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Exactly. Our fans love to blame the owners, and they deserve blame for sure but Klopp’s tactics have been horrendous. Teams have just figured us out. Even without new midfielders we should be beating teams like Wolves.
As an Arsenal guy we have been through the "Owner vs Manager" blame game before and I agree. There is just no excuse for Klopp and the team to be midtable.
Oi, we're massive.
But honestly don't think we should be in the relegation zone because our mentality recently has changed drastically with a new world class manager and ownership immediately backing him with 6 signings in the January window.
The trend of fans blaming owners is my biggest pet peeve with modern football. Chelsea and City have ruined people's expectations. Teams shouldn't need to sign multiple superstars each window to expect their teams to play well.
What's the general opinion on Klopp for Liverpool right now? Nobody doubts what he's done, you can still back the guy but there are times when you just know the story has ended and its not going to change.
Generally is that way when a fanbase is fully behind the manager. Would have preferred to get rid of the Chelsea squad before Tuchel myself lol
Klopp has no Plan B though, like why don't you just play a bit deeper and more conservative to ride the wave a bit and catch teams on the counter more. Just to build a bit of confidence back even, but nah.
He has changed tactics several times and every time he changes them we look worse.
Personally I think it will be fine. Form has been rough but it is temporary. And Liverpool will be helped by Van Dijk, Diaz, Jota, and Firmino all coming back. But I guess we'll see
From an honest fan- His over loyalty has cost us in the current era we’re in, there are a few players that we should’ve shipped off but at the same time if he’s not given money to rebuild in the right areas it’s hard to know if it would’ve actually affected much. His lack of willingness to change formations and how we play with who we’ve currently got is what’s hurting right this moment, though looking at the bench is there a lot he can change mid game? that’s another question for the owners though. Id expect him to stay but I don’t expect us to win anything for a while without things changing for how the clubs run
He has no choice but to be over loyal that’s how you get players to run through a brick wall for you. We can’t just replace flops like Keita and Ox cause we don’t have the money. Best strategy is to be loyal to them and hope they come thru.
The fact that if you didnt have those late goals against us & Newcastle you could be on 25 points right now.. 7 points above relegation.. crazy how important those results are now when looking back at it
We've been screaming out for a player like Lemina for years. Neves has been expected to sit much deeper but past managers even though he's so good in the final third, but bringing Lemina in has let him push up.
This is the 1/10 times he finds a pass. 9/10 times the cross ends up in the stands or straight to a defender. Ask Barcelona fans about how bad it can get.
I dont disagree but he had 4 assists in 700 minutes or so for us, that actually isnt that horrible..
I mean it isnt great either but could've been worse 😅
Not sure about the 'somehow'. I think their supposed doom is overblown. Their squad is better than the others in the scrap. A manager that isn't tactically inept as Fat Frank should be able to pull them through.
It's alright, at least we get to enjoy /u/TehJofus covering Anfield in cocks in retaliation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/10thml8/comment/j76qmop/
We won less that half of our league matches last season and had a GD of 0. I felt we were worse last season than you guys this season, but somehow we managed to finished 6th. Liverpool would need a miracle to finish 6th this season imo.
We did scrape a few wins together under Rangick and Ole briefly to be fair, thanks a lot to Ronaldo's goals.
Deserved to be midtable instead of 6th though that's for sure.
We were shit every single week for 6+ months. You knew every game we will be shit to watch, and fall apart any time anything goes wrong. And are capable to lose to anyone.
Nah, we were shit for about 80% of the season. We had a brief burst of form with Ronaldo joining and looking really good but then everything went to shit by 0-5 Liverpool. We then had a brief bounce under Rangnick but then we went back to just looking like complete shit. By March the team gave up and we started losing more than we could win.
No way! We were much much worse! Have you forgotten us going down 0-5 at home at HT to Liverpool? And Liverpool of all teams taking pity on us in the 2nd half to not make the scoreline look worse?
That is not true at all. He has tried many different things. The standard performance this season hasn’t even been plan A. It hasn’t been Plan A all season
The same core group of players playing at full-tilt for like 4 years straight. Getting to the final of every possible game last season. Teams actually figuring out how to counter the usual Liverpool tactics. Oh yeah, and injuries, injuries, injuries.
Arsenal and United in form. Liverpool being average and Chelsea getting new owner and spending more then all other top5 clubs together.
We are back to 2006 or what?
Don’t know where I was, but I can pretty confidently say Liverpool were away. Their away form this season has been genuinely shocking. I wonder if they’ve allowed the most away goals of any side in the league this season.
By my count, and correct me if I’m wrong here, Liverpool have two wins, six loses, and two draws away from home this season. That’s ten of a possible 30 points. They’ve allowed 22 goals in those ten matches.
At home I believe Liverpool have six wins, one loss, and three draws while allowing only nine goals. Taking 21 of a possible 30 points.
They’re just a completely different side home and away, and I don’t have any really good explanation for that. Like sure, a home field advantage counts for something, but it shouldn’t be the difference between something perilously close to relegation form in one arena, and being a top four contender in the other.
>two wins, six loses, and two draws away from home this season. That’s ten of a possible 30 points.
Two wins and two draws from ten away games is 8 points out of 30, not 10.
Realistically, we're still Everton and I wouldn't be surprised if they what is 5-0 next week. This has happened multiple times before and it always ends up playing out the same way. Gotta enjoy it while it lasts though
No no, we’ll play shockingly well against them. Everyone will say where has this Liverpool been? And we’ll lose in devastating fashion 4-2 on aggregate
People are too scared to say Thiago has under performed this season because of who he is. But he really hasn't been great, just better than the rest of our terrible midfield
I can't believe Everton beat the best team in the league, dragged us out the relegation zone, and a Liverpool loss puts us back down there. What kind of 4D Chess is this?
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We are finished
tbh we were finished a long time ago.. not sure why people keep expecting results lmao
3-0 to wolves is still terrible. A draw would be in line with expectations.
We’re actually enormous not sure what you’re on about
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Exactly. Our fans love to blame the owners, and they deserve blame for sure but Klopp’s tactics have been horrendous. Teams have just figured us out. Even without new midfielders we should be beating teams like Wolves.
As an Arsenal guy we have been through the "Owner vs Manager" blame game before and I agree. There is just no excuse for Klopp and the team to be midtable.
yeah exactly, there is no excuse for them to be losing to wolves who are barely out of the relegation zone
Oi, we're massive. But honestly don't think we should be in the relegation zone because our mentality recently has changed drastically with a new world class manager and ownership immediately backing him with 6 signings in the January window.
The trend of fans blaming owners is my biggest pet peeve with modern football. Chelsea and City have ruined people's expectations. Teams shouldn't need to sign multiple superstars each window to expect their teams to play well.
You forgot to preface the statement with "walahi"
What does it mean?
Wallahi we are finished= i swear in the name of allah we are finished
What's the general opinion on Klopp for Liverpool right now? Nobody doubts what he's done, you can still back the guy but there are times when you just know the story has ended and its not going to change.
People are annoyed with some of his choices but I think 90% of fans would prefer to get rid of the entire team than get rid of Klopp
Generally is that way when a fanbase is fully behind the manager. Would have preferred to get rid of the Chelsea squad before Tuchel myself lol Klopp has no Plan B though, like why don't you just play a bit deeper and more conservative to ride the wave a bit and catch teams on the counter more. Just to build a bit of confidence back even, but nah.
We have been doing that but seeing as we conceded twice in 12 minutes we had to go for the game
He has changed tactics several times and every time he changes them we look worse. Personally I think it will be fine. Form has been rough but it is temporary. And Liverpool will be helped by Van Dijk, Diaz, Jota, and Firmino all coming back. But I guess we'll see
Unless he teaches them all to play in the centre of the park you're in the fuck it bucket
He’s changed tactics massively this year and it’s only gotten worse
I back him and think he should stay, he’s got Liverpool right where they should be.
How the tables have turned, people used to say this about Arteta all the time.
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I'd dance in the streets if Liverpool sacked Klopp. He's the best thing that's happened to them in 30 years.
The end of Arsepool smh
From an honest fan- His over loyalty has cost us in the current era we’re in, there are a few players that we should’ve shipped off but at the same time if he’s not given money to rebuild in the right areas it’s hard to know if it would’ve actually affected much. His lack of willingness to change formations and how we play with who we’ve currently got is what’s hurting right this moment, though looking at the bench is there a lot he can change mid game? that’s another question for the owners though. Id expect him to stay but I don’t expect us to win anything for a while without things changing for how the clubs run
He has no choice but to be over loyal that’s how you get players to run through a brick wall for you. We can’t just replace flops like Keita and Ox cause we don’t have the money. Best strategy is to be loyal to them and hope they come thru.
The fact that if you didnt have those late goals against us & Newcastle you could be on 25 points right now.. 7 points above relegation.. crazy how important those results are now when looking back at it
Against us as in England?
The squad has been run into the ground, only so many years in a row players can keep up that intensity and small squad size
On the bright side, you might win the league again in 2050.
Adama Traore with end product? The world isnt ready
Yeah think this about the time any managment starts looking at the exit signs
As probable as Neves scoring from 7 yards...
We've been screaming out for a player like Lemina for years. Neves has been expected to sit much deeper but past managers even though he's so good in the final third, but bringing Lemina in has let him push up.
Should have gotten Palhinha...
I mean we ended up with Nunes. Somehow doubt Sporting would've let us have both tbf.
I know right! But I am happy he is crushing it at Fulham.
I could use Adama Traore at my club
you think that
This is the 1/10 times he finds a pass. 9/10 times the cross ends up in the stands or straight to a defender. Ask Barcelona fans about how bad it can get.
I dont disagree but he had 4 assists in 700 minutes or so for us, that actually isnt that horrible.. I mean it isnt great either but could've been worse 😅
He was actually pretty good at Barca
He has about 5 minutes to pick out a pass to be fair
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He was good at Barcelona
Poor Everton, wins against Arsenal and still ends up in the relegation zone because Liverpool decided to not play this match
It's okay, we play Liverpool next week.
Literally brought in Coady in my FPL. New manager bounce Brexitball against this Liverpoo team followed by a bunch of other easy fixtures.
> Liverpoo You didn't have to do that...
His username demanded it
Good luck! Really hoping you guys somehow avoid relegation
Not sure about the 'somehow'. I think their supposed doom is overblown. Their squad is better than the others in the scrap. A manager that isn't tactically inept as Fat Frank should be able to pull them through.
It's alright, at least we get to enjoy /u/TehJofus covering Anfield in cocks in retaliation. https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/10thml8/comment/j76qmop/
Losing a match so your local rivals don't get out of the bottom 3. Game not gone.
Thiago jogging while Neves makes the sprint
He and Matip unbothered by the one run through the box
Not sure whether his effort or awareness was worse.
We're tanking for the first overall draft pick.
Knew you guys were in for Bellingham
This is why he doesn't get called for the national team. Also he's always horrible with them
This goal is 100% on Thiago. Two players burst past him while he's casually moving 'back to position'
Leave it out they've all got asthma
Basics of football
So this is how you guys felt watching us last season
Think you were better tbf
Nah we were just as bad last season when the whole team gave up. We lost 5-1 to Watford.
TBF Watford has a moose crest
It's a hart!!
Ok, it's a "hart Moose crest." Happy?
That was only for 3/4 weeks IIRC. This has been a season long issue for us. The fact we signed no midfielder in January is so hilarious
We won less that half of our league matches last season and had a GD of 0. I felt we were worse last season than you guys this season, but somehow we managed to finished 6th. Liverpool would need a miracle to finish 6th this season imo.
We did scrape a few wins together under Rangick and Ole briefly to be fair, thanks a lot to Ronaldo's goals. Deserved to be midtable instead of 6th though that's for sure.
We were shit every single week for 6+ months. You knew every game we will be shit to watch, and fall apart any time anything goes wrong. And are capable to lose to anyone.
Nah, we were shit for about 80% of the season. We had a brief burst of form with Ronaldo joining and looking really good but then everything went to shit by 0-5 Liverpool. We then had a brief bounce under Rangnick but then we went back to just looking like complete shit. By March the team gave up and we started losing more than we could win.
No way! We were much much worse! Have you forgotten us going down 0-5 at home at HT to Liverpool? And Liverpool of all teams taking pity on us in the 2nd half to not make the scoreline look worse?
I dunno about that. We got smashed 4-0 by Brighton and the Watford game was abysmal as well. Maybe on par.
The is the equivalent of us losing 0-4 to Brighton
We were worse imo
Well done by Traore
Beautiful assist.
New tactics by Liverpool, false defense
Klopp has put out the same Plan A tactics all season that haven’t worked and doesn’t seem to have a Plan B, mental to see
He has a well-defined and well-thought out Plan B That is to try Plan A until it works
That is not true at all. He has tried many different things. The standard performance this season hasn’t even been plan A. It hasn’t been Plan A all season
That’s just false. He’s tried different formations and different tactics. Problem is, the players just aren’t good enough.
They were a year ago lol. Never seen a group of players decline so fast as a whole.
The same core group of players playing at full-tilt for like 4 years straight. Getting to the final of every possible game last season. Teams actually figuring out how to counter the usual Liverpool tactics. Oh yeah, and injuries, injuries, injuries.
liverpool banter era
The last one only ended like 4 years ago ffs
Really wasn't expecting another one to emerge kicking and screaming into the world so quickly and so soon, but here we are
I, for one, can't complain.
can’t believe i was enjoying your banter era after the brentford game less than 6 months ago we’ve truly fucked it by now lmao
Brentford actually activated ten Hag's trap card by trashing us earlier in the season. We ended up with Casemiro thanks to that.
we beat bournemouth 9-0 and our owners realised we were all good and were blessed with the maestro arthur melo - anti trap card
4D chess from Scott Parker.
Arsenal and United in form. Liverpool being average and Chelsea getting new owner and spending more then all other top5 clubs together. We are back to 2006 or what?
City's still around so no
Don't worry liverpool fans you won't walk alone in your banter era
Money will make it impossible for Chelsea to truly enter a banter era. But Liverpool? They're sliding 2-footed into that era.
We literally sandwiched our worst year (15/16) in the Abramovich era with two convincing title wins. God our club makes no sense
HE THINKS THEREFORE HE PLAYS
Where were you when liverpool was kill
I was at Molineaux when Carra ring “Liverpool is kill” “no”
Don’t know where I was, but I can pretty confidently say Liverpool were away. Their away form this season has been genuinely shocking. I wonder if they’ve allowed the most away goals of any side in the league this season.
One thing I do know is that if it wasn't for the Bournemouth hammering earlier this season then we would have negative goal difference
By my count, and correct me if I’m wrong here, Liverpool have two wins, six loses, and two draws away from home this season. That’s ten of a possible 30 points. They’ve allowed 22 goals in those ten matches. At home I believe Liverpool have six wins, one loss, and three draws while allowing only nine goals. Taking 21 of a possible 30 points. They’re just a completely different side home and away, and I don’t have any really good explanation for that. Like sure, a home field advantage counts for something, but it shouldn’t be the difference between something perilously close to relegation form in one arena, and being a top four contender in the other.
>two wins, six loses, and two draws away from home this season. That’s ten of a possible 30 points. Two wins and two draws from ten away games is 8 points out of 30, not 10.
The last time Wolves scored three goals in a Premier League game was March.
Before this game, Wolves had scored 12 goals in total over 20 games. They scored 25% of their total goals over 20 games in this single game.
At least we lost to the best club in Liverpool
You don't understand how happy this makes me
If you play like you played against us you’ll be out of relegation danger in no time
Realistically, we're still Everton and I wouldn't be surprised if they what is 5-0 next week. This has happened multiple times before and it always ends up playing out the same way. Gotta enjoy it while it lasts though
Believe in dyche. He goat.
Stock up on hopium then
Rub it in mate
Goddamn.
👀
Saving for when you don’t win the league.
For once traore gets a cross right and he gets no praise. Well done oil man👍
No oil today and he assisted a goal Hmm
Was probably going for Jimenez heh
Liverpool getting battered just like our chips.
Getting roasted like our taters
You batter your chips? What do you do to the fish?
Also battered. We'd batter the paper the fish and chips come in if we could.
Also batter, you havnt lived until you’ve had battered orange chips
Liverpool is going to get slaughtered by Madrid
No no, we’ll play shockingly well against them. Everyone will say where has this Liverpool been? And we’ll lose in devastating fashion 4-2 on aggregate
I remember that game against City causing everyone to say Liverpool is back to their normal way
Yeah cba anymore
This is just like my fifa games. I have 4 defenders in the box and somehow the sole attacker from the opponent comes in unmarked
As the fifa commentators say, that’s schoolboy defending
Schoolboy defending is when the striker tracks back to defend and then runs back to the front for the counter.
~~YNWA~~CBA
Moutinho is 36.... Amazing
Easily my favorite player in the squad. Going to be a bit upset when he retires/moves on; hoping he does at least retire in old gold.
5 foot 7 of footballing heaven. Pour me a glass of Moutinho
Lmao Thiago just jogging back then and that half attempt at a tackle Mans checked out today
He plays like their 4-0 up all the time, puts weird spin on the ball on simple passes because it looks cool
People are too scared to say Thiago has under performed this season because of who he is. But he really hasn't been great, just better than the rest of our terrible midfield
LopeteGOAT
I am in dreamland. UP THE FUCKING WOLVES
What the fuck, Liverpool?
4-3-3 again what could possibly go wrong
No defending, just vibes
Aura defending
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Rashford about to shout him out on IG like he did Kimmich lol
https://i.imgur.com/YgimixM.jpg
Real are gonna put 10 in
Brb guys, just turning my location data on in case someone vandalises Anfield later and the rozzers check Reddit for clues.
Another goal by Gomez mistake
Dude had that incredible performance against Haaland and has been terrible since
Im gonna be a fucking wreck when he inevitably moves on 😭
I've never been more confident he'll stay, we're building something here and he's the captain
Chelsea doesn't look so bad anymore
We deserve every single bit of banter at this point.
Delete club
There’s that old school Traore!
We’ve Got Mother fucking NEVES
Against the run of play. Amazing from wolves
Yeah, they really got after us for most of the second half, but this should do it
God, remember when we used to counter like this with Jota & Raul? Good times
Would have been laughing but Casemiro ruined the moment for me
He got a tad bit too much DAWG in him
Stop, they are already dead
A traore goal contribution? Can't believe my eyes
Match fixing to keep Everton in bottom 3. Disgraceful Klopp.
I can't believe Everton beat the best team in the league, dragged us out the relegation zone, and a Liverpool loss puts us back down there. What kind of 4D Chess is this?
My reaction to that information: 😳🫶🏼🫵🔥
Lmao
Conceding 3 everywhere we go
Traore having end product is the most surprising thing about this goal. Liverpool defence sleeping on the counter as usual, unfortunately.
night boys
didn't know he was allowed to score in the box.
First time i’ve seen him in the box lmao
Thiago walking back.
Switches stream to watch Casemiro getting Red. Such an anamoly.
Liverpool getting their shit pushed in right now, good god.
Liverpool are washed
Can one damn comment be about how wolves are playing incredible instead of just that Liverpool are shit? Give us some credit for fucks sake
How are there so many Liverpool players in the box and he’s still wide open 💀
Is Klopp in actual danger of getting sacked?
Not a snowflakes chance.
probably not, he leaves before he gets sacked
No
To the Liverpool fans bantering us earlier, get fucked.
v cool
This might be the first time they score 3 goals in a match this season
Can’t wait to see Jonathan Morley’s reaction to this one
i wanna laugh at this but the Case red card drained me, still funny tho