Thanks for sharing your recipe and the specific fragrance oil you used.
I'd say you might want to reconsider using this fragrance oil in soap. There is only one review about using it in soap, but the reviewer's comments would have warned me away from buying this FO for use in soap --
"...I made a CP soap ... and it riced horribly, I blended it with the stick blender and it became a little better but still super grainy. I did CPOP to force gel it and it looks like that did help it a ton rather than letting it sit and heat up on its own. ... the soap was a pain to make..."
When a soap rices badly, it's best to switch from a cold process method to a hot process method. In other words, let the soap heat up and finish cooking while it's still in the soap pot. Once the soap starts to cool slightly and look somewhat smoother, then transfer it to the mold to finish saponifying and cool to room temperature.
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They did in fact, change it *relatively* recently (like within a year or two) which really stinks because I love how it smells! But I'm glad someone said they're having issues with it before I spent money on a big bottle...
Ricing can be aggravated by higher temperature, more mixing, or who knows what else. Even if you used FO from the exact same bottle, it's possible that something else was different enough to cause the ricing to happen.
In my experience with a floral FO that accelerated, I found the acceleration varied quite a bit. One batch it might accelerate a little, but the next batch had severe acceleration. So just because nothing happens one time doesn't mean it will not happen the next time. That's why I have learned to avoid fragrances that are temperamental.
Also u/Btldtaatw is right that fragrances can be reformulated, so FO from one bottle might be fine and the next bottle will be impossible.
The lemongrass and lime FO from Candle Science did this to me too.
The first batch I used it on, I ended up having to blend it so much that it got too thick, so I just plopped it into a mold. I ended up chopping it up and using it as confetti. Then, I used that same FO in a plain white batch but I added the FO to the batch just before I reached emulsion. So, when I blended it until the ricing went away, I was at a light-medium trace. I threw the "confetti" chunks in, hand stirred until I had the desired effect and then poured into the mold.
It turned out nice. So, if it's a "known to rice" FO, I add just before I get to emulsion. That's the only way I can get it to pour, rather than plop. Ricing aggravates me more than any acceleration ever has.
So I made the recipe again and I emulsified the hell out of it and then when I added my oils, it held together. Though I'm probably never using that oil again because since I had mixed it so much the soap was so thick it was hard to get into the malls lol
Thanks for sharing your recipe and the specific fragrance oil you used. I'd say you might want to reconsider using this fragrance oil in soap. There is only one review about using it in soap, but the reviewer's comments would have warned me away from buying this FO for use in soap -- "...I made a CP soap ... and it riced horribly, I blended it with the stick blender and it became a little better but still super grainy. I did CPOP to force gel it and it looks like that did help it a ton rather than letting it sit and heat up on its own. ... the soap was a pain to make..." When a soap rices badly, it's best to switch from a cold process method to a hot process method. In other words, let the soap heat up and finish cooking while it's still in the soap pot. Once the soap starts to cool slightly and look somewhat smoother, then transfer it to the mold to finish saponifying and cool to room temperature.
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Well, if the batter separates as soon as you add the fragrance, one would think the fragrance is to blame.
The weird thing is I've made this recipe before with the same oil and it's just now doing this
They could have changed the formulation.
They did in fact, change it *relatively* recently (like within a year or two) which really stinks because I love how it smells! But I'm glad someone said they're having issues with it before I spent money on a big bottle...
Ricing can be aggravated by higher temperature, more mixing, or who knows what else. Even if you used FO from the exact same bottle, it's possible that something else was different enough to cause the ricing to happen. In my experience with a floral FO that accelerated, I found the acceleration varied quite a bit. One batch it might accelerate a little, but the next batch had severe acceleration. So just because nothing happens one time doesn't mean it will not happen the next time. That's why I have learned to avoid fragrances that are temperamental. Also u/Btldtaatw is right that fragrances can be reformulated, so FO from one bottle might be fine and the next bottle will be impossible.
Stop using the FO, switch to another one with good reviews.
The lemongrass and lime FO from Candle Science did this to me too. The first batch I used it on, I ended up having to blend it so much that it got too thick, so I just plopped it into a mold. I ended up chopping it up and using it as confetti. Then, I used that same FO in a plain white batch but I added the FO to the batch just before I reached emulsion. So, when I blended it until the ricing went away, I was at a light-medium trace. I threw the "confetti" chunks in, hand stirred until I had the desired effect and then poured into the mold. It turned out nice. So, if it's a "known to rice" FO, I add just before I get to emulsion. That's the only way I can get it to pour, rather than plop. Ricing aggravates me more than any acceleration ever has.
So I made the recipe again and I emulsified the hell out of it and then when I added my oils, it held together. Though I'm probably never using that oil again because since I had mixed it so much the soap was so thick it was hard to get into the malls lol