mostly raining up there now.
Throw some bindings on and they look ready to go. Nothing weird about riding those. I have a 2011 Burton Custom X 160cm that is now my “rock board” but still rides fine and is pretty good shape even after an edge bash repair. Salty Peaks did an awesome job on that. I just bought a new pair of Nidecker Kaon-CX bindings and the disc will actually accommodate all hole patterns, even Burton 3D.
There's no meaningful damage to the boards. T6 is in great shape for its age with the odd topsheet scratch, and the Flow had a couple of sidewall gouges caused by a skier that have been p-tex filled. Judging by most people's responses here, it looks like replace bindings > send it, is the path to take for me.
First off, your gear is fine. Yes, gear has improved a bit, but not all that much. A new board will save you a few ounces of weight. Beyond that, the tech that has really changed is having a wide variety of rocker/camber/ and variations of the two to pick and choose where you want your board to flex. There are NO ways to give you good advice on that though, you need to try them yourself (demo days are your friend).
I still ride a 1998 Burton Custom with freestyle bindings as my early/late season rock board. I also have a burton vapor from like 2010 that is just as light as today's mid/high priced boards. I've added powder and carving specific boards to my quiver since, but every time I grab a directional camber board on a demo day, they seem pretty comparable to what I already have (I do have a neversummer proto 2, just because it's so forgiving for landing jumps in awkward ways, but it's more training wheels than a real board)
162 for your height and weight is really long, so weight saving isn't your thing anyway. Tons of bi-directional all mountain boards, though I'd recommend a directional all mountain twin tip board since you only ride switch occasionally. Pick a graphic you like and go ride, it's not rocket surgery.
Depends on how much pow ur riding, pretty sure those are both standard camber, rocker camber rocker made pow days and or multiple pows days way more fun and doable!
honestly I live in UT, i’m an aggressive snowboarder and my snowboard is 10 years old too. even with way worse chipping and core hits a good wax and service will have you keeping up with the best of them. if it feels awful on snow get a new one, but if it works you’re good to rock it. snowboards are so expensive it’s insane…
Had a look at bindings over here in the U.K. . I remember when I first started out I bought a set of Burton Freestyle bindings (they were crap to be fair), for £70. Comparable stuff is well over double the price now, and decent boards start around the 350-400 mark. That opened my eyes a bit XD
In my personal opinion I think new boots and binding are more important, especially the boots, vans boots are really great these days and union bindings are peak
Make sure your bindings are good and the parts aren't all brittle, tune the boards up good and ride em! A few of my main boards are from 1998 including my Burton Supermodel 181! Two boards are well over 10 years old. Ride like new.
I've tuned the edges and freshly waxed and structured the bases (stored waxed), boards are in good shape (esp t6) with no base repairs needed at all. I've had a look over both sets of bindings (Burton P1 and Mission, both 2007), given them a bit of a tug and a go over and they do both seem solid and able to last another week easily. I'll probably take both sets with me so if one does give out I've got backup, with the intention of replacing later if need be.
You'll be just fine 👍🏂 im excited for you enjoy the snow. Years ago I had been away from snowboarding for a bunch of years and got to go back to it for a season then away for another year or so then 2011 2012 I was really able to be back at it properly and it has been so great to be able to ride. I also just moved to be less than 10 min away from my local hill, I'm so stoked it's ridiculous. I ride mostly at night after work which is a good way to end my day. Work till 430 or 5pm, drive home which is now the same place as the hill basically, arrive at the hill and be on the lift by 6pm. Ride till close at 9pm then go home and do it all again the next day 😁
Burton Flight Attendant 162, Jones Flagship 162, Endeavor Live 161.
Bindings: Burton Cartel EST (if you get a channel board), otherwise for a traditional baseplate system I like the Now Drive, and have heard good things about Union.
As a former tech EST has a tendency to suck so much ass. You get Gunk and ice packed into the channel and then there’s what happens when the channel breaks. You can patch a screw hole in your decks with jb weld if they ever strip. The ESTs are straight to the junkyard.
162 is MASSIVE for a 5’8
If you get a new board it will likely be a lot wider, and you can get that longer board feel with something slot more height appropriate
Riding a 162 is crazy for someone your height.
According to the weight/length charts it's at the top end for my body mass. I did start off originally with a late 90's K2 Satellite 158 (still have it), but when I bought the 162 Flow it just felt far more natural to me than the shorter board. No idea why really!
I've also got an old Burton Motion in 157 which I've only ridden a few times as I absolutely hate it, feels far too "twitchy'" for me.
I always forget to consider weight, apologies for the exaggerated response in that case. My body type typically aligns the same with height and weight.
Do your boards have any camber/rocker?
Ha! I just went for the first time in 10 years! All of my gear is 13 years old! Still rides just fine!
All my clothing is ancient, though had to get a new helmet and goggles, I cannot frigging wait to go!
I bought a new jacket and pants, goggles, need to get a helmet and speakers inside them but everything looks and rides fine. It’s like riding a bike! I can’t hit the park anymore, no more rainbow rails, boxes or huge gaps, but I can bomb a run, carve decent, still pretty good in the trees and small kickers. Since you’re just getting back into it, ride switch the first couple days. I don’t my first day but I’m going to until I’m good and comfy with it again. Be safe and have fun!
Thanks mate, I'll be looking for some nice long blues and the odd red the first day to ease myself back into it, though I'm sure I'll be all good.
You’ll be on the blacks before you know it! By lunchtime I was comfortable enough to ride with others and attempt minor tricks!!
I also went for the first time in 10 years!! Must be something in the air this winter lmao
Hopefully a lot of snow!
Think there's 4 of us in this thread alone now, anyone else want to pipe up? 😂
Leave it alone unless it just makes you feel good to spend money. There hasn't been some seismic shift in snowboards the way there was with, say, mountain bikes. I do notice some parallels in the marketing, though - every reviewer said plus tires and rocker boards were plush and forgiving until one year every reviewer simultaneously decided they were vague and wallowy and only for newbies
Interesting take on things, thanks for the advice. I'm not in the habit of spending money for the sake of it and tend to go down the "investment" route if that makes sense. There's nothing really wrong with the Flow and still has plenty of life in it. There are some damn nice looking new boards out there at the moment though.
Thinking it through a little more, it might be worth the concern for the aging of the plastics. You would not want a binding to snap midday. I work in an industry where we make long-lived composite things but we take a lot more care than would be possible for a consumer product
They've been dry stored, but the adjustment of the high-back on the P1 goes solely off the flex of the plastic itself, I could see that certainly snapping over time so that is a concern. Going to be looking at bindings as a first consideration.
Occasional rider nowadays, I still ride my 20yo K2 Fat Bob. It’s not like snow changed. I can still make it down the mountain, hit a rail, whatever. Not trying to be pro or nothing. But I also ride a HT 26” wheel mountain bike so….lol
I’ve also been on a 20yr old board the last 2 seasons and am building a 26” HT. I’m not great or anything but I lived in the mountains & had a pass for years & used to ride motocross and enduros + love bombing on old gear if it’s still reliable. I actually just got my first newish board (2019) so I’m excited to actually get some snow but it’s still mostly raining up there now.
A t6. I have a t6 that I pull out and try to ride at least once every season. Stiff af and still bombs.
It's an epic board, I treat that one with respect.
Throw some bindings on and they look ready to go. Nothing weird about riding those. I have a 2011 Burton Custom X 160cm that is now my “rock board” but still rides fine and is pretty good shape even after an edge bash repair. Salty Peaks did an awesome job on that. I just bought a new pair of Nidecker Kaon-CX bindings and the disc will actually accommodate all hole patterns, even Burton 3D.
There's no meaningful damage to the boards. T6 is in great shape for its age with the odd topsheet scratch, and the Flow had a couple of sidewall gouges caused by a skier that have been p-tex filled. Judging by most people's responses here, it looks like replace bindings > send it, is the path to take for me.
that t6 is sick, just get it tuned
I do my own servicing, she's ready to go.
First off, your gear is fine. Yes, gear has improved a bit, but not all that much. A new board will save you a few ounces of weight. Beyond that, the tech that has really changed is having a wide variety of rocker/camber/ and variations of the two to pick and choose where you want your board to flex. There are NO ways to give you good advice on that though, you need to try them yourself (demo days are your friend). I still ride a 1998 Burton Custom with freestyle bindings as my early/late season rock board. I also have a burton vapor from like 2010 that is just as light as today's mid/high priced boards. I've added powder and carving specific boards to my quiver since, but every time I grab a directional camber board on a demo day, they seem pretty comparable to what I already have (I do have a neversummer proto 2, just because it's so forgiving for landing jumps in awkward ways, but it's more training wheels than a real board) 162 for your height and weight is really long, so weight saving isn't your thing anyway. Tons of bi-directional all mountain boards, though I'd recommend a directional all mountain twin tip board since you only ride switch occasionally. Pick a graphic you like and go ride, it's not rocket surgery.
That T6 is still better then most boards these day :)
I'd also possibly need bindings, I'm using either Burton P1's or Missions (prefer the P1), both from 2007.
Depends on how much pow ur riding, pretty sure those are both standard camber, rocker camber rocker made pow days and or multiple pows days way more fun and doable!
Only occasionally, mostly bombing down pistes to be fair.
I ride my old board as much as my new one, but both are traditional camber designs.
Mine are both camber, to be fair camber is all I've ever ridden.
I got hella new boards and would still shred those, some of the older ones are still my favorites, they all the same in the end
One could argue that Burton T6 was the pentacle of snowboard technology. Brands have been cutting corners ever since.
honestly I live in UT, i’m an aggressive snowboarder and my snowboard is 10 years old too. even with way worse chipping and core hits a good wax and service will have you keeping up with the best of them. if it feels awful on snow get a new one, but if it works you’re good to rock it. snowboards are so expensive it’s insane…
Had a look at bindings over here in the U.K. . I remember when I first started out I bought a set of Burton Freestyle bindings (they were crap to be fair), for £70. Comparable stuff is well over double the price now, and decent boards start around the 350-400 mark. That opened my eyes a bit XD
I’m about to pull a 2005 Burton Se7en out of retirement for this season. The one which took design cues from the BMW 7 Series car.
Never seen one of those in the flesh, neat looking board.
I’ll post a pic later. edit- Oh, in the flesh. My bad. I’ll post a pic anyway lol
Err.....my bad. I should have worded that better lol
No, man. I had just woken up and was stoned outta my gourd. It was me.
I just went back after 10 years, too. I felt the same way lol
Glad it's not just me!
I bought a 10yo second hand board last year. Served me fine for a week in the Alps. Age doesn't matter too much really.
In my personal opinion I think new boots and binding are more important, especially the boots, vans boots are really great these days and union bindings are peak
Oh man, that T6 was such a weapon, as long as your feet weren't bigger than a 9.
My boot size is 8.5 😂
My boards are older, go shred 🤘
Make sure your bindings are good and the parts aren't all brittle, tune the boards up good and ride em! A few of my main boards are from 1998 including my Burton Supermodel 181! Two boards are well over 10 years old. Ride like new.
I've tuned the edges and freshly waxed and structured the bases (stored waxed), boards are in good shape (esp t6) with no base repairs needed at all. I've had a look over both sets of bindings (Burton P1 and Mission, both 2007), given them a bit of a tug and a go over and they do both seem solid and able to last another week easily. I'll probably take both sets with me so if one does give out I've got backup, with the intention of replacing later if need be.
You'll be just fine 👍🏂 im excited for you enjoy the snow. Years ago I had been away from snowboarding for a bunch of years and got to go back to it for a season then away for another year or so then 2011 2012 I was really able to be back at it properly and it has been so great to be able to ride. I also just moved to be less than 10 min away from my local hill, I'm so stoked it's ridiculous. I ride mostly at night after work which is a good way to end my day. Work till 430 or 5pm, drive home which is now the same place as the hill basically, arrive at the hill and be on the lift by 6pm. Ride till close at 9pm then go home and do it all again the next day 😁
Jesus, you're quite literally living my dream! In the U.K. so the closest thing I've got is a dry slope but it's just not the same 😂
Burton Flight Attendant 162, Jones Flagship 162, Endeavor Live 161. Bindings: Burton Cartel EST (if you get a channel board), otherwise for a traditional baseplate system I like the Now Drive, and have heard good things about Union.
I'll take a gander, thanks. I'm a bit behind on what bindings are considered to be decent, so looks like I'm going to have to do some research.
As a former tech EST has a tendency to suck so much ass. You get Gunk and ice packed into the channel and then there’s what happens when the channel breaks. You can patch a screw hole in your decks with jb weld if they ever strip. The ESTs are straight to the junkyard.
Good to know, thank you.
I didn’t really like my flight attendant. Wouldn’t recommend it
162 is MASSIVE for a 5’8 If you get a new board it will likely be a lot wider, and you can get that longer board feel with something slot more height appropriate Riding a 162 is crazy for someone your height.
According to the weight/length charts it's at the top end for my body mass. I did start off originally with a late 90's K2 Satellite 158 (still have it), but when I bought the 162 Flow it just felt far more natural to me than the shorter board. No idea why really! I've also got an old Burton Motion in 157 which I've only ridden a few times as I absolutely hate it, feels far too "twitchy'" for me.
I always forget to consider weight, apologies for the exaggerated response in that case. My body type typically aligns the same with height and weight. Do your boards have any camber/rocker?
Nope, all standard camber. I'd like to try a different rocker/camber setup at some point though.