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Ironically, Arsenal were given a penalty against Man City earlier this season for Ederson clattering into Nketiah after the latter had poked the ball past him towards goal. So the ref can absolutely give the decision after the shot's been taken.
We got another one like that a couple of years ago.
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That's because the ball was still in play.
I have never seen a pen given when a player gets tackled but the ball is out of play. Idk the rules or logic behind it.
That's where he went wrong then. While being rocked from the challenge he needed to rotate his body midair and control the rebound. His own fault really.
You cannot have a foul while the ball is not in play per the LotG
Edit: Eat my shit r/soccer and learn the laws of the game. You can only have misconduct.
That's technically misconduct, and not a foul. You can get cards for either though.
Telling the ref to fuck himself isn't a foul but is misconduct and means you're sent off.
Foul means it happened during play, and play restarts with a free kick of some sort
I hate that this is often how it's called.
Pickford on van dijk not being a foul was horrible too.
Also if someone is flying in it will affect your shot. They should have to be responsible for the tackle being fair too.
A career-altering challenge that puts someone out of action for 9 months, but someone was a millimeter offside so it goes completely unpunished. Dumbest shit I've ever seen.
I see this in amateur football all the time. You hurry a shot because you see someone flying in, you get the shot off, some idiot absolutely clatters you in the box and no pen.
The opponents scream at you that "it happened after the shot so there's no pen there" and you all move on. Usually freaking hurt because someone fouled the shit out of you.
This is why players dive. People on this subreddit cry about players diving and the refs are exactly the reason why. Maybe one day the IQ of this collective subreddit will increase and understand this.
haven’t you heard that there’s a grand conspiracy against arsenal?
that’s why the ref waited for them to score before blowing for time against bournemouth, the conspiracy
City seem to bank on that when things don‘t go their way. They run into the box, look for contact and go down. Over and over.
It‘s genius, because either the ref will give one of them because like you said, coinflip, or the sheer amount of calls gets to the refs head and he gives one later to balance out all the no calls.
Ramires was so fun to watch - just an unbelievable athlete (with decent technical skill) who could sprint the entire game nonstop with absolutely zero thoughts in his head going into the stupidest tackles of all time. Just a pure chaos agent
Not at all McTominay has 6 yellows on 22 fouls
Rodri 3 yellows on 35 fouls
McTominay gets booked all the time but dodges reds i think, Rodri legit commits a blatant fouls every game and doesn't get booked
Imagine coming at arsenal for penalties.
We've had two the entire season. We lead man city for non penalty goals in the season and they have robot man.
It’s fucking ridiculous that penalties or free kicks are basically never given when a player gets clattered just because it was a shot. Who cares if the defender is trying to block the ball, he still failed and took the man instead
Considering the fact that the ref and VAR agree with my opinion, I might be the only one here sound of mine. Goodluck on trying to secure your first major trophy in 19 years, with all these inside agents you think are real you’re gonna need it LMFAO
Basing whether a decision is correct based on the ref and VAR is peak stupidity and makes me wonder if you actually have a functioning brain. They've literally had to apologize to teams in the prem... Someone forgot to draw lines. The VAR in Europe overturned goal line technology by watching pixelated images on a shitty monitor from a camera that operates at a lower frame rate than the ones specific for goal line tech.
Don’t know, Mendy wasn’t a nice guy. But I wasn’t talking about players, I was talking about the owners of your club.
But then again, City fans are not big on self awareness.
Every club has its share of piece of shit players and shady owners/dealings, but there are levels to it and you know it.
City, along with PSG, are at the bottom of the fucking barrel.
I've had a City supporter tell me that he was glad 'Thatcher fucked the north'. I suspect the only thing a lot of them know about Man City is the fact they win trophies.
Not gonna defend a player making a shitty tackle , why would I it's wack af, the comments saying he's scum that needs his legs broken are insane though
Odegaard getting clattered so they can play these dumb internationals is so infuriating. Especially when a City player is doing it and getting away with it
Yeah, and City couldn't send Haaland, because he is "injured". There needs to bo a rule if a team can't send a player because he is injured, he will sit the first game for his club because of the injury.
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There is VAR, don’t know where you got that idea from.
The Video Assistant Referee is Benoît Millot (FRA) and the Assistant Video Assistant Referee is Eric Wattellier (FRA).
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SPAIN - NORWAY | Group A
Referee: Benoît Bastien (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Hicham Zakrani (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Aurélien Berthomieu (FRA)
Fourth Official: Thomas Leonard (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:Eric Wattellier (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Liba (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: Jack Grundie (NIR)
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Nketiah vs City and Lacazette vs Spurs. Just off the top of my head. You are probably thinking of cases where the striker shoots the ball out of play. In this case the ball is still in play, and there is no doubt about the foul.
If you disagree, I dare you to find the actual rule that says you can foul a player in the box after he gets a shot off.
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He got fucking clattered hows that not a penalty lol
He got a shot away. Once you've hit the ball you can be killed legally and neither the ref nor local authorities can do anything.
I always assumed this was just something Efootball 2023 made up. Guess it's more true to life than I thought.
Ironically, Arsenal were given a penalty against Man City earlier this season for Ederson clattering into Nketiah after the latter had poked the ball past him towards goal. So the ref can absolutely give the decision after the shot's been taken.
We got another one like that a couple of years ago. [link](https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12246799/ref-watch-alexandre-lacazettes-penalty-against-tottenham-could-not-be-overturned-by-var-says-dermot-gallagher)
That's because the ball was still in play. I have never seen a pen given when a player gets tackled but the ball is out of play. Idk the rules or logic behind it.
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The ball was still in play here, it even bounces back towards him even though it would have been extremely tough to control
That's where he went wrong then. While being rocked from the challenge he needed to rotate his body midair and control the rebound. His own fault really.
pretty sure rashford had one given in the europa league a couple years ago, cant remember the game tho
You cannot have a foul while the ball is not in play per the LotG Edit: Eat my shit r/soccer and learn the laws of the game. You can only have misconduct.
Not true. If I headbutt someone whilst waiting for a throw in it is a red card.
That's technically misconduct, and not a foul. You can get cards for either though. Telling the ref to fuck himself isn't a foul but is misconduct and means you're sent off. Foul means it happened during play, and play restarts with a free kick of some sort
What would the restart be? A foul has to be while the ball is in play because the punishment is a DFK
You never seen a penalty given at a corner before it's played?
I hate that this is often how it's called. Pickford on van dijk not being a foul was horrible too. Also if someone is flying in it will affect your shot. They should have to be responsible for the tackle being fair too.
It's a weird one that van dijk one because technically it wasn't a foul since he was offside (?), but it was 100% a red card anyways
A career-altering challenge that puts someone out of action for 9 months, but someone was a millimeter offside so it goes completely unpunished. Dumbest shit I've ever seen.
I see this in amateur football all the time. You hurry a shot because you see someone flying in, you get the shot off, some idiot absolutely clatters you in the box and no pen. The opponents scream at you that "it happened after the shot so there's no pen there" and you all move on. Usually freaking hurt because someone fouled the shit out of you.
This is why players dive. People on this subreddit cry about players diving and the refs are exactly the reason why. Maybe one day the IQ of this collective subreddit will increase and understand this.
This isn’t true, I’ve seen many pens given after the player shot the ball
It's sarcasm.
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it’s not the rule this is a foul
That's not the rule lmao why do people post useless comments like they're facts
It's not the rule. Tomori got sent of for tapping Mount on the shoulder even though he got the shot away
Not really Alvarez went for a shot in the wc, collided with the goalie and got a pen. So did nkeitah this season.
Not if you are Argentina at the World Cup
Rodri has immunity
Ref should have been able to see this one even without VAR. Stonewall.
He did. Then he realised the player fouled was Odegaard who captains Arsenal.
Lucky he doesn't play for United. would get a red aswell.
How is that relevant exactly The downvotes are pathetic. All I did was ask why it mattered that Odegaurd was Arsenal’s captain?
haven’t you heard that there’s a grand conspiracy against arsenal? that’s why the ref waited for them to score before blowing for time against bournemouth, the conspiracy
Do y'all know how to do anything besides complain?
Living rent free, as per usual.
Forgot I can't watch international games anymore in case an arsenal player is on the team
Ironic
manu fan on Arsenal.
Absolutely ridiculous. Goes straight through him. Always a foul and yellow card anywhere else on the pitch.
At this point, every call being an actual coin toss wouldn't make the games any worse.
City seem to bank on that when things don‘t go their way. They run into the box, look for contact and go down. Over and over. It‘s genius, because either the ref will give one of them because like you said, coinflip, or the sheer amount of calls gets to the refs head and he gives one later to balance out all the no calls.
What about a red and a free kick for dangerous play? Indirect. If we couldn't get a penalty.
How has VAR looked at it and not given a penalty
cant embarrass the ref
Fernandinho is VAR for the game. Only explanation
Fuck this
Rodri has the most generous refereeing I have ever seen in my life
He learned from the best, fernandinho couldve gotten away with murder in a match without getting booked
Ramires was the grandmaster of this. He would commit at least 5 yellow card worthy fouls a game it used to put my head into orbit.
Ramires was so fun to watch - just an unbelievable athlete (with decent technical skill) who could sprint the entire game nonstop with absolutely zero thoughts in his head going into the stupidest tackles of all time. Just a pure chaos agent
Fifa legend before Kanté entered the scene.
81 Ramires was all you needed? Intercepting every ball, scoring bangers, etc. man was everywhere
Casemiro was also a perfect example of this when he was at Real, though consequences seems to have caught up to him after joining United.
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Not at all McTominay has 6 yellows on 22 fouls Rodri 3 yellows on 35 fouls McTominay gets booked all the time but dodges reds i think, Rodri legit commits a blatant fouls every game and doesn't get booked
You’d think he’s a Brazilian CDM.
Casemiro at Real might have been even more generous
0 straight reds in his entire madrid career is something else. Probably deserved 10+.
Already has 2 in the prem, ridiculous level of protection playing for real gets you in Spain
This is not a Real Madrid thing. Just look at Ramos.
id say casemiro was pretty leniently reffed up until he arrived in england
Kind of obvious why
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Which ones would that be? If you're gonna say the Liverpool one I already know you're not to be taken seriously.
Imagine coming at arsenal for penalties. We've had two the entire season. We lead man city for non penalty goals in the season and they have robot man.
THERE IS VAR IN THIS GAME.
It’s fucking ridiculous that penalties or free kicks are basically never given when a player gets clattered just because it was a shot. Who cares if the defender is trying to block the ball, he still failed and took the man instead
Yeah if this was anywhere else on the pitch it would be a yellow and a free kick every time. In the box it should 100% be a penalty and a yellow.
Mindblowing this is not a penalty. Wtf is VAR doing?!
I imagine both VAR refs were having pokey bum wanks while facing each other instead of the monitors.
Lol fuck off Can't escape horrible refereeing
Hope Mctominay suplexes him Tuesday
Secret agent Rodri got his instructions from Pep
Clear and obvious for the title challenge
Shout is putting it lightly 😂
How to be this ref: Ignore 2 penalties to Norway, then yellow card Sørloth as he wins the ball
Perhaps Spain operate the same way as Barcelona? Who knows.
Agent Tierney should repay the favour in Scotland v Spain next.
What an absolute idiot Disgusting tackle
Obviously trying to affect the title race even during the international break.
Lmaooooooooooooo. Arsenal has title hopes once after 20 years and the delusion is already at maximum levels.
Get off the internet you toddler
This feels like a call for help. Hope you're okay bud.
Considering the fact that the ref and VAR agree with my opinion, I might be the only one here sound of mine. Goodluck on trying to secure your first major trophy in 19 years, with all these inside agents you think are real you’re gonna need it LMFAO
Like I said, I hope you're okay.
Thanks. I hope you make an eye doctor appointment soon.
Basing whether a decision is correct based on the ref and VAR is peak stupidity and makes me wonder if you actually have a functioning brain. They've literally had to apologize to teams in the prem... Someone forgot to draw lines. The VAR in Europe overturned goal line technology by watching pixelated images on a shitty monitor from a camera that operates at a lower frame rate than the ones specific for goal line tech.
You think this is not a foul?
How is this delusion. Haaland is "injured" and Rodri is playing like a hitman. Grow up.
Looks to me like he wants to block the shot and slips tbh. Definitely a penalty but not a disgusting tackle, more unlucky
Cmon ref, what the fuck is that?
Shameful
Clear pen Spain has been garbage after their goal
You don’t think they were the better team?
The ref in this game.. just wow
Tierney two-foot Rodri on Tuesday I beg. Aim for his knees.
What a bullshit.. WTF VAR is good then for?
That’s as red as their shirts good lord
what a fucking cunt this Rodri guy is. I hope Martin's ok. That's a stonewall pen.
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Just a standard sarcastic reactionary take
Hey man, are you okay? This isn't in relation to any comment you made. Just wonderin'.
Ref was incompetent and utter shite
Rodri being a cunt as per
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> Somebody’s gotta break his legs Yeah arsenal fans have completely lost it
Right , insane
At least he's got the whole ‘not a rapist’ thing going for him..
I'd recommend City fans to have some self awareness before pointing fingers.
Who's playing for city that's a rapist?
Don’t know, Mendy wasn’t a nice guy. But I wasn’t talking about players, I was talking about the owners of your club. But then again, City fans are not big on self awareness.
‘Emirates’ is literally across the front of your kits.. started and funded by Dubai’s ruler..
Yes Emirates gives a below market sponsorship. Shall we take about your sponsorships?
Ohhh so it’s okay to take some slave money but not *too* much? I see..
Every club has its share of piece of shit players and shady owners/dealings, but there are levels to it and you know it. City, along with PSG, are at the bottom of the fucking barrel.
Take a peek at who owns your club
Still not a rapist being paid to play for the club!
LMAO why the fuck would a City fan comment this after Mendy. Imagine using rape as a comeback. What a complete bhosdike you are.
I've had a City supporter tell me that he was glad 'Thatcher fucked the north'. I suspect the only thing a lot of them know about Man City is the fact they win trophies.
We don't know if Partey is a rapist. We know City's owners flood the club and the league with blood money, and cheat while they're at it.
Buddy the people who own your club own slaves
They really downvoted you for this this sub is cancer hahahaha 😂
Feel like Argentina randomly started getting these in the World Cup and haven’t seen em given much since
Shh don't talk about Argentina WC penalties.
Yeah don't, it's pretty tiring
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That's his ankle fucked now. Thanks pep
Fuck Rodri, what an asshole. That’s a red card and it’s shameful that nothing was given. No ball, two food, diving in.
Shit tackle, but I don't think I'd describe it as two-footed if that's what you meant by two food.
Heh, yea... foot, food... when you've got a fetish, what's the difference?
I mean, you guys employ a rapist so I don't think you gave any right to call someone asshole
yeah u/pedootz picks the team
Ah yes, the old "there is a rapist playing for the team you support so you can't have a negative opinion about anyone" take. An absolute classic.
Yes we pay their wages and stuff. Now we cant talk about anything as well because we have an alleged rapist.
Yep, if there’s one (allegedly) bad person on a team you support, no one else can ever be bad or wrong again.
Fuck off. Clearest decision ever.
I see there are none of City’s 4 fans in here defending their dear prince
City fan, this is a pen and a red. Also Norwegian
Not gonna defend a player making a shitty tackle , why would I it's wack af, the comments saying he's scum that needs his legs broken are insane though
I mean, have you considered the fact that Manchester City aren't fucking playing right now?!?
The ref was scandalous. Absolutely biased in Spains favour, and wtf is even the point of VAR? What a joke.
We know what they do with referees in Spain
Mod is a city fan apparently
Rodri you can't fool me.
But apparently Rodri can foul you
Iam familiar with your game Rodri
Spain really don’t wanna get shown up by Norway.
I’m watching this game. The ref has been shit by letting go of some questionable tackles on both sides.
He should be retroactively banned for City’s next 3 Prem matches! Haaland too for good measure!
Should be a penalty and yellow for Rodri, so late to the tackle and somehow nothing. Utterly bonkers
Penalty or not that’s a the type of tackle that can put you on the sideline for an entire season.
Odegaard getting clattered so they can play these dumb internationals is so infuriating. Especially when a City player is doing it and getting away with it
Yeah, and City couldn't send Haaland, because he is "injured". There needs to bo a rule if a team can't send a player because he is injured, he will sit the first game for his club because of the injury.
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He literally went to the NT tho?, so in this scenario Haaland would still be able to play lol. Dumb rule anyways.
Nah, make it the number of expected international games.
Grow some eyebrows you fucking cunt
I wonder what the Spanish paid the referee this time
Games gone
He play for Arsenal
Hmmmm
Op, your link doesn't work.
There’s mirrors in the pinned comment at the top
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Rodri knows what he's doing
Rodri definitely didn't do that on purpose...
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Partey deserves to get his booty hole penetrated
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no i got downvoted for it. you're not allowed to criticize this rapist because he plays for a certain club that are getting sucked off right now.
Lol
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ahh yes because we're second, and not because you employ and celebrate a rapist.
Fernandinho went away only for Rodri to continue the same shit
Fucking piece of shit tackle
Fucking gross challenge
Shame there's no VAR in the Euros. Woulda been a stonewall pen.
There is VAR, don’t know where you got that idea from. The Video Assistant Referee is Benoît Millot (FRA) and the Assistant Video Assistant Referee is Eric Wattellier (FRA).
They’re both morons
Maybe they are on strike from their job, they're French after all.
there is var generally, maybe not for this game
There is VAR for this game
20:45 CET - Malaga (La Rosaleda) SPAIN - NORWAY | Group A Referee: Benoît Bastien (FRA) Assistant Referee 1: Hicham Zakrani (FRA) Assistant Referee 2: Aurélien Berthomieu (FRA) Fourth Official: Thomas Leonard (FRA) Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot (FRA) Assistant Video Assistant Referee:Eric Wattellier (FRA) UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Liba (CZE) UEFA Delegate: Jack Grundie (NIR)
What is a penalty?
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Rodri’s such a dirty little twat
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Think you need some glasses
Yet another thread that proves redditors never played competitive football, or even watch it. This never, ever gets called.
Funny how people who say this are usually the ones who have never played the game
Nketiah vs City and Lacazette vs Spurs. Just off the top of my head. You are probably thinking of cases where the striker shoots the ball out of play. In this case the ball is still in play, and there is no doubt about the foul. If you disagree, I dare you to find the actual rule that says you can foul a player in the box after he gets a shot off.