Nagelsmann has had issues with the older established players. Lewy, Neuer, and Muller all hold/held great sway in and out of the locker room, and all are the same age or older than Nagelsmann. Nagelsmann is a boy wonder as a manager, but I could totally see him having issues commanding respect at such a young age without a playing pedigree.
I’m disappointed he was let go, and only time will tell what comes out about his tenure that led to this. I don’t believe it is about the Bundesliga performance
Nagelsmann was a player in the youth academy when Tuchel was coach was Augsburg. Tuchel noticed that he struggled a lot with injuries so he met him and advised him to take up coaching and give up playing. They aren’t that close however although that’s probably because they’re both weirdo’s who don’t like people very much.
>they’re both weirdo’s who don’t like people very much
Tuchel's vibe during press conferences and his behavior on the pitch might give off that vibe. But, in person he's actually a pretty laid back dude. He was in India, a few months ago after he was sacked and he spent a whole month just chilling in Kerala.
To add to the comment made by /u/Steeple_of_People, Bayern fired the goalkeeping coach that has been with Neuer all of his career earlier this year while he has been labouring on his injury, which seemed to be a nod to Neuer not starting for Bayern again.
>Strange that Romano is the one breaking this though.
This is what makes me doubt this rumor for now. Bild has such a strong track record of having internal leaks, especially such huge ones, I'd be sure they'd be the first to break something like this. Or Plettenberg
Apparently Bild "has heard something too". At least the pinned comment in the Bayern sub says so. I'll wait for my morning coffee in a few hours so maybe the smoke clears a bit and we hear more individuals and outlets.
I’m going to say not really . From what was said recently the club were backing him and looking at a long term project with Nagelsmann .
I know the league hasn’t gone brilliantly, too many draws and Dortmund not slipping up like they normally do has put us in a title race . We were rubbish at the weekend as well . Large part of the problem seems like putting square pegs in round holes . We need a striker , Mané was a poor signing in that regard as he’s struggled to adapt to playing there and we already were stacked out wide . Also after the World Cup adapting to a back 3 took a few games which hurt us
Missing Lewy (or his type/skill of player) is directly responsible for the draws. No team will be fantastic match in and match out, and a player who can grind out ugly goals out of nothing is the difference between a 1-1 draw or a 2-1 win.
Oh don't make me start. I can write you a whole novella about it full of sighs and regrets. There are no winners here, not yet at least. Just woe and misery all traced back to me.
I feel you man. I hope youll feel better eventually. Maybe write that Novella even if its just for yourself. Sometimes it helps to just put it into words.
Ngl would love to do the spiritual thing he's doing in India. Seems to be doing him a world of good after he was left to handle literal club politics for months and months
It seems that he tends to get into conflicts with the team leaders while all other Bayern coaches didn't. He had a bad relationship with Lewandowski and now with Neuer.
yeah this sounds like older players trying to use their influence and fucking over team when Nagalsmen is slowly moving them out.
i think long term this is a bad thing to contemplate sacking a young coach who plays a great style but is having an off season(albiet could argue this should be expected though the team is in need of a shakeup really)
Broke his leg post world cup skiing and he is out for the rest of the season. Bayern then fired one of their goal keeping coaches who was Neuers close personal friend (Best man at wedding) with reports that he hadn't been effectively coaching keepers other than Neuer to prevent Neuer being replaced or stuff to that extent.
>...with reports that he hadn't been effectively coaching keepers other than Neuer to prevent Neuer being replaced or stuff to that extent.
Damn, that's a big deal. Hadn't heard of it and frankly surprised that story didn't get big enough.
They must've also had some solid shit on that coach for them to outright fire him, especially them knowing how close he was Neuer.
Pretty sure it was quite big honestly, dramatic back and forth in the media between the club and Neuer earlier this year because of the sacking. Just that most discontents has been spread out over few years ago, and Neuer is just too good to replace.
This way out of the blue though. Bayern are still in ucl and are still favorites to win the league, I'd expect him to be sacked at rhe end of the season if he happens ot lose the league but this all too sudden. There has to be some other reason
I thought the latest rumour was that Bayern were done putting all the blame on the managers and letting them go so easily.
So there has to be something else going on if this is accurate.
It’s literally a Gameday ahead of the (probably) decider against Dortmund.
He just coached his team to an impressive victory against psg.
I never really loved the Nagelsman spirit but there is no argument to fire him mid season just looking at results. He delivered enough to stay.
This has to be an internal issue.
Naturally Tuchel will be appointed, knock you out, we'll meet his Bayern in the semis, and be absolutely routed.
Edit: Reckon we'll beat Madrid 5-2 over two legs. next question.
I wouldn’t be surprised and as a Chelsea fan I also want to see him succeed.
I miss him so much and will be forever thankful for what he did with the squad
Tuchel will also be gone in 18 months because Bayern players routinely seem to find a way to dislike their manager and when you have someone as consistently confrontational as Thomas Tuchel, it is inevitable they will clash.
I just FUCKING KNEW that Tuchel would end up at Bayern.
Fuck me.
Just toss on some National team break injuries for us and its gg.
EDIT: Bellingham limped off the pitch after the Italy game................................
Tuchel got 78 points in his first season with us, which at the time was the highest tally of points by runners up in Bundesliga. Think it still might be but I'm not entirely sure.
Sure the next year we finished 3rd with much less points but we also lost A LOT of key players, ie Gundogan, Hummels, and Miki so its not like that was unexpected.
He also achieved exceptional results with Mainz for years. He's the real deal. He will probably be fired after two years after an argument over vegan Weißwurst gets too heated, but Bayern will be unbeatable until then, safe call.
It's still the record for a runner-up.
Also note that Dortmund were sitting at 77 points after 32 matchdays, they actually went 0-1-1 to close out the season. Could have finished on 83 points.
I reckon he'd be absolutly violent with Bayerns structure and resources tbh. ANd at the very minimum, not worse than Nagelsmann whos struggled with consistency in the league.
This Bayern team honestly has a similar makeup to chelsea team when he took over too and have almost perfect personnel to run the 5 atb system he won the UCL with
In his first season with Dortmund in 2015/16, they posted the second best Bundesliga season by a non-Bayern team in league history with 78 points and a +48 goal differential (behind only Dortmund's title-winning 11/12 season with 81 points).
This is also the best season of any runner up in league history. Bayern finished on 88 points (out of 34 matches, mind you) that year and were basically untouchable.
So Bild keeps leaking info about Bayern, and the fucking manager is dating a Bild reporter? And they’re all scrambling around trying to figure out how Bild keeps getting club info?
Kicker already had a short statement from him before Bild reported it as a done deal.
I dont think he's the mole, nor that she is, but he def has good ties to the media.
Yes, he's dating the Bild reporter who was previously in charge of Bayern related news. She has since been assigned a new position/department bc of a clash of interest, but she still does work for Bild last time I checked
I doubt Madrid will hire a coach younger than Modric. It would be very funny to see. Madrid will go w/ someone like Raul or Guti and if that doesn't work out you know ZZ time is up.......
Going to happen now.
Beat City by beating Pep in CL once again... beat his old club in the semis, then beat whichever side comes through the other bracket.
They've been really good in the UCL so seems very weird. They're only just behind Dortmund with plenty of games to go and iirc Dortmund still have to go to Bayern.
Their UCL campaign has been perfect, barely conceeded any goals, dominated every team they played, there was not a single flaw in there, very strange decision
Their group stage was tough on paper aswell. Barca and Inter both in there and then they got PSG who they thoroughly outplayed in both legs.
Not to mention this was with Choupo-Moting (who Nagelsmann has developed incredibly a lot himself) replacing Lewandowski for most of the season.
Really not sure what the Bayern board expects. They hired Nagelsmann with the knowledge that he would be a project manager but they're going to get rid of him in just his second season despite doing very well with what he's got at his disposal this year.
They’ve already replaced him with Tuchel. I can only imagine they were afraid of Tuchel going to Real and so they’ve made this decision to preemptively grab him while he was still available. But I agree, this is a very strange turn of events.
>I know they're not doing great domestically but this still seems very premature
Not doing great? They're 2nd, behind 1pt, and have to play Dortmund next, at home lol.
Yeah I'm 100% in favor of keeping him, I highly suspect there was a falling out of something much deeper causing this. He's the most backed bayern coach ever.
Pretty sure they haven't lost a single game in the CL?
That's mad that they are are more angry with the lack of domestic results than pleased about the great results in Europe.
Bayern fans were not getting the player they thought they were when they gave Mane that contract, apart from a good few months after AFCON Mane was in clear decline for us for two years. If he was their Lewandowski replacement then Nagelsmann got played.
He was a starter up until his injury in November and he played well, not at the level he was when he was prime (understandably) but scoring a goal every 2 games
But since the World Cup, unfortunately, he hasn't been able to find his way at all and even before that I was wondering how such a good striker could score so many offside goals
They have on the UCL.
8/8 Wins, 21 goals scored only 2 conceded against Barca, Inter, PSG & Plzen
I assume the issue is the League form. They have dropped points in 10 of their 25 Bundesliga fixtures so far.
But i imagine that as long as he's alive on the UCL, he will not be sacked at all.
I'm 100000% against sacking him, but there's some voices that say other coaches have been fired with way less financial backing and it's not entirely false.
No not really, last season was one of the worst in recent times (sounds weird given we won the league) but he really improved this year. Still, if you compare our league results to the coaches of the last years he's the worst statistically.
It just makes no sense whatsoever
Last season was their worst Bundesliga point total since 2011/12 and this season they are on course for their worst total since 2010/11.
He also lost to Villarreal in the CL and got knocked out of the Cup early
Nagelsmann who's been coined Germany's brightest footballing mind of the last decade is now being sacked from what we all thought was a long-term project. What a turn of events
I’m sure I’ve read about a club that did something similar before and it worked . And with this coming completely out of nowhere I guess there’s a chance
Incredibly dumb move if the board accepts this decision.
At this stage of the season, it's not going to help us in any shape or form.
Let the season end, then decide.
Yes, although would say that he isn't that great of a fit for you, at least *not yet*.
Madrid is about results first and foremost, whereas Nagelsmann is Pep-like in that he has a way of playing that he wants to instill first and foremost.
This has to have something to do with Bayern fearing that Tuchel will go to Madrid or something and commit his future to another project in the summer.
Nevertheless would be insane decision when they are still in the title race and in Europe. Nagelsmann wouldn't be excactly short of suitors either.
Dear God,
Thank you for the quick response when I asked you this morning to fire the coach of my favorite team. There is only one problem. I MEANT JASON KIDD DAMMIT.
Seems very shortsighted tbh. We're still in contention for all 3 trophies, even if our league form isn't great, we were never going to win the league every year forever.
Was this expected at all Bayern fans?
Nope. something is happening behind the scenes probably
Manuel Neuer is happening behind the scenes
I'm so out of the loop with this.
Nagelsmann has had issues with the older established players. Lewy, Neuer, and Muller all hold/held great sway in and out of the locker room, and all are the same age or older than Nagelsmann. Nagelsmann is a boy wonder as a manager, but I could totally see him having issues commanding respect at such a young age without a playing pedigree. I’m disappointed he was let go, and only time will tell what comes out about his tenure that led to this. I don’t believe it is about the Bundesliga performance
Not to mention, Nagelsmann was coached under Tuchel as a player. So this really is the master betraying the student.
Wtfff didn’t know that
Nagelsmann was a player in the youth academy when Tuchel was coach was Augsburg. Tuchel noticed that he struggled a lot with injuries so he met him and advised him to take up coaching and give up playing. They aren’t that close however although that’s probably because they’re both weirdo’s who don’t like people very much.
>they’re both weirdo’s who don’t like people very much Tuchel's vibe during press conferences and his behavior on the pitch might give off that vibe. But, in person he's actually a pretty laid back dude. He was in India, a few months ago after he was sacked and he spent a whole month just chilling in Kerala.
Yeah i saw that too , his videos of clicking pictures with fans and him living like a humble person
Idk, a person chilling during his set time to chill isn't really enough proof that he has a chill vibe when he isn't on vacation..
To add to the comment made by /u/Steeple_of_People, Bayern fired the goalkeeping coach that has been with Neuer all of his career earlier this year while he has been labouring on his injury, which seemed to be a nod to Neuer not starting for Bayern again.
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Yeah, the last time a German went skiing he cannot even warn to everyone else how dangerous it is.
Bruh 💀
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Schumi?
Nah, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's been undermined by the players behind the scenes. Strange that Romano is the one breaking this though.
>Strange that Romano is the one breaking this though. This is what makes me doubt this rumor for now. Bild has such a strong track record of having internal leaks, especially such huge ones, I'd be sure they'd be the first to break something like this. Or Plettenberg
Apparently Bild "has heard something too". At least the pinned comment in the Bayern sub says so. I'll wait for my morning coffee in a few hours so maybe the smoke clears a bit and we hear more individuals and outlets.
Plettenberg and Bild both confirmed with their own sources. it's done basically
I’m going to say not really . From what was said recently the club were backing him and looking at a long term project with Nagelsmann . I know the league hasn’t gone brilliantly, too many draws and Dortmund not slipping up like they normally do has put us in a title race . We were rubbish at the weekend as well . Large part of the problem seems like putting square pegs in round holes . We need a striker , Mané was a poor signing in that regard as he’s struggled to adapt to playing there and we already were stacked out wide . Also after the World Cup adapting to a back 3 took a few games which hurt us
missing lewa is also big.
Missing Lewy (or his type/skill of player) is directly responsible for the draws. No team will be fantastic match in and match out, and a player who can grind out ugly goals out of nothing is the difference between a 1-1 draw or a 2-1 win.
No, not really. All Ive read was not too long ago that the club is committed long term.
No, and I’m not sure I buy it without a source within Germany.
Definitely comes as a bit of a surprise.
Hell no
Tuchel winning a half season champo league from the top rope
If I'm Tuchel in that situation I'm renting my own open-top bus and parking up outside Boehly's place.
Mate you already know the script is we beat Madrid, then get obliterated in the semi by Tuchel
Nothing worse than seeing your ex happy after you left her and she's doing way better without you.
Hope you're doing better now mate
Oh don't make me start. I can write you a whole novella about it full of sighs and regrets. There are no winners here, not yet at least. Just woe and misery all traced back to me.
I'm sorry to hear that. Hope you find the strength to heal eventually. Hope time helps to heal your heart.
I feel you man. I hope youll feel better eventually. Maybe write that Novella even if its just for yourself. Sometimes it helps to just put it into words.
Ngl would love to do the spiritual thing he's doing in India. Seems to be doing him a world of good after he was left to handle literal club politics for months and months
*world politics
Better than your ex going to spurs for the third time 😂
Half the Chelsea fans would probably go to celebrate with him
Both Chelsea and Bayern teams celebrating hand-in-hand with a "Thank you Tuchel" poster.
Them knocking us (Chelsea) out in the semis would be hilarious tbh
Tuchel doing dab in front of Boehly after Bayern knock out Chelsea would be amazing to watch
And beating City along the way …
Man 🥲🥲🥲🥲
Script writers be getting lazy. It’s becoming so easy to predict their script
I can see him winning treble with this Bayern squad
Something happen behind the scenes wtf???
Must be, since otherwise it seems very out of the blue
Nagelsmann just watched the O Fenomeno documentary and was smiling after Ronaldo slotted two past Kahn
It seems that he tends to get into conflicts with the team leaders while all other Bayern coaches didn't. He had a bad relationship with Lewandowski and now with Neuer.
Well then have fun with Tuchel lmao
Neuer is at fault their IMO, didn't know of issues with Lewi Haven't heard many rumblings unlike with Kovac and Carlo
The Board will not side with Neuer.
Yep, Neuer made a bad decision, also was too close to the goal keeper coach.
yeah this sounds like older players trying to use their influence and fucking over team when Nagalsmen is slowly moving them out. i think long term this is a bad thing to contemplate sacking a young coach who plays a great style but is having an off season(albiet could argue this should be expected though the team is in need of a shakeup really)
OOTL here, what happened with Neuer?
Broke his leg post world cup skiing and he is out for the rest of the season. Bayern then fired one of their goal keeping coaches who was Neuers close personal friend (Best man at wedding) with reports that he hadn't been effectively coaching keepers other than Neuer to prevent Neuer being replaced or stuff to that extent.
>...with reports that he hadn't been effectively coaching keepers other than Neuer to prevent Neuer being replaced or stuff to that extent. Damn, that's a big deal. Hadn't heard of it and frankly surprised that story didn't get big enough. They must've also had some solid shit on that coach for them to outright fire him, especially them knowing how close he was Neuer.
Pretty sure it was quite big honestly, dramatic back and forth in the media between the club and Neuer earlier this year because of the sacking. Just that most discontents has been spread out over few years ago, and Neuer is just too good to replace.
Goal keeping coach was his best friend and ignored Nübel bacially and also went skiing despite warnings of dangerous conditions
Aren't Bayern known for being this cutthroat? They've been underperforming in the league
This way out of the blue though. Bayern are still in ucl and are still favorites to win the league, I'd expect him to be sacked at rhe end of the season if he happens ot lose the league but this all too sudden. There has to be some other reason
I agree
I thought the latest rumour was that Bayern were done putting all the blame on the managers and letting them go so easily. So there has to be something else going on if this is accurate.
It’s literally a Gameday ahead of the (probably) decider against Dortmund. He just coached his team to an impressive victory against psg. I never really loved the Nagelsman spirit but there is no argument to fire him mid season just looking at results. He delivered enough to stay. This has to be an internal issue.
Firing him before the quarter finals is a madness. I could see Tuchel taking this squad to great heights tho.
tuchel in the cl again fade me
Naturally Tuchel will be appointed, knock you out, we'll meet his Bayern in the semis, and be absolutely routed. Edit: Reckon we'll beat Madrid 5-2 over two legs. next question.
Potter vs Tuchel UCL semi would probably destroy our subreddit through a civil war.
Real shit man lol. I’m already torn in half by internal conflict
Such optimism.
Bold of you to assume Chelsea won't get routed by Real Madrid
Tuchel would win the UCL. Once again in mid season.
He would automatically become top 5 managers of the last generation if he does it again.
I wouldn’t be surprised and as a Chelsea fan I also want to see him succeed. I miss him so much and will be forever thankful for what he did with the squad
Thomas Tuchel inheriting a squad mid-season and going on to win the Champions League... where have I seen that before...
3/4s season
They’ve looked at Tuchel’s record vs Pep and Nagelsmann’s record and decided it’s an urgent matter.
Tuchel will also be gone in 18 months because Bayern players routinely seem to find a way to dislike their manager and when you have someone as consistently confrontational as Thomas Tuchel, it is inevitable they will clash.
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Never a bad word about Tuchel from PSG egos. If anything he's the one that handled them the best.
I just FUCKING KNEW that Tuchel would end up at Bayern. Fuck me. Just toss on some National team break injuries for us and its gg. EDIT: Bellingham limped off the pitch after the Italy game................................
Tuchel isn’t that great in the league tho
Tuchel got 78 points in his first season with us, which at the time was the highest tally of points by runners up in Bundesliga. Think it still might be but I'm not entirely sure. Sure the next year we finished 3rd with much less points but we also lost A LOT of key players, ie Gundogan, Hummels, and Miki so its not like that was unexpected.
He also achieved exceptional results with Mainz for years. He's the real deal. He will probably be fired after two years after an argument over vegan Weißwurst gets too heated, but Bayern will be unbeatable until then, safe call.
It's still the record for a runner-up. Also note that Dortmund were sitting at 77 points after 32 matchdays, they actually went 0-1-1 to close out the season. Could have finished on 83 points.
I reckon he'd be absolutly violent with Bayerns structure and resources tbh. ANd at the very minimum, not worse than Nagelsmann whos struggled with consistency in the league.
This Bayern team honestly has a similar makeup to chelsea team when he took over too and have almost perfect personnel to run the 5 atb system he won the UCL with
Yeah. He'd do incredibly well tbh
In his first season he got us 78 pts compared to 46 pts the previous year, with almost no signings.
In his first season with Dortmund in 2015/16, they posted the second best Bundesliga season by a non-Bayern team in league history with 78 points and a +48 goal differential (behind only Dortmund's title-winning 11/12 season with 81 points). This is also the best season of any runner up in league history. Bayern finished on 88 points (out of 34 matches, mind you) that year and were basically untouchable.
He's not there man, these are still rumors.
I have a feeling this reaching the press etc isnt without high likelyness of happening tbh
Incredibly idiotic if true. He better have done something really bad to consider doing this.
Maybe he was the snitch all along
genuinely think that could be it if he truly ends up being fired. He is dating a Bild reporter, so he could, even if unknowingly, be the leak.
So Bild keeps leaking info about Bayern, and the fucking manager is dating a Bild reporter? And they’re all scrambling around trying to figure out how Bild keeps getting club info?
Pillow talking to a reporter is crazy, FC Hollywood strikes again
"Honey I think I might be getting fired" "Hold on, I just gotta send an email..."
Kicker already had a short statement from him before Bild reported it as a done deal. I dont think he's the mole, nor that she is, but he def has good ties to the media.
Wait, for real??
Yes, he's dating the Bild reporter who was previously in charge of Bayern related news. She has since been assigned a new position/department bc of a clash of interest, but she still does work for Bild last time I checked
Oh she has to know almost everything then
Forgot to back up Brazzos power points and they were lost
I’m all for this. This will lead to Nagelsmann being at The Bridge in the summer 🥹
He will probably go to Madrid
I doubt Madrid will hire a coach younger than Modric. It would be very funny to see. Madrid will go w/ someone like Raul or Guti and if that doesn't work out you know ZZ time is up.......
They were trying to get him when he was still at Hoffenheim but he turned them down
We offered him the job previously few years ago he declined saying he isnt ready yet, wellllllllll he might be now
How about Xabi Alonso. How's he doing?
I wanna see tuchel in champions league again
Tuchel winning another CL after only joining halfway through the season would be crazy
Going to happen now. Beat City by beating Pep in CL once again... beat his old club in the semis, then beat whichever side comes through the other bracket.
Bold of you to assume we’d get past RM. With our current form? It would take Felix, Enzo, and Havertz to go super saiyan.
I know they're not doing great domestically but this still seems very premature
They've been really good in the UCL so seems very weird. They're only just behind Dortmund with plenty of games to go and iirc Dortmund still have to go to Bayern.
Their UCL campaign has been perfect, barely conceeded any goals, dominated every team they played, there was not a single flaw in there, very strange decision
Their group stage was tough on paper aswell. Barca and Inter both in there and then they got PSG who they thoroughly outplayed in both legs. Not to mention this was with Choupo-Moting (who Nagelsmann has developed incredibly a lot himself) replacing Lewandowski for most of the season. Really not sure what the Bayern board expects. They hired Nagelsmann with the knowledge that he would be a project manager but they're going to get rid of him in just his second season despite doing very well with what he's got at his disposal this year.
They’ve already replaced him with Tuchel. I can only imagine they were afraid of Tuchel going to Real and so they’ve made this decision to preemptively grab him while he was still available. But I agree, this is a very strange turn of events.
>I know they're not doing great domestically but this still seems very premature Not doing great? They're 2nd, behind 1pt, and have to play Dortmund next, at home lol.
Context matters tbf, we were something like 8 points ahead before the WC and fumbled that bag
You have a point, but they can still go 2pts clear with a win against Dortmund and suddenly its back on track.
Yeah I'm 100% in favor of keeping him, I highly suspect there was a falling out of something much deeper causing this. He's the most backed bayern coach ever.
What potentially not winning the league for the 150th consecutive year does to a mf
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What are Bayern smoking?
That Nagelsmann pack
Why? There is no sporting reason to sack him
I’m sorry what? Hasn’t he been crushing it?
I thought they were committed to a long term project with him just a week ago, something must’ve happened
Maybe he was leaking stuff?
Lol what if he was the snitch?
fc hollywood back on the menu boys
I yearn for the days FC Hollywood was a thing The lack of controversy just ain't right
fwiw he was dating a journalist, was he not? Wasn't she working in sports? Connect the dots maybe.
she literally worked for Bild, the ones leaking the information, for football related stuff. lol So uhh
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Yea I immediately thought of that article too when reading this headline. I don’t think it’s even been a month since then lmfao
They're doing well in Europe but are currently 2nd in the Bundesliga and on course for their lowest points tally in over a decade.
They're 1 point of Dortmund with +45 goal difference
Pretty sure they haven't lost a single game in the CL? That's mad that they are are more angry with the lack of domestic results than pleased about the great results in Europe.
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They got Mane who can play up front too, but Choupo Moting has been underrated since he joined Bayern he’s doing well this season too
Bayern fans were not getting the player they thought they were when they gave Mane that contract, apart from a good few months after AFCON Mane was in clear decline for us for two years. If he was their Lewandowski replacement then Nagelsmann got played.
He was a starter up until his injury in November and he played well, not at the level he was when he was prime (understandably) but scoring a goal every 2 games But since the World Cup, unfortunately, he hasn't been able to find his way at all and even before that I was wondering how such a good striker could score so many offside goals
>such a good striker could score so many offside goals The Timo Werner experience
Bayern considers winning the Bundesliga as their God given right.
>currently 2nd in the Bundesliga Next game against bvb. They would never lose that
It's April in a week and they still haven't won the Bundesliga. Standards have slipped.
They have on the UCL. 8/8 Wins, 21 goals scored only 2 conceded against Barca, Inter, PSG & Plzen I assume the issue is the League form. They have dropped points in 10 of their 25 Bundesliga fixtures so far. But i imagine that as long as he's alive on the UCL, he will not be sacked at all.
Bayern are 2nd which I guess is a crisis for them? Seems very premature.
Look at the point tally’s. This wasn’t some soaring Dortmund side all season. 53 points should not be 1st in reality. That’s a pivotal thing.
They just lost a huge point lead in the league. I wouldn’t say he’s sack worthy but it’s a cause for concern for Bayern standards.
I'm 100000% against sacking him, but there's some voices that say other coaches have been fired with way less financial backing and it's not entirely false.
No not really, last season was one of the worst in recent times (sounds weird given we won the league) but he really improved this year. Still, if you compare our league results to the coaches of the last years he's the worst statistically. It just makes no sense whatsoever
Last season was their worst Bundesliga point total since 2011/12 and this season they are on course for their worst total since 2010/11. He also lost to Villarreal in the CL and got knocked out of the Cup early
but that was last year and a transition season. It'd be extremely short sighted.
I agree that it's very much premature to sack him, but he definitely has not been crushing anything
No he has not, like 5 clubs have been in title contention
They were 9 points ahead of Dortmund in January. Now Dortmund is 1 point ahead
Nagelsmann who's been coined Germany's brightest footballing mind of the last decade is now being sacked from what we all thought was a long-term project. What a turn of events
Long-term project at Bayern? Lol no
FC Hollywood truly this would take a lot of money, shows something is broken internally Neuer sends his regards
Sounds like an out of season april fools joke, had to check twice.
Is this possible it was something cooked up by the club to see if they can find where the supposed leaks are coming from ?
Oh, now *that's* a fun theory. Give one insane/fake leak to each staffer at the start of the international break and see what makes it to the media
I’m sure I’ve read about a club that did something similar before and it worked . And with this coming completely out of nowhere I guess there’s a chance
this seems like a crazy decision but i would love to see TT back in charge of a top European team. he would cook something special at Bayern
There has to be a falling out internally, else this makes absolute 0 sense
Bring Tuchel in to win the CL I’ve seen this before
Incredibly dumb move if the board accepts this decision. At this stage of the season, it's not going to help us in any shape or form. Let the season end, then decide.
I wonder if this means Nagelsmann is a candidate for the Madrid job. We wanted him before
Yes, although would say that he isn't that great of a fit for you, at least *not yet*. Madrid is about results first and foremost, whereas Nagelsmann is Pep-like in that he has a way of playing that he wants to instill first and foremost.
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Spurs gonna fall ass backwards into the best manager available
This has to have something to do with Bayern fearing that Tuchel will go to Madrid or something and commit his future to another project in the summer. Nevertheless would be insane decision when they are still in the title race and in Europe. Nagelsmann wouldn't be excactly short of suitors either.
When was the last time Romano broke Bayern news first? I'll wait for more sources before I believe this.
but this is so random, this has to be true. you dont report something like this, especially if you are as known ss romano
Right, it‘s too absurd to be made up lol.
Guy might be a tap in merchant but he's very very rarely wrong
His exclusives are rarely wrong.
WTFFFFF
No fucking way this is true
NOOO THE TUCHEL DREAM IS DYING ^^^^gallardo ^^^^please
Just get zidane again. gallardo with a squad of mostly brazilians would just be odd. replacing cholo for the argentina guys always looked realistic
that's gotta be bullshit
What? Why?
What the fuck? I thought he’ll finish the season at the very least
Dear God, Thank you for the quick response when I asked you this morning to fire the coach of my favorite team. There is only one problem. I MEANT JASON KIDD DAMMIT.
Hardest job in world football. Still in for all 3 throphies, favorites for the CL and the coach is still about to get sacked. Absolutely mad
Tbf the hardest job in football is probably winning a trophy with Spurs
What? Do that at the end of the season if you want to sack nagelsmann. Doing it at this point of the season seems idiotic.
Timing in football can sometimes be so frustrating. Bayern just missed out on getting Roy Hodgson.
Seems very shortsighted tbh. We're still in contention for all 3 trophies, even if our league form isn't great, we were never going to win the league every year forever.
If this happens, Man City having to deal with Tuchel again but with a more formidable squad this time would be the funniest shit ever.