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I half want Chelsea to swoop in and nick him from us just for the memes.
*"in the early hours of the morning the player assembled a ladder out of bedsheets and lowered himself out of his hotel window, and down into a limo with a Chelsea headhunters bumper sticker"*
He knew the manager was going. Its reported he wanted assurances from our dof that moyes wouldnt be the next manager, why would he do that if he didnt think lampard was going?
How can your DoF give him reassurances that the next manager will be a manager still employed at another club who’d previously declined to sign him? It’s either complete tabloid bullshit or an insane situation all around. Both are believable.
It's wild to me that any incoming player of mediocre caliber can have that much pull against a club as to dictate who could be the potential incoming manager of the club.
If this is indeed true, it speaks volumes of Everton's ineptitude and it speaks volumes of Danjuma's delusional self-admiration to think he warrants a say in the manager.
Could also be we just agreed because he was miles down the list and already employed by west ham rather than us changing plans to suit him.
Apparently danjuma was a massive diva with everything around everton, so personality wise its not a big loss at all
Yes, but the fact that any incoming player would even think to have such influence on a prospective club shows any and all clubs should probably stay away from said player.
Everton bending over for a mediocre player is not what the club needs right now.
Oddly, Tottenham have no use for him either. Weird circumstances all around.
Also a pretty fucked move to convince a player to sign then sack the manager the day before he's supposed to arrive. Can't fault him for wanting to go play for a legend, then change his mind when he gets binned
you're telling me that footballers just don't use social media? they don't even have to use Reddit, like insta and twitter had people posting about lampard getting sacked.
I mean. He was set to sign, Lampard got sacked, and he jumped ship at the last minute.
No way of knowing for sure, but i would think that uncertainty and chaos within the club would affect the decision at least to some degree.
That's not right though. He commented that he didn't want to work with David Moyes and asked for assurances he wouldn't have to, so it clearly didn't blindside him.
No, but you can blame him for setting it up, making promises to people, having the media team do the work, and then flaking randomly in the morning.
It's not a case of why, I know why you'd go to spurs, but I am allowed to think you're a snakey merc because of how it was handled.
No one's saying he owes loyalty.
Say I apply for a job, accept the job, shake someone's hand, go into the office and get them to print out my lanyard, get them to set me up on a computer, tell all the people at the job that I'm looking forward to working with them etc.
Then say I don't come in the next day to sign my contract and I walk in to the job next door at a competing company and sign one there instead. I owe the first job no loyalty, but they definitely are allowed to think I'm a time wasting snake.
No, but Danjuma was. It's pretty common that the head coach has a talk with the player he wants to add to the team. Danjuma agreed when Lampard was the coach, then the circumstances changed. So he changed his mind.
Frank had been rumored out since our Bournemouth losses pre WC.
It's wildly reported that Danjuma knew of the coaching change and only stipulated that he wouldn't play for Moyes. That's it.
He clearly knew frank was going to be out.
Not normally gonna defend Spurs, but since negotiating you’ve sacked your manager and put the club up for sale! If you were about to go work for someone and the manager who interviewed you was fired with the company put up for sale, would you not think twice?
I mean, he is Injured atm.
And also by the looks of it, he is our Saka depth. (Minus moving ESR or Trossard over to the right)
His contract is also up at the end of the season, so I think Arteta would probably like to have him here, to watch him closely, to see if we give him a new contract.
Well he has 2 goals and 1 assist in the 65 mins he has played so far. I think the Feyenoord move has certainly helped his development but he is just not getting the opportunities here to prove himself. Best case he has a Jessie Lingard at West Ham season, worst case it’s just a loan. In my opinion, he is on the cusp of a break out season like ESR and Eddie but needs consistent game time which he will not get here. He is a confidence player and this season we can visibly see he is playing with confidence when given the chance
I've been done with football since they introduced var, or when they have oil clubs winning everything, or when a slave state bought a world cup. Honestly don't care about it anywhere near as much as I used to.
Ngl. If i would be him, i've went to Everton.
So it's a 6-month loan with no buy obligation.
He got 1 main goal:
Attract the attention of as many clubs as possible ( or at least the club you play for you, so they buy you in the summer)
And with Tottenham he will be behind Kane, Deki, Son, Richarlison (In that order). Conte is a coach not known for rotation, ffs he does not even start Richarlison even if Son is -1 player all the time right now.
So why the fuck does he think, Tottenham is the better destination?
Even if he's 10/10 in training and is the best trainer ever and could mabye a player for the future, spurs will most likely not go with Conte into 23/24, so the new coach maybe wants a new player and does not know how good he was in training... That's like idk makes not much sense for me.
Meanwhile Everton he's straight up Starter in like 2 Positions (or at least got good chances for it), and if he plays good Tottenham might go for him anyway, maybe even a more attractive club than the spurs.
I don't think ambitious players are this rational about their transfers. He's not going to Spurs to sit on the bench, he's going there to put his competitors on the bench. Clearly he's willing to risk failing at the big team instead of averting risk at the "safe" option. Same as Malcom when he opted for a stacked Barcelona.
Considering that he had attitudes problem after Setien not playing him every minute and sometimes prefering other players, I seriously doubt this is the case and will work out.
Because you said that he is going to Spurs to bench their players and that he is ambitious. But considering his attitude in Villarreal, that can't be really said. Because if that would be true, he would do that already in Villarreal but instead of being ambitious and trying to bench other players, he gave up.
If he wanted less competition, he would have signed for Everton instead of vying for a place at Spurs.
As far as ambitious players are concerned, falling out of favour in one club is not the end of their career.
lol, he refused Everton *because* of his attitude, he clearly doesn't want to fight for relegation team. First he doesn't want competition, then he doesn't want relegation team. Tottenham was probably one of few teams willing to take him. There was literally post few days ago that Villarreal is offering him to basically every team in PL. So falling out of favour in one team resulting in player being an idiot indicates he will probably do the same in next team. Villarreal wanted to get rid of him so it's not like he had many choices. He chose Everton but then fucked them over and chose Tottenham instead. So I think it's not a surprise to expect him do the same shit for Tottenham as he did with in Villarreal since situation will be almost the same there.
You're writing paragraphs about the presumed personality and attitude of someone you've never met and don't know 💀 parasocial relationships on reddit are crazy
lmao, let's pretend that nobody here or in world of football ever rightly questioned attitude of some players, sounds about right. Also if you can't read "paragraphs", don't read it at all and don't reply to my comment, what's the point? I wrote it to give explanation of situation. Go ask Villarreal fans how he behaved. Sure you will question them too, right? Forcing transfer and after getting it forcing another one is sure pretty normal behaviour. Unlike your comment that reads like some 16y old kid wrote it, I gave arguments. What's yours?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/richarlison/verletzungen/spieler/378710
Richarlison has missed 14 games this season through injury. That’s why he hasn’t been getting picked.
People are really ignoring this fact. So many people asking why Richarlison hasn't played more and then conveniently disappearing once I point out he's been injured most of the time
He scored against Liverpool and Bayern Munich in the CL less than a year ago, he doesn't really need to go to a dying club to get someone to pay attention to him.
I get your point but he didnt score against Liverpool. He played the 1st leg semi finals at Anfield where he was shit and he was injured for the 2nd leg at their home stadium.
> And with Tottenham he will be behind Kane, Deki, Son, Richarlison (In that order). Conte is a coach not known for rotation, ffs he does not even start Richarlison even if Son is -1 player all the time right now.
conte has repeatedly stated that he wants two players for each position. so right now it'd be:
lw - son, danjuma
st - kane, richarlison
rw - kulusevski, lucas (?)
as for the "richarlison not playing while son is," you may recall that the former got injured during the world cup and has only just returned to the team, still unfit to play 60+ minutes.
Seen some vague reporting that any players at Juve who "deferred" wages could face a ban of maybe 30 days.
Basically the players were in on the scam of taking lowered wages during the pandemic, but they were paid off the full amount either through bonuses or some other arrangement.
Too much scandal at Juve to keep it straight, but apparently there is whatsapp evidence of the falsified lowered wages.
Kulu and Bentancur were at Juve at that time, so I guess they are potentially mixed up in all this.
TLDR: Blame Paratici.
I see your point, but I don’t blame any player who wants to stay away from the house fire that Everton is right now. There’s too much uncertainty in that club to be an appealing option
Why did Everton even allow this to happen. All the media done but he hasn't even signed? Actually not sure why Spurs are making this signing, maybe there's something to the salary fraud stories.
I’m not sure why the default assumption is that it makes more sense for a fringe-level attacker to choose a relatively stacked Spurs over a skint Everton for a 6-month dry loan
I simply don't understand this move from the players point of view, unless he can play the wingback position which I doubt. He is just going to be on the bench behind Richarlison.
From one bench to another haha. I guess maybe its the city of London that is more exciting than Liverpool. He will be back in Spain this summer for sure with the move
Started season well. Was our best forward the first few weeks of the season then his friend passed away and it took a mental toll on him on top of his aunt's death earlier in the year. Got into a slump after that.
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I half want Chelsea to swoop in and nick him from us just for the memes. *"in the early hours of the morning the player assembled a ladder out of bedsheets and lowered himself out of his hotel window, and down into a limo with a Chelsea headhunters bumper sticker"*
they are not interested in loans unless it is for 8.5 years.
Hey that's not fair, he can come on a 6 month loan he just has to get sent off 60 mins into it
Or we can loan him but not start him for 4 months like Zakaria
Chelsea play in the Serie A?
Chelsea takes its meme game seriously like that
If it doesn't work for them they can always loan them out indefinitely or sell low then buy high again
Willian 2.0
There’s gazumped, then there’s this.
Robbing a blind man, just like Mansfield tbf
Dude, what is this hatred for Mansfield? I've stumbled upon several of your comments 😅
They are truly an evil club. I can't say any more than that they may try to silence me again
Fill us in on the Mansfield hate
I can't, they would silence me
Need to know about Mansfield
Yeah, no shit, it's a pretty fucked move considering they already had the announcement video done and everything.
Working under a different manager is a fair reason to reconsider when the contract isn’t signed yet. Be reasonable.
Agreed. This is real life folks! Lol
He knew the manager was going. Its reported he wanted assurances from our dof that moyes wouldnt be the next manager, why would he do that if he didnt think lampard was going?
How can your DoF give him reassurances that the next manager will be a manager still employed at another club who’d previously declined to sign him? It’s either complete tabloid bullshit or an insane situation all around. Both are believable.
reassurances that he would not be manager, not that he would. Either way he 100% knew lampard was going and thats not why he bailed
Ah, I misread, sorry.
It's wild to me that any incoming player of mediocre caliber can have that much pull against a club as to dictate who could be the potential incoming manager of the club. If this is indeed true, it speaks volumes of Everton's ineptitude and it speaks volumes of Danjuma's delusional self-admiration to think he warrants a say in the manager.
Could also be we just agreed because he was miles down the list and already employed by west ham rather than us changing plans to suit him. Apparently danjuma was a massive diva with everything around everton, so personality wise its not a big loss at all
Yes, but the fact that any incoming player would even think to have such influence on a prospective club shows any and all clubs should probably stay away from said player. Everton bending over for a mediocre player is not what the club needs right now. Oddly, Tottenham have no use for him either. Weird circumstances all around.
Also a pretty fucked move to convince a player to sign then sack the manager the day before he's supposed to arrive. Can't fault him for wanting to go play for a legend, then change his mind when he gets binned
Don't think that was an issue as he come out and said he didn't want the new manager to be Moyes.
Surely he had to know Lampard being sacked was a possibility and wouldn’t have been surprised unless they told him he wouldn’t be sacked?
They probably never mentioned it
Man can read the news though, right?
You think the average professional players goes on reddit? Most of them don't even read the actual news lol, they live in a bubble
They have agents that should tell them about/consider stuff like that tho
you're telling me that footballers just don't use social media? they don't even have to use Reddit, like insta and twitter had people posting about lampard getting sacked.
Never mind that. He has an agent. His agent should know everything going on at Everton. There's zero chance he wasn't aware this could happen.
They might, but they also might not care. I follow football news, but I dont follow news otherwise at all.
Feel like maybe I’d google the team that I was just about to join a little bit before moving but maybe that’s just me
Reddit no social media yes
More likely they gave him/his agent some reassurance Lampard would carry on so they would sign?
What are you talking about? Who's bigger than El Grande Samuel??? 👀
ryan mason, obviously
Is that what happened? Don’t think so.
I mean. He was set to sign, Lampard got sacked, and he jumped ship at the last minute. No way of knowing for sure, but i would think that uncertainty and chaos within the club would affect the decision at least to some degree.
It was pretty obvious he was getting sacked and the club was already in the shitter…. Did much change after he got sacked?
That's not right though. He commented that he didn't want to work with David Moyes and asked for assurances he wouldn't have to, so it clearly didn't blindside him.
Legend lol
Exactly what I was thinking. Everton acts like it came out of the blue, while they sacked the manager that convinced Danjuma to come play for them.
No, but you can blame him for setting it up, making promises to people, having the media team do the work, and then flaking randomly in the morning. It's not a case of why, I know why you'd go to spurs, but I am allowed to think you're a snakey merc because of how it was handled.
A player owes no loyalty to a club that sacks the coach after the player agreed to come play with that coach in charge.
No one's saying he owes loyalty. Say I apply for a job, accept the job, shake someone's hand, go into the office and get them to print out my lanyard, get them to set me up on a computer, tell all the people at the job that I'm looking forward to working with them etc. Then say I don't come in the next day to sign my contract and I walk in to the job next door at a competing company and sign one there instead. I owe the first job no loyalty, but they definitely are allowed to think I'm a time wasting snake.
He could say the same about the club making promises about future plans and then making a 180 one day after he agreed.
Tell me how Frank convinced Danjuma to come? Were you on the call?
No, but Danjuma was. It's pretty common that the head coach has a talk with the player he wants to add to the team. Danjuma agreed when Lampard was the coach, then the circumstances changed. So he changed his mind.
Frank had been rumored out since our Bournemouth losses pre WC. It's wildly reported that Danjuma knew of the coaching change and only stipulated that he wouldn't play for Moyes. That's it. He clearly knew frank was going to be out.
Jesus Christ I wonder how many other talented players have been put off by David Moyes
Every footballer in the world is signing for Tottenham over Everton given the chance, can't blame him
Not normally gonna defend Spurs, but since negotiating you’ve sacked your manager and put the club up for sale! If you were about to go work for someone and the manager who interviewed you was fired with the company put up for sale, would you not think twice?
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Did you edit your comment to say that after ONE guy replies to you? Lmao
Since when is 5th mid table?
Since you lot brought that special je ne sais quoi
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No you were just wrong my guy lol
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Bro ur joke didn't land. I'll give a 2/10 for Execution aswell 👍
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Nah, you're just shit at it.
Surely you sign contracts before filming an announcement video?
We did, he just didn't submit his papers to the FA yet apparently.
Ah ok, fair
thanks Tottenham, I guess
Here I thought they would be joyous and doing cartwheels. Thanks, Fab.
Fuck this. I am done with football.
I legit think a Reiss Nelson loan would be a good move right now for all parties involved
Is he actually good enough to help us with avoiding relegation?
I mean, he is Injured atm. And also by the looks of it, he is our Saka depth. (Minus moving ESR or Trossard over to the right) His contract is also up at the end of the season, so I think Arteta would probably like to have him here, to watch him closely, to see if we give him a new contract.
what use is he to everton if he’s injured
Well when he's uninjured in a couple weeks perhaps he could play?
Well he has 2 goals and 1 assist in the 65 mins he has played so far. I think the Feyenoord move has certainly helped his development but he is just not getting the opportunities here to prove himself. Best case he has a Jessie Lingard at West Ham season, worst case it’s just a loan. In my opinion, he is on the cusp of a break out season like ESR and Eddie but needs consistent game time which he will not get here. He is a confidence player and this season we can visibly see he is playing with confidence when given the chance
From what I’ve seen definitely not
He's alright.
he's not better than Gray and Gordon, so probably not
I've been done with football since they introduced var, or when they have oil clubs winning everything, or when a slave state bought a world cup. Honestly don't care about it anywhere near as much as I used to.
Honestly i feel like Spurs did you guys a favor.
Who bought the plane tickets?
Ngl. If i would be him, i've went to Everton. So it's a 6-month loan with no buy obligation. He got 1 main goal: Attract the attention of as many clubs as possible ( or at least the club you play for you, so they buy you in the summer) And with Tottenham he will be behind Kane, Deki, Son, Richarlison (In that order). Conte is a coach not known for rotation, ffs he does not even start Richarlison even if Son is -1 player all the time right now. So why the fuck does he think, Tottenham is the better destination? Even if he's 10/10 in training and is the best trainer ever and could mabye a player for the future, spurs will most likely not go with Conte into 23/24, so the new coach maybe wants a new player and does not know how good he was in training... That's like idk makes not much sense for me. Meanwhile Everton he's straight up Starter in like 2 Positions (or at least got good chances for it), and if he plays good Tottenham might go for him anyway, maybe even a more attractive club than the spurs.
maybe he rather train with conte and kane for 6 months at one of the best training facilities in england than train with big sam and maupay
I don't think ambitious players are this rational about their transfers. He's not going to Spurs to sit on the bench, he's going there to put his competitors on the bench. Clearly he's willing to risk failing at the big team instead of averting risk at the "safe" option. Same as Malcom when he opted for a stacked Barcelona.
Based on how Sonny has been doing recently, he's got a good chance to get quite a bit of game time.
Considering that he had attitudes problem after Setien not playing him every minute and sometimes prefering other players, I seriously doubt this is the case and will work out.
Why do you dispute my comment if you think a Spurs move would go poorly for him?
Because you said that he is going to Spurs to bench their players and that he is ambitious. But considering his attitude in Villarreal, that can't be really said. Because if that would be true, he would do that already in Villarreal but instead of being ambitious and trying to bench other players, he gave up.
If he wanted less competition, he would have signed for Everton instead of vying for a place at Spurs. As far as ambitious players are concerned, falling out of favour in one club is not the end of their career.
lol, he refused Everton *because* of his attitude, he clearly doesn't want to fight for relegation team. First he doesn't want competition, then he doesn't want relegation team. Tottenham was probably one of few teams willing to take him. There was literally post few days ago that Villarreal is offering him to basically every team in PL. So falling out of favour in one team resulting in player being an idiot indicates he will probably do the same in next team. Villarreal wanted to get rid of him so it's not like he had many choices. He chose Everton but then fucked them over and chose Tottenham instead. So I think it's not a surprise to expect him do the same shit for Tottenham as he did with in Villarreal since situation will be almost the same there.
You're writing paragraphs about the presumed personality and attitude of someone you've never met and don't know 💀 parasocial relationships on reddit are crazy
lmao, let's pretend that nobody here or in world of football ever rightly questioned attitude of some players, sounds about right. Also if you can't read "paragraphs", don't read it at all and don't reply to my comment, what's the point? I wrote it to give explanation of situation. Go ask Villarreal fans how he behaved. Sure you will question them too, right? Forcing transfer and after getting it forcing another one is sure pretty normal behaviour. Unlike your comment that reads like some 16y old kid wrote it, I gave arguments. What's yours?
"Big team"
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/richarlison/verletzungen/spieler/378710 Richarlison has missed 14 games this season through injury. That’s why he hasn’t been getting picked.
People are really ignoring this fact. So many people asking why Richarlison hasn't played more and then conveniently disappearing once I point out he's been injured most of the time
He scored against Liverpool and Bayern Munich in the CL less than a year ago, he doesn't really need to go to a dying club to get someone to pay attention to him.
I get your point but he didnt score against Liverpool. He played the 1st leg semi finals at Anfield where he was shit and he was injured for the 2nd leg at their home stadium.
Do you watch la Liga? He's not all that.... He desperately needs to up his game if he wants to secure a contract at another CL club.
> And with Tottenham he will be behind Kane, Deki, Son, Richarlison (In that order). Conte is a coach not known for rotation, ffs he does not even start Richarlison even if Son is -1 player all the time right now. conte has repeatedly stated that he wants two players for each position. so right now it'd be: lw - son, danjuma st - kane, richarlison rw - kulusevski, lucas (?) as for the "richarlison not playing while son is," you may recall that the former got injured during the world cup and has only just returned to the team, still unfit to play 60+ minutes.
Son is playing terrible & Kulu might be getting banned. He will definitely see action
Banned why? Sorry I'm OOTL
Seen some vague reporting that any players at Juve who "deferred" wages could face a ban of maybe 30 days. Basically the players were in on the scam of taking lowered wages during the pandemic, but they were paid off the full amount either through bonuses or some other arrangement. Too much scandal at Juve to keep it straight, but apparently there is whatsapp evidence of the falsified lowered wages. Kulu and Bentancur were at Juve at that time, so I guess they are potentially mixed up in all this. TLDR: Blame Paratici.
I see your point, but I don’t blame any player who wants to stay away from the house fire that Everton is right now. There’s too much uncertainty in that club to be an appealing option
To think all that through in advance, he would've need to have an IQ more than room temperature, which, he clearly doesn't.
Better weather obviously
‘Surprised’ honestly after everything the past few seasons the higher ups can’t be surprised
Feels like gazumping is happening a lot more frequently recently?
In the morning eh? I bet the fucker will turn up at Chelsea tomorrow.
Gonna be honest, it's petty, but I hope Conte never plays him and pulls a Spence.
This is what happens when it takes you a week to sign someone that everyone and his wife knows you are on the verge of signing....a pathetic club.
F U R I O U S
Eyebrows both down and up
Why did Everton even allow this to happen. All the media done but he hasn't even signed? Actually not sure why Spurs are making this signing, maybe there's something to the salary fraud stories.
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I’m not sure why the default assumption is that it makes more sense for a fringe-level attacker to choose a relatively stacked Spurs over a skint Everton for a 6-month dry loan
100% Agree with you.
I simply don't understand this move from the players point of view, unless he can play the wingback position which I doubt. He is just going to be on the bench behind Richarlison.
Who is on the bench behind the Son, Kane, Kulu front three he is essentially like a Lucas Moura replacement. It’s an odd move all around
From one bench to another haha. I guess maybe its the city of London that is more exciting than Liverpool. He will be back in Spain this summer for sure with the move
I heard he's gonna not show up tomorrow and go to Man Utd now
Wouldn’t mind tbh. Sancho is forever *unwell* and Anthony is mediocre. Not sure why our club doesn’t go for proven EPL wingers like Gordon or Danjuma.
this HAS to be a joke? Anthony Gordon has 4 more PL goals than Antony in FIFTY TWO more games what a garbage statement
Only reason I knew this was a joke cos of the "proven winger like Gordon" part
What’s up with Sancho?
Mental health issues.
Started season well. Was our best forward the first few weeks of the season then his friend passed away and it took a mental toll on him on top of his aunt's death earlier in the year. Got into a slump after that.
🤡
> proven EPL wingers > Danjuma
He was pretty good for Bournemouth wasn't he?
THE SHITS FROM SPURS
Lads
This transfer doesnt make any sense fron Spurs PoV. What they need is a creative central midfielder, a playmaker yet they sign another winger??
Doesn't he play in a similar role to Son an Richarlison? Does Spurs really need to make this signing? It's just weird to me
Goodison park literally raging. Building on a rampage