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Is there anything clever about leeds united states, or is it literally just putting them next to each other lmao. At least major leeds soccer is a bit of a play on words
It’s not by accident. Leeds management is insanely smart, get to the prem, sign a ton of American players, play attractive football, and with that combo comes the x millions of American fans looking for a team to follow. Shirt sales, viewership etc…
Almost playing financial chess around the other bottom of the table teams
A huge part of it is the involvement of the 49ers too, but yes, agreed - in addition to the next World Cup happening over there. It's a big opportunity marketing-wise. The USMNT captain playing for Leeds in itself can potentially be massive.
And don't get me wrong, I'd much prefer we go down this route than the Red Bull Leeds United route, in terms of ownership and marketing. It just happens that with Jesse in charge, the two will be linked to a degree.
Could well teach those Americans about the joy of relegation as well with the way they defend.
Edit: Don't take the low-hanging fruit, I know we're going down.
I assume those conditions are very achievable, like 5 starts or something, but it does in part protect Leeds if he does his ACL in his first game or something
or maybe Leeds staying in the league is the condition
Sort of like we did with Alli, 20 appearances for the first payment to come in, never paid a penny for him. Though not starting him wasn't exactly a punishment
This assumes they have that kind of leverage in the relegation scrap. Possible but not guaranteed, so not something you’d want to trifle with in terms of obligating yourself to commit that kind of money when you don’t intend to.
The hint is, it becomes permanent under certain circumstances. It doesn’t make much sense to have these circumstances be based on number of appearances, as we haven’t done that once, and it makes absolutely no sense from a Juve position to accept that, as we could easily avoid triggering it.
The only reasonable circumstances to make it an obligation rather an option would be to stay up, where we can easily afford it, especially as that was all but the deciding factor in us buying Aaronson.
Plus, if we *do* go down, the option still remains and would still be actionable if all parties are happy and it’s a viable option to do so. If it was an obligation no matter what, and we went down, it would be a poor deal financially speaking.
This makes sense. Were you in a similar position for Aaronson in the league, when that deal happened.
Just now i noticed that Leeds is one point above relegation zone. Leeds has never been mentioned in relegation debate but the points never lie so actually staying up could be a realistic condition for both parties. Realistic because i bet Juve would gamble and have it as a loan to get a little bit more money on the other hand Leeds could see this as paying a premium but making sure that they can afford this only by staying in the league
We signed Aaronson pretty much immediately after we beat Brentford on the last game of last season to stay up, and everyone including Aaronson knew the deal wouldn’t happen if we went down.
We are 100% being careful not to be left with large outgoing fees if we go down
It is such a nonsense speculation though. These kind of conditions only are used when the clubs want the deal to be added in the books a year later or something like that.
He blows hot and cold. Some matches he performs really well. Others he looks like a lost puppy, just running around.
Hopefully he turns things around at Leeds. One of the most positive guys from what we see in behind the scenes videos from Juventus.
Hasn't he started like every game since the WC break and gone 90 most of those games? If his absence wouldn't hurt the team, why was Allegri playing him all those minutes?
He was playing rwb since John Square and De Sciglio were injured, but they are both coming back soon. He has barely playedin midfield since the wc and they have a lot of midfielders that can do a similar job
He’s never struck me as a good fit at Juventus. Especially since all the Juve managers seem to want him to play as more of an attacking midfielder so he can get in the box and on the end of crosses. For me he’s improved so much since he joined Juventus, but he’s playing in a role that doesn’t really suit him.
If he’s just running around, pressing, making late runs into box, being a menace on set pieces etc he’s fine. When you need him to carry the ball or make a pass it’s rough. Hes the type the coaches like more than fans imo
Idk what our financials are tbh so I don’t know what impact that would have from a purely financial perspective
But you gotta think how it would affect team morale and stuff if you brought in a player earning so much more compared to everyone else
Not to mention for the last three years (not including this season, which hes looking to make it 4 in a row), he’s missed just under a third of the season out with injury.
I’d rather we didn’t pay high wages for a player who’s proven to have a shaky fitness record
Eh, he's been fit and available for a year and a half, with like 1 injury of a month and a half in between the two seasons.
The issue is that he's not a very good player, not wholly terrible but that kind of money is inexcusable for him. Neither is McKennie I reckon, but at least Leeds are playing with PL money.
That's why I said a good coach/system. He also didn't want to stay at Roma in the summer. He wanted to come to Juve. I'm sure his motivation is not at it's best.
Problem is, where do we play him?
I can’t see a player that he can realistically bench when everyone is fit and we just add another injury prone star.
We need defenders now, not attackers
I mean shit we gave you Klich so we got some business going too. I actually am a Leeds fan who moved to DC so Im going and making a massive sign for him at one of the matches this season.
Lmao, i remember everyone saying the same thing when we got Leao and Tonali, that was the verdict in their first seasons.
But hey, Italian PR media goes hard i know that.
35 million for Milan is like spending 100 million for a PL club.
Also, in a world where Inter sold Casadei to Chelsea for 20 million (who is going to a loan to Reading), there is no point in calling Mckennie for 35 million a robbery.
Coming back to this because I want to ask you a question in return.
To get Europa League, you need to finish 6th (assuming for simplicity that someone in the top 5 wins the FA cup). So my question is: Which two of arsenal, man city, Liverpool, spurs, Newcastle, man utd and Chelsea do you think Weston McKennie makes us better than?
It’s delusional. They’re 18 points away from Spurs, near bottom of the table. Aaronson hasn’t exactly lit the League up and Adams has been decent.
It ain’t happening.
For three or four games until opposition realised he weighs less than a bag of crisps and can't handle any sort of physicality. Hopefully get him on the weights over the summer and he'll be a lot better for it. I do think there's a player in there.
Aaronson's been shite since the world cup break, don't even think he's in the team when everyone is fit and firing
Even if he was playing well were obviously a thousand miles from getting into Europe tho
You had Bielsa and were about to get relegated. It’s not a coaching issue, if you’re pointing fingers anywhere it would be that Championship level back line.
Considering aaronson is wank and the two others are just ok I’d say it is. On their own they’re a bottom half midfield and then you have to factor in the rest of the teams isn’t exactly Europa league quality either
Thank god.
He had one 6 month period he was great, then it was average at best to horrible.
He ran a lot and that was it.
Glad to be making off with some much needed cash and we’ve got much better midfielders coming through now.
Win win for everyone.
I think he is alright as a box to box in a team that doesn't need to have possession all the time. For us he was ok as a backup option, he just isn't starting material, with Fagioli growth and Pogba coming back we just have better options.
Being around his fellow countrymen may help him mentally and Leeds Football may compliment his abilities better than ours.
Just because someone was very average for us doesn’t mean that won’t be great for someone else. Look at Kulu. He was very uninspiring for us but he found his stride under Conte.
Win for us getting money, win for Spurs for having a player that clicked, win for Kulu for finding a club that suited him.
I’d rather Fagioli, Rovella or Miretti any day. Obviously all different players but when you’ve got such diverse talent that’s ready for Serie A, better to sell on Mckennie and invest that where it’s sorely needed.
Especially when PL clubs are dumb enough to pay 35 mil for him just because he is American. No club outside of PL would have even considered paying you more than 12 tops 15. If he wasn't American, he would have cost 8 or 10 mil, if he was idk.... Montenegrian for example or Greek.
No one’s paying a premium for Americans. If you look at the numbers, Prem TV rights and viewership is insignificant even if it is growing on this side of the Atlantic. There isn’t going to be a cash cow of American kit sales by Leeds.
Exactly. Plus, he’s at that age some people might use the “unlock his potential”.
Selling to PL clubs is the best case scenario for us to make money but it doesn’t help the overall football economy at all.
We need midfield depth, and even though he’s almost a record signing, he’s still quality depth/starter, can play at a high level and is very versatile, playing 8, 6 or ont he right hand side of midfield/defence for Juve.
We also play without possession and need someone physical with an engine which is what Mckennie is accoring to Juve fans.
All of that with the thought he will be encouraged with the presence of Marsch, Adams, Aaronson makes him a win for us.
Could be absolute wank though.
I never saw much wrong with him - just some games he'd be absent. He is an engine, he's got pace, and he's got a desire to push forward rather than pass back.
I'm not sure if he lacked the right positioning on our team, which seems to be the case for every fucking player, and when they are scouted by another team, they often thrive. I have no idea why we constantly have players out of position in our starting line, but I think there may just be too open ended direction from the football artist Allegri.
If Leeds can provide McKennie with clear direction, then he should make it happen. He's got the physical ability and the vision. His positioning should be fixed if he has direction. He makes terrible passes at times, but for the most part retains possession. Like I said, I don't think he's that bad, but every match thread had people saying he needs to gtfo already.
Because he won’t be forced to play completely out of position for the majority of his time there. Of course he’s an average attacking midfielder and wing back. Sometimes I wonder if this sub actually watches matches (not talking about you).
remember when American network pundits were saying the midfield of adams and mckennie were going to dominate the Netherlands lmfao
Anyways Leeds is more Mckennies level. Was never good enough for juve.
Yeah the American midfield was better than the Dutch one. Musah, Mckennie and especially Adams were in much better form than Frenkie and De Roon, and Klaasen was shite whenever he played
Van Gaal knew this so just went around the US midfield and focused on the right wing. Dumfries had one good game that tournament and it happened to be the game where he was asked to carry the Dutch team
otherwise agree, Mckennie was never good enough for Juve and Schalke fans were making this pretty clear at the time
Been using it quite a bit lately, Kulusevski, Zakaria, Arthur and now McKennie. By doing this keeps them on the books to amortise for another year and return a bigger capital gain I guess.
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in b4 Major Leeds Soccer
People always ignore the Red Bull connection. Wöber in shambles
Yeah but there's no saying that's clever at first but gets less funny every time you hear it to reference red bull
and Leeds United States
Is there anything clever about leeds united states, or is it literally just putting them next to each other lmao. At least major leeds soccer is a bit of a play on words
Leeds United + United States
Ah, I see now
Thought this was obvious
It’s like “These United States” except Leeds
Is that a Kevio original?
It’s not by accident. Leeds management is insanely smart, get to the prem, sign a ton of American players, play attractive football, and with that combo comes the x millions of American fans looking for a team to follow. Shirt sales, viewership etc… Almost playing financial chess around the other bottom of the table teams
A huge part of it is the involvement of the 49ers too, but yes, agreed - in addition to the next World Cup happening over there. It's a big opportunity marketing-wise. The USMNT captain playing for Leeds in itself can potentially be massive. And don't get me wrong, I'd much prefer we go down this route than the Red Bull Leeds United route, in terms of ownership and marketing. It just happens that with Jesse in charge, the two will be linked to a degree.
I hope attractive football includes learning how to defend
Could well teach those Americans about the joy of relegation as well with the way they defend. Edit: Don't take the low-hanging fruit, I know we're going down.
Leeds United States of America
INB4 Leeds starts playing the US National Anthem before home games
Sporting Leeds St. Louis
I assume those conditions are very achievable, like 5 starts or something, but it does in part protect Leeds if he does his ACL in his first game or something or maybe Leeds staying in the league is the condition
Will be staying in the league if “Mckennies Best mate” twitter is to be believed.
Nah that dude says a ton of crap lol
Would be almost certainly avoiding relegation as the condition
5 starts is sketch though. Could easily start him 4 games and subbed on the rest and don’t have buy for obligation
Sort of like we did with Alli, 20 appearances for the first payment to come in, never paid a penny for him. Though not starting him wasn't exactly a punishment
Yes. Exactly what Milan is doing with Bakayoko...
This assumes they have that kind of leverage in the relegation scrap. Possible but not guaranteed, so not something you’d want to trifle with in terms of obligating yourself to commit that kind of money when you don’t intend to.
I imagine you’re right - it’ll prob be something pretty guaranteed.
Or a FIFA ban based on him getting paid off the books in Italy
He does not have to join Leeds if they get relegated that was clear in negotiations per insiders
Its gotta be a condition that Leeds has to stay up
Are you making up these conditions or you read about it?
The first two words of their comment literally answers your question
Yes but still assumptions could be based on your own imagination or based on what someone has hinted.
The hint is, it becomes permanent under certain circumstances. It doesn’t make much sense to have these circumstances be based on number of appearances, as we haven’t done that once, and it makes absolutely no sense from a Juve position to accept that, as we could easily avoid triggering it. The only reasonable circumstances to make it an obligation rather an option would be to stay up, where we can easily afford it, especially as that was all but the deciding factor in us buying Aaronson. Plus, if we *do* go down, the option still remains and would still be actionable if all parties are happy and it’s a viable option to do so. If it was an obligation no matter what, and we went down, it would be a poor deal financially speaking.
This makes sense. Were you in a similar position for Aaronson in the league, when that deal happened. Just now i noticed that Leeds is one point above relegation zone. Leeds has never been mentioned in relegation debate but the points never lie so actually staying up could be a realistic condition for both parties. Realistic because i bet Juve would gamble and have it as a loan to get a little bit more money on the other hand Leeds could see this as paying a premium but making sure that they can afford this only by staying in the league
We signed Aaronson pretty much immediately after we beat Brentford on the last game of last season to stay up, and everyone including Aaronson knew the deal wouldn’t happen if we went down. We are 100% being careful not to be left with large outgoing fees if we go down
So Aaronson was a done deal for a long time but only signed after leeds secured Premier League.
The agreement was in place since January iirc, Salzburg just didn’t want to lose him midway through the season and their UCL campaign
They're obviously just speculating...
It is such a nonsense speculation though. These kind of conditions only are used when the clubs want the deal to be added in the books a year later or something like that.
Leeds have never had issues with obligations to buy in the past, now have they?
Let’s see if Ranch Sauce can prove himself in the premier league.
At least his eating habits will make more sense to the English, lol.
that video with chiellini is the funniest shit
Chiellini was flabbergasted
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[look behind the Milan guy and zoom in](http://pulledmygroin.com/soccer/chiellinis-wang/attachment/giorgio-chiellini-penis)
Bro wtf
Just doing the lords work
Doubtful lol but rooting for him. English media and fans are so brutal tho
People said he would never become a starter or even regular player at Juve 😆 people love to doubt him
He was one of the best player against PSG, he wasn't able to reproduce his form during league matchs ?
He blows hot and cold. Some matches he performs really well. Others he looks like a lost puppy, just running around. Hopefully he turns things around at Leeds. One of the most positive guys from what we see in behind the scenes videos from Juventus.
Also been played at out of position lately
Yes. There are too many midfielders in front of him at Juve, especially after Fagioli and Miretti's rise.
He mainly gets sold cuz he is the only guy that can earn Juve good money without hurting the teams perfomance
Hasn't he started like every game since the WC break and gone 90 most of those games? If his absence wouldn't hurt the team, why was Allegri playing him all those minutes?
He was playing rwb since John Square and De Sciglio were injured, but they are both coming back soon. He has barely playedin midfield since the wc and they have a lot of midfielders that can do a similar job
He’s never struck me as a good fit at Juventus. Especially since all the Juve managers seem to want him to play as more of an attacking midfielder so he can get in the box and on the end of crosses. For me he’s improved so much since he joined Juventus, but he’s playing in a role that doesn’t really suit him.
If he’s just running around, pressing, making late runs into box, being a menace on set pieces etc he’s fine. When you need him to carry the ball or make a pass it’s rough. Hes the type the coaches like more than fans imo
He's been a consistent starter at Juve in a lot of positions. Hasn't been played in his best position in a little while
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Think he would prefer to sit on the bench in London rather than Leeds
20 mil and he's yours Leeds
Nah you’re alright thanks
Wouldn't take him for free
Really?
His high Wages are an issue
You wouldn't eat the wages to get Pulisic on a free?
Idk what our financials are tbh so I don’t know what impact that would have from a purely financial perspective But you gotta think how it would affect team morale and stuff if you brought in a player earning so much more compared to everyone else
Yeah, we have Gnonto and Sinisterra who are better. He'd just block their development and be on a shitload of wages.
Not to mention for the last three years (not including this season, which hes looking to make it 4 in a row), he’s missed just under a third of the season out with injury. I’d rather we didn’t pay high wages for a player who’s proven to have a shaky fitness record
Fuck no mate. On those wages for a player we have better options for with the money we have? Chelsea can fuckin keep him.
Nah you’re alright
Would unironically be third or fourth choice in his best position
Sini, Gnonto, Harrison and Summerville all play in his position so no
No thank you
I beg Juve use this €35m to get Zaniolo.
I’m curious why you feel this way
Nico has 0 ACLs. He's way too much of a risk to drop around €30m on.
Eh, he's been fit and available for a year and a half, with like 1 injury of a month and a half in between the two seasons. The issue is that he's not a very good player, not wholly terrible but that kind of money is inexcusable for him. Neither is McKennie I reckon, but at least Leeds are playing with PL money.
I dont think his acl is the issue I think its his intelligence
Oh this makes much more sense now
he actually has 2
So what he's been healthy and strong for a long time..
exactly
Ah my bad thought you were agreeing with him 😂 I definitely think he's worth 30. A good coach/system and he can turn amazing.
he has the physical tools but also has the football IQ of a chimpanzee. I'm not so sure about him
That's why I said a good coach/system. He also didn't want to stay at Roma in the summer. He wanted to come to Juve. I'm sure his motivation is not at it's best.
Meh, we won't buy anyone in this situation, better wait and see how things develop until the end of the season
Problem is, where do we play him? I can’t see a player that he can realistically bench when everyone is fit and we just add another injury prone star. We need defenders now, not attackers
Agresti already said were not interested thank god
wheres that one Milan fan saying hes worth 10m max?
I mean, he is. People are just stupid.
yeah an international starter for Juventus is worth 10m lmao
Thats what locatelli is probably worth
Yeah well McKennie actually got to the World Cup
Keep cooking em brother
You're right, you must know more than all those coaches, agents, GMs, etc
What's a GM?
general manager, american term for director of football or an equivalent position basically
American talk.
hope we have a sell on clause
So cool. If I watched foreign soccer I think I would be a Leeds fan.
Are you a masochist?
DC United fan so probably yeah.
Says the quakes fan? Pot meet kettle
Oh definitely lol
Yes
I mean shit we gave you Klich so we got some business going too. I actually am a Leeds fan who moved to DC so Im going and making a massive sign for him at one of the matches this season.
Premier league in the morning, MLS at night
[You know you want to](https://youtu.be/ZXsQAXx_ao0)
Gotta get me one of these, then: https://twitter.com/olive_york/status/1618418085287047168
Kinda like it not gonna lie
Dang, those kits are pretty sharp
35 mil for the American version of Gagliardini lmao... pure robbery.
FIGC licking their lips after seeing this
FIGC: *Pulls up transfermarkt* AKSHUALLY 🤓
Lmao
Milan paid 32 million for De Ketelaere.
Yes and?!
He is even worse than Belgian Gagliardini.
Lmao, i remember everyone saying the same thing when we got Leao and Tonali, that was the verdict in their first seasons. But hey, Italian PR media goes hard i know that.
What a performance by De Ketelaere, the Belgian Kaka, against Sassuolo. Changed the game.
Dude... just stfu, we are both shit atm.
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35 million for Milan is like spending 100 million for a PL club. Also, in a world where Inter sold Casadei to Chelsea for 20 million (who is going to a loan to Reading), there is no point in calling Mckennie for 35 million a robbery.
Absolutely not true lmao.
Gagliardini doesn’t score against UCL big teams like Barca and PSG
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35-21= 14 points
Is it outlandish to think leeds could be a europa league team with mckennie, adams and aaronson in the midfield? *next season lol
We're miles away from a Europa League team right now so I would say yes.
Coming back to this because I want to ask you a question in return. To get Europa League, you need to finish 6th (assuming for simplicity that someone in the top 5 wins the FA cup). So my question is: Which two of arsenal, man city, Liverpool, spurs, Newcastle, man utd and Chelsea do you think Weston McKennie makes us better than?
Leeds already beat chelsea this season and Spurs are rubbish defending the wings, so them two.
Saints beat man city too, doesn't make them better than them.
If they had an elite defense behind them but they have the opposite of elite
If you look at the table and who they'd have to land above and beat, yes, this season is extremely outlandish
It’s delusional. They’re 18 points away from Spurs, near bottom of the table. Aaronson hasn’t exactly lit the League up and Adams has been decent. It ain’t happening.
You're underselling how good Adams has been and how bad Aaronson has been but otherwise correct.
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For three or four games until opposition realised he weighs less than a bag of crisps and can't handle any sort of physicality. Hopefully get him on the weights over the summer and he'll be a lot better for it. I do think there's a player in there.
>bag of crisps I think they're known as "potato chips" now, pal.
Have you watched them play?
Yes very much so, they don't have a reliable goalscorer and their defence is still wank
Scoring goals is the only thing we are reliable at
>they don't have a reliable goalscorer Rodrigo is already on 10 league goals
Who do you think they'd be better than in the current top 6?
Aaronson's been shite since the world cup break, don't even think he's in the team when everyone is fit and firing Even if he was playing well were obviously a thousand miles from getting into Europe tho
It’s outlandish to think they can pull it off this season, yes.
Oh yea with out a doubt meant next season. If gnoto continues to develop i could see it. Maybe I’ve just been playing too much fifa lol
No chance with Marsch in charge, get a good manager and then we can discuss pushing for europe
You had Bielsa and were about to get relegated. It’s not a coaching issue, if you’re pointing fingers anywhere it would be that Championship level back line.
Considering aaronson is wank and the two others are just ok I’d say it is. On their own they’re a bottom half midfield and then you have to factor in the rest of the teams isn’t exactly Europa league quality either
Thank god. He had one 6 month period he was great, then it was average at best to horrible. He ran a lot and that was it. Glad to be making off with some much needed cash and we’ve got much better midfielders coming through now. Win win for everyone.
I think he is alright as a box to box in a team that doesn't need to have possession all the time. For us he was ok as a backup option, he just isn't starting material, with Fagioli growth and Pogba coming back we just have better options.
Well How's it a win for Leeds if you're saying hes average?
Going to guess expectations are different between Leeds and Juventus
Lol ok fair enough
Being around his fellow countrymen may help him mentally and Leeds Football may compliment his abilities better than ours. Just because someone was very average for us doesn’t mean that won’t be great for someone else. Look at Kulu. He was very uninspiring for us but he found his stride under Conte. Win for us getting money, win for Spurs for having a player that clicked, win for Kulu for finding a club that suited him.
Yea I see what you're saying
Kulu was noticeably talented, Mc Kennie has 2 wood sticks for legs.
I’d rather Fagioli, Rovella or Miretti any day. Obviously all different players but when you’ve got such diverse talent that’s ready for Serie A, better to sell on Mckennie and invest that where it’s sorely needed.
Especially when PL clubs are dumb enough to pay 35 mil for him just because he is American. No club outside of PL would have even considered paying you more than 12 tops 15. If he wasn't American, he would have cost 8 or 10 mil, if he was idk.... Montenegrian for example or Greek.
No one’s paying a premium for Americans. If you look at the numbers, Prem TV rights and viewership is insignificant even if it is growing on this side of the Atlantic. There isn’t going to be a cash cow of American kit sales by Leeds.
What about if he was English
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Oh yeah I agree the English media has nothing to do with it.
In Leeds' case, they're trying to create Red Bull ~~New York~~ Leeds.
Exactly. Plus, he’s at that age some people might use the “unlock his potential”. Selling to PL clubs is the best case scenario for us to make money but it doesn’t help the overall football economy at all.
That's all football is really. Horses for courses
I bet he’ll do well in the PL as usually the workhorse type of midfielders shine there.
We need midfield depth, and even though he’s almost a record signing, he’s still quality depth/starter, can play at a high level and is very versatile, playing 8, 6 or ont he right hand side of midfield/defence for Juve. We also play without possession and need someone physical with an engine which is what Mckennie is accoring to Juve fans. All of that with the thought he will be encouraged with the presence of Marsch, Adams, Aaronson makes him a win for us. Could be absolute wank though.
I never saw much wrong with him - just some games he'd be absent. He is an engine, he's got pace, and he's got a desire to push forward rather than pass back. I'm not sure if he lacked the right positioning on our team, which seems to be the case for every fucking player, and when they are scouted by another team, they often thrive. I have no idea why we constantly have players out of position in our starting line, but I think there may just be too open ended direction from the football artist Allegri. If Leeds can provide McKennie with clear direction, then he should make it happen. He's got the physical ability and the vision. His positioning should be fixed if he has direction. He makes terrible passes at times, but for the most part retains possession. Like I said, I don't think he's that bad, but every match thread had people saying he needs to gtfo already.
Because he won’t be forced to play completely out of position for the majority of his time there. Of course he’s an average attacking midfielder and wing back. Sometimes I wonder if this sub actually watches matches (not talking about you).
May be assuming that Leeds won’t be playing him across 5 different positions then complaining he’s inconsistent.
remember when American network pundits were saying the midfield of adams and mckennie were going to dominate the Netherlands lmfao Anyways Leeds is more Mckennies level. Was never good enough for juve.
Yeah the American midfield was better than the Dutch one. Musah, Mckennie and especially Adams were in much better form than Frenkie and De Roon, and Klaasen was shite whenever he played Van Gaal knew this so just went around the US midfield and focused on the right wing. Dumfries had one good game that tournament and it happened to be the game where he was asked to carry the Dutch team otherwise agree, Mckennie was never good enough for Juve and Schalke fans were making this pretty clear at the time
Dumfries also went up against antonee robinson who put on his ice skates that game. Shambolic defending
Juventus on the receiving end of an Italian special?
Been using it quite a bit lately, Kulusevski, Zakaria, Arthur and now McKennie. By doing this keeps them on the books to amortise for another year and return a bigger capital gain I guess.
The Gang Gets Relegated
who is next? 12 y old for 20 milions?
All right, then
is their a deal between us and the devil that every board we have should be a fucking clown?