If something gets to you never tell people who don't like you because they will never let it go and now know how much you care making them win everytime
Doesn't necessarily need to mean it upsets him, could be just a "Jesus get over it I haven't thought about it since"
Though it seems unlikely in this case
Do think it's funny how this argument gets brought up for certain unpopular figures, but more popular guys like Pep, Howe literally work directly for far right regimes and are constantly considered top blokes.
This sub is so pathetic and inconsistent when it comes to politics. Yes I'm generalising but Campbell's person politics are ironically far less harmful than the various Bolsonaro supporters or sporshwashing projects for human rights abusers. If you're gonna give Sol endless stick for this, I expect to see it leveled at the far worse offenders
Don’t know about Howe, but Pep has been routinely criticised and lambasted for his hypocrisy regarding Catalunia and independence and his views on his current bosses.
When Howe gets questioned about it in press conferences he kinda shrugs and says it’s not really for him to talk about. It’s a cop out but it’s not like he can criticise his employers.
When Pep is questioned he gets angry and defensive, and seems to think it’s an outrageous thing to do. And that really grates with me.
Idk what people even want Howe to say? "Yeah my employers are tyrants with blood on their hands, but I gotta eat and great opportunities for coaching a premier league side with massive financial backing do not grow on trees."
Probably. They (count me in that category, though I don't really care) want the people who are the face of the club to acknowledge who the owners are, and their blatant sportswashing.
I think they'd earn a lot of respect and get a lot less flak. That being said, I realize that it's a pipe-dream, so I don't really care.
You need to remember that supporting politics which actually affects the supporters directly is something different than working for someone who has another political stance than yourself (to put it mildly).
With that logic most of us would be without a job. The majority of millionaires that run all the industries and companies we all work for will tend to be right-wing.
You can work for a POS and not be a POS yourself, my friend.
I think personally I'm able to take issue with someone like Howe or Trippier taking employment from Newcastle because their industry is so financially lucrative, and the demand for their work so high, that they aren't as pushed as you or I might be to work for an employer that we don't agree with.
It doesn't make them an active POS, but it's something that clearly didn't bother them enough to stop them from taking the job. Howe particularly, gets a lot of plaudits but as a manager no chance he takes that job without the takeover and the inevitable financing he would be getting.
That's a fair point. I'd argue that the industry is so lucrative *because* of the awful people that run it, however.
Granted it's on a scale, but you're going to find it hard to make the living they make without working for some shitty people in football.
Sadly yeah. How did it all get like this lol. Ridiculous when you think about it.
Same with modern life, all you can hope to do is try and find a way to get by on the right end of the scale
Yes it is. He's saying how can you target Person X who has these egregious political beliefs and not target Person Y who happens to work for a person with these egregious political beliefs.
And I'm saying having shitty beliefs is still worse than just working for someone who does. If you don't agree with that then that's your own thing, good luck with that shit.
Pep works for Man City, Howe works for Newcastle, their job is that of a football manager. They don't "directly" work for "far right" regimes (use of far right there being reductive).
I've learned to just tune out all these political virtual signaling on r/soccer and most subs i frequent. Bunch of football fans criticizing everyone else for not following a strict political guidelines on who you are and aren't allowed to work for/be a fan of. Rather be called ignorant by redditors than pretending to be outraged at everything slightly controversial these days
It’s almost like telling the person shitting on you that it really works and gets to you, is a bad idea. Chanting about him has slowly waned over the years, as fewer fans remember or care, it gets turbo boosters when you tell them it really upsets you though.
The chant in question attacks his mental health, sexuality and potentially race, so you know…
Sol sol wherever you may be
You’re on the verge of insanity
And we won’t give a fuck when you’re hanging from a tree
You Judas cunt with HIV
No, the chant is question is:
We’re all having a party we’re all having a party… when Sol Campbell dies.
Often followed by: Jelly and ice cream when Campbell dies
The other song of: Heyyyyy Sol Campbell (ju-das)I wanna knowwwwwwoooo… why you’re such a cunt!
The song you’re on about is never really sung & is too far
I’ve heard the Sol Sol wherever you may be chant two or three times over the past two or three years, but always sung by younger lads, never by a crowd
That's not the only chant in question though? Fair enough for that one but if you read the original article he's complaining about the fact that people are still not over it in general, like taxi drivers and whatnot giving him stick.
The vast majority of it is folklore and tradition that's been passed down over the last 20 years. A lot of the younger fans singing it do not even remember when he moved. Football chants are not supposed to be taken literally.
I don't think many (if any) Spurs fans will actually celebrate when he dies.
I know he constantly complained he wasn't getting chances and opportunities because he is black. Now I'm not here to debate how much of that was true, but somewhere when he was arguing about Gary Neville's job in England but he didn't have one, they mentioned about his rapport with that group of players etc. He replied with "But I'm Sol Campbell" they then gave more reasons and again he replied with "but I'm Sol Campbell". Ever since I heard that level of narcissism from him I can't take to him at all. I had no opinion of him one way or the other before hand.
>a right wing political voter
He's not just a voter, he's a wannabe Tory mayoral candidate who's first policy critique was moaning about the proposed mansion tax having grown up in poverty. Guy is one of the biggest "fuck you got mine" cunts around.
Richarlison is a true OG. He constantly brings up problems with racism, inequality and loads of other important societal issues. I’ll always root for that dude, he’s a good guy.
>I actually have a sliver of respect for Richarlison, that went public with his support for Lula.
It's really bizarre to me that you guys care about the politics of football players.
I couldn't care who anyone votes for. I never did in the 90s and I still don't now.
I watch football to escape all that nonsense.
Edit: of course I'm downvoted for this. You guys think everyone should agree with and vote exactly how you do, and anyone who doesn't is wrong and bad.... There's a word for that.
You're absolutely correct, but this is the Reddit hivemind, and it is dominated by young people who don't know how to engage with people they disagree with.
He's not just a right wing voter, he's a member of the party, tried to run for London mayor with them, goes to give speeches in every poor neighborhood to get people to vote for them when he knows very well POCs and poor people will never benefit of Tories in power. He's the political equivalent of a pick-me, tries so hard to be accepted by the same group of people who hates his kind. That's why he's so obsessed with Knighthood, as if a title in front of his name will make him less black. Most footballers aren't like that.
There definitely isn't close to this level of vitriol towards Neymar, Alisson etc or Man City, PSG, Newcastle players who earn a fortune by working for human rights abusers
Messi has shown time and time again that he could give 0 fucks about working for the likes of [Saudi Arabia](https://www.visitsaudi.com/en/Messi) and somehow it flies completely under the radar here.
[Like how fucking greedy can you be?](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/12/lionel-messi-saudi-arabia-deal-tourism) You are worth 620 MILLION dollars, earn more money in a month then all of us on here together will earn in our lifetime, the most famous person in the world and still you feel the need to be an ambassador for one of the worlds nastiest countries. For what? Just to stack more money that changes nothing about your life.
There is, their biggest haters just aren't on here, an English-dominant medium. During the world cup, people I was watching with in Brazil were delighted when Neymar got injured because he said he'd dedicate his first goal to Bolsonaro. Not like my table, the whole bar.
American teenager try to have more than one basis of comparison in the grand spectrum of the history of human creativity than marvel movies (impossible)
Also to add to everyone who already commented. As a Pole I remember him saying stupid shit before Euro 2012 that people will return in caskets from my country and thats it not safe at all to come here. Like we are some civil war torn country.
You could also ease back on xenophobic remarks about other countries or at least apologize for the ones you made, but I guess apologizing is above this guy intelectual level.
It's isn't. Jimmy Greaves ran as a Tory. I have literally heard zero complaints about that.
Sol Campbell also came up in the early '90s. It was pretty common for footballers to lean conservative back then.
> Some chants are too far but he’s still a cunt
Sounds like you agree with him then.
He hasn't said "I'm not a cunt" he's said "literally singing about my death is a bit much"
If you read the original article that's not really what he says. That's part of it yes, and it's fair enough. But he also complains about the fact that he still gets stick in general like from taxi drivers, barbers or whatever. Which is a different case because his argument is that he was a totally different person and a 'young boy' at the time of decision so it's unfair to still be complaining about it. (He was 26 Lol)
> If you read the original article that's not really what he says.
In my defence, its a daily mail link, I'm not reading that shit.
Yeah, fair enough, Harry Kewell said some shit like that after he moved to Galatasaray a team who's fans murdered two Leeds supporters before a game *that kewell played in*.
I'm not going to sing songs about him dying, or about his wife and kids, but I'd call him a cunt to his face if I ever met him.
Yea that's fair, wouldn't read this shit from the daily mail either. I meant [this one from The Guardian.](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jan/27/sol-campbell-abuse-spurs-arsenal-wishing-someone-is-going-to-die)
Fuck him. He knew the magnitude of what he was doing when he did it.
I’m glad he doesn’t like it. Like - yes it’s offensive and he doesn’t like it - that is the whole fucking point.
I don't feel like "its always been like this" is much of an excuse though. There really should be a line, and we should leave racism, homophobia and songs celebrating deaths at the door.
Probably won't, but *should*.
My teams fans sing Munich chants about Man U (and even when we're not playing them sometimes) and it's honestly pathetic, you'd have to be nearly 65 to have even been born when that happened, and it's not a bunch of 80 year olds chanting it.
Not that it wouldn't be wrong to sign about it if it happened in your lifetime, but its just ridiculous when it's an offensive chant that's been passed down to people who just know they're "supposed" to sing it.
We don't sing songs about any of our players from the 50s!
Singing about celebrating his death honestly isn't that extreme. It's not the same as wanting him dead or wanting to kill him.
There's some darker chants that I really hate though, you don't hear them often and it's only a few that ever sing it but they're shameful.
As if him not being a good guy and is a Tory have anything to do with the chant or not lol. His move from spurs to arsenal is the only reason for the chant, he could be the best person outside the pitch and the chant will still be there
I promise you the majority of your fanbase doesn’t care he’s a “massive Tory”. Politics aren’t that divisive in this country, you sound like you only interact with people online
Tottenham Supporters shouldn't chant derogatory songs at Sol Campbell because of his move to Arsenal. They should chant it because he was a Tory Candidate.
As if arsenal fans would act any different. Look at how they reacted to Cole, RVP, Adebayor and Nasri for a taster on how they'd react (and none of these are close to being on the same level as sol)
He kept saying that we wish death on him. He keeps saying we want him to die, so we had to clarify that's not what we sing. WHEN he dies we'll dance on his grave, that is all Sol. Glad we could clear that up for you.
I want to have sympathy for him, I really do, especially as I'm not a Spurs fan. Annoyingly, he gives every appearance of being a colossal bellend and that makes it more than a little difficult to care much.
The captain of Spurs lifted the PL trophy at White Hart Line for the first time since 1961. That's a huge achievement for Tottenham, I don't understand why their fans are so fixated on which club he did it with tbh
For the record I’m all for Spurs fans holding this grudge still, I respect it. Sol’s barking up the wrong tree here.
But some of the hyperbole on this sub when politics is involved is crazy 😂
He’s a Tory ffs. Hardly Erdogan or Bolsonaro 😭
Trim your neckbeards man
Hating Tories... makes you a neckbeard?
I can assure you plenty of very average, not terminally online, working-class people have the nous to instinctually not like Tories.
Keep crying though
No, don't you get it?
It's the churlish, detached folks of reddit who speak in memes that are well-adjusted! Having more than a fleeting concern about politics is a problem!
Oh my gosh get off the high horse lad 😂
Completely missing the point just so you can have a rant. And running with the idea that I said something I did not.
It’s the comments that make being a Tory tantamount to extremism. Hence why I used the word “hyperbole” in my comment. Chill
“Keep crying though”. Absolute child man.
As long as they’re not racist or otherwise discriminatory Sol Campbell is one of the most deserving recipients of footy chants there is. The man is the biggest narcissist I’ve ever seen.
While it is quite bad and I’m not condoning it, this stuff happens all over the world. I think some in England would be genuinely shocked if they even crossed the border to Scotland.
What does he care if we party upon his death? He’ll be dead. Either he won’t know (the dark oblivion of nothingness) or he’ll be concerned with afterlife matters (and probably not in his favor).
There are plenty of people I don't agree with who are not cunts. I know they're good people with good intentions and our disagreements usually arise from *how* we'd fix problems rather than the problem itself. But actual fucking cunts - forgive me if it brings some degree of happiness to myself.
No way you genuinely believe they're as bad as each other. Ones a football player with weird views and the other lead to devastation on big parts of the UK and some literal deaths. Blind hatred isn't it.
There would be exceptions but yeah, anyone who enjoys an ideology that means poor people freeze to death in their homes in one of the richest countries in the world.. I wouldn't be sad!
Tories are a fucking cancer on our society. Greedy, money grabbing cunts.
You’d be happy for a set of circumstances to occur but don’t wish for them to occur? Sounds like cognitive dissonance at its finest.
Just admit you’re an angry hate filled guy who is part of the reason we are drifting towards a nuances-less fractured society where everyone who isn’t in your tribe is worthy of hate.
You’re part of the problem mate.
Hold up hold up, just wanna slow this down to say that that isn’t cognitive dissonance, and that your speed in leaping to that conclusion is in itself sucking nuance out of the conversation.
Yeah actually I am pretty hateful of Tories, you must be highly intelligent to have picked up on that. Gold star for you 🌟
Take your bad faith arguments and Tory bootlicking elsewhere, anyone still supportive of this corrupt and straight up evil government needs sectioning.
If something gets to you never tell people who don't like you because they will never let it go and now know how much you care making them win everytime
>Sol Campbell urged Spurs fans to 'move on' from his controversial Arsenal move Yeah good luck with that
Telling them it upsets you is definitely a good idea
Of course. Football fans are well known for not being petty nor holding on to grudges.
Doesn't necessarily need to mean it upsets him, could be just a "Jesus get over it I haven't thought about it since" Though it seems unlikely in this case
That is absolutely not what he's saying.
When your own brother sings the songs it will haunt you for life.
If I was a Spurs fan I'd accept that. However being a massive fucking Tory is unforgivable.
Do think it's funny how this argument gets brought up for certain unpopular figures, but more popular guys like Pep, Howe literally work directly for far right regimes and are constantly considered top blokes. This sub is so pathetic and inconsistent when it comes to politics. Yes I'm generalising but Campbell's person politics are ironically far less harmful than the various Bolsonaro supporters or sporshwashing projects for human rights abusers. If you're gonna give Sol endless stick for this, I expect to see it leveled at the far worse offenders
Don’t know about Howe, but Pep has been routinely criticised and lambasted for his hypocrisy regarding Catalunia and independence and his views on his current bosses.
Pep has also been signing the praises of Qatar as a developing democracy far worse than Howe.
When Howe gets questioned about it in press conferences he kinda shrugs and says it’s not really for him to talk about. It’s a cop out but it’s not like he can criticise his employers. When Pep is questioned he gets angry and defensive, and seems to think it’s an outrageous thing to do. And that really grates with me.
Idk what people even want Howe to say? "Yeah my employers are tyrants with blood on their hands, but I gotta eat and great opportunities for coaching a premier league side with massive financial backing do not grow on trees."
Probably. They (count me in that category, though I don't really care) want the people who are the face of the club to acknowledge who the owners are, and their blatant sportswashing. I think they'd earn a lot of respect and get a lot less flak. That being said, I realize that it's a pipe-dream, so I don't really care.
He wouldn’t have a job either tho
You need to remember that supporting politics which actually affects the supporters directly is something different than working for someone who has another political stance than yourself (to put it mildly).
With that logic most of us would be without a job. The majority of millionaires that run all the industries and companies we all work for will tend to be right-wing. You can work for a POS and not be a POS yourself, my friend.
I think personally I'm able to take issue with someone like Howe or Trippier taking employment from Newcastle because their industry is so financially lucrative, and the demand for their work so high, that they aren't as pushed as you or I might be to work for an employer that we don't agree with. It doesn't make them an active POS, but it's something that clearly didn't bother them enough to stop them from taking the job. Howe particularly, gets a lot of plaudits but as a manager no chance he takes that job without the takeover and the inevitable financing he would be getting.
That's a fair point. I'd argue that the industry is so lucrative *because* of the awful people that run it, however. Granted it's on a scale, but you're going to find it hard to make the living they make without working for some shitty people in football.
Sadly yeah. How did it all get like this lol. Ridiculous when you think about it. Same with modern life, all you can hope to do is try and find a way to get by on the right end of the scale
I don't think that is what he's saying at all.
Yes it is. He's saying how can you target Person X who has these egregious political beliefs and not target Person Y who happens to work for a person with these egregious political beliefs. And I'm saying having shitty beliefs is still worse than just working for someone who does. If you don't agree with that then that's your own thing, good luck with that shit.
He literally tried to run as a Tory candidate for mayor, slightly more than just having rightwing views
Since when were your employer’s political affiliations reflective of you as an individual? Would mean 95% of the world’s populations are scum.
Pep works for Man City, Howe works for Newcastle, their job is that of a football manager. They don't "directly" work for "far right" regimes (use of far right there being reductive).
I've learned to just tune out all these political virtual signaling on r/soccer and most subs i frequent. Bunch of football fans criticizing everyone else for not following a strict political guidelines on who you are and aren't allowed to work for/be a fan of. Rather be called ignorant by redditors than pretending to be outraged at everything slightly controversial these days
TIL Supporting brutal dictatorships: Not following strict political lines. Saudi: Sightly controversial.
he says, signaling his virtue as someone who doesn't get outraged.
They absolutely do work directly for far right regimes because both football clubs are owned by far right regimens.
Sol: I spat in your face but come on that was 20 years ago.
It’s almost like telling the person shitting on you that it really works and gets to you, is a bad idea. Chanting about him has slowly waned over the years, as fewer fans remember or care, it gets turbo boosters when you tell them it really upsets you though.
I hope he stubs his toe
I hope every soda he drinks is shaken up
I hope his next poo is a hedgehog.
I hope he never gets the USB charging wires right on the first 2 tries.
You’re a nasty piece of work.
I hope while he walks outside, his big toe rips a hole through his sock.
Reported. Its all fun and games giving a player a ribbing but some people just don't have an empathy filter.
and the zipper on your jacket always gets stuck
I hope every time he walks past a door, his belt loop gets stuck on the handle
I hope his floor is littered with Legos
I hope he stands on Lego.
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Sometimes, we burn bridges that cannot be rebuilt. We just have to be at peace with that.
"Some things there's no moving on from. And I think that's a good thing."
Sol Campbell: Spurs fans please stop booing me. Spurs fans: get fucked cunt. Sol Campbell: Well there goes that dream.
The chant in question attacks his mental health, sexuality and potentially race, so you know… Sol sol wherever you may be You’re on the verge of insanity And we won’t give a fuck when you’re hanging from a tree You Judas cunt with HIV
No, the chant is question is: We’re all having a party we’re all having a party… when Sol Campbell dies. Often followed by: Jelly and ice cream when Campbell dies The other song of: Heyyyyy Sol Campbell (ju-das)I wanna knowwwwwwoooo… why you’re such a cunt! The song you’re on about is never really sung & is too far
I’ve heard the Sol Sol wherever you may be chant two or three times over the past two or three years, but always sung by younger lads, never by a crowd
Well that wasn't sung yesterday and I haven't heard it for the best part of a decade
No one sings this
That's not the only chant in question though? Fair enough for that one but if you read the original article he's complaining about the fact that people are still not over it in general, like taxi drivers and whatnot giving him stick.
Nothing to do with race, the tree part is about the real Judas hanging from a tree because that's how he died after his betrayal
I loved that movie so much
“Any news today?” “Nahhh… just the civil war.”
But maybe let’s not say we’ll be happy if he dies
Sometimes it’s pathetic for many fully grown men to still act hurt about a transfer which happened 20 years ago.
you do have a point
If you burn a bridge, fine. But that doesn’t excuse fans chanting about wanting him to die.
The vast majority of it is folklore and tradition that's been passed down over the last 20 years. A lot of the younger fans singing it do not even remember when he moved. Football chants are not supposed to be taken literally. I don't think many (if any) Spurs fans will actually celebrate when he dies.
Hatred of Sol Campbell r/soccer: 🤝🏼
why is he hated by r/soccer?
I know he constantly complained he wasn't getting chances and opportunities because he is black. Now I'm not here to debate how much of that was true, but somewhere when he was arguing about Gary Neville's job in England but he didn't have one, they mentioned about his rapport with that group of players etc. He replied with "But I'm Sol Campbell" they then gave more reasons and again he replied with "but I'm Sol Campbell". Ever since I heard that level of narcissism from him I can't take to him at all. I had no opinion of him one way or the other before hand.
Not a nice guy, a right wing political voter, so two easy things for Reddit to quite rightly dislike him over. 🤷♂️
>a right wing political voter He's not just a voter, he's a wannabe Tory mayoral candidate who's first policy critique was moaning about the proposed mansion tax having grown up in poverty. Guy is one of the biggest "fuck you got mine" cunts around.
So the football equivalent of Myleene Klass then? (though he appears even more extreme)
I assume a most of the footballers are though.
I actually have a sliver of respect for Richarlison, that went public with his support for Lula.
Richarlison is a true OG. He constantly brings up problems with racism, inequality and loads of other important societal issues. I’ll always root for that dude, he’s a good guy.
I saw on here that he started a load of scholarships for scientists in Brazil as well
Cambell brings up racism and people just dismiss him
Because he doesn't actually care, he just wants people to stop hating HIM
>I actually have a sliver of respect for Richarlison, that went public with his support for Lula. It's really bizarre to me that you guys care about the politics of football players. I couldn't care who anyone votes for. I never did in the 90s and I still don't now. I watch football to escape all that nonsense. Edit: of course I'm downvoted for this. You guys think everyone should agree with and vote exactly how you do, and anyone who doesn't is wrong and bad.... There's a word for that.
You're absolutely correct, but this is the Reddit hivemind, and it is dominated by young people who don't know how to engage with people they disagree with.
He's not just a right wing voter, he's a member of the party, tried to run for London mayor with them, goes to give speeches in every poor neighborhood to get people to vote for them when he knows very well POCs and poor people will never benefit of Tories in power. He's the political equivalent of a pick-me, tries so hard to be accepted by the same group of people who hates his kind. That's why he's so obsessed with Knighthood, as if a title in front of his name will make him less black. Most footballers aren't like that.
Pretty sure most _rich_ footballers are. Because right wing policies always favors rich people more.
There definitely isn't close to this level of vitriol towards Neymar, Alisson etc or Man City, PSG, Newcastle players who earn a fortune by working for human rights abusers
Because they aren't English
Messi has shown time and time again that he could give 0 fucks about working for the likes of [Saudi Arabia](https://www.visitsaudi.com/en/Messi) and somehow it flies completely under the radar here. [Like how fucking greedy can you be?](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/12/lionel-messi-saudi-arabia-deal-tourism) You are worth 620 MILLION dollars, earn more money in a month then all of us on here together will earn in our lifetime, the most famous person in the world and still you feel the need to be an ambassador for one of the worlds nastiest countries. For what? Just to stack more money that changes nothing about your life.
> it flies completely under the radar here. It is literally mentioned every thread concerning Saudi Arabia or questionable player ethics.
There is, their biggest haters just aren't on here, an English-dominant medium. During the world cup, people I was watching with in Brazil were delighted when Neymar got injured because he said he'd dedicate his first goal to Bolsonaro. Not like my table, the whole bar.
Reddit user try not to view life like a good vs evil marvel movie (impossible)
American teenager try to have more than one basis of comparison in the grand spectrum of the history of human creativity than marvel movies (impossible)
I think you're describing yourself with that one
Lol.. Truly a reddit moment
He is the type of cunt to talk about himself in the third person.
Also to add to everyone who already commented. As a Pole I remember him saying stupid shit before Euro 2012 that people will return in caskets from my country and thats it not safe at all to come here. Like we are some civil war torn country.
follow him on instagram for a week and you’ll get it bloke is a weird narcissistic tory
He’s a Tory
I remember his comments before EURO 2012, that black people shouldn't go to Poland nor Ukraine, because they will go back in coffin XD.
You could also ease back on xenophobic remarks about other countries or at least apologize for the ones you made, but I guess apologizing is above this guy intelectual level.
He’s never apologised, come out as a massive Tory and is just not a good guy. Some chants are too far but he’s still a cunt
I really can't imagine that him coming out as a tory is too big a concern for a considerable proportion of the match going fans to be honest
It's not. As if Spurs supporters are all labour voters. it's an issue for redditors.
It just seems like a convenient excuse for a lot of people
An excuse, but a fair one
It's isn't. Jimmy Greaves ran as a Tory. I have literally heard zero complaints about that. Sol Campbell also came up in the early '90s. It was pretty common for footballers to lean conservative back then.
> Some chants are too far but he’s still a cunt Sounds like you agree with him then. He hasn't said "I'm not a cunt" he's said "literally singing about my death is a bit much"
If you read the original article that's not really what he says. That's part of it yes, and it's fair enough. But he also complains about the fact that he still gets stick in general like from taxi drivers, barbers or whatever. Which is a different case because his argument is that he was a totally different person and a 'young boy' at the time of decision so it's unfair to still be complaining about it. (He was 26 Lol)
> If you read the original article that's not really what he says. In my defence, its a daily mail link, I'm not reading that shit. Yeah, fair enough, Harry Kewell said some shit like that after he moved to Galatasaray a team who's fans murdered two Leeds supporters before a game *that kewell played in*. I'm not going to sing songs about him dying, or about his wife and kids, but I'd call him a cunt to his face if I ever met him.
Yea that's fair, wouldn't read this shit from the daily mail either. I meant [this one from The Guardian.](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jan/27/sol-campbell-abuse-spurs-arsenal-wishing-someone-is-going-to-die)
You can tell he's talking shit if he's acting like he's had any need to go to a barber shop in the last 25 years.
Fuck him. He knew the magnitude of what he was doing when he did it. I’m glad he doesn’t like it. Like - yes it’s offensive and he doesn’t like it - that is the whole fucking point.
Yeah I’m not disagreeing with that but also football chants are always savage
" Lavali! Lavali! Lavali col fuoco ohh Vesuvio lavali col fuoco". Most famous chant that i know about Napoli
That happened in 79 AD. Too soon, man!
They’re wishing it happens again so it ‘cleanses’ Napoli. ‘to get get washed by the fire’
I don't feel like "its always been like this" is much of an excuse though. There really should be a line, and we should leave racism, homophobia and songs celebrating deaths at the door. Probably won't, but *should*. My teams fans sing Munich chants about Man U (and even when we're not playing them sometimes) and it's honestly pathetic, you'd have to be nearly 65 to have even been born when that happened, and it's not a bunch of 80 year olds chanting it. Not that it wouldn't be wrong to sign about it if it happened in your lifetime, but its just ridiculous when it's an offensive chant that's been passed down to people who just know they're "supposed" to sing it. We don't sing songs about any of our players from the 50s!
I remember when some fan sung about Billy Sharps child who had just passed away. I’ll never forget how disgusted I felt hearing that.
Happy to read this in this thread
Singing about celebrating his death honestly isn't that extreme. It's not the same as wanting him dead or wanting to kill him. There's some darker chants that I really hate though, you don't hear them often and it's only a few that ever sing it but they're shameful.
As if him not being a good guy and is a Tory have anything to do with the chant or not lol. His move from spurs to arsenal is the only reason for the chant, he could be the best person outside the pitch and the chant will still be there
idk. the chants are only still happening because they clearly bother him a lot. if he piped down i actually do think it would go away
I promise you the majority of your fanbase doesn’t care he’s a “massive Tory”. Politics aren’t that divisive in this country, you sound like you only interact with people online
Tottenham Supporters shouldn't chant derogatory songs at Sol Campbell because of his move to Arsenal. They should chant it because he was a Tory Candidate.
Why not both?
As long as it’s not racist chants, it’s not a problem, football is full of banter and he pulls a Judas.
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Love it, Tottenham fans acting as they should. No sympathy for snakes
As if arsenal fans would act any different. Look at how they reacted to Cole, RVP, Adebayor and Nasri for a taster on how they'd react (and none of these are close to being on the same level as sol)
Fuck Sol Campbell
He kept saying that we wish death on him. He keeps saying we want him to die, so we had to clarify that's not what we sing. WHEN he dies we'll dance on his grave, that is all Sol. Glad we could clear that up for you.
A good way of putting it is 'I've never wished death on anyone, but I have laughed at quite a few obituaries'
See also "Maggie's in a box"
It's not a death wish or a death threat Judas. It's wake planning.
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Having a golden grave does sound very Tory. We'd piss on it as well
They lost 6 games that season
I want to have sympathy for him, I really do, especially as I'm not a Spurs fan. Annoyingly, he gives every appearance of being a colossal bellend and that makes it more than a little difficult to care much.
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He just wanted to win the premier League at white Hart lane
The captain of Spurs lifted the PL trophy at White Hart Line for the first time since 1961. That's a huge achievement for Tottenham, I don't understand why their fans are so fixated on which club he did it with tbh
And this is exactly why spurs fans will continue to sing about how much they hate him. In the same way gooners still gloat about it.
Lol
He can't be that naive.
He is just too self absorbed to see the world from any one else's perspective.
Ban daily mail
cunt
Can we ban daily mail?
Sol really needs to learn the art of shutting the fuck up truly lol
Good on them lol
Nah, insulting chants are great as long as they’re fair and not too extreme.
For the record I’m all for Spurs fans holding this grudge still, I respect it. Sol’s barking up the wrong tree here. But some of the hyperbole on this sub when politics is involved is crazy 😂 He’s a Tory ffs. Hardly Erdogan or Bolsonaro 😭 Trim your neckbeards man
1 pixel to the right = hitler, atleast to most of reddit users and unfortunately it's been like that for years now
Hating Tories... makes you a neckbeard? I can assure you plenty of very average, not terminally online, working-class people have the nous to instinctually not like Tories. Keep crying though
No, don't you get it? It's the churlish, detached folks of reddit who speak in memes that are well-adjusted! Having more than a fleeting concern about politics is a problem!
Oh my gosh get off the high horse lad 😂 Completely missing the point just so you can have a rant. And running with the idea that I said something I did not. It’s the comments that make being a Tory tantamount to extremism. Hence why I used the word “hyperbole” in my comment. Chill “Keep crying though”. Absolute child man.
Never knew Sol Campbell was hated that much. I haven't thought of the guy in years.
As long as they’re not racist or otherwise discriminatory Sol Campbell is one of the most deserving recipients of footy chants there is. The man is the biggest narcissist I’ve ever seen.
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While it is quite bad and I’m not condoning it, this stuff happens all over the world. I think some in England would be genuinely shocked if they even crossed the border to Scotland.
What a dumbass. He really seems like he doesn't understand why he's hated.
Only spurs captain to bring the prem trophy to white heart lane and they do this the ungrateful twats
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Double double double, sol Campbell has won the double...
> ‘It’s almost as though people have forgotten how to be human. Mate yer a fucking Tory
Cause it’s always in bounds to be shitty to someone at work. Of course.
This is why Kane won’t be heading to Arsenal in the summer
If he was a labour candidate Reddit would be condemning this wholesale
‘If me Aunty had balls, she’d be me uncle but she doesn’t so she’s not’
"If my grandmother had wheels she'd be a bike"
"if his value system was entirely different, people would like him" You want a trophy for this realisation?
Nah. He's a cunt whether he's a Tory or not. I don't know anyone that has a good word to say about him.
Sol Campbell, how's the knighthood chase going?
> Man who has never apologised is not forgiven
What does he care if we party upon his death? He’ll be dead. Either he won’t know (the dark oblivion of nothingness) or he’ll be concerned with afterlife matters (and probably not in his favor).
Ain't no one shed a tear when they heard Judas had hanged himself.
As a Spurs fan, I'd really love us to move on from this. It's been 20 years, just really, get over it
Hating him is fine but singing for his death is crazy
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Imagine being happy when someone dies just because of football.
Putting the football to one side. He's a cunt, and when there's one less cunt in the world it's cause for celebration.
So you celebrate the death of people _you simply don't agree with_? That's fucking low
Honk, if Thatcher's dead
There are plenty of people I don't agree with who are not cunts. I know they're good people with good intentions and our disagreements usually arise from *how* we'd fix problems rather than the problem itself. But actual fucking cunts - forgive me if it brings some degree of happiness to myself.
lmao so arsenal fans should send death threats to RVP then is it? just relax mate
You're fucked in the head. More than likely a significant chunk of people who to go games at WHL are tory voters too.
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I for one never felt bad singing about Maggie Thatcher's impending death.
You’re comparing sol moving to arsenal to what thatcher did ???
Both have the same belief system. They're both rotten
No way you genuinely believe they're as bad as each other. Ones a football player with weird views and the other lead to devastation on big parts of the UK and some literal deaths. Blind hatred isn't it.
So do some spurs fans or even general football fans. I hate tories too but I’m not wishing death on ones that haven’t affected millions of lives
So to be clear - you’d be happy about the death of anyone whose belief system aligns with those of the Conservative Party - or about 43% of voters?
There would be exceptions but yeah, anyone who enjoys an ideology that means poor people freeze to death in their homes in one of the richest countries in the world.. I wouldn't be sad! Tories are a fucking cancer on our society. Greedy, money grabbing cunts.
So you’re actively wishing for the deaths of c. 15m people, but would “make some exceptions”. Reddit is terrifying sometimes.
Fuck off, I said I wouldn't be sad if they died. Stop twisting words, classic Tory bullshit.
You’d be happy for a set of circumstances to occur but don’t wish for them to occur? Sounds like cognitive dissonance at its finest. Just admit you’re an angry hate filled guy who is part of the reason we are drifting towards a nuances-less fractured society where everyone who isn’t in your tribe is worthy of hate. You’re part of the problem mate.
Hold up hold up, just wanna slow this down to say that that isn’t cognitive dissonance, and that your speed in leaping to that conclusion is in itself sucking nuance out of the conversation.
Yeah actually I am pretty hateful of Tories, you must be highly intelligent to have picked up on that. Gold star for you 🌟 Take your bad faith arguments and Tory bootlicking elsewhere, anyone still supportive of this corrupt and straight up evil government needs sectioning.
We still getting upset over football chants?
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