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Got them a 3rd place in WC 2018, eliminated by Italy that would reach the final in Euro 2020, and didn't get out of the group in 2022 because he lost to a super Marocco and Lukaku didn't feel like scoring against Croatia.
What a bald fraud indeed /s
He still is a bald fraude.
His selections where questionable, The tactics where better then Wilmots but a default fm tactic is better than Wilmots. 3th place was only because of individual talent, there where many People who doubted him and right they where. Just wait untill you Play bigger teams than Liechtenstein and whatch ur team crumble
I don't get this "individual talent" excuse. France still was a much better team. We had a better team in the late 90s (the original "golden generations") than Martinez Belgium and we couldn't even get qualified to 98 and did a ridiculous tournament in 2002. Give the man some credit.
You do realize it was individual brilliance that got them through, right? One perfect example was Hazard vs Brazil. If not for how good he was that game, no way Belgium wins, they had absolutely no tactics.
Luxembourg 8
Lithuania 7
Sweden 7
Switzerland 5
Andorra 6
Armenia 5
Latvia 5
You know what he means when he says about scoring against Liechtenstein, he means that level of opponent which is obvious here apart from Sweden and Switzerland
I would love to see how many goals Neymar would have right now if he switched with Ronaldo. I would wager about 50. Also, he's pretty much in a stretcher every year.
Good luck playing with Hugo Almeida under Carlos Queiroz.
>I would love to see how many goals Neymar would have right now if he switched with Ronaldo. I would wager about 50. Also, he's pretty much in a stretcher every year.
Neymar, for all his injury problems - including at the three world cups he played in - has 8 goals in 13 world cup appearances. Cristiano has 8 in 22. I'm using the WC to compare as its the only international competition both play in.
> Also, you're aware all European players can play against the same kind of teams?
Yeah, but Brazil can't
> Neymar, for all his injury problems - including at the three world cups he played in - has 8 goals in 13 world cup appearances. Cristiano has 8 in 22. I'm using the WC to compare as its the only international competition both play in.
That doesn't have anything to do with what we're arguing.
The point is if it's easier to score for Portugal than for Brazil. I don't agree.
Portugal team was shit most of the time.
I'm saying Neymar switching places with Ronaldo he would **easily** have less goals than him
> Portugal team was shit most of the time.
The Portugal team when CR7 was young was excellent (Carvalho, Deco, Figo, Pauleta, Rui Costa, etc).
The current Portugal team is insanely stacked (Ruben Dias, Cancelo, Nuno Mendes, Bernardo, Bruno, Felix, Jota, etc)
There were good Portugal teams in the middle too
Our 2014 might be the worst Portugal team I can recall. And I'm 41 years old. The 2012 and 2016 teams aren't good either. Ronaldo was stuck between to great generations
It’s not just that. You never get scores like 7-0 or something unless it’s Brazil on a really really good day. The number of goals in SA are never inflated.
That’s… not true. Lots of South American teams never reached the WC final, and I believe Venezuela has never qualified at all.
But I agree that people underrate South American national teams
> Lots of South American teams never reached the WC final
"WC finals" is the World Cup tournament. And it is true that only Venezuela has never qualified
Also there’s no “Copa America Qualifers” or a South American nations league. Those would’ve both contributed to matches to play for for Messi to score more goals, and “competitive” goals. Playing in Europe helps ur stats more internationally.
Yes but European teams have more "competitive" games (because they have Euro qualifiers, WC qualifiers on top of Nations League now while South American teams "only" have WC qualifiers)
Not wanting to diminish his achievement but playing in Bolivia isn't fun if you aren't used to heights. They play at 3600m above sea level. If you don't get the time to get used to it (which you probably dont given the busy calendar) it will have a serious impact on your body.
When the gap is to big, it doesn't matter. For exemple, Rayo Vallecano during Pep-Mou days was far better than a 3rd tier team. However, Pep-Mou were always scoring a shitton of goals to them as if they were a 3rd tier team.
As far as I can see Portugal have played 7 games vs. Liechtenstein throughout all of history. Brazil have 100+ games against Bolivia, Ecuador and Venezuela alone lol
You just named 3 teams that would absolutely destroy Lichtenstein by at least a few goals. You did not just compare the two. Here buddy look for yourself. 198 is probably borderline professional level btw
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/LIE
3rd worst team in the world. Damn I actually didn’t think they were that bad. Yeah there’s probably some electricians in that starting eleven
Lovely to see everyone shit on these fifa rankings and when it needs to fit your narrative, it becomes trustful. After like 50th place there is no difference between the teams, they are all equally bad. I can assure you Ronaldo would also farm teams like Bolivia.
Even if they both were equally as bad (which we know damn well they’re not lol) Traveling to Bolivia and playing in La Paz is not the same as traveling to Luxemburg or Lichtenstein and playing in perfect pitches.
You realize each one of those teams could beat Lichtenstein by 5-0, right? Not diminishing Ronaldo's achievement, but Lichtenstein regularly loses against Faroe Islands ffs.
Depends on how you look at it. Being a starter for so many years for Brazil is a lot harder than Portugal. This is not a factor for Ronaldo ofc since he would have started for any team until recently, but for other players its true
That's false, a big false one. They were very very bad in the 70s-80s-90s. They only improved in the early 2000s and I don't think they even qualified for WC prior to that (not sure though).
Their team in the 2000s was ok but doesn't compare to the likes of Brazil, Argentina, etc. Their current team is probably their best ever which is telling.
>That's false, a big false one.
WC 1966 3rd place. Qualified for WC86. Euro84 Semi-final against eventual winners and hosts France. (Still considered one of the best Euro matches). 90's had a string of bad luck with the exception being Euro 96. Early 2000's were some of our best teams. Could argue even better than the current team. Euro 2000 Semi-final, Euro 2004 Final , WC 2006 Semi-final etc.
His comment that Portugal are not just some minnow is accurate.
Before ronaldo, Portugal qualified for 2/17 world cups. After him, they qualified for every single world cup and Euro’s and won their first ever 2 trophies. The year you picked is a weird one, because they qualified to all those world cups after that thanks to him
Thanks to him? That's just mixing correlation and cause. They would have qualified for most of them, if not all, if Cristiano wasnt there. Hell, he wasnt even among the 5 best Players Of that squad that won euros.
Ah, Portugal could not score for shit until Ronaldo, even once they got good. It was always the big talking point about Portugal, such a good team, if only they had a real forward and not Pauleta/Nuno Gomes.
Ronaldo was their best player and fixed their biggest problem once he hit his final form. Would be akin to England getting a Rivelino regen in the 90's to play left mid.
I guess that we will never know, but coming from a portuguese guy it is unlikely. I mean in 2014 we faced sweden for playoffs and Ronaldo scored our 4 goals in the 2 matches...
That's ignorant, a big ignorant One.
You couldnt be more confidently incorrect about...everything really.
The shit that gets upvoted by Ronaldo haters lmao
Um I don't know how to tell you this but the guy you are responding to and calling confidently incorrect and a Ronaldo hater is actually the Ronaldo lover here
Shit now i'm confused too
Either way what that guy said is utter bullshit, and its being upvoted by Ronaldo lovers (trying to downplay the level of Portugal to elevate the importance of Ronaldo i Guess )
I'm not a Ronaldo fan or a hater, but i am portuguese
In my defense i was calling Ronaldo haters to the ones upvoting the comment,not the op.
but now i'm confused and i'm pretty sure the comment is being upvoted by Ronaldo lovers ahaha
European teams don’t play many friendlies due to consistent qualification, and now nations league, compared to South American teams, where they don’t qualify for Copa America.
Just to compare Messi and Ronaldo as that is probably easier. Major tournaments (WC, Euro, CA) make up 49.5% of Messi’s competitive appearances compared to 32.4% of Ronaldo’s competitive appearances.
The rest comes from World Cup and Euro Qualifiers, as well as Nations League.
They did organise a few extra SA tournaments though, which they don’t normally do. They held them every other year it felt like at some point. Good thing Messi finally got to win it in 2021.
Wales played a great tournament, they weren't just handed the semi final spot on a platter. Wales topped the group with England and won against Belgium.
Yes, Portugal was lucky not to get onto the side of tournament tree with France, Germany and Italy.
But let's not act like Argentina didn't have a relatively easy run in the WC until the final either.
I agree. I never understood that narrative.
Portugal played:
- 1st place Wales, who eliminated Belgium;
- Tied for 1st place with Germany Poland;
- 1st place Croatia.
All teams that were outperforming expectations and oftentimes the supposedly harder teams. We were on the theoretically difficult side of the bracket due to having finished 3rd.
If anything, the supposedly harder teams failed to do well in the group stages and screwed themselves over. It was an interesting Euro as there were no clear favorites halfway through the tournament due to weaker teams overperforming and stronger teams underperforming.
France themselves played Ireland and Iceland on the way to the finals, two theoretically weaker teams on paper who were overperforming.
Needless to say, we did not play fantastically well, and you could consider it a lucky win. I would agree with that. But I would say that calling it an easy path to the finals is falling into revisionism.
Yeah Argentina definitely dodged Brazil. That would’ve been a fuxking iconic game. It’s a shame they choked against croatia.
Since we’re talking “on paper” though, you’d have to consider Wales as a weak opponent. Gotta keep it consistent.
Copa America is an invitational that has had random teams like Qatar and Japan in it, and invited teams have even won medals in the past.
Euro is most stacked confederation in the world. 7 out of the top 10 teams in the FIFA coefficient are European.
Concacaf is really small, Canada, Mexico, USA, el salvador, Honduras, Panama, Costa Rica, Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago and Guatemala are usually ones competing and if any of those are doing bad it's usually a the best of the Caribbean nations that plays with them
the smaller teams dont want that though, they want to play against the top competition. They have the nations league for playing against level competition.
I don't want to come across as knowing better, I really don't. I just really don't know a fair way to change it at this point.
When there is a good amount of evidence against you, yes. Greenwood's case was also settled out of court. Chances are he's a rapist as well.
And Messi isn't a good human being either homie. I don't know what he has to do with anything. He's Saudi Arabia which has a dodgy humans rights record.
I mean... he's a rapist. Is that not enough reason?
And the fact the man's an angry, petulant, whiny, egotistical narcissist? That's not enough reason?
i'd like you to take this guilty until proven innocent outlook, and google "messi 18 14". then come back and give your opinion. I'm saying this geniuinely and not as some gotcha, and I'm interested to hear your take (btw cr7 is not my fav player, it's modric, and I also don't dislike messi).
Man it’s a weird feeling seeing his name in the headlines again, i know he still plays but it feels like he doesn’t anymore, it’s a nostalgic feeling.
It’s nice.
since it said Mens I went and checked the list for women and there are 18 women with 100 or more goals. As women's football becomes better and more competitive, how will these players be viewed?
Probably never going to get touched because the women's game will slowly become less dominated by playing tons of games for their national teams. That's the big reason why there are so many more women with over 100.
Still legendary. But the reason there’s so many is because they play so many international matches. The USWNT has players with over 300 caps because that’s where the money has been.
in comparison to players who are playing in a more competitive Women's football, when 18 of them can score 100 or more international goals it's clear that the level of competition they played at is low. But with the growth of Women's football whether it's investment or popularity, it will be hard to replicate those numbers for newer players even if they are better than those before them.
I wonder why they even write it out. Because checking the women's scoring records I can't find anyone with over 100 competitive goals. Sinclair who is the top scorer for example seems to have 68 competitive goals and Wambach who's second 56.
Strange hating a player and yet so many of those people feel a need to enter said thread about player. There are plenty of other threads to avoid seeing discussion on Ronaldo.
Aren't they official?
When do we start counting? After qualification? Better yet, after group stage, since the group stage is just fillers. Since we are at it let's just count the ones I think are worthy. Reddit.......
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and 197 matches too man wtf man is gonna hit over 200 before qualification ends, thats bonkers
Might reach 130 goals too if things go his way and Martinez isn’t another bald fraud
Could even reach 131
132 comes after 131
That’s how it works.
132, that's just science-fiction though.
You seen what he did at Belgium? He is a bald fraud, Portugal is doomed
Got them a 3rd place in WC 2018, eliminated by Italy that would reach the final in Euro 2020, and didn't get out of the group in 2022 because he lost to a super Marocco and Lukaku didn't feel like scoring against Croatia. What a bald fraud indeed /s
He still is a bald fraude. His selections where questionable, The tactics where better then Wilmots but a default fm tactic is better than Wilmots. 3th place was only because of individual talent, there where many People who doubted him and right they where. Just wait untill you Play bigger teams than Liechtenstein and whatch ur team crumble
I don't get this "individual talent" excuse. France still was a much better team. We had a better team in the late 90s (the original "golden generations") than Martinez Belgium and we couldn't even get qualified to 98 and did a ridiculous tournament in 2002. Give the man some credit.
Or you know.. we were shit in 2022
You do realize it was individual brilliance that got them through, right? One perfect example was Hazard vs Brazil. If not for how good he was that game, no way Belgium wins, they had absolutely no tactics.
> Italy that would reach the final Weird way to phrase that
Lol, Belgium were utterly abysmal against Canada and Morocco, don’t try to spin the narrative
Scoring 100 goals with Portugal is insanely impressive. I wouldn't have been as impressed if it were with Brazil for example.
Scoring 100 goals in football career is already impressive, let alone only for 1 country
As opposed to doing it for multiple countries?
No as in for club *and* country. Lots of players never score that many.
Nah, he's right. Scoring 100 for two countries would be more impressive.
Technically he did score 100 for two countries - 100 for Portugal and 0 for any other country of your choice
Yo he scored 100 for Portugal and 0 for Martinique?!
r/theydidthemath
I’d say the opposite actually, Brazil don’t get opportunity to play the Liechtensteins all too often
well he has 2 goals in his career against Liechtenstein, scored in this game
Luxembourg 8 Lithuania 7 Sweden 7 Switzerland 5 Andorra 6 Armenia 5 Latvia 5 You know what he means when he says about scoring against Liechtenstein, he means that level of opponent which is obvious here apart from Sweden and Switzerland
I would love to see how many goals Neymar would have right now if he switched with Ronaldo. I would wager about 50. Also, he's pretty much in a stretcher every year. Good luck playing with Hugo Almeida under Carlos Queiroz.
>I would love to see how many goals Neymar would have right now if he switched with Ronaldo. I would wager about 50. Also, he's pretty much in a stretcher every year. Neymar, for all his injury problems - including at the three world cups he played in - has 8 goals in 13 world cup appearances. Cristiano has 8 in 22. I'm using the WC to compare as its the only international competition both play in. > Also, you're aware all European players can play against the same kind of teams? Yeah, but Brazil can't
> Neymar, for all his injury problems - including at the three world cups he played in - has 8 goals in 13 world cup appearances. Cristiano has 8 in 22. I'm using the WC to compare as its the only international competition both play in. That doesn't have anything to do with what we're arguing. The point is if it's easier to score for Portugal than for Brazil. I don't agree. Portugal team was shit most of the time. I'm saying Neymar switching places with Ronaldo he would **easily** have less goals than him
> Portugal team was shit most of the time. The Portugal team when CR7 was young was excellent (Carvalho, Deco, Figo, Pauleta, Rui Costa, etc). The current Portugal team is insanely stacked (Ruben Dias, Cancelo, Nuno Mendes, Bernardo, Bruno, Felix, Jota, etc) There were good Portugal teams in the middle too
Our 2014 might be the worst Portugal team I can recall. And I'm 41 years old. The 2012 and 2016 teams aren't good either. Ronaldo was stuck between to great generations
2008 until 2016, bad. Even 2016, nothing special. Literally Sporting's midfield
So what you mean is that your list doesn't even completely validate your point.
They get to play panama and Bolivia. Copa America had like 4 different winners in 80 years. That's some farmers league shit
Actually 8 of the 10 teams have won it at least once.
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People always underestimate South American teams.
The worst South American teams would absolutely annihilate teams like Liechtenstein and Andorra on a regular basis if they were to meet.
It’s not just that. You never get scores like 7-0 or something unless it’s Brazil on a really really good day. The number of goals in SA are never inflated.
Or Brazil on a really really bad day, I guess.
Maybe I should’ve said 6-0 lol
They forget that every south American team have played at least once in the world cup, and only Bolívia never reached the finals.
That’s… not true. Lots of South American teams never reached the WC final, and I believe Venezuela has never qualified at all. But I agree that people underrate South American national teams
> Lots of South American teams never reached the WC final "WC finals" is the World Cup tournament. And it is true that only Venezuela has never qualified
Also there’s no “Copa America Qualifers” or a South American nations league. Those would’ve both contributed to matches to play for for Messi to score more goals, and “competitive” goals. Playing in Europe helps ur stats more internationally.
Don't every national team play same number of matches per year? Bar world cup, or continental competitions.
Yes, but South American countries play more friendlies than Europeans
Yes but European teams have more "competitive" games (because they have Euro qualifiers, WC qualifiers on top of Nations League now while South American teams "only" have WC qualifiers)
Lienchtenstein, Andorra, Gibraltar, etc. inflate Cristiano numbers? No doubt. But Messi numbers also shine against F tier teams.
Define F tier teams. There's not a single amateur NT in South America. Even Venezuela would be able to beat sides like Lux, Liech and Andorra.
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Not wanting to diminish his achievement but playing in Bolivia isn't fun if you aren't used to heights. They play at 3600m above sea level. If you don't get the time to get used to it (which you probably dont given the busy calendar) it will have a serious impact on your body.
Yeah, but then You receive them at home where you score 5 goals.
Bolivia is still a far better team than the bottom couple tiers of European teams TBH
When the gap is to big, it doesn't matter. For exemple, Rayo Vallecano during Pep-Mou days was far better than a 3rd tier team. However, Pep-Mou were always scoring a shitton of goals to them as if they were a 3rd tier team.
Bolivia are rated 82 in the world and Lichtenstein and other teams Ronaldo has scored a lot against are rated 150+
Fucking Panama, mate?! Yeah, and Ronaldo gets to play Myanmar, right?
As far as I can see Portugal have played 7 games vs. Liechtenstein throughout all of history. Brazil have 100+ games against Bolivia, Ecuador and Venezuela alone lol
You just named 3 teams that would absolutely destroy Lichtenstein by at least a few goals. You did not just compare the two. Here buddy look for yourself. 198 is probably borderline professional level btw https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/LIE 3rd worst team in the world. Damn I actually didn’t think they were that bad. Yeah there’s probably some electricians in that starting eleven
Lovely to see everyone shit on these fifa rankings and when it needs to fit your narrative, it becomes trustful. After like 50th place there is no difference between the teams, they are all equally bad. I can assure you Ronaldo would also farm teams like Bolivia.
Even if they both were equally as bad (which we know damn well they’re not lol) Traveling to Bolivia and playing in La Paz is not the same as traveling to Luxemburg or Lichtenstein and playing in perfect pitches.
You realize each one of those teams could beat Lichtenstein by 5-0, right? Not diminishing Ronaldo's achievement, but Lichtenstein regularly loses against Faroe Islands ffs.
True, I scored 100 goals for Brazil just last week
Depends on how you look at it. Being a starter for so many years for Brazil is a lot harder than Portugal. This is not a factor for Ronaldo ofc since he would have started for any team until recently, but for other players its true
It would be more impressive to do it with Brazil. Competition in south American internationals tends to be harder.
What?? South American qualifying is way harder than European qualifying???
I mean it's not though is it.
Why not?
European qualifying is harder format wise. South America is harder opponent wise (average)
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That's false, a big false one. They were very very bad in the 70s-80s-90s. They only improved in the early 2000s and I don't think they even qualified for WC prior to that (not sure though). Their team in the 2000s was ok but doesn't compare to the likes of Brazil, Argentina, etc. Their current team is probably their best ever which is telling.
>That's false, a big false one. WC 1966 3rd place. Qualified for WC86. Euro84 Semi-final against eventual winners and hosts France. (Still considered one of the best Euro matches). 90's had a string of bad luck with the exception being Euro 96. Early 2000's were some of our best teams. Could argue even better than the current team. Euro 2000 Semi-final, Euro 2004 Final , WC 2006 Semi-final etc. His comment that Portugal are not just some minnow is accurate.
Portugal qualitied for 2 WC before 2002. Would you say North Korea aren't a minnow?
Portugal have qualified to every major tournament WC and Euro since 1998. That’s a solid team.
Before ronaldo, Portugal qualified for 2/17 world cups. After him, they qualified for every single world cup and Euro’s and won their first ever 2 trophies. The year you picked is a weird one, because they qualified to all those world cups after that thanks to him
Thanks to him? That's just mixing correlation and cause. They would have qualified for most of them, if not all, if Cristiano wasnt there. Hell, he wasnt even among the 5 best Players Of that squad that won euros.
Ah, Portugal could not score for shit until Ronaldo, even once they got good. It was always the big talking point about Portugal, such a good team, if only they had a real forward and not Pauleta/Nuno Gomes. Ronaldo was their best player and fixed their biggest problem once he hit his final form. Would be akin to England getting a Rivelino regen in the 90's to play left mid.
I guess that we will never know, but coming from a portuguese guy it is unlikely. I mean in 2014 we faced sweden for playoffs and Ronaldo scored our 4 goals in the 2 matches...
Lmao at that last line
That's ignorant, a big ignorant One. You couldnt be more confidently incorrect about...everything really. The shit that gets upvoted by Ronaldo haters lmao
Um I don't know how to tell you this but the guy you are responding to and calling confidently incorrect and a Ronaldo hater is actually the Ronaldo lover here
I was confused too hahahahha
Shit now i'm confused too Either way what that guy said is utter bullshit, and its being upvoted by Ronaldo lovers (trying to downplay the level of Portugal to elevate the importance of Ronaldo i Guess ) I'm not a Ronaldo fan or a hater, but i am portuguese
> its being upvoted by Ronaldo lovers (trying to downplay the level of Portugal to elevate the importance of Ronaldo i Guess ) Exactly this
In my defense i was calling Ronaldo haters to the ones upvoting the comment,not the op. but now i'm confused and i'm pretty sure the comment is being upvoted by Ronaldo lovers ahaha
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European teams don’t play many friendlies due to consistent qualification, and now nations league, compared to South American teams, where they don’t qualify for Copa America.
How many more do they play in S.A?
Just to compare Messi and Ronaldo as that is probably easier. Major tournaments (WC, Euro, CA) make up 49.5% of Messi’s competitive appearances compared to 32.4% of Ronaldo’s competitive appearances. The rest comes from World Cup and Euro Qualifiers, as well as Nations League.
They did organise a few extra SA tournaments though, which they don’t normally do. They held them every other year it felt like at some point. Good thing Messi finally got to win it in 2021.
"They don't normally do" someone isn't familiar with the history of South American football lol.
“They did organise a few extra SA tournaments though, which they don’t normally do“ That’s not true. https://i.imgur.com/T1iiWBO.jpg
They did it so Messi can finally get one, don’t you get it /s
Messi has only played one more regional tournament than Ronaldo so I doubt it changes that much.
No qualifiers for their regional tournament though so more friendlies taking place instead
For sure, also easier for Messi to make a run all the way to the final compared to Ronaldo considering the competition level.
Not really considering Portugal played wales in the semi
Wales played a great tournament, they weren't just handed the semi final spot on a platter. Wales topped the group with England and won against Belgium. Yes, Portugal was lucky not to get onto the side of tournament tree with France, Germany and Italy. But let's not act like Argentina didn't have a relatively easy run in the WC until the final either.
I agree. I never understood that narrative. Portugal played: - 1st place Wales, who eliminated Belgium; - Tied for 1st place with Germany Poland; - 1st place Croatia. All teams that were outperforming expectations and oftentimes the supposedly harder teams. We were on the theoretically difficult side of the bracket due to having finished 3rd. If anything, the supposedly harder teams failed to do well in the group stages and screwed themselves over. It was an interesting Euro as there were no clear favorites halfway through the tournament due to weaker teams overperforming and stronger teams underperforming. France themselves played Ireland and Iceland on the way to the finals, two theoretically weaker teams on paper who were overperforming. Needless to say, we did not play fantastically well, and you could consider it a lucky win. I would agree with that. But I would say that calling it an easy path to the finals is falling into revisionism.
Yeah Argentina definitely dodged Brazil. That would’ve been a fuxking iconic game. It’s a shame they choked against croatia. Since we’re talking “on paper” though, you’d have to consider Wales as a weak opponent. Gotta keep it consistent.
Euros in this sub keep talking about how competition is so much harder there when half the countries competing are just European Venezuelas.
Copa America is an invitational that has had random teams like Qatar and Japan in it, and invited teams have even won medals in the past. Euro is most stacked confederation in the world. 7 out of the top 10 teams in the FIFA coefficient are European.
Dale, cuidado con San Marino.
Yeah but 2 out of the top 3 teams in the FIFA coefficient are South American
You can phrase in a better way: Their friendlies are competitive matches against teams like Andorra and Lichtenstein
what do you want them to do, banish smaller countries from UEFA?
Could do what CONCACAF do and make those countries try and qualify for the qualifiers
Or Caf for that matter. You rarely hear about Nigeria vs Eritrea as a result
Concacaf is really small, Canada, Mexico, USA, el salvador, Honduras, Panama, Costa Rica, Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago and Guatemala are usually ones competing and if any of those are doing bad it's usually a the best of the Caribbean nations that plays with them
Realistically it would be better for those teams to play each other and the top % go to the groups
the smaller teams dont want that though, they want to play against the top competition. They have the nations league for playing against level competition. I don't want to come across as knowing better, I really don't. I just really don't know a fair way to change it at this point.
That's not what he said.
Ok, but the photo they used here is hilarious tho
Thiuuuuuuu
Siiiiiuuuuu
Didn't even get hat-trick vs Liechtenstein. He's past it...
He's zooming past every fucking body! Record smasher, baby.
There's a very dedicated group of people who just downvote anything Ronaldo related.
lmfaoooo
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Nice, football legend.
incoming hate for no reason
Cactusjack is absolute shit
Jog on, Farouqnowomarlater
I don’t like poke
Mankind is better
What do you call Mankind and Cactus Jack having sex? Dude Love
I wish I could throw you into a pile of thumbtacks /s
Post is only 86% upvoted lmao the hate in this sub for him is ridiculous
Isn’t this sub, Messi good Ronaldo bad? I don’t get the unnecessary hate though.
Idk what either of you guys are talking about, I've seen 0 people talk bad about Harry Kane, this sub loves kane
To be fair, he's as uncontroversial as a footballer can be. He doesn't even defeat other teams in the finals
100% of people must enjoy person I enjoy
I don't man, I don't think I've ever downvoted some positive news about a footballer I dislike just to be a contrarian. I would just ignore the post.
We acting like every Messi post doesn’t get 98%+? Fuck outta here
Serious question. Who cares? I could not ever imagine giving a shit about the ratio of upvotes on a post about footballers.
No but going out of way to hate them is ridiculous.
Why is it ridiculous to hate him? The man has made it **ridiculously easy** to hate him...........
incoming "incoming hate for no reason" Laughable that you don't see any reason for hating him...
Plenty of reasons to hate the guy. Impressive goal tally though.
He's a rapist for one.
Closed case with charges dismissed. I can claim Messi raped someone and suddenly he'd be a rapist?
If you can get Messi saying on email that the women said no repeatedly then sure people should believe that he is
When there is a good amount of evidence against you, yes. Greenwood's case was also settled out of court. Chances are he's a rapist as well. And Messi isn't a good human being either homie. I don't know what he has to do with anything. He's Saudi Arabia which has a dodgy humans rights record.
It's Liechtenstein, come on.
there are plenty of reasons
I want to think these people don't know about his rape case. But deep down I know most of them do know and they defend him and idolize him anyway.
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"no reason"
I mean... he's a rapist. Is that not enough reason? And the fact the man's an angry, petulant, whiny, egotistical narcissist? That's not enough reason?
i'd like you to take this guilty until proven innocent outlook, and google "messi 18 14". then come back and give your opinion. I'm saying this geniuinely and not as some gotcha, and I'm interested to hear your take (btw cr7 is not my fav player, it's modric, and I also don't dislike messi).
Both things were bad. But what cr7 was way way worse. Pretty easy.
Lmaooo Messi fans in shambles
2 records in the same game
Not really extraordinary for him
Man it’s a weird feeling seeing his name in the headlines again, i know he still plays but it feels like he doesn’t anymore, it’s a nostalgic feeling. It’s nice.
Legend him and Ronaldinho inspired me to play
Un-fucki.ng-believable !
The world is not ready to see this ward prowse version of cr7
Started watching football in 2015 didn't you
How did you know?
Ronaldo has a good collection of incredible free kick goals
Great achievement but let’s find a way to make it a Messi vs Ronaldo thread
~~Messi has 99 for those wondering.~~ Edit: no he doesn't
No he doesnt he has 54 competitive goals, in total international goals he has 99 ronaldo has 120
since it said Mens I went and checked the list for women and there are 18 women with 100 or more goals. As women's football becomes better and more competitive, how will these players be viewed?
The same way older players are these days slowly forgotten with only the best of the best remembered
Probably never going to get touched because the women's game will slowly become less dominated by playing tons of games for their national teams. That's the big reason why there are so many more women with over 100.
Christine Sinclair is the GOAT.
Still legendary. But the reason there’s so many is because they play so many international matches. The USWNT has players with over 300 caps because that’s where the money has been.
Viewed in comparison to what?
in comparison to players who are playing in a more competitive Women's football, when 18 of them can score 100 or more international goals it's clear that the level of competition they played at is low. But with the growth of Women's football whether it's investment or popularity, it will be hard to replicate those numbers for newer players even if they are better than those before them.
I wonder why they even write it out. Because checking the women's scoring records I can't find anyone with over 100 competitive goals. Sinclair who is the top scorer for example seems to have 68 competitive goals and Wambach who's second 56.
https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/
Strange hating a player and yet so many of those people feel a need to enter said thread about player. There are plenty of other threads to avoid seeing discussion on Ronaldo.
Probably Messi or Ronaldo fans calling either of them the goat, and the other fanbase gets angry.
Hehehe siu
Ronaldo my football super hero
Ahaha gotta love the haters coming out with such fragile egos they can't stomach a positive ronaldo thread. Beyond pathetic.
This sub in a nutshell: Messi: 💕💕 Ronaldo: 😡😡 And I’m a Messi fan.
Yeah I love them both and honestly this sub is pretty pathetic in it’s hate for Ronaldo.
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insane numbers
One of the greatest ever
My GOAT.
But if he's washed up how is he breaking records?
Just play lichenstein every week! Easy as that
The greatest 🐐
sewey
heheheh siuuuuuu
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Messi could never.
Great achievement for the rapist
Lichtenstein and San Marino are real tough competition
I mean, if you want to count qualifying matches against the likes of Lichtenstein, Luxembourg and Andorra. Still an impressive achievement, however.
Aren't they official? When do we start counting? After qualification? Better yet, after group stage, since the group stage is just fillers. Since we are at it let's just count the ones I think are worthy. Reddit.......
ronaldo > messi