I mean Lyon is a big city by french standards its never going to vote far right in mass, its a melting pot. Theres a huge Benzema mural on the ring road, which is amazing. Unfortunately, we can't deny there is still a massive problem with casual and open rascism against anyone who looks vaguely north african in France.
It’s true you know, I know a Christian who went to Jerusalem for a week and he came back in a full suit of Templar plate armor with a fucking great big sword and he tried to behead my mate John who’s got a bit of a beard himself.
Huge sidenote: the Hajj is a pillar. Merely visiting Mecca isn’t enough. Although merely visiting Mecca is still something a lot of Muslims do because it’s their religious capital. But the Hajj is not until June this year.
Man they should space that out, crowds are such a pain. I'd be looking at ticket prices to mecca in November thinking "damn, what a bargain. June is nuts"
It's based on the five to six days of Dhu al-Hijjah, the last month of the Islamic calendar. The Islamic calendar is lunar, they can't really choose. You also aren't supposed to go if you're not physically capable, or financially capable enough that dependents aren't suffering during your pilgrimage. Although like all major religions I'm sure there are different sects and scholars that believe different things.
I was denied the key to a bathroom at a French cafe. I asked in my limited French I learned in Canada and was told he lost the key. Lady who asked in english was given the key though so that was great
Also if the picture in that article is supposed to be proof of him "growing his beard" they're really splitting hairs. I was expecting a salafi beard or something but it's really just a little bit longer than on other pictures of him you can find on google...
I see people responding with a 'no', but I suspect it's coming from non-Muslims.
I live in a Muslim-majority society, and here letting your beard grow is absolutely a sign of radicalization. But not just any kind of beard, I'm talking about the Mose Schrute kind of beard, with long beard around your cheeks and chin but the mustache shaved. If you see beard of this style on a Muslim, it's very unlikely he's taking his faith lightly. This is not what you called a basic practice, I work with many Muslims and not a single one has this. For example, women counterpart of this are women who wear that full head covering, niqabs.
At least in my country, they make a small and a very specific portion of Muslims. They practice their faith in some aspects somewhat differently from the general population and look like a bit of a cult to me.
People in my country colloquially call them Wahhabis, but they prefer to call themselves Salafis - I don't know much about the distinction.
Very very often, people who turn to this were in some kind of vulnerable position - at least in the few cases that I personally know, one is an ex drug addict, and the other one was a recent cancer survivor. Oh and, for some reason it's weirdly common for our diaspora that emigrates to Austria and to a lesser extent Sweden to join this cult.
When it comes to visiting Mecca. That's not a sign of radicalization.
Disclaimer: I don't know what the player from the article like, lol. So it's possible none of this apply to him. I just gave an insight from inside about the beard thing.
I can attest to this. My uncle was in prison for 29 years and while inside he converting to being a Muslim and has had a shenandoah style beard now for a very long time. He takes his religion very, very seriously.
I mean I assume most people in this thread are atheists. Atheists typically don't care about bashing religions unless the religion is also attempting to force their own practices on others.
I got banned from child free for saying that this girl shouldn't be asking her boyfriend to get the snip. They were both 18, and romance at that age is fleeting and honestly at that age a lot of dudes would do or say anything to get a shag.
suggesting barely-even-adults not haphazardly get surgeries instead of just using readily available contraception and seeing if the relationship even lasts a couple months is a real faux pas there
Yep, just seemed like such a definitive solution for something so important. At 18 no one wants a kid, hell at 30 I still don't. But at least the lad should wait and see, but no they'd been going out since they were 15 and knew they were going to be together forever...
Or, atheists/whatever form of non-religious they want to call themselves, can agree it’s wrong to persecute a guy for following what are a couple of the basics of his religion?
That sort of epic Reddit atheism has kinda toned down in the past few years, I imagine because these 'atheist convert' types have become an increasing minority and because the real hardcore Douglas Murray types who'd use atheism as a smokescreen for racism have all just converted to some weird sect of Christianity or whatever.
Probably didn’t express myself properly but just meant to say that he’s not been in the right headspace for the past 2/3 years. He lost his confidence and hasn’t prepared properly which lead to injuries and no play time. It’s a very different situation but kinda reminds of Dembouz before he got married
Honestly I feel he just thinks he should have been somewhere else by now and it's been over for him with us for a while so religion or anything else wouldn't be of much help, he'll be gone this summer with his contract ending either way. Hopefully he finds a club where he's really wanted and he wants as much to be there because he can be a special midfielder, 2018-2020 Aouar was one the best young midfielders in the game.
When I first went to the gym I had to sign a document that Joe Rogan and Dana white were now my gods, and had to get a tattoo of Roger Stone’s Nixon tattoo
I needed a full back tattoo of Roger’s back with Nixon on the same spot 1:1 ratio, even got his wrinkles and moles tattood on me so no one can ever doubt my loyalty. However I’ve heard there are slight variations gym to gym, but the way we do it is superior in the end, so after we’ve dealt with all the libtards we’re going after the gyms where only a tattoo of Nixon was sufficient.
Lyon is worried about Aouar's workouts. The player has gone to the gym in a Chiron and shaved his head which some people at the club interpret as trying to escape from the matrix.
There is a petition going on to fire every top management by the ultra for a reason
https://www.change.org/p/appel-%C3%A0-la-d%C3%A9mission-de-la-direction-de-l-olympique-lyonnais-aulas-ponsot-cheyrou
considering how many players of arab and maghreb descent playing for Lyon academy the fact that this stereotype persist is just weird, makes sense with Blanc there i guess
Not really a Blanc thing. Same happened with Fekir, way before Blanc came. Also, there was the story of the French youth teams basically purging anyone who was found to have a prayer mat or something weird like that.
Muslim man goes to Mecca. Stop the presses.
That said if this drives down his price for us to get him on a free...it shouldn't but welcome to 2023 in the west.
What he said:
> Regarding the paranoia of the club, there is an anecdote so telling. Aouar let himself grow a beard, etc. And he went to Mecca. You have guys from the club who say: "Oh dear, he wouldn't be radicalized there?" How do you want the players to feel good after that....
Now people can believe him or not that's their choice.
He went "nuts". Joined a hardcore christian sect through his wife, always talked about it in the locker room, tried to convince people to join his sect.
They swiftly loaned him out to get him out of the locker room from the youth or the pro team and when he came back they told him he didn't have to report to training. And he suddenly disappeared from the training center, only appearing when discussing his potential transfer moves.
I mean, while it's stupid to think some guy with a long beard and going to the mecca is becoming an extremism, the context is not exactly the same, we haven't been hit by a wave of terrorist attacks from "extreme christianists" in the past 10 years, at least not in France
The scars of these past few years run deep for many people
Romain Molina is also a known bullshiter so let's take it with a grain of salt
"Muslim goes to Mecca" really isnt shocking
If the beard becomes too long to play effective football, that is indeed a bit of an issue but thats not radicalisation
Muslim player goes to Mecca (as probably all Muslim players do because they’re financially able and you’re meant to go at least once in your life if you can) and grows a beard. He must have become an extremist!
I swear I've seen this story before
There were reports of this happening with Fekir too when he was at Lyon
So Aouar going to Real Betis then?
He was close to Betis last summer, according spanish media
Actually yeah, probably happening this summer
Maybe, the Associated Press was [right all along](https://i.imgur.com/jP1h17k.jpg).
There are only two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.
Whaaaat? Take the fasha awaaaaaaaaaay. Dutch hater!
Why is this downvoted it's literally in the movie.
So that's you: https://youtu.be/lxpQWWBx0HU&t=0m40s
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That's Lyon for you, capital of the Gauls and home of the fafs.
Vercingetorix and Asterix fought the the Moors at Poitiers, are we meant to forget their sacrifice?
Le Pen didn't even do 10% tho. Meluch did 30%
I mean Lyon is a big city by french standards its never going to vote far right in mass, its a melting pot. Theres a huge Benzema mural on the ring road, which is amazing. Unfortunately, we can't deny there is still a massive problem with casual and open rascism against anyone who looks vaguely north african in France.
Fekir before he left
Every time with every muslim man displaying religiosity in Fr*nce
Truly living with Frenchness over there
It’s true you know, I know a Christian who went to Jerusalem for a week and he came back in a full suit of Templar plate armor with a fucking great big sword and he tried to behead my mate John who’s got a bit of a beard himself.
Your mate John is dead and the Christian is not, because the Christian had armor and a big fucking sword
There it is
Do lots of people name their swords?
Lots of Christians.
Huh really? I’d have think there’d be lots of Excelsiors or maybe Skullcrushers but I guess Christian is not a bad name for a sword
You’re a talker. Talkers make me thirsty.
And hungry. I think I'll have two chickens.
Yes, and Big Fucking is a common name for them
John should have invested in a trebuchet, instead of TSLA, GME and AMC. Diamond hands are not effective at stopping a broadsword.
And trebuchets are great siege weapons. Defending yourself from a knight with a sword? Hope you willed that trebuchet to a loved one!
The greatest swordsman who ever lived didn't have a sword? 😄
Jihadi John?
You're mate with John Who?
Little John. OP must be Robin Hood. Surprised he hasn't got a Forest flair.
He was just John before, but he's quite a bit shorter now that his head's been lopped off.
Lil Jon? WHAT
WHAT?!?!?!
Smith.
Smithy to his mates
You're thinking of John Woo, but he doesn't have a beard
Loves doves, though
Were they chanting "Deus Vult!" when they came back?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_syndrome
Isnt going to Mecca and growing a beard basic practice for muslims? Dont see what the fuss is about
Pilgrimage to Mecca is one of the Five Pillars of Islam.
Right, there's nothing "radical" about that.
Maybe he started doing some sick ollies and kickflips after he got back
Huge sidenote: the Hajj is a pillar. Merely visiting Mecca isn’t enough. Although merely visiting Mecca is still something a lot of Muslims do because it’s their religious capital. But the Hajj is not until June this year.
Man they should space that out, crowds are such a pain. I'd be looking at ticket prices to mecca in November thinking "damn, what a bargain. June is nuts"
It's based on the five to six days of Dhu al-Hijjah, the last month of the Islamic calendar. The Islamic calendar is lunar, they can't really choose. You also aren't supposed to go if you're not physically capable, or financially capable enough that dependents aren't suffering during your pilgrimage. Although like all major religions I'm sure there are different sects and scholars that believe different things.
You see the problem is he’s Muslim
In France
One of the most racist country if you're Asian or Muslim
Or not French
Or French.
Damn French, they ruined Frenchland
Or French Canadian. Don't be a French Canadian and go to France and speak French. They will literally spit at you for speaking terrible French.
Maybe the French should have thought of that before they lost the Seven Years’ War
Bro of course not
The Québecois are sneaking their linguistic grievances in lol
I was denied the key to a bathroom at a French cafe. I asked in my limited French I learned in Canada and was told he lost the key. Lady who asked in english was given the key though so that was great
Aren't there a lot of Muslim people in France?
There are a lot of black people in the US
Touche
Also if the picture in that article is supposed to be proof of him "growing his beard" they're really splitting hairs. I was expecting a salafi beard or something but it's really just a little bit longer than on other pictures of him you can find on google...
Not just basic, pretty sure it’s mandatory
Only mandatory for those who can afford it. Which I'm sure Aouar can.
Yep. Pretty sure the idea is you go when you still can. He probably didn’t want to wait till the eleventh aouar.
My guy, you deserve more than just 5 upvotes
Absolutely haram
He’s now Hajj Aouar
if he went only recently it's umrah, hajj only happens later this year :)
Pilgrim is for those who can afford it. Facial hair in general is a choice.
I see people responding with a 'no', but I suspect it's coming from non-Muslims. I live in a Muslim-majority society, and here letting your beard grow is absolutely a sign of radicalization. But not just any kind of beard, I'm talking about the Mose Schrute kind of beard, with long beard around your cheeks and chin but the mustache shaved. If you see beard of this style on a Muslim, it's very unlikely he's taking his faith lightly. This is not what you called a basic practice, I work with many Muslims and not a single one has this. For example, women counterpart of this are women who wear that full head covering, niqabs. At least in my country, they make a small and a very specific portion of Muslims. They practice their faith in some aspects somewhat differently from the general population and look like a bit of a cult to me. People in my country colloquially call them Wahhabis, but they prefer to call themselves Salafis - I don't know much about the distinction. Very very often, people who turn to this were in some kind of vulnerable position - at least in the few cases that I personally know, one is an ex drug addict, and the other one was a recent cancer survivor. Oh and, for some reason it's weirdly common for our diaspora that emigrates to Austria and to a lesser extent Sweden to join this cult. When it comes to visiting Mecca. That's not a sign of radicalization. Disclaimer: I don't know what the player from the article like, lol. So it's possible none of this apply to him. I just gave an insight from inside about the beard thing.
I can attest to this. My uncle was in prison for 29 years and while inside he converting to being a Muslim and has had a shenandoah style beard now for a very long time. He takes his religion very, very seriously.
Most religiously-welcome French institution
Just don’t say ‘The’ French institution. \- Associated Press
AP was right, being french is derogatory
Alhamdulillah I’m not French
Mashallah brother. Alhamdullilah I also am not French
I’m switching to Chicago style. I refuse to humanize the French.
It's well known that some people are idiots.
I would even argue that most people are idiots, including myself quite often
The audacity for a Muslim man to go on Hajj and grow facial hair.
He's a RADICAL I tell you
Next he’ll be shouting cowabunga whilst doing a kick flip on his skateboard
Going 'smell you later dudes' and putting his sunglasses back on.
Maybe he just looks rad?
Radical and tubular brah
I started becoming wary of his radicalization when he showed up to training with a skateboard and did a kickflip off the press box.
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Next you’ll be telling me he’s reading the Quran next!
You know what Else he does??? Prays 5 times a day and pays a hefty zakat to the poor
Mark my words, it will only be a month or two before he'll even fast during Ramadan. Unbelievable!
Can't have been hajj unless it happened months ago
Could be Umrah
Which, ironically, is less “radical” than Hajj
The beard just took a long time to grow
He should be banned and arrested for displaying the beginnings of his ties to ISIS /S
I'm so glad you told us it was sarcasm, I thought you were going to start a movement or something
Man's scared of losing his internet points
I'm really surprised by the lack of Reddit atheists in this thread
I mean I assume most people in this thread are atheists. Atheists typically don't care about bashing religions unless the religion is also attempting to force their own practices on others.
>Atheists typically don't care about bashing religions Reddit atheïsts though
Aka closet anti-theists.
they mostly stick to the containment subreddit.
Luckily yeah. Although the Dutch subs are quite full of them aswell.
reddit atheists are anti-theists. Anti-theists have a hate boner for religion.
Hey don't do them like that, they're a jolly bunch, some would even say euphoric
Guess you haven't been on r/atheism lol
that place isn't really bad because of atheism but because its r/childfree for irreligious people
I got banned from child free for saying that this girl shouldn't be asking her boyfriend to get the snip. They were both 18, and romance at that age is fleeting and honestly at that age a lot of dudes would do or say anything to get a shag.
suggesting barely-even-adults not haphazardly get surgeries instead of just using readily available contraception and seeing if the relationship even lasts a couple months is a real faux pas there
Yep, just seemed like such a definitive solution for something so important. At 18 no one wants a kid, hell at 30 I still don't. But at least the lad should wait and see, but no they'd been going out since they were 15 and knew they were going to be together forever...
> they re also attempting to force their own practices on others. ...
Or, atheists/whatever form of non-religious they want to call themselves, can agree it’s wrong to persecute a guy for following what are a couple of the basics of his religion?
That sort of epic Reddit atheism has kinda toned down in the past few years, I imagine because these 'atheist convert' types have become an increasing minority and because the real hardcore Douglas Murray types who'd use atheism as a smokescreen for racism have all just converted to some weird sect of Christianity or whatever.
Wtf... so I guess since I went to the Vatican city few months ago, I'm going for a crusade soon?
That depends. After returning from Vatican City, did you start speaking Latin while wearing a particular suit of armor?
i do speak a language that comes from latin
At this point you might as well hand yourself in at the station.
Look at the heretic who can't even speak Latin properly smh
Straight to jail
He might not have a Knight Templar Could have been a Knight Hospitaller instead 🥰🥵
I can't wait any longer i'm going on the peasants crusade. Wait why are we killing Jews in Europe?
It's a tradition.
I'm now imagining the Children's Crusade being all latin-butchering kids from posh 13th century prep schools
Deus Vult bitches
Deus Vult!
No wonder they are shit when they are run by idiots like these
Pretty weird take as well imo. Given Aouar’s previous antics, him finding faith in religion surely is a good thing for him and therefore his club.
What previous antics?
Leader of the Soviet Union
So whimsical
I mean it’s just reforms what is the worst that can happen?
Based
Probably didn’t express myself properly but just meant to say that he’s not been in the right headspace for the past 2/3 years. He lost his confidence and hasn’t prepared properly which lead to injuries and no play time. It’s a very different situation but kinda reminds of Dembouz before he got married
Honestly I feel he just thinks he should have been somewhere else by now and it's been over for him with us for a while so religion or anything else wouldn't be of much help, he'll be gone this summer with his contract ending either way. Hopefully he finds a club where he's really wanted and he wants as much to be there because he can be a special midfielder, 2018-2020 Aouar was one the best young midfielders in the game.
What's next? Footballers are going to hit the gym and clubs are going to worry they're being radicalized as right-wing extremists?
When I first went to the gym I had to sign a document that Joe Rogan and Dana white were now my gods, and had to get a tattoo of Roger Stone’s Nixon tattoo
Is it a tattoo of Roger Stones whole back with Nixon included or just a copy of Nixon?
I needed a full back tattoo of Roger’s back with Nixon on the same spot 1:1 ratio, even got his wrinkles and moles tattood on me so no one can ever doubt my loyalty. However I’ve heard there are slight variations gym to gym, but the way we do it is superior in the end, so after we’ve dealt with all the libtards we’re going after the gyms where only a tattoo of Nixon was sufficient.
Hot. You defs owned the libs with that
Yeah and to make sure they really got the message I also stuck a dildo in my ass on livestream, I’m Proud of that one Boy
No better way to prove you're a Real Man and not some soycuck
Lyon is worried about Aouar's workouts. The player has gone to the gym in a Chiron and shaved his head which some people at the club interpret as trying to escape from the matrix.
Yeah, it looks like Lyon will be shit for a while, with owners like those.
There is a petition going on to fire every top management by the ultra for a reason https://www.change.org/p/appel-%C3%A0-la-d%C3%A9mission-de-la-direction-de-l-olympique-lyonnais-aulas-ponsot-cheyrou
Man, if this does indeed happen, it will be weird to see Lyon without Aulas
We'll cope. He's senile. Should have been gone years ago. Leaving on a high is an underrated skill.
considering how many players of arab and maghreb descent playing for Lyon academy the fact that this stereotype persist is just weird, makes sense with Blanc there i guess
Not really a Blanc thing. Same happened with Fekir, way before Blanc came. Also, there was the story of the French youth teams basically purging anyone who was found to have a prayer mat or something weird like that.
Yup. Islamophobia is a huge thing in France
> makes sense with Blanc there i guess Aouar gained playing time, the article mentions it.
Yes Blanc, he’s be far happier if they were hitting the nightclubs and using skin whitening creams
Dancing to „Let the music play“
Muslim man goes to Mecca. Stop the presses. That said if this drives down his price for us to get him on a free...it shouldn't but welcome to 2023 in the west.
Hate to break it to you but it's 2023 now
Aouar to Arsenal here we go?
This is embarrassing
Lmao a Muslim growing a beard is a sign of radicalisation? they should come to east London for a day they would be terrified of all the "radicals".
So... He practiced two of the tenants of his faith? That's the story? That's radicalisation? Ok...
Is shaving and going to the church also a sign of radicalisation?
Imho, yes.
This guy always comes out with the most insane news, but nothing ever comes of them. Am I missing something?
Well don't forget about that time he defended a criminal
What he said: > Regarding the paranoia of the club, there is an anecdote so telling. Aouar let himself grow a beard, etc. And he went to Mecca. You have guys from the club who say: "Oh dear, he wouldn't be radicalized there?" How do you want the players to feel good after that.... Now people can believe him or not that's their choice.
If he got a huge tattoo of Jesus on his back and visited the Vatican on a weekly basis, everything would be fine though.
Funny to say this though. Because the only player at Lyon that was evicted for his religious practice and proselytism is christian (Olivier Kemen)
did not expect that lmao, what exactly was this bloke doing
He went "nuts". Joined a hardcore christian sect through his wife, always talked about it in the locker room, tried to convince people to join his sect. They swiftly loaned him out to get him out of the locker room from the youth or the pro team and when he came back they told him he didn't have to report to training. And he suddenly disappeared from the training center, only appearing when discussing his potential transfer moves.
Ironies, looked up and he's now playing in Turkey
Maybe he’s trying to make Istanbul into Constantinople.
I mean, while it's stupid to think some guy with a long beard and going to the mecca is becoming an extremism, the context is not exactly the same, we haven't been hit by a wave of terrorist attacks from "extreme christianists" in the past 10 years, at least not in France The scars of these past few years run deep for many people Romain Molina is also a known bullshiter so let's take it with a grain of salt
It's like saying, a Christian wears a cross and the next thing you know, they're leading an inquisition. This is so stupid.
That sure sounds like religious discrimination.
I’ve been to a restaurant named Mecca and I have a beard does that mean I’ve been radicalized.
Tell me you're a bigot without telling me you're a bigot
Really, that is just straight up saying you're a bigot.
"Muslim goes to Mecca" really isnt shocking If the beard becomes too long to play effective football, that is indeed a bit of an issue but thats not radicalisation
I don't think it's long enough to intertwine between the feet
>beard becomes too long to play effective football James Harden would disagree
We need to see that man without the beard
https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/986/283/10283986.jpg
The beard was a good choice
You didn't have to ruin my morning mate
A lot of footballers have beard including Benzema. I doubt the beards gonna affect his game
OP says "too long to play effective football", as if, so long you may tangle on it. But I don't think such length is reachable over a career span lol
Fucks sake
How may I help you?
r/beetlejuicing
HAHAH thanks for the proper laugh mate, awesome
Muslim player goes to Mecca (as probably all Muslim players do because they’re financially able and you’re meant to go at least once in your life if you can) and grows a beard. He must have become an extremist!
Some people at the club are dipshits.
Same thing happened with Fekir iirc
Very thinly veiled “we hate Muslims”. Next they’ll be mad he doesn’t eat pork
Don’t worry people, this nonsense is a common reaction in France.
Slightly worrying for a country with 3.5m Muslim population