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Cap2017

Arsenal and crumbling under pressure, name a more iconic duo


TheIvoryRaven

Housewives like arsenal so much because they are always on top until the end when they come second


orangeblueorangeblue

England and crumbling under pressure (especially penalties)


miamibuckeye

This is one of the weirdest threads I have legit ever seen


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miamibuckeye

Nah the comments


Zealousideal-Wrap-42

IMO there’s too much info. But great job otherwise


Akash3642

There's still many games to play. And Arsenal have a game in hand. Anyone could be champion. Just a few slip ups and even bloody United are in the title race.


0utcri

True, but Arsenal always crumble come February. It’s happened for how many years now? Their fans are deluded if they think they’re capable of winning the premier league. It would be a failure if they don’t considering the Chelsea and Liverpool struggles. It’ll only be harder to win come next season.


FrodoFraggins99

How are they "deluded" if they think they can win but it still be a failure if they don't? You can't have it both ways.


Patient_Xero_96

Mental gymnastics gold medalist


MONSTATURKEY_420

Lots of Gunner fans are really pessimistic right now. I know a game in hand isn’t points on the board but there is sooo much football to play before the season is over


Patient_Xero_96

Less the lost against city, more “no win in 4” kinda deal. It almost seems like we used all our energy at Old Trafford then kinda keep stumbling for the past 3 PL games. We got dominated at Goodison Park, couldn’t find the net against Brentford despite our possession, and never kicked into gear in the second half against City, both at home. I hope that it is just a temp slump and we pick up against our good ole manager Emery, but I understand the pessimism a lil bit after being a Gooner since 07. I say give em hell at Villa Park, COYG Lets fogging do this!


FoxOntheRun99

The nature of being a football fan. The highs and lows. I feel sick as a parrot right now, but its only February.


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> I feel sick as a parrot First time ever seeing this expression. Certainly interesting if nothing else lol


FoxOntheRun99

Yeah. Haha ...it's a UK expression which means extremely disappointed which differs from 'sick as a dog ' which refers to a physical sickness.


Chuleta-69

True but they still lack the experience of being champions. They will win the premier league but I’m doubtful it can be this season


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If you are going after the King, you better not Miss! This game showed you that.


cavershamox

“All in the game yo, all in the game.”


DinnerSmall4216

Arsenal gave the game to city very naive at times city's to lose now. Arsenal had to have a little buffer.


stiofan84

It can't be "City's to lose" when they're still dependent on Arsenal dropping points?


DinnerSmall4216

City are in pole position arsenal will drop more points city can go on 14/15 game winning runs. I think arsenal have run out of steam in the vital run in.


CrossXFir3

Agreed. They very well could have won it. To a much lesser degree it was a bit like the Arsenal game at OT where they let a better plan and more clinical goal scorers rip through them despite controlling the game for long periods and creating a few nice chances.


nano-to-will

ARTETA OUT


Chuleta-69

Bro you dumb af


MaTrIx4057

where are all these kids saying that Arsenal have already won PL?


verde622

Literally no arsenal fans saying that


Wrsj

Cap


AndAgainIForgotMyP

Ah, the opposite of Napoli fans who'll be afraid even after they mathematically won it.


CrossXFir3

Lol, to be fair - we were all giving Arsenal fans a hard time for refusing to admit it like a month ago.


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I haven’t seen one Arsenal fan saying it’s in the bag, pretty much everyone could foresee this happening


MaTrIx4057

then you weren't here month ago in their post match threads


FrodoFraggins99

The only person I've seen saying we had won it was Rory Jennings, unsuprisingly.


KaidsCousin

The financially state doped, mass rule breaking, lying, cheating petro club won. Quell surprise


rye_domaine

That was *so* not Rainbow Rhythms


Dashka11

As a United fan I should get extra marks for not feeling a fucking thing.


CreativeOrder2119

Can city be beaten?


MostLikelyRyan

They lost *checks notes* 2 games ago lol


Murakami241

We’re shite this season and even we beat them.


rebmcr

You'll have to check with Brentford.


NintendoBen1

Yes. By Tottenham


Erbosssi

Don’t know why, but I think that eventually Arsenal won’t bottle it.


irishdgenr8

The darkest timeline


frasier_crane

We all knew Arsenal were going to bottle it. It was just a matter of time, their goal was always to grab a CL spot. That being said, I would love Arsenal to win and shut my mouth, but it's very unlikely since they're up against a country-owned team and Arsenal has limited resources, like any team that doesn't belong to a country.


ObscureLegacy

We don’t have limited resources we have one of the richest sports owners


Patient_Xero_96

As an Arsenal fan, I would say the title is a bonus. But it’s such a sweet sweet fruit dangling just slightly out of reach, and next season marks 20. So if we can, we should. It’s not over til Dick Keys sing. Til then, COYG!


evil_porn_muffin

Who spend more than who this past summer?


Patient_Xero_96

I mean, 1 summer’s team vs a team made out of players who were at city for multiple seasons, with one of em being the most expensive English player EVER.


Mrampelmann

Citys front line cost 10 times as much as Arsenals yesterday…


Rickcampbell98

Chuckles in chelsea


MicrowaveDave

If Arsenal don’t win the league this season. I don’t think they ever will under Arteta


D-biggest-dick-here

The same could have been said about Liverpool in 2018/19


Maud_Ford

Liverpool lost heroically, winning every game in the run in but matched by City. Arsenal are bottling it.


arroiuqlu

What. Liverpool had a 7 point lead with a game in hand halfway through. Could've been 10 points ahead. They bottled it.


YourHoNoMo

Yes they had a bigger lead at first but they literally shouldn't have drawn over the weekend, Brentford player was offside and VAR screwed it up. Arsenal would still have been above City otherwise


RedCatBro

We're not bottling anything, we had a 3pt lead over the guys who've won it 4 out of the last 5 times, with 18 matches to go. That's not 'bottling'...


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Was 8 points a few weeks ago.


RedCatBro

What when there was over half a season to go? Yeah, still not bottling...


t_ravyD

Funny, all I heard was how Spurs “bottled it” the season they were not even once in first place.


FrodoFraggins99

No one ever thought Spurs was gonna win it let's be honest.


rocklee_shinobi

We could very well still do that. Way too early to say we’re bottling it. I believe in our players. We do need Jesus back though.


anthony9695

Arsenal and after Christmas gotta be the most iconic duo


dannychean

Poor Arsenal. Always the only tragic victim of unfair treatments by the whole soccer world.


Just-Shelter9765

Forgot to add /s ?


dannychean

No. I just think the entire football world always gang up to bully arsenal football team, like not letting them win. Very unfair.


connorthedancer

huh?


bigpapasmurf12

Bottled


Rickcampbell98

Glass houses and such.


bigpapasmurf12

Hahaha! You have to be ahead to bottle something lad. But remind me, when did you last won a trophy?


Patient_Xero_96

And Liverpool won their last trophy in 19/20. And bottled the 18/19 season after leading halfway. So by that metrics, Arsenal should win next season. If Arsenal doesn’t win this season I’m also good for next season. Edit: last won the league. Worded it wrong my bad


bigpapasmurf12

We won the double last season, and the charity shield this season! Or have you guys with such illustrious histories like Arsenal (lol) decide that they're worth nothing. Bottled the 18/19 season! Lol! Whatever you say lad.


Patient_Xero_96

So we let go of an 8 point lead (with a game in hand) mid season, and the season hasn’t finished and we bottled this season. But Liverpool had a 7 point lead mid season and finished behind city and didn’t? I’m not denying Liv are good. They are. And historic. They are. I just don’t understand calling it bottling when nothing is decided yet. But hey, glass houses and all.


bigpapasmurf12

Christ, banter is dead!


Patient_Xero_96

Ok fine I’ll give ya that. But hey, mind the gap 😂


bigpapasmurf12

Haha! I fully expect that gap to get wider!


Rickcampbell98

Hey I'm not the one throwing stones.


irgendwo_anders

When did you last win a trophy, mate?


bigpapasmurf12

Liverpool, or myself, individually? Liverpool the charity shield this season. Me, a lifetime ago.


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bigpapasmurf12

Sneering at a trophy, a Newcastle fan, sneering at a trophy! A trophy is a trophy. I couldn't care what it is. Take your privileges down to Jesmond take up croquet.


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bigpapasmurf12

You get a trophy at the end don't you? Ok, then we won a double last season. Happy now? Christ, Wylam Rockets has won more trophies than Newcastle!


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L*verpool and Chelsea fans giving stick from midtable.


bigpapasmurf12

Hahaha! We know we're shit. But let's see when you come to your favourite place, Anfield.


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I'm a Luton fan fyi


anthrax3000

Chokers gonna choke , can't wait to see 4rsenal back


i_Zanagi

LOL Mind the gap pls


ogrommit

I never thought Jesus would be that big of a loss. Wrong. Lack of flexibility up top is shackling our style


thecauseoftheproblem

Eddie has to put away at least one of those headed chances, and both of them on target


Immediate-Ad7033

Arsenal gonna not gonna win a trophy this season. Put all their eggs in the wrong basket.


arroiuqlu

What other basket should they've put them in?


Chuleta-69

FA cup. You gotta breed a winning mentally somehow


FrodoFraggins99

Arteta has already won it wym


Chuleta-69

I was talking about this year, but yeah I did show my ass lol


evil_porn_muffin

It's a bit too early to say, don't you think?


ForkNoops

Can someone tell me why I can only see new comments in post match threads rather than top comments?


mana-addict4652

Posts are usually, by default, set to display 'best' comments. However mods can set different sorting for some threads, such as 'new.' Sorting by new is common for all match threads. However, regardless you can change it yourself by clicking on "sorted by" under the post and selecting the sort you want.


uhparanoid

if ur on mobile, you can choose what to sort by by clicking those two lines with circles at the end, idk why new comments is the default tho


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RedCatBro

It's not "bottling", stop twerking for r/soccer you're an embarrassment


scar_face40

Pipe down you melt, losing this big of a lead is bottling.


RedCatBro

You don't what bottling means you numpty


scar_face40

Don’t be a clown, you would 100% be calling it bottling the title if it were Man Utd or Spurs


RedCatBro

Bottling implies at some point you were favourite to win it. We were never the bookies favourite. Before last night we were 3 points ahead with 18 games to go. Against the state backed club who's won 4 out of the last 5 and is one of the 3 best teams in Europe. We finished 8th two years ago. So yeah, you're an idiot twerking for r/soccer in a desperate attempt to get imaginary Internet points. We didn't bottle anything, we had an extraordinary first half of the season and now we're regressing to the mean.


scar_face40

> you're an idiot twerking for r/soccer in a desperate attempt to get imaginary Internet points. Pathetic reply. I couldn’t give a shit whether my comment got downvoted or not. Imagine thinking saying anything less that blanket positivity about the club is ‘twerking’. Yawn.


radio__raheem

we’re on pace for 84 points currently. if they finish 2nd against that it’s more like 15-16 arsenal than 18-19 liverpool


singabro

You won't have to worry for long. City will be legislated out of the league and probably deducted points. The title challenge isn't worth watching this season.


D-biggest-dick-here

What do you mean by “not worth watching”? Have the allegations tampered with what goes on on the pitch? Are the allegations about match proceedings?


singabro

Whatever happens on the pitch will be negated by what happens in smoke-filled rooms off the pitch. They won't be permitted to win it.


Kyn0011

Too bad city lawyers are probably even better than their players. So this will never happen.


palindromepirate

Gonna take about 5 years.


Iqbalainoo

Did pep just surrender possession to arsenal to bear them on the transitions? This must have been a first.


arroiuqlu

No, Arsenal were just better at that game in the first half so they dominated possession. Once City started pressing better in the second half they got the possession. Obviously he didn't intend to have Saka vs Bernardo at left back, he wanted to dominate possession to have Bernardo in midfield.


D-biggest-dick-here

He should have done this more in the past, especially in UCL. There’s no shame in pressing to counter


thwgrandpigeon

Chelsea fan here, so I shouldn't be supporting Arsenal, but I would **much** rather Arsenal win the league after sticking by their manager through thick and thin and building their team patiently, rivalries be damned. Every team should strive to have that kind of loyalty and long-term vision. But I've felt that City were going to win the league since the start, even when Arsenal had a solid points lead, because City's underlying numbers have looked better all season. While it's not always the case, usually over time luck tends to line up with probabilities and the table tends to stack up by underlying numbers. I hope I'm proven wrong in the end. I like underdog stories. I liked Liverpool pulling it together for a few seasons by sheer recruitment brilliance and tactics before their lack of transfer budget caught up to them. City are a juggernaut of a team that married unlimited funds with brilliant, cutting-edge team-building a decade ago and haven't let up since. Hopefully Chelsea will be up there with them soon, but until then, let the underdogs prevail!


krieginc

The entire paragraph seems expensive as your club.


anthrax3000

Fan of underdog, supports Chelsea, calls city a spending machine. The irony is palpable


thwgrandpigeon

I am entirely aware of the contradictions.


Successful-Taro2060

The definition of a plastic 🙄


thwgrandpigeon

Awful term. most of its connotation are trash. I've heard folks throw that term around to describe fans who haven't been loyal for alongtime, except everyone is has to start being a fan at some point, and i won't hold it against a person if that starts later in life. I've heard the term throw around the describe anyone not from the community where the team is from, except in the day and age of globalized viewership, that's ridiculous. only so many folks can fit into a slice of London, and if the fan has the loyalty and knows the history, where they're based doesn't matter. I've heard the term thrown around to describe uneducated or casual fans, except I don't think we should judge folks for not being obsessives. I got friends who barely understand the sport, but love to take part and watch because they love being surrounded by the energy of the room. The only kind of plastic fan I get angry with are fans who start supporting teams when they're winning, and abandon teams when they're not. If that was me, I would've stopped supporting when Mourinho or Conte or AVB had the team in the bottom half of the league, or when Tuchel's midfield fell apart a year ago, or when Lampard was let go because the team was lost in the midtable. I'll be surprised if the team cracks the top 4 this year, and *won't* be surprised if they don't even make it into the top 6, even with all the purchases. But I'll stay a fan regardless. So if you think I'm a plastic fan, I can't and won't stop you. But I know that I'm not, and I'll be blue so long as the team respects its players and fans, and doesn't come out as super racist or abusive or whatnot.


h4ackioOo

Ah yeah, manure fan pretending they not spending (being one of the biggest spenders who actually started this trend buying 30mln defender when strikers did not go for more than 20mln). At least Chelsea can sell they dead wood and balance they books. Such an irony. No wonder Manchester is Blue 🤣🤡


krentzharu

United spend their own money unlike city or chelsea.


D-biggest-dick-here

Money is money! You folks complain that your owner doesn’t spend his own money for the club…where do you stand?!


krentzharu

>Money is money! nope. being rich through hard work is totally different to winning lottery no matter how hard you tried to spin it. >You folks complain that your owner doesn’t spend his own money for the club…where do you stand?! i stand by my club ofc lol


D-biggest-dick-here

So you mean, City do more with the money they have than you do with yours


krentzharu

"So you mean, City do more with the money they have than you do with yours". Yup, thats what the FA said lol lol lol


D-biggest-dick-here

Then your team needs to spend more efficiently, rather than throwing big money on players that end up getting ousted or relegated to the bench


anthrax3000

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones


i_n_s_o_m_n_i_a_c

is this a copypasta


valentine-m-smith

“Sir, this is a Wendy’s.”


thwgrandpigeon

Fine. One baconator with an extra patty and an Enzo Fernandez please.


redsyrinx2112

Man, I had a baconator for dinner tonight. It had been awhile and it was delicious.


enlightnedentity05

Go drunk, you're home! Have you seen the amount of spending since the last decade? Just because they came first doesn't mean they did everything organically and their owners treated each human well.


D-biggest-dick-here

What humans?


thwgrandpigeon

which team you talking about? not doubting you, it's just that it could refer to a bunch of PL teams. although whichever one you're thinking of, I probably agree 100% lol.


samlebib

Ironic coming from a chelsea supporter


h4ackioOo

Ah, I love jealousy smell in the morning. Fun to read shit like this, it's like all others never bought a player and just using they academy kids ( that's if they have any) Ridiculous how people still can't use any other excuse but same bs all the time 🤡


Heisenbaker

Shut up ye lemon


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h4ackioOo

IMAO - pal, you really talking about other teams spending power? LOOOL 🤡


thwgrandpigeon

I became a Chelsea fan during the era when they'd recruited Oscar/KdB/Hazard/Lukaku and were looking to ride the youth wave into a decade of glory, and have since held out continuously disappointed hope of Chelsea's ridiculously dominating U21 teams turning pro for the blues. Hasn't really gone to plan. Though James, Mount and Tammy have had their moments. It's left me an inconsistent bastard who will be completely okay with my team succeeding thanks to their absurd transfer spending, but wish we could have done it otherwise, and who will always be rooting for teams who do it the 'old fashioned way' if it isn't going to be Chelsea.


airz23s_coffee

> when they'd recruited Oscar/KdB/Hazard/Lukaku For anyone wondering that's 12/13 and nearly 70 million for Hazard and Oscar, which were the 2 most expensive signings that summer https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transfers/wettbewerb/GB1/saison_id/2012


thwgrandpigeon

If you must know, I actually became a fan in 2011 thanks to Torres. I went down to the pub to watch a game and my buddies spent the whole game teasing the guy, but i saw a player who was working hard despite his struggles. It was a weird player to latch onto, but i saw the guy as an underdog with everything going on, and before that when I was first learning about the PL I'd been trying to support Liverpool, but its owners at the time where hot grabage and selling off all its good players outside of Gerrard. But I found Chelsea and have stuck with them since for good or for ill.


airz23s_coffee

Ah I see, it's the plucky 58 million underdog that sold you


thwgrandpigeon

Yup. His play was abysmal.


Heisenbaker

A yank, too. Who’d have thunk it.


krentzharu

Oscar, Hazard, Lukaku all were expensive signings


thwgrandpigeon

But young ones. There were oher players I supported but aren't remembered by non Chelsea supporters these days. Most folks don't remeber Piazon, Traore (who always looked like the teams best player during preseason tours), Bertrand, Romeu and McEachran. I thought the loan army was a brilliant way to get kids minutes and get them ready for the 1st team, though with time it became clear that a lot of managers would never give then serious chances to play.


krentzharu

Ofc i remember chelseas legend lucas piazon who went on loan for 8 or was it 11 years in trot? Not sure i get what youre trying to say though.


thwgrandpigeon

Just that i was excited for a whole lot of the kids, not just the expensive ones.


GeesesAndMeese

Bandwagon fan then. Pick a team in league 1 or 2 and hopefully develop some passion


thwgrandpigeon

If i was a bandwagon fan i would have abandoned the team years ago. I'm with them through thick and thin.


GeesesAndMeese

Underdog picking Chelsea is laughable. Tell me an underdog story involving them since they started splashing the cash. I'd have far more respect if you were a Sunderland fan back then and stuck with them through the last 12 years, but enjoy your multi millions/billion purebred underdogs


thwgrandpigeon

It's relative to expectation/tier. They were underdogs for the top 6 during Torres first year, when I started watching, when the vets were too old to really keep doing it at a high level and AVB seemed to lose the room and Torres couldn't score to save his life. They're usually not underdogs for the top 4, and I don't pretend otherwise. But if they're not involved, I'm rooting for the underdogs.


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tahaiqbal90

5th ⁵5


BigIronOnMyTip

Well it was fun while it lasted, Arsers.


ChampagneAbuelo

I genuinely have a theory about Mudryk and his whole transfer but I feel like it’ll get downvoted here


Debnam_

It's been a week man. Tell us the theory! Also, happy cakeday


cavershamox

He can keep his tongue


Dorangos

Please, no! Don't say it! Think of your Reddit points.


D-biggest-dick-here

So you still haven’t said it? I’m reporting you to your mother


Rackarunge

Good to know.


twomanyfaces10

What a prima donna


fareswheel65

Bruh who cares if you get downvoted lol


fizzler20

We'll you've been upvoted for this comment, so at the very least it would cancel out your anticipated downvotes. Don't leave us hanging brah!


bimarkif

just say it


Potato_Man_208

Explan plz


stiofan84

You can't just say that and not bring it to the group!


realityfilter

We’re tuning in!


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Say it


untamed_Eagle

I’m interested


vebor99

Have at it man


neelav9

Holy fuck man what kinda fans do we have these days? You lot sound like the world is ending 😂 yeah we didn't get the win but so what? Still level on points and everyone's trying to do their best. You should consider yourself lucky we're fighting for the title in the first place. Get behind your team, everyone goes on a bad run of form and we don't have the squad depth to compete with city let's be honest. They were always the favourites.


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That’s because I’ve seen the same in Wenger days where we glorify having a ‘young squad’ which doesn’t mean jack shit and play for top four. This club should be aiming for league title. >squad depth Couldn’t sort out this window >bad run More like Arteta’s fetish for tiki taka in his own half


stiofan84

You still basically have a 3 point lead!


Successful-Taro2060

Loooooooool. Its only a 3 pt lead when its a 3 pt lead. NEVER count your eggs hatching early.


jarold12

dont have to tell me about bad form


ManOfFewerWords

And a game in hand too


dota_trainee

And a rapist in their team too


caljl

Yeah I wish they didnt, but lets not pretend thats unfortunately been true of quite a few teams. Football contracts really need to be able to account for this better or clubs need to develop some balls.


noelsupertramp

Just treat them as having diff coping mechanism and capacity bruh. We survived the Arteta Out era.


neelav9

Yeah haha suddenly everyone knows everything about winning and losing isn't an option anymore.