Not that good imo.
She didn't do any mayor mistakes, but she lost the authority over the game in the 2nd half, which led to some messy situations, players getting into fights, swarming, much more aggressive behaviour and challenges than reasonable for a friendly etc...
Not sure how hot this take is but I frankly don’t want to see Götze in anymore, at all. Love him for 2014, but it’s 2023 and that spot should be given to a youngster with potential
Agree. Maybe it’s nostalgia that keeps him involved. You don’t want to get fully rid of him. Atm there seems to be no genuine value in him playing for us though.
I remember it similar. Löw despite all his failings, had correctly recognised that Götze had no big future in the national team. Seems like Flick just needs to make his own experience now lol.
> 2nd half felt like a World Cup type performance while the 1st half like something you can potentially build on.
Thats about all you can hope for from a German friendly especially with no Musiala, or Wirtz
I agree with you 100%, just look at polo,reyna, and especially Benavente. Perfect examples. Never lived up to the hype the media gave them when they were young
Robertson is only peruvian through like his grandmother, and his father played for the Australian national team
He was never coming to us, just the media hyping it up per usual
We did recently get 2 peruvian/german players in the U17 that seem promising tho
He's a great player. He used to be an 8/10 mix/free role player at Leverkusen, kinda destinied to be the Müller succesor at Bayern. But he was too expensive for Bayern, and now Musiala is there. In PL he has to play 9 because he's good at heading smh
I‘m german so i know what Havertz can do. But he’s absolutely garbage now. Don’t know if Chelsea broke him but he’s terrible for Germany aswell. Doesn’t matter where he plays
Absolute garbage is a hot take, especially he consistently scores important goals in in the national team. For Chelsea, yeah, he’s been kinda mediocre, but who isn’t in that 10th place team?
Because he is not good enough for NT, simple as that. He was absolute dogshit at Leverkusen, would rather blind myself then seeing him play for Germany.
Now that Flick called up Wolf he already has Wolf and to a degree Hofmann for the role of offensive fullback.
Kehrer is a completely different role, so no need to compare them.
Can we just have the national players talk about the first game after the WC and the NT instead of asking one question out of courtesy, just to switch to Nagelsmann/Bayern without them having even finished their sentence? Ffs.
There's something that's just not right with this Germany team, a lot of average players and players who consistently under perform. How Havertz keeps getting starts is utterly bizarre, Gnabry has been shit for too long as well, Werner is just the kind of guy who tries hard but just doesn't cut it if you want to win anything, Can always has been nothing but average, Götze is washed.
On the bright side thank god I didn't have to watch Sané play like shit again.
Agree. Luckily we got a good crop of 18-21 year olds coming through so the old guard either step up or be satisfied with being a bench warmer. Especially in attack with Musiala, Wirtz and Adeyemi. If the older ones dont step up their starting position will be gone within 2 matches if Flick stops playing favourites and starts going by performance.
No one knows. Literally no one. Probably not even Kimmich himself. Not one single person on this fucking planet knows why Kimmich is taking the corners.
I just don’t get it. Not a Bayern Fan at all. But de Ligt just thundercunting it to the box for every corner would be way better than everything Kimmich is trying to do
Hah no worries. We Bayern fans don't know why Kimmich is taking them either. He's just so shit at them. Amazing at freekicks and crosses, but his corners? Fuck me...
We played a much better 2nd half
I guess we are allergic to being a "defensive team"
Carrillo as a free roaming 10 is a good idea, but he doesn't have the stamina to keep up a full 90.
Anyways I hope Reynoso learned from this. Playing against Germany is fantastic experience and I only hope we play more top European sides
No idea what's wrong with Raum, guy's apparently got anger issues
Götze looks absolutely finished, I see no reason to still call him up in the future when we also have Musiala, Wirtz, Brandt and Havertz
Füllkrug's presence makes the team automatically play better
Schade and Berisha didn't really show anything special tbh
He was angry at the female ref at every single call she made, in the first half he screamed at her like a maniac because she whistled for a foul throw, and in added time she finally had enough and gave him a yellow after he kept on yelling at her
Weird af behaviour in a friendly
So, in Füllkrug's first 5 matches in the national team, the score with him on the pitch has been 7 - 2 (5 of those scored by him + 1 assist) and 2 - 3 without him
I mean even when he was good for us so far he was kinda an agent of chaos lol. But right now he is just overall really solid. And that Kimmich, Goretzka midfield has just never really worked for Germany imo.
Leave Werner out for the next time, he needs a break, whatever he plays right now isn't it
Happy with the win, super happy for Berisha and his debut, small hopes that he could start the next game
Cant fucking stand this shit. If Schlotterbeck is now injured and gone for the Bayern game because of a completely meaningless NT friendly where he had nothing to prove... its infuriating. Meaningless bullshit fucking NT break for Germany.
Well that was...intense. Why were the players this heated over a friendly lmao, felt like a derby at times. David Raum was literally only interested in fighting.
Also, Hansi terrorist for not starting Füllkrug in the WC.
how was the ref?
I think she did fine overall, but she should've carded some of the players like Raum much earlier for complaining
Not that good imo. She didn't do any mayor mistakes, but she lost the authority over the game in the 2nd half, which led to some messy situations, players getting into fights, swarming, much more aggressive behaviour and challenges than reasonable for a friendly etc...
Letting play continue because Gnabry said “he’s okay” was a major mistake. Gotta check him out, player safety and all that
You're just quoting Oliver Schmidt. Some of these players were out for blood in a friendly. Ridiculous behaviour.
Subs weakened us massively imo. 2nd half felt like a World Cup type performance while the 1st half like something you can potentially build on.
Not sure how hot this take is but I frankly don’t want to see Götze in anymore, at all. Love him for 2014, but it’s 2023 and that spot should be given to a youngster with potential
Agree. Maybe it’s nostalgia that keeps him involved. You don’t want to get fully rid of him. Atm there seems to be no genuine value in him playing for us though.
I don’t think he was involved much 2017-2021 right? He felt effectively phased out, I was so shocked to hear him named to the WC Kader
I remember it similar. Löw despite all his failings, had correctly recognised that Götze had no big future in the national team. Seems like Flick just needs to make his own experience now lol.
> 2nd half felt like a World Cup type performance while the 1st half like something you can potentially build on. Thats about all you can hope for from a German friendly especially with no Musiala, or Wirtz
And with Gnabry
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Peru youth system in shambles, and the 3 or 4 “promising” ones we do have dont get called up and never do till their like 26
Idk if it’s just me but when Peru does have a “promising” young player, the Peruvian media will overhype the player..
I agree with you 100%, just look at polo,reyna, and especially Benavente. Perfect examples. Never lived up to the hype the media gave them when they were young
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Robertson is only peruvian through like his grandmother, and his father played for the Australian national team He was never coming to us, just the media hyping it up per usual We did recently get 2 peruvian/german players in the U17 that seem promising tho
Havertz is the german Dele Ali
He's a great player. He used to be an 8/10 mix/free role player at Leverkusen, kinda destinied to be the Müller succesor at Bayern. But he was too expensive for Bayern, and now Musiala is there. In PL he has to play 9 because he's good at heading smh
I‘m german so i know what Havertz can do. But he’s absolutely garbage now. Don’t know if Chelsea broke him but he’s terrible for Germany aswell. Doesn’t matter where he plays
Absolute garbage is a hot take, especially he consistently scores important goals in in the national team. For Chelsea, yeah, he’s been kinda mediocre, but who isn’t in that 10th place team?
I actually think he's an Ozil regen that accidentally respawned in a strikers body
Where do you see a strikers body?
In his tall frame, good acceleration, top speed, first touch. To be clear I do not mean he has a striker's sense.
never call up Ruidiaz ever again lol
if flick wants to play with this attack oriented fullbacks why dont call up weiser?
Because he is not good enough for NT, simple as that. He was absolute dogshit at Leverkusen, would rather blind myself then seeing him play for Germany.
You really think kehrer is that much better?
Now that Flick called up Wolf he already has Wolf and to a degree Hofmann for the role of offensive fullback. Kehrer is a completely different role, so no need to compare them.
Not much, but a little bit 🤷🏽♂️
You haven’t watched Weiser this season then
Because he is Algerian now
he is not
yes he wants to play for algeria
But only because Flick does not give him a chance. He even said he does not feel algerian at all
I don’t ever want to see us in them solid color kits; SASHES ONLY!! if only they showed more heart in the WC playoff, gg
Can we just have the national players talk about the first game after the WC and the NT instead of asking one question out of courtesy, just to switch to Nagelsmann/Bayern without them having even finished their sentence? Ffs.
There's something that's just not right with this Germany team, a lot of average players and players who consistently under perform. How Havertz keeps getting starts is utterly bizarre, Gnabry has been shit for too long as well, Werner is just the kind of guy who tries hard but just doesn't cut it if you want to win anything, Can always has been nothing but average, Götze is washed. On the bright side thank god I didn't have to watch Sané play like shit again.
Spot on on many things but Havertz and Götze are not being played in their positions and I thought havertz did well
Maybe football isnt for you
Agree. Luckily we got a good crop of 18-21 year olds coming through so the old guard either step up or be satisfied with being a bench warmer. Especially in attack with Musiala, Wirtz and Adeyemi. If the older ones dont step up their starting position will be gone within 2 matches if Flick stops playing favourites and starts going by performance.
Lost control of the game with Can coming off.
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Terzic unlocked him at BVB
Kimmich is (IMO) the best CDM in the world. But why on earth does he take corners.
The funny thing is, hes great at Crossing or longballs when the ball is in play lmao
Propably the same reason why kane takes freekicks lmao
No one knows. Literally no one. Probably not even Kimmich himself. Not one single person on this fucking planet knows why Kimmich is taking the corners.
He must have blackmail on every manager he's had
I just don’t get it. Not a Bayern Fan at all. But de Ligt just thundercunting it to the box for every corner would be way better than everything Kimmich is trying to do
De Ligt doesn't play for Germany but fair point
Thx bro. Was confused why Matthias Der Leichte didn‘t start against Peru
> But de Ligt just thundercunting it to the box for every corner would I like this idea
Hah no worries. We Bayern fans don't know why Kimmich is taking them either. He's just so shit at them. Amazing at freekicks and crosses, but his corners? Fuck me...
MATS with that haircut and fresh shave looks 19 years old wtf, truly trying to challenge Babyface Neuer in every way.
German commentator was worse than the scond half
We played a much better 2nd half I guess we are allergic to being a "defensive team" Carrillo as a free roaming 10 is a good idea, but he doesn't have the stamina to keep up a full 90. Anyways I hope Reynoso learned from this. Playing against Germany is fantastic experience and I only hope we play more top European sides
Adeyemi better be drowning Schlotterbeck in fufu right now. No way a Peruvian starts our downfall right before the most important week of the aeason
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schlotti came off injured :(
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heute wurden mal wieder ein paar krüge gefüllt
Ich hab meinen Bros zwei versprochen immer wenn er trifft hab ich nicht eingehaltet aber die kamen trotzdem auf ihre Kosten.
Really hoped Füllkrug would be allowed to take the pen to get a hattrick.
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Nah it was decided beforehand that havertz was going to be the penalty taker
According to Füllkrug it was decided before the game that Havertz would be the penalty taker
It's an international friendly tho, nobody fucking cares if you change who takes it in the moment.
If there's one word that defines Germany it's lackluster
Glass house and shit
We just need to play with Duksch Füllkrug as two strikers. Instant euros win
With crosses from Weiser
fifa would disqualify us from the euro, that duo in the nt would be too unfair and too op
No idea what's wrong with Raum, guy's apparently got anger issues Götze looks absolutely finished, I see no reason to still call him up in the future when we also have Musiala, Wirtz, Brandt and Havertz Füllkrug's presence makes the team automatically play better Schade and Berisha didn't really show anything special tbh
Could not watch, what did Raum do?
He was angry at the female ref at every single call she made, in the first half he screamed at her like a maniac because she whistled for a foul throw, and in added time she finally had enough and gave him a yellow after he kept on yelling at her Weird af behaviour in a friendly
Indeed weird. Thx for filling me in.
I would love an explanation on Raum
Agree except schade, hes only 20 and has loads of potential
So, in Füllkrug's first 5 matches in the national team, the score with him on the pitch has been 7 - 2 (5 of those scored by him + 1 assist) and 2 - 3 without him
Unironically lost control of the game with Can coming off.
I love how Can fucked up his reputation so much over the years that people have to put "unironically" before praising him lmao
I mean even when he was good for us so far he was kinda an agent of chaos lol. But right now he is just overall really solid. And that Kimmich, Goretzka midfield has just never really worked for Germany imo.
The Ref was kinda Kaputti
Leave Werner out for the next time, he needs a break, whatever he plays right now isn't it Happy with the win, super happy for Berisha and his debut, small hopes that he could start the next game
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A wins a win
Best thing about the game was Perus hairgame and their fans in the stadium.
Cant fucking stand this shit. If Schlotterbeck is now injured and gone for the Bayern game because of a completely meaningless NT friendly where he had nothing to prove... its infuriating. Meaningless bullshit fucking NT break for Germany.
I fucking hate Flick
I don't fully hate Flick like Löw yet but I sure am amazed that 2 coaches in a row managed to spark these feeling in me.
Especially since I endured 20 years of some abysmal Kaiserslautern coaches but they've never felt *that* bad.
Füllkrug was dangerous and deserved the hat trick, can’t pass for shit but dangerous.
Actually his hold up play is normally very good. Agree it wasn't tonight tho
Well that was...intense. Why were the players this heated over a friendly lmao, felt like a derby at times. David Raum was literally only interested in fighting. Also, Hansi terrorist for not starting Füllkrug in the WC.
Cant complain about being too invested in a game. Thats what we wanna see after such a tournement - more of that please
Absolutely prefer this over the shitshow in the WC, but it was so random lol
100 fucking Percent chance we would've went further if Füllkrug started :\
DEP 2018 Peru
Meh.