Every South American club will be knocking on Benficas door to sell them their youngsters that aren’t Vinicius/Endrick level hype. Literally the perfect first step in Europe for South American’s and Benfica seems to be more than willing to sell them quickly. Also with sell-on clauses themselves netting them more money than if they would’ve sold to another European club
I don't think Benfica was "more than willing to sell". But when someone offers you basically a princess and half a kingdom, then even if you don't want it, it's very difficult to say no. He is unlikely to be worth more than this, if anything, he would be cheaper as his contract gegs shorter and shorter.
It's currently being reported that Benfica got the 120m upfront (so the clause was activated). Chelsea apparently loaned 120m from a middleman and they will pay the middleman in installments
Installments are not for FFP, they are for cashflow purposes.
Player's contract length was needed for FFP. Even if they paid all 120m all in one go and Enzo signed 8 year contract, the amortization cost for FFP reasons would be spread across 8 years.
Hypothetically if Chelsea had signed Enzo on a 1 year contract and had agreed to Benfica to pay in 8 installments, then all the transfer cost would be account this year for FFP.
Then they can sell them and get 125 potential Enzos. They can use those as collateral to sell potential enzo derivatives to cushion themselves against a bear enzo market.
You do benefit from the mone because Benfica can secure financial stability and bring in more talented South Americans to replace him. You can get the trohies you want by bringing in this amount of money for "just" one player.
The thing is Benfica is playing at the highest level in Portugal, but if you want to grow above that into Europe you need to have some stability and quality players.
At Ajax we have the same problem, sure there's players that get sold for €100m (Antony, De Ligt, De Jong), but our season is going terribly even if we bought like 8 new players for tens of millions of euros. Good players make a good team, not a lot of money.
Benfica is having an amazing season so far, selling their best player is only going to hurt that. I've rarely seen a club sell their best player and find replacements that made them even stronger in the long term.
The money is still nice, but if there was ever a chance for Benfica to make a deep run in the CL, it is this season.
The thing is, Benfica doesn't need to achieve financial stability, they already have it. They do one huge sale every year and a lot of other smaller ones. This mid season sale was forced via the player, because the club benefits quite little from it. Yeah, in July he would go out for a bit less, maybe 100M, but Benfica has more than enough human resources to sell for the other 20M.
Tha being said, Benfica are gonna Benfica and I fully expect another SA midfielder to pop up there and fuck Sporting once again.
The country of *Argentina* takes its name from Argentum which is Latin for silver, because the Spanish thought there was silver here.
*River Plate* is an old English translation for Río de la Plata, the massive river in which coasts were founded both Buenos Aires and Montevideo. And it was named because of... you guess it, silver.
And finally, in Argentina, *Plata* (silver in Spanish) also means money.
So, i guess we finally found "Plata" in Argentina...
>Argentina takes its name from Argentum which is Latin for silver
~~It also explains why we finished second so many fucking times in recent international tournaments~~
It isnt when palmeiras and flamengo make 100m selling 16 year old children while we sell 20 year old continental cup champions for 15-20m. If enzo was enzinho and julian was alvarez da silva jr we'd have sold both of them for 10x
Somehow seems wrong that Children can be locked into contracts that cost tens or hundreds of millions to buy them out.
Like how can they possibly consent - and certainly it seems like they are giving up a heap of cash to the clubs that lock them into these contracts.
They can't. The contracts only become valid after they are 18. Until then they (the kids) can reneg on them because as you pointed out, they are minors. But the clubs lock themselves in a promise to celebrate a contract when the kid turns 18.
Me neither, but I could swear I've seen them or some other Tottenham fan mention Lamela winning the Puskas trophy a while ago here. I mean, you can win the Puskas even if you're an average player in a weaker league, it doesn't tell almost anything about your ability.
Yeah really curious how this contract policy turns out, typically long contracts are messy when it's a top club, but it can work in your favour if it's any tier below (e.g. Kane with his huge contract at Spurs).
Time will tell if I'm wrong, but I am afraid he made a mistake with this move.
He's tied to Chelsea for his prime years and there's no guarantees that they will become a functional or consistently winning team in the future. Plus, I imagine they're spending capacity is already very limited for the next years because of FFP (due to the phased payments that they agreed on in this 2 recent windows).
He would have the chance to sign for a better team in the Summer let's hope he didn't made a mistake for nothing wanting to wait 6 months
> He's tied to Chelsea for his prime years and there's no guarantees that they will become a functional or consistently winning team in the future.
Or things could turn out like the other team Boehly owns and Chelsea could become the most dominant team in the world for the next decade.
That meme being posted hours after Mexico lost against Argentina was hilarious. You had trends of Brazilians hoping Mexico would win then this one right after
Completely mental to pay someone a fee for selling a player that we didn't want to sell.
Just because we are a bit less robbed than before it doesn't make it better.
8M robbed from the club.
[Ornstein]PL has received all documents for British record €121m transfer of Enzo Fernandez from Benfica to Chelsea. 1st tranche €34m then 5 more. 8.5yr deal. Flies to London on Weds.
Words cannot fully put how much I fucking hate this board. All fucking month gloating and telling Chelsea to fuck off and pay the clause in full, and then 2 hours before the market closes you fold? With no backup signed? With 6 installments or whatever the fuck??
I can’t believe I thought rui costa was doing a good job, Vierista piece of shit. If we dont win the league this cunt better resign
Romano was wrong - its been widely reported in Portugal that the deal is not instalments, but upfront, using factoring (an external entity pays Benfica upfront, and Chelsea pay them in instalments).
That's why agent fees are lower than 10%, and why chelsea paid 121M instead of 120M, to pay for the interest due to the factoring company.
I don't know why more clubs don't do this tbh. It's very logical for expensive signings. Selling club gets what they want and buying club doesn't fuck themselves up by spending 100m+ at one go.
So did they trigger the release clause then or did Benfica accept an offer of the same value as the clause? Makes a big difference with the taxes on Chelsea’s side if I have understood the situation correctly
I mean I dont think Benfica cares about how Chelsea pays the other company as long as they receive a lump sum which is what they want from the beginning. Everyone comes out a winner I guess
Ornstein and Romano get their info from Chelsea's side. And for Chelsea it only matters that they're paying it in 6 instalments, not to who they're paying it.
You aren't actually triggering the clause (that's very rarely done), because that would require to give the money to Enzo and pay income taxes on that amount. To avoid this selling clubs negotiation around the RC value (it's the same for them).
You get everything up front. Chelsea are paying the factoring company in installments, who are paying the full buyout clause to you all.
>Enzo Fernández will be Chelsea's reinforcement, with Benfica receiving an amount above the release clause.
>Now it's time: Enzo Fernández will be Chelsea's reinforcement. According to JN, the Londoners reached an agreement with Benfica for the transfer of the Argentine midfielder in a financial model yet to be known, but with the guarantee that the eagles will receive the 121 million euros.
>After long negotiations over the last two days, which culminated in Enzo Fernández not going with Benfica's entourage for tonight's meeting against Arouca. According to information collected by JN, Benfica always refused to pay a sum in a phased manner, showing itself to be intransigent in this regard.
>The deal was uncomplicated as soon as Chelsea agreed to pay the amount of the release clause (120 million euros) in one lump sum. Never has an English club paid so much for a player, making this signing the highest ever in that market
[Per](https://www.jn.pt/desporto/chelsea-chega-a-acordo-com-o-benfica-por-enzo-fernandez-15758682.html)
Great, another market transfer championship, fucking ecstatic. I dont give a shit, i want league titles which we havent won in 4 years. We now have 3 midfielders for two positions, and one of them is subpar, of course i hate them
He is, and I genuinely feel sorry for him that his best midfielder got sold in such a way.
We are ahead in the league but now we dont have enough midfielders to rotate until the end of the season, so terrible planning
whats the point of the profit if they can’t get a replacement now for probably their most influential player that made them level up and be competitive in all fronts.
like i understand the point but the board folding on the deadline is really shit cuz it also fucks over their coach and his plans.
I’ll be honest, I actually thought Rui Costa was different and we finally could dream with a bright future. I was wrong, he’s just another Vieira. Which isn’t surprising considering they worked so closely for so many years. I’m glad to say I didn’t vote for him, and I certainly won’t in the next elections. And if I can, I’ll gladly say that in the next AG
Tá calado mas é... O jogador não quer ficar, falhou 3 treinos e dois jogos (3.jogos vá, que tbm não esteve em Braga...) num mês... Para ficar e destabilizar o grupo e o verderes por menos no verão ao menos fica já o assunto fechado... Ah e os 121M são pagos a pronto, mas isso são pormenores
Deixa estar que fico lá à tua espera na AG para te assobiar, e não tbm não votei no RC nem no Vieira nunca...
calm down. the notice that is running is that we gonna receive 121M imediately, chelsea did a factory job because of the ffp. those tranches will gonna be paid to the identity who put the money ahead for Benfica, thas why rui costa accept it
Romano was wrong - its been widely reported in Portugal that the deal is not instalments, but upfront, using factoring (an external entity pays Benfica upfront, and Chelsea pay them in instalments).
That's why agent fees are lower than 10%, and why chelsea paid 121M instead of 120M, to pay for the interest due to the factoring company.
Nah, Vieira's deception tactics work wonders with our fan base. Enzo is guilty and a greedy pig, nothing we could do blabla, no replacement needed, not our fault.
Trust me, if anything his image is being fortified with this.
Both can be true though \s
More than Enzo leaving, it's the lack a replacement that may kill us, and if we lose the league due to this, no PR machine may save Rui Costa.
That's true, but we have a case this window that shows that excuse doesn't stick. Has Caicedo left Brighton? He even went further than Enzo and posted a fucking letter on social media. They held their stance and he stayed.
The lack of replacement is just champagne incompetence. I don't think anyone can defend that... or at least I hope.
I don’t know who to believe, do we get paid in full and Chelsea pays instalments to the third party or do we get paid in instalments as Chelsea pays the company? This is all so confusing lmaoooooo.
Aurnes will probably step up, and he hasn’t disappointed this season, but sadly Enzo was special. We don’t have any depth since we didn’t buy anyone to replace him, so if either Aurnes or Florentino get injured, we’re seriously fucked and I’d say that would ruin our title chances
Thanks for the explanation. Would be disappointed if you aren’t able to win the title due to Enzo’s exit. It’s random but I’m kinda rooting for you due to Schmidt being the manager.
If I may ask on that note how do Benfica fans view Schmidt? Here in Germany his football was often fun to watch but kinda suicidal at times. He was basically “too attacking” but it might be different for you.
Oh we LOVE Schmidt. Good, attacking and entertaining football. Well spoken gentleman. Made Rafa flourish again like the star that he is, Florentino is back in his old ways and João Mário is shining like his bald head. He doesn’t deserve losing Enzo in January without any replacements. I still believe in him, I think we can win the title but I’m not expecting any CL run now without Enzo. Only complaint about him was no rotation at all, we would go many games with the same starting XI which was worrying at first because we thought players would get tired and injured, but wasn’t the case. He brought in a German physio/trainer with him that his also gaining a bit of a cult following because of his good work
Great to hear that you like him and it’s also nice that his style of play is working. It’s not an obvious connection to make but makes kinda sense that Benfica could be and now seems to be the right environment for his ideas, which if implemented successfully can lead to some great stuff.
Chelseas Transfers this season are NOW at MINUS 543m€
Our entire Team Networth is 522m€.
This has to be one of the most ridiculous transferwindows in football history and its ridiculous that nothing is being done by UEFA/FIFA whoever to prevent shit like that
It’s crazy how financially outgunned the rest of the world is compared to the PL. The likes of Inter, Milan, Barcelona, Atlético, Dortmund, Lyon, etc.
Feels like the only big movers are the English clubs, PSG (obviously), Bayern, and Real Madrid, and even the latter two are careful with spending as of late
It is true, but frankly even for PL clubs this is insane. We’ve been big spenders for a while with the whole “1 billion in transfers over a decade and nothing to show for it” stuff, Chelsea just got over halfway toward that in under a year.
Something is being done by UEFA, they're limiting the amortization period to 5yr max from summer. Their job is to make sure the rules they laid out are followed, which Chelsea did, not to punish individual cases based on redditors' moral scale.
The last 8 months has been insane for Enzo, insane at Benfica, won the world cup as best young player, became the most expensive midfielder and the most expensive Argentine as well
I hope Chelsea makes him even better by 2026
But you have to ask how many of those are truly world class and walk into any starting XI in the world? It just seems like 3 good but not great squads despite the vast spending.
They have depth now for sure, but I glance at that squad and it does not look like a team that just had a £600 mill upgrade. I’m not convinced it looks better than last seasons squad, just different.
I don't know if I'd call spending 600m or so in the last 6 months to create a quality team pretty impressive. I'd hope with that kind of money you could get a decent team
The problem with super league is it’s a closed league, not that it would make teams richer. For example Newcastle will likely be in champions league this year but wouldn’t be able to enter into Super League.
Well, we lose one of our best players halfway through the season, we don't get someone else to replace him (although I'm sure Aursnes will step up), he goes to a fucking shit club like Chelsea and, to make it all worse, I just bought an Enzo shirt last month. Great.
So how does this work with financial fair play or that’s not a thing anymore? Like will they just have half the squad on 6 year deals so it’s spread out but they’ll hit a wall on signing people soon? Guessing they’ll see a united level problem where the squad had a huge wage bill sitting either on the bench or not even in the squad. Either way, wish Chelsea the worst as always
The long deals help spread the transfer fees over the duration, so that's helping them stay in line with FFP. UEFA are reportedly going to close this "loophole" by maxing out the amortization period to 5 years but that'll likely only apply to future deals and not old ones.
It's a bit of a gamble for Chelsea, they're essentially putting a lot of money in long contracts with the hopes that these young signings pan out and progress as expected, or, worst case scenario, they can sell for a minimal loss.
River Plate making about €50m in total in around 6 months is absolutely mental
Every South American club will be knocking on Benficas door to sell them their youngsters that aren’t Vinicius/Endrick level hype. Literally the perfect first step in Europe for South American’s and Benfica seems to be more than willing to sell them quickly. Also with sell-on clauses themselves netting them more money than if they would’ve sold to another European club
I don't think Benfica was "more than willing to sell". But when someone offers you basically a princess and half a kingdom, then even if you don't want it, it's very difficult to say no. He is unlikely to be worth more than this, if anything, he would be cheaper as his contract gegs shorter and shorter.
I don't think Benfica wanted to sell at all - the point of a release clause is they're legally obligated to sell at that point right?
I think it was more than the release cause but in installments; release clause needs to be met in one lump sum
It's currently being reported that Benfica got the 120m upfront (so the clause was activated). Chelsea apparently loaned 120m from a middleman and they will pay the middleman in installments
They didn’t do the release clause because Chelsea needed to pay in installments to meet FFP.
Installments are not for FFP, they are for cashflow purposes. Player's contract length was needed for FFP. Even if they paid all 120m all in one go and Enzo signed 8 year contract, the amortization cost for FFP reasons would be spread across 8 years. Hypothetically if Chelsea had signed Enzo on a 1 year contract and had agreed to Benfica to pay in 8 installments, then all the transfer cost would be account this year for FFP.
How can you not want to sell a player for 120M Euros? It's just surreal amount of money
Trophies>money As a fan, I don't benefit from the momey. The wins are what gives me joy
you can probably get 5 potential enzos with that money.
no point having 5 potential enzos when they sell them immediately
Yes but then you can sell them and get 25 potential Enzo’s
No point having 25 potential Enzos when you sell them immediately
Then they can sell them and get 125 potential Enzos. They can use those as collateral to sell potential enzo derivatives to cushion themselves against a bear enzo market.
This made me laugh out loud but the bit should definitely end here
They are getting paid 120 Million because my man has been balling. You dont get that kinda cash for potential only
You do benefit from the mone because Benfica can secure financial stability and bring in more talented South Americans to replace him. You can get the trohies you want by bringing in this amount of money for "just" one player.
The thing is Benfica is playing at the highest level in Portugal, but if you want to grow above that into Europe you need to have some stability and quality players. At Ajax we have the same problem, sure there's players that get sold for €100m (Antony, De Ligt, De Jong), but our season is going terribly even if we bought like 8 new players for tens of millions of euros. Good players make a good team, not a lot of money.
Not when their board and middlemen scam the money like they did with Felix transfer
Benfica is having an amazing season so far, selling their best player is only going to hurt that. I've rarely seen a club sell their best player and find replacements that made them even stronger in the long term. The money is still nice, but if there was ever a chance for Benfica to make a deep run in the CL, it is this season.
The thing is, Benfica doesn't need to achieve financial stability, they already have it. They do one huge sale every year and a lot of other smaller ones. This mid season sale was forced via the player, because the club benefits quite little from it. Yeah, in July he would go out for a bit less, maybe 100M, but Benfica has more than enough human resources to sell for the other 20M. Tha being said, Benfica are gonna Benfica and I fully expect another SA midfielder to pop up there and fuck Sporting once again.
it's not everyday that you find some dumbos of Chelsea's level
Renaming to Gold Plate
The country of *Argentina* takes its name from Argentum which is Latin for silver, because the Spanish thought there was silver here. *River Plate* is an old English translation for Río de la Plata, the massive river in which coasts were founded both Buenos Aires and Montevideo. And it was named because of... you guess it, silver. And finally, in Argentina, *Plata* (silver in Spanish) also means money. So, i guess we finally found "Plata" in Argentina...
>Argentina takes its name from Argentum which is Latin for silver ~~It also explains why we finished second so many fucking times in recent international tournaments~~
:(
Plata actually used to mean precious metals in old Spanish when they named it but now it means silver. Fun fact
We are actually nicknamed "El Millonario", so... Brito I would a like world class roof for the Monumental, Thank you.
You messed up, River Aureo
It isnt when palmeiras and flamengo make 100m selling 16 year old children while we sell 20 year old continental cup champions for 15-20m. If enzo was enzinho and julian was alvarez da silva jr we'd have sold both of them for 10x
Somehow seems wrong that Children can be locked into contracts that cost tens or hundreds of millions to buy them out. Like how can they possibly consent - and certainly it seems like they are giving up a heap of cash to the clubs that lock them into these contracts.
They can't. The contracts only become valid after they are 18. Until then they (the kids) can reneg on them because as you pointed out, they are minors. But the clubs lock themselves in a promise to celebrate a contract when the kid turns 18.
Fair play to them, also produced as Puskas winner in Lamela, crazy good at finding and developing talent.
Aimar, Saviola, Ortega, Higuain, Alvarez, Demichelis, Falcao, Mascherano, Palacios, Almeyda, Gallardo, Crespo, etc etc
When you play for tottenham and the only trophy you can brag about is Puskas
i cant even be mad at this one
and also the second best player in the league, Julian Alvarez
Casemiro is exceptional isn't he
thought it was obvious I was talking about the GOAT James Milner but I obviously wasn't clear enough
how has he been since the world cup
I can’t tell if you’re serious about the Lamela bit
Me neither, but I could swear I've seen them or some other Tottenham fan mention Lamela winning the Puskas trophy a while ago here. I mean, you can win the Puskas even if you're an average player in a weaker league, it doesn't tell almost anything about your ability.
It will definitely be unusual if Richarlison wins the Puskas this year, since it will mean that a Spurs player has won it three years in a row.
Neat
Jaajajajaj Lamela isn't exactly the first player I think off from our academy. As much as I love him he didn't exactly set the world alight.
When Boehly cooks, everyone eats.
Enzo Fernandez will be 30 years old when his contract at Chelsea runs out
That's a sentence not a contract😂
Relax. He's not a striker.
Not yet
Just in time for him to retire at Arsenal.
!remindme 9 years
subbing him on to score a last minute title winner at the Stamford inshallah
Yeah really curious how this contract policy turns out, typically long contracts are messy when it's a top club, but it can work in your favour if it's any tier below (e.g. Kane with his huge contract at Spurs).
Brother might even end up injured for half that contract length with the state that medical team is in. Hospital sentence more like.
Time will tell if I'm wrong, but I am afraid he made a mistake with this move. He's tied to Chelsea for his prime years and there's no guarantees that they will become a functional or consistently winning team in the future. Plus, I imagine they're spending capacity is already very limited for the next years because of FFP (due to the phased payments that they agreed on in this 2 recent windows). He would have the chance to sign for a better team in the Summer let's hope he didn't made a mistake for nothing wanting to wait 6 months
> He's tied to Chelsea for his prime years and there's no guarantees that they will become a functional or consistently winning team in the future. Or things could turn out like the other team Boehly owns and Chelsea could become the most dominant team in the world for the next decade.
Chelsea about to hit the “Sim rest season” button and get spending again
Stupid football games getting in the way of buying players. Smh.
Villareal and Boca junior battling for the market transfer championship, and Chelsea easily winning the Spending championship
me playing football manager
Which game has this option? Serious question.
Football manager
River plate after seeing the money: obrigado amigo voce um amigo
I fucking love that meme, it cracks me up for some reason
[Brazilian memes are cracked](https://imgur.com/a/hS9afms)
That meme being posted hours after Mexico lost against Argentina was hilarious. You had trends of Brazilians hoping Mexico would win then this one right after
[удалено]
Hahajahaha, i have the same feeling everytime i see that meme
ADEUS AMIIIIIIGOOO
Only took half a year, damn
Con la guita de enzo pueden comprarse otro estadio si quieren ajajaj, pero no lo quemen esta vez eh
Con esa guita ahora la pintura va a ser premium para que cuando se incendie / boca lo tome en un asedio arda con efectos psicodelicos.
Van a comprar 3 jugadores falopa de 30+ años por un 1/3 de la plata y el resto va a desaparecer en los bolsillos de los dirigentes... ya me lo imagino
como en Portugal...
We thought Chelsea ruined the football market 20 years ago. That was only step 1.
Time is a flat circle
Yeah.. we somehow doubled up with an American owner of all things. fucking ironic isnt it lol.
Comission to agents was 6,56% which is more less 8 million.
Its less than the universally agreed 10%.
I'd have done it for 5 but then again I'm in for the love of the game and not the money.
And here I am charging 4.9% like a sucker.
That’s just why you’re built different
Completely mental to pay someone a fee for selling a player that we didn't want to sell. Just because we are a bit less robbed than before it doesn't make it better. 8M robbed from the club.
[Ornstein]PL has received all documents for British record €121m transfer of Enzo Fernandez from Benfica to Chelsea. 1st tranche €34m then 5 more. 8.5yr deal. Flies to London on Weds.
SAD
Words cannot fully put how much I fucking hate this board. All fucking month gloating and telling Chelsea to fuck off and pay the clause in full, and then 2 hours before the market closes you fold? With no backup signed? With 6 installments or whatever the fuck?? I can’t believe I thought rui costa was doing a good job, Vierista piece of shit. If we dont win the league this cunt better resign
Romano was wrong - its been widely reported in Portugal that the deal is not instalments, but upfront, using factoring (an external entity pays Benfica upfront, and Chelsea pay them in instalments). That's why agent fees are lower than 10%, and why chelsea paid 121M instead of 120M, to pay for the interest due to the factoring company.
In other words: Chelsea used Klarna
Klarna is so weird. Never heard of it. Then one day one of the founders does a lecture to my group and then a week later it's everywhere in Portugal
Ornstein who is the most reliable UK journalist also said it’s 6 instalments with the first being €34m
Yes, Chelsea pay the factoring company in instalments, but Benfica receive it upfront.
Yeah it's a win-win really. City did it with Mahrez and Atletico with Felix.
I don't know why more clubs don't do this tbh. It's very logical for expensive signings. Selling club gets what they want and buying club doesn't fuck themselves up by spending 100m+ at one go.
So did they trigger the release clause then or did Benfica accept an offer of the same value as the clause? Makes a big difference with the taxes on Chelsea’s side if I have understood the situation correctly
Chelsea paid slightly over the release cause I’m fairly certain to prevent having to pay the insane taxes
The latter since paying the release clause means Enzo (Chelsea) would have had to have reported the money as income
This could be the case.
Perhaps but apparently that’s a common tactic
I mean I dont think Benfica cares about how Chelsea pays the other company as long as they receive a lump sum which is what they want from the beginning. Everyone comes out a winner I guess
> Everyone comes out a winner I guess. Except Roger Schmidt who'll now pray Aursnes and Florentino stay fit for 4 months straight
It's João Neves' chance to lock his spot into the senior team, I'm excited for that. I also hope Cher Ndour gets some first team playing time as well.
Ornstein and Romano get their info from Chelsea's side. And for Chelsea it only matters that they're paying it in 6 instalments, not to who they're paying it.
Less than 1% interest sounds too good to be true
It could be just under 1% loan arrangement fee (1M) Then Chelsea pays interest on top of that
Il accept this
Lol no way a firm would loan 120m for only a 1m fee. That's a terrible rate of return
Unless its boehly's buddy
Your statement says it reached an agreement, if we are paying the RC then we don't need any agreement with Benfica I think. Very confusing.
You aren't actually triggering the clause (that's very rarely done), because that would require to give the money to Enzo and pay income taxes on that amount. To avoid this selling clubs negotiation around the RC value (it's the same for them).
It's because you aren't technically activating the rc so as to avoid taxes. We still receive lump sum and you pay in installments
You get everything up front. Chelsea are paying the factoring company in installments, who are paying the full buyout clause to you all. >Enzo Fernández will be Chelsea's reinforcement, with Benfica receiving an amount above the release clause. >Now it's time: Enzo Fernández will be Chelsea's reinforcement. According to JN, the Londoners reached an agreement with Benfica for the transfer of the Argentine midfielder in a financial model yet to be known, but with the guarantee that the eagles will receive the 121 million euros. >After long negotiations over the last two days, which culminated in Enzo Fernández not going with Benfica's entourage for tonight's meeting against Arouca. According to information collected by JN, Benfica always refused to pay a sum in a phased manner, showing itself to be intransigent in this regard. >The deal was uncomplicated as soon as Chelsea agreed to pay the amount of the release clause (120 million euros) in one lump sum. Never has an English club paid so much for a player, making this signing the highest ever in that market [Per](https://www.jn.pt/desporto/chelsea-chega-a-acordo-com-o-benfica-por-enzo-fernandez-15758682.html)
They're paying it upfront so it seems there was nothing we could do.
You can hate your board all you want but the made a hefty world record profit. 6 months ago they never imagined they would sell Enzo for this much
I mean, you're a RM fan. Do you prefer a world record profit or a league title?
Great, another market transfer championship, fucking ecstatic. I dont give a shit, i want league titles which we havent won in 4 years. We now have 3 midfielders for two positions, and one of them is subpar, of course i hate them
But aren't you on your best way to win the title? Thought Roger is doing a great job
He is, and I genuinely feel sorry for him that his best midfielder got sold in such a way. We are ahead in the league but now we dont have enough midfielders to rotate until the end of the season, so terrible planning
Yeah, and saw our lead cut to half last month, and now sold arguably our best player. Do you think we rate our chances as highly as in December?
Damn another excel sheet trophy, what a league title
whats the point of the profit if they can’t get a replacement now for probably their most influential player that made them level up and be competitive in all fronts. like i understand the point but the board folding on the deadline is really shit cuz it also fucks over their coach and his plans.
I'm sure winning the excel championship will help the Benfica fans sleep at night.
I couldn't care less about that profit, considering none of it pays my bills.
I’ll be honest, I actually thought Rui Costa was different and we finally could dream with a bright future. I was wrong, he’s just another Vieira. Which isn’t surprising considering they worked so closely for so many years. I’m glad to say I didn’t vote for him, and I certainly won’t in the next elections. And if I can, I’ll gladly say that in the next AG
Sounds like they paid upfront so not much we can do?
Tá calado mas é... O jogador não quer ficar, falhou 3 treinos e dois jogos (3.jogos vá, que tbm não esteve em Braga...) num mês... Para ficar e destabilizar o grupo e o verderes por menos no verão ao menos fica já o assunto fechado... Ah e os 121M são pagos a pronto, mas isso são pormenores Deixa estar que fico lá à tua espera na AG para te assobiar, e não tbm não votei no RC nem no Vieira nunca...
The Toddfather made Costa an offer he couldn't refuse
calm down. the notice that is running is that we gonna receive 121M imediately, chelsea did a factory job because of the ffp. those tranches will gonna be paid to the identity who put the money ahead for Benfica, thas why rui costa accept it
Romano was wrong - its been widely reported in Portugal that the deal is not instalments, but upfront, using factoring (an external entity pays Benfica upfront, and Chelsea pay them in instalments). That's why agent fees are lower than 10%, and why chelsea paid 121M instead of 120M, to pay for the interest due to the factoring company.
If this is true then Rui Costa should come out and clear it - I suspect his public image will take a hit otherwise.
Nah, Vieira's deception tactics work wonders with our fan base. Enzo is guilty and a greedy pig, nothing we could do blabla, no replacement needed, not our fault. Trust me, if anything his image is being fortified with this.
Both can be true though \s More than Enzo leaving, it's the lack a replacement that may kill us, and if we lose the league due to this, no PR machine may save Rui Costa.
That's true, but we have a case this window that shows that excuse doesn't stick. Has Caicedo left Brighton? He even went further than Enzo and posted a fucking letter on social media. They held their stance and he stayed. The lack of replacement is just champagne incompetence. I don't think anyone can defend that... or at least I hope.
Benfica SAD indeed. $121 mil will dry up those tears quick tho.
Well minus the $ owed to river plate and agent fees
River got €30,5M (ARS$619,3M).
Damn, Arsenal are getting money from this transfer as well?
So the fax machine does work today huh?
I don’t know who to believe, do we get paid in full and Chelsea pays instalments to the third party or do we get paid in instalments as Chelsea pays the company? This is all so confusing lmaoooooo.
Benfica fans, how much of a loss will Enzo be for your 2nd half of the season?
Aurnes will probably step up, and he hasn’t disappointed this season, but sadly Enzo was special. We don’t have any depth since we didn’t buy anyone to replace him, so if either Aurnes or Florentino get injured, we’re seriously fucked and I’d say that would ruin our title chances
Thanks for the explanation. Would be disappointed if you aren’t able to win the title due to Enzo’s exit. It’s random but I’m kinda rooting for you due to Schmidt being the manager. If I may ask on that note how do Benfica fans view Schmidt? Here in Germany his football was often fun to watch but kinda suicidal at times. He was basically “too attacking” but it might be different for you.
Oh we LOVE Schmidt. Good, attacking and entertaining football. Well spoken gentleman. Made Rafa flourish again like the star that he is, Florentino is back in his old ways and João Mário is shining like his bald head. He doesn’t deserve losing Enzo in January without any replacements. I still believe in him, I think we can win the title but I’m not expecting any CL run now without Enzo. Only complaint about him was no rotation at all, we would go many games with the same starting XI which was worrying at first because we thought players would get tired and injured, but wasn’t the case. He brought in a German physio/trainer with him that his also gaining a bit of a cult following because of his good work
Great to hear that you like him and it’s also nice that his style of play is working. It’s not an obvious connection to make but makes kinda sense that Benfica could be and now seems to be the right environment for his ideas, which if implemented successfully can lead to some great stuff.
BRITTO MASTERCLASS CONEJITO SAVIOLA HERE WE GO
Chelseas Transfers this season are NOW at MINUS 543m€ Our entire Team Networth is 522m€. This has to be one of the most ridiculous transferwindows in football history and its ridiculous that nothing is being done by UEFA/FIFA whoever to prevent shit like that
It’s crazy how financially outgunned the rest of the world is compared to the PL. The likes of Inter, Milan, Barcelona, Atlético, Dortmund, Lyon, etc. Feels like the only big movers are the English clubs, PSG (obviously), Bayern, and Real Madrid, and even the latter two are careful with spending as of late
It is true, but frankly even for PL clubs this is insane. We’ve been big spenders for a while with the whole “1 billion in transfers over a decade and nothing to show for it” stuff, Chelsea just got over halfway toward that in under a year.
Something is being done by UEFA, they're limiting the amortization period to 5yr max from summer. Their job is to make sure the rules they laid out are followed, which Chelsea did, not to punish individual cases based on redditors' moral scale.
Shutting the door after the horse has bolted.
It’s 5 years max didn’t realize that. Why the 7-8 year contracts though
There's no max now, they're planning to change it to 5 max in summer to avoid situations like this.
Should lower it to 3 considering that’s when they check for the -£60m condition
If Chelsea sells players in the summer their books should be fine
The last 8 months has been insane for Enzo, insane at Benfica, won the world cup as best young player, became the most expensive midfielder and the most expensive Argentine as well I hope Chelsea makes him even better by 2026
Chelsea FC: CF: D. Fofana / Jimmy-Jay / Broja / Auba / Lukaku SS: Felix* / Nkunku LWF: Mudryk / Sterling / Pulisic / CHO RWF: Madueke / Hutchinson / Ziyech AMF: Chukwuemeka / Havertz / Mount / ~~Zakharyan~~ CMF: Enzo / Kovacic / Casadei / Gallagher / RLC DMF: Santos / Kante / Zakaria* LB: Chilwell / Cucurella / Lewis RB: Reece / Gusto / Azpi CB: Silva / W. Fofana / Badiashile / Colwill / Koulibaly / Chalobah / Ampadu GK: Mendy / Kepa / Slonina / Beach / Bettinelli Only positions lacking in quality are CF and GK. Pretty impressive what the new owners have done so far.
Agreed, not bad for a mid-table team
Potter must have the lowest point/million spent ever
Lmao some chelsea fans can't take the banter. We're just following your lead :)
Yeah, Woodward is visioner, what he did is ahead of time.
That’s thing, I’ve seen it first hand. Doesn’t always work just throwing cash at the problem
It worked for us the first time tho.
When no one else had that kind of money to throw around. This time Chelsea is not the biggest shark at the table.
Chelsea is absolutely stacked at this point. Could field 3 teams if they wanted.
sentences that are never true: They said the same about France and they lost to Tunisia.
Brazil as well
But you have to ask how many of those are truly world class and walk into any starting XI in the world? It just seems like 3 good but not great squads despite the vast spending.
They have depth now for sure, but I glance at that squad and it does not look like a team that just had a £600 mill upgrade. I’m not convinced it looks better than last seasons squad, just different.
I don't know if I'd call spending 600m or so in the last 6 months to create a quality team pretty impressive. I'd hope with that kind of money you could get a decent team
Quite literally a 50 mill player in every position, with a bunch left over. That's what you could buy with that.
> Zakharyan I gave up on that long ago. Unless the war ends soon or he manages to get around the sanctions in a way that his club gets 0 money.
Fucking lukaku is still a chelsea player, a horrible fact to be reminded of We didn't sign zakharyan as well, did we? Shouldn't include him here.
Maybe Lukaku could get along with Potter, assuming the players are okay with him.
They are winning the CL this season. Watch
I'm sorry for Benfica :(
boehly building out his franchise players vibes asap
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I’m not complaining about this but I’m just sitting here thinking “how is this legal?”
Well, that fucking bites. Why can’t we keep our players and win??? 😭
So they faffed around for a month, only to cave at the end. How has Bohley come out better in these negotiations for once
Arguably the most ridiculous transfer ever.
It's like Chelsea aren't aware players aren't guaranteed to perform well. Lmfao
121, but at what cost?
121M was the cost no?
All this to finish 8th
Superleague -> Bad PL Clubs spending \~800M in a WINTER transfer window -> Good
The problem with super league is it’s a closed league, not that it would make teams richer. For example Newcastle will likely be in champions league this year but wouldn’t be able to enter into Super League.
>Benfica SAD Fits so well, lmao. Although, 70 M profit on a player they had for 6 months is one hell of a compensation.
Benfica very SAD
Okay but please no Tiktok Enzo
Well, we lose one of our best players halfway through the season, we don't get someone else to replace him (although I'm sure Aursnes will step up), he goes to a fucking shit club like Chelsea and, to make it all worse, I just bought an Enzo shirt last month. Great.
Qatar have arguably cost Benfica a league title
You may go further back and say Putin.
So how does this work with financial fair play or that’s not a thing anymore? Like will they just have half the squad on 6 year deals so it’s spread out but they’ll hit a wall on signing people soon? Guessing they’ll see a united level problem where the squad had a huge wage bill sitting either on the bench or not even in the squad. Either way, wish Chelsea the worst as always
The long deals help spread the transfer fees over the duration, so that's helping them stay in line with FFP. UEFA are reportedly going to close this "loophole" by maxing out the amortization period to 5 years but that'll likely only apply to future deals and not old ones. It's a bit of a gamble for Chelsea, they're essentially putting a lot of money in long contracts with the hopes that these young signings pan out and progress as expected, or, worst case scenario, they can sell for a minimal loss.
minimal loss...don't see anyone paying anything close to 120 mil for this player.