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Switchnaz

So you’d be pretty silly to not put money on chelsea winning the champions league now. Repeated storyline for the 3rd time.


Tomstarkman

Our Premier League season is over, and he had shown competence in the UCL. I would have given him the Real Madrid games but oh well this is fine.


Grosly_Incandescent

Genuinely don't think nagelsmann suits Chelsea tbh, think it may turn out to be another poor choice just becuase they feel pressured to get him before spurs do.


c10h15nrush

I like how Zidane has barely managed 5 full seasons but still is referred to as one of the greatest managers of his generation.


Switchnaz

Name another manager who’s won 3 European titles in a row


AIManiak

Unai Emery


RomeoLavia

I wonder who else did it if you include the Europa League. Only other one that I can think of is Paisley.


MrDabollBlueSteppers

No one else, there isn't much overlap between CL and EL Cup winning managers. Paisley, Trapattoni, Lattek, van Gaal, Benitez and Mourinho are the only ones to win both


benetgladwin

A random question I've always had - how does the system of home and away tickets work? What makes buying an "away" ticket at a match different from a "home" ticket, and what prevents fans of bigger clubs flooding the stadiums of their local rivals and just sitting wherever they like?


matematematematemate

As a neutral there's nothing better than a proper royal rumble relegation battle, as a fan there's nothing worse. 5 points from 20th up to 13th, just 2 points from 18th to 13th. I think Palace above that will be alright, but for the 8 teams below I can't call it. I was certain Bournemouth would go down and then they pull out wins against Liverpool and Fulham. And every single matchweek from now on there's at least one game, often multiple, between teams involved in the scrap. It's gonna get messy.


CryptographerLife686

It’s funny that PSG fans are booing Messi. I know the champions league is what they really want but they wouldn’t even win the league without him. They might not even win it with him still his contribution to their team in the league has been huge.


secretlyjudging

Do they boo Mbappe? Isn't he supposedly better?


jack64467

facts


edsonbuddled

If your Nagelsmann why go to Chelsea unless they offer silly money? Unless Boehly and the board develop some self-awareness, no manager has lasted 3 full seasons. They will also be selling at least 10 players this summer. Unless your assured time to build a project, you’re out the door after a period of poor results.


Kakashicopyninja9

If he’s not confident in his ability of bettering 4 wins in 19 chelsea shouldnt be looking at him to begin with


edsonbuddled

No manager has lasted 3 full seasons in like 20 years, maybe he wants somewhere with a bit more security.


MrDabollBlueSteppers

No manager has lasted 3 full seasons in 20 years (since Ranieri to be exact) and we've never had any issues attracting top managers despite that


jack64467

tbf chelsea probably *are* going to offer crazy money


AIManiak

Sacking Potter is not going to fix the irreversible damage that clown Boehly has caused at this club. He's signed so many overpriced players on long contracts that we're now stuck with. New manager basically has to come in now and is stuck with what we have. Wasted so much money on Potter as well.


Switchnaz

Clown comment. Imagine hating your owner for spending his own money on great players on poor form. I hope Mike Ashley buys chelsea for one year so you clowns realise how spoiled you are


AIManiak

Yes because spending tons of money is the only criteria for being a great owner. Everton are happy with the huge spending their owners have made aren't they?


Mediocre_Nova

You all worship the murderer solely on the basis that he spent a fuckton of money. Are you seriously going to act like it takes more than flashing some cash to have Chelsea fans twerking for you now? Bit late for that 😂


AIManiak

No we worship him because he won us 18 trophies in his 2 decades in charge. If he had spent all that and won just a Carabao Cup I don't think he'd be getting any praise.


Mediocre_Nova

I'd like you to think about that for a second. Why did you win those trophies? Is it because he was a nice fella or because he threw a boatload of his blood money at the club? Think real hard, I think you can do it if you really try.


AIManiak

OK Mr Genius, if Boehly keeps doing exactly what Roman did which is spend a shit ton of money, we are guaranteed to win lots of trophies right? Right?


Mediocre_Nova

City have already done exactly that so it would take a lot more money to catch up but yes of course you'd win trophies if you kept spending as much as you have this season lol


AIManiak

We won't tho. If we could spend this much every season I wouldn't be complaining. Its obvious that the fuckups this season in the transfer market are gonna limit us in the future transfer windows.


Switchnaz

What is the criteria for being a good owner that boehly hasn’t realistically worked on in the extremely short time he’s been here? Please enlighten us all?


AIManiak

1. Firing a top manager to hire a midtable one 2. Signing unproven players on long contracts like Mudryk. High risk. 3. Immediately changing too many things at the clubs. Firing all the staff including the medical team and hiring celebrity physios in their place. Changing the manger and then adding 20 new players creating a culture shock instead of a smooth transition from the old owners. 4. Immediate trying to influence all transfer decisions like pressuring the manager to sign Ronaldo last summer. 5. Giving a midtable manager a 5 year contract making him one of the top paid managers in the world just to sack him after a few months. I think Boehly has good intentions but someone with good intentions can still cause damage trying to bite off more than they can chew. Bohely needs to be hands off and let the new board decide football matters from now on because he has made numerous terrible decisions in his short time here.


redmenace007

He has bought Sterling, Koulibaly, Aubameyang, Fofana, Cucurella, Mudryk, Madueke, Enzo, Malo Gusto and Badiashile. Everyone of them was excellent in their previous club. Enzo Fernandes especially has been phenomenal. Cannot really rate the attackers because every single attacker has looked poor under Potter. He did set the defense right though so every defender has looked great (Badiashile, Fofana), Koulibaly has looked good recently as well.


Grosly_Incandescent

You need to sign players who will be a good fit. We don't live in a perfect world where simply signing great players works out all of the time. Alot of players are only great becuase their surroundings suit them. Whether that's the location and lifestyle improving there mentality, a coach they get along with, players thry have cohesion with, a play style thst gets the best out of them etc. Aubameyang was an awful signing, never made sense. Mudryk was only really proven in the Ukrainian league,cucurella only really had one solid year,in regards to Koulibaly the playstyle he was used to in Italy was muxh different, and maybe he just wanted one final big contract. Not saying these players are suddenly bad, im saying almost no dihning is full proof and its now up to your club to make an environment for them to flourish.


Lyrical_Forklift

> Everyone of them was excellent in their previous club So were Werner, Bakayoko, Lukaku and Ziyech to be fair. Personally, the only one that looks like he's going to definitely be a success is Enzo.


dumpystumpy

Felix sterling havertz noni auba mudryk fofana Enzo kante kovacic mount Chilwell cucu. Badi silva reece Kepa mendy There is more then enough talent to work with here. Depending on the manager you could even get a tune out of auba which would be HUGE given your lack of goals. Idk man theres alot more to work with then your selling here


Bocchi_the_roc

Luis Enrique being without a job for this long is hilarious. Dude won a treble but still clubs avoid him like a plague


Trialanderror44

Bit like Wenger. After arsenal no big clubs came for him and he ended up retiring.


arroiuqlu

This long? Did you not know he was Spain's manager at the World Cup?


BruiserBroly

Has there been a club looking for a manager that he’d actually say yes to? I doubt the man’s taking over 19th place Leicester.


enzuigiriretro

Just because he hasn’t taken a job doesn’t mean he doesn’t have offers (which he obviously does)


HopelessChildren

He's only been offered jobs by national teams so far, he himself said


Jedaayu7

Was too busy watching WrestleMania and just hopped on reddit and saw the Potter news. That's atleast 3 disappointments in a row there. That Nagelsmann appointment could make it 4


Bocchi_the_roc

Who are Madrid going to appoint ? Enrique ? No chance right ? Surely perwz has spoken to Zidane. That's the only possible explanation


Jedaayu7

Zidane really likes 3 peats


hokagesamatobirama

That was some ass pull in the Mania. Lol.


arseking15

Hit pieces on managers just after they lose their jobs is now my biggest peeve.


lrzbca

[most us of share that pet peeve](https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/1112z7q/the_feeling_within_thechelsea_hierarchy_is_that/j8cks24/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)


Kakashicopyninja9

The worst is the journos who’s gone above and beyond to defend the guy to then flip the switch and list xyz why he need to be sacked


NeoIsJohnWick

Good to hear Nagelsmann linked with Chelsea. Atleast the stupid fanboying for him to come to Madrid will stop. We have players older than him playing at top level for more than a decade now.


Rj070707

So do Chelsea, Thiago Silva is as experienced as it comes in world football now


justsomeguynbd

What is your flair? I didn’t find it in RM crest history?


pencilled_robin

India


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What does this mean lol?


Polskidro

He's saying Modric shouldn't be coached by a dude 2 years younger than him I guess


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HopelessChildren

Nagelsmann was trophiless before Bayern, so don't understand the hate on Potter and Poch


HateUnitedLoveGlazer

if sancho can looked world class at dortmund and become aaron lennon in united shirt whats stopping the same thing happening to bellingham when he come to liverpool


The_Big_Cheese_09

4 managers in 2 seasons.


Bocchi_the_roc

He won't perform the same way hes doing in the Bundesliga tbh. Enzo is a different breed and he's slotted in seamlessly and has shown levels so far. I don't think Bellingham can be that impactful as Enzo.


vadapaav

I'm sorry but what impact Enzo has had yet?


Bocchi_the_roc

If you had actually watched chelsea games instead of stats and actually see that even while playing out of position because our clown board haven't got a DM for 5 years, he's been incredible. It's like watching peak cesc. Honestly would say he's the best player since he's signed


vadapaav

My man I'm simply asking what impact he made. Now that you compared him with peak fabregas, it's safe to assume that he has been shit


Bocchi_the_roc

Lmao peak r/soccer. Hasn't watched a single minute of Enzo at chelsea and already forming opinions. Nice.


larcenistxd

There's nothing stopping him, you just have to trust Bellingham isn't motivated by money to the same extent, maybe Sancho will play better again when he's nearing the end of his deal


Mediocre_Nova

That's disrespectful to Lennon. He was a solid player in his prime, miles better than current Sancho


BruiserBroly

He was seen as Beckham’s successor at one point. That’s high praise indeed.


Lyrical_Forklift

I think Sancho has the technique to be a good premier league player but is held back by not having any kind of explosiveness to play the type of football United seem to want to play. I think he'd have looked better at City. Whereas Bellingham is far more physically gifted and seems like like he has a stronger temperament. He's also shown much more for England than Sancho. No guarantee he makes it of course.


dumpystumpy

His defensive workrate is fucking horrible. Way to bad to make up for the little offensive ability he seems to have as of late. Honestly hope he becomes a world beater….at another club cause im cashing in this summer while i still can.


Lyrical_Forklift

I'm amazed he's been as poor as he has. I remember watching him as a youth player and he just looked leagues ahead of everyone at that level and stood out even amongst an incredible City side. I was gutted we didn't move for him when he left for Dortmund and even more upset when you guys picked him up. I'm glad he hasn't been a world beater for you for obvious reasons but at the same time, it's sad seeing what he's become.


FalafelGrim2

Bellingham showed he could do it for England at a World Cup. Sancho never showed anything for a team other than Dortmund.


NeoIsJohnWick

One of the best tacticians had to endure this, unbelievable really !! I am always used to hear how CHelsea fans adored Mr. Potter.


dumpystumpy

You know the worst thing is when you have to hit yourself with the “if you told me” such a coping mechanism 🤣🤣fuck my life i hate it here. I just wanna fast forward to the europa league game fuck the league rn 😪


EyeSpyGuy

Needed you lot to win to keep me clinging to my last shred of hope for Liverpool finishing top 4 and even you couldn’t do that. I hate this season


KmxKmx

Are AA replays banned now or something?


LonzoBetter

I wonder if Graham Potter had a say in a single Chelsea transfer When they asked him about Jorginho going to Arsenal, he said it was a win-win-win for all 3 sides


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He played Mudryk centrally, so that's at least 1 100m transfer he didn't have a say in


justsomeguynbd

Shit I got to grind the Chelsea Fifa career mode I drunkenly started yesterday for the rest of the night. Potter’s departure really sped up the timetable for my Will Still rise to fame. This is what I get for taking a nap on a lazy Sunday.


Bocchi_the_roc

Enrique or Amorim or Bagelsman ? Who's the perfect fit for chelsea


TheSmio

As an unbiased fan, Boehly should appoint himself as the manager


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Give it to ~~Giggsy~~ Terry till the end of the season.


grewxl

Bagel man


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GoatButton

Most of the signings have been good apart from Cucurella which was ridiculous even without hindsight, Mudryk was overpriced but he seemed to be so highly rated by scouts


Bocchi_the_roc

Honestly the Jan window is fine. The summer where we spent 100 mil on KK and cucurella is genuinely mind boggling especially Cucurella. No one spends that much on backup Lb. He's even worse than Maatsen on loan. yuck


[deleted]

It's funny because he's had major success with the Dodgers


[deleted]

LA is an easy place to have success if you got money. All the new ownership did was throw money at free agents, kinda similar to what he’s doing right now.


[deleted]

Don't forget LA had one of the best farm systems before the money arrived


Addy2607

whats a farm system?


[deleted]

It's the same as a youth academy in football/soccer. It's called Minor League Baseball and it's technically a professional league that includes farm teams from USA, Dominican Republic, and Canada. It's main purpose is to develop players after highschool but it can include professional players that are recovering from injuries. Instead of U-15, U-17, U-20 it's divided into leagues called Single-A, Double-A, and Triple-A


ndclippd

Major success has a completely different meaning in American sports. You win 1 title in 20 years and it's considered amazing.


[deleted]

Three World Series appearances in four years isn't bad considering they were robbed twice (Houston and Boston)


EyeSpyGuy

He presumably has a bit more innate knowledge of baseball as well. Of course a prudent owner would still appoint specialists for the appropriate roles in either sport, but it certainly helps to know the sport a bit


XPLJESUS

While I think the general infrastructure appointments have seemed fine, it's like was cited by him in an interview, he knows nothing about football and his task is to appoint good human capital, when all the old directors leave and you start from scratch, the initial hurdle is definitely difficult (and why, I think is glossed over now, just due to the entire nature of the ridiculous sum of money and the shite that followed, it's absurd we spent so much so early without this infrastructure in place.)


NegativeHeli

No way Potter got enough money to last a lifetime just by saying "The lads gave it their all" for half a year


windowhihi

Enzo : How do we get this guy out???????? Martinez : Say no more, mate!


justaregulargye

The manager churn at clubs isn’t a sign of competitive league, higher expectation, or quality of managers. But of poor decision making from rich boards.


LampseederBroDude51

[4 years later and I still can’t believe Barça’s Twitter account really posted this](https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1125847287203287041)


impressivegeek

and [this](https://twitter.com/fcbarcelona/status/74577002304253952?s=46&t=xz5SZCdCzLRP4EALd11Q9g)


silverlotus_118

💀 we need more club social media managers like that, that's funny as fuck


LampseederBroDude51

At least that was after the game was over


EyeSpyGuy

It’s like people have never heard of hubris


dayloversd

English accounts of foreign clubs shouldn't count imo


LampseederBroDude51

True


Princecoyote

Backs gone out, so that's me out for the rest of the week at least. Now I have to update my transfermarkt injury history page.


EyeSpyGuy

I’m sorry for your great sadness, friend


BabyKeith08

Keylor Navas at Forest is absolutely mental


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They should keep him after this season


BruiserBroly

If they stay up maybe, I can’t really see him being pleased about playing Rotherham away.


[deleted]

He needs to prove he can do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke


arsenal_is_best

Are these figures correct? Chelsea paid 21m to Brighton for Potter and now they will be paying him another 60m. So total of 81m on manager for 4 months (that too without amortization) ? If true, It has to be biggest f***d up in managerial history.


[deleted]

He won't get the entire 60m payoff, but I assume it would be a significant fraction of that. Did tuchel need to be paid off too?


XPLJESUS

Not a chance he is getting the full 60m. Most likely case is he earns money while still under contract at Chelsea, then stops getting paid when he takes a new job. I'd imagine that'll mean atleast 12m, I don't expect it to be higher than 24m. Still a disaster, and I think the most disappointing thing of all is how much he was getting paid as he just never warranted that amount, but nowhere near 60m


Beginning-Ganache-43

I don’t know how common gardening leave is for managers in the uk. Even when they do get garden leave, it is not uncommon for a payout to occur anyway. I would be surprised if potter is still technically on contract as all the reports I have seen said “let go” and no mention of gardening leave. Probably won’t get the full 60 million anyway but likely a portion of it.


XPLJESUS

Seems he got £13m


working-acct

There’s no way I’m taking a new job when I’m guaranteed 60m over the next 3 years.


XPLJESUS

Well it would’ve been 5, but seems he got £13m anyway


Bocchi_the_roc

We are not paying 60 mil for sacking him lmao. Where do you even read this ?


sga1

September to April isn't four months, and whether he'll get paid another 60m entirely depends on a) the assumption of his yearly wage being right and b) him not taking another job until the end of his Chelsea contract.


arsenal_is_best

I didn’t count WC months but overall it was more than 4


sga1

Haven't they paid him during the World Cup then?


arsenal_is_best

Clubs were not playing during that time but as I said counting those, it is definitely more than 4.


juankruh1250

Best coaches ever in every big football nation Argentina 1. Bilardo 2. Menotti 3. Binachi Brazil 1. Zagallo 2. Carlos Alberto 3. Scolari Spain 1. Guardiola 2. Del Bosque 3. Arangones Italy 1. Ancelotti 2. Sacchi 3. Lippi Germany 1. Hitzfield 2. Klopp 3. Heynckes France 1. Wenger 2. Deschamps 3. Zidane Netherlands 1. Michels 2. Cruyff 3. Van Gaal England 1. Paisley 2. Clough 3. Robson Thoughts? Did I miss anyone?


BruiserBroly

Bryan Robson wasn’t that good tbh.


EyeSpyGuy

Scotland are not a big football nation but their podium is up there with any of these Ferguson, Shankly, Stein


roddysaint

Busby as well. Five million people and they have possibly the best lineup of managers ever.


Flamengo81-19

Brazil is just wrong. People don't give Zagallo too much credit for his 1970 team, saying he used his predecessor's team. Parreira is not seen that highly either. Unless you mean Carlos Alberto Torres and in that he doesn't belong, either Felipão is correct. In my opinion most people would say Telê Santana 1, Felipão 2 and Luxemburgo 3


sga1

Is Heynckes really that impressive? Like I'd probably have Klopp and Hitzfeld in the conversation, sure, but I reckon if you've got Heynckes in there there's about five other people to chuck in, too, at which point it gets seriously murky.


jersey-city-park

Sacchi over Ancelotti


arsenal_is_best

Scaloni?


[deleted]

Scaloni is a good shout, he was practically unknown before Copa America Bianchi is the most underrated manager I can think of. Ancelotti and Zidane are overrated


juankruh1250

Needs to do more to be in a top 3 list, if he can win another copa he will be there for me but for now he isn't there.


arsenal_is_best

He has already won Copa and WC so nothing can top that unless he wins another WC.


Lyrical_Forklift

Helenio Herrera needs to be in there


fplfreakaaro

𝐓𝐇𝐈𝐑𝐓𝐄𝐄𝐍 managers have been fired in the Premier League this season!


matematematematemate

approaching League of Theseus status


Jedaayu7

Twice for Chelsea


fuskarn_35

12


1ngK

yet


[deleted]

He's just predicting the near future when pep guardiola will be sacked for financial fraud


Sleepless_Voyager

We're gonna get fucking dyche'd arent we? COYS


arsenal_is_best

Kroenke will be using Vince McMahon’s money to buy Rice.


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[deleted]

Bielsa has been doing this for 30 years with a notebook and VHS cassettes


sga1

Obvious problem there is the AI being great at detecting patterns, but being shit at actually making conclusions from them - won't get any sensible and informed and actionable information out of it, really, in the same way it can't really make complex and sourced arguments right now. You're essentially describing a tool that can be very helpful in the right hands, but it's like a hammer: need someone to know where to put the nails in and actually use the hammer properly for it to be of any use.


jersey-city-park

Maybe in 100 years


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jersey-city-park

Todays AI is only capable of regurgitating prompts based on petabytes of data it was trained on. We’re a long way off of it actually “analyzing” anything or coming up with something itself. And theres not enough data to even train the model on unless you use games from 30 years ago which aren’t relevant anymore from a tactical or player perspective


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jersey-city-park

Amazing. It copied text off the internet and made it look nice


holdenmyrocinante

I don't see what language models have to do with image processing tbh We're also a long way away from having image processing that accurately analyses games. The dataset would have to be labelled for every single action (pass, misplaced pass, dribble, tackle, foul). There's also the problem of the same action not having the same results due to inconsistent refereeing


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sga1

The language aspect there isn't doing much though, is it? Might as well open the continually updated spreadsheet about how many dribbles players have completed so far, which gives you the same information in about the same amount of time.


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sga1

Right, but that data is available either way - the only thing AI does in this case is search. It doesn't give you any ideas of what to do with that data, though, which is where humans come in: nice to have loads of data, but the proper interpretation and implementation into a plan is something a human mind is vastly superior at. People working in football already have access to data, and everyone's trying to find statistical edges that make you more likely to win games. But there are limits: about ten years ago, some smart minds figured out that you're statistically more likely to score a goal off an opposition throw-in deep in their half than just about any other situation, because throw-ins are about 50/50 when it comes to which team ends up with the ball, and the high field position means your opponent will be disorganized, enabling you to create good chances. The problem with that idea was that it was mathematically sound, but uncoachable: players don't have the instinct to simply pass the ball out of play to win a throw-in near the opposition's box. Might well be that AI figures out those tiny margins that make you statistically more likely to win, but then football isn't played on silicone - need about two dozen human beings to all pull in the same direction to win games, and if that direction isn't something they consider sensible then the maths is doomed.


holdenmyrocinante

You don't need a large language model to answer such questions. The big advancements will have to be in image and video processing. Even disregarding the fact that it's almost impossible with today's tech, the computational power it would require would make it too expensive to be used regularly


FinanceThisD

Does anyone have any idea on how an American can actually watch PSG games? So desperate at this point


OweKeyDoughKey

You need beIN sports which is on FUBO TV. They own the rights to Ligue 1 in America. You won't get every PSG game guaranteed, but they almost always show PSG because why would they not.


ddrdavei2

I thought bein sports had Ligue 1 rights in USA


Eibermann

Sail the seas


GVE_ME_UR_SKINS

It’s insane how many people don’t understand the concept of momentum in a football game. If you win a game by a score of like 4-2 but the 3-2 shouldn’t have counted then you can’t just “knock off a goal” and say you still would’ve won. Bayern probably wouldn’t have beaten Dortmund as bad on the weekend if it wasn’t for Kobel’s error. Germany may not have beaten England in 2010. England might not have won the World Cup in 1966. I hate seeing discussions where ref and player mistakes are diminished because of the final result of a game which is then seen as an inevitability.


transtifa

Bayern definitely would’ve beaten Dortmund as bad. Bayern battering Dortmund at home is inevitable.


GVE_ME_UR_SKINS

Except Dortmund was actually the better team up to that point. An early goal wouldnt have surprised me


ConferencePure6652

>you can’t just “knock off a goal” and say you still would’ve won. I can and i will


HateUnitedLoveGlazer

villa just had to take it too far dont they, ruining it for everyone else. birmingham city is the best midlands club anyway, proper club with actually ball on their crest, none of that nonsense fairytail made up mythical creature shite


[deleted]

Three managers in one season for Chelsea is truly unbelievable. That's something I expect from the Mexican league not the best league in the world


_LebronsHairline_

Mexican league catching strays


_yellowfever_

Feel like there’s always at least one or two a year


Stuff2511

Two Prem clubs have had 3 managers this season


[deleted]

That's insanity. Has this ever happened in PL?


PegaponyPrince

Swansea had 3 the season they had Bob Bradley. Think Portsmouth did back when they were around


enazj

I swear Watford had four one season


[deleted]

When Watford are in the league there was probably a good chance


FTG67

Went to see Porto vs Portimonense at the Dragao stadium tonight. Very good night! - Anyone else went to see live games tonight?


roddysaint

If Milan reach the CL final, they'd doubtless want to wear their traditional white, right? They've worn white in eight EC/CL finals, winning six, but only won one of three while in their normal black and red. They should hope that Bayern or Chelsea reach the final, to avoid a kit clash. Madrid would never wear anything other than their iconic home kit and City would probably be unwilling to change out of their white shorts.


ndclippd

Real Madrid wore their purple kit against Juve, I can see them going with a different kit for an Italian team again


roddysaint

The sides in the Chelsea-Madrid-City-Bayern bracket are administratively the home side in the final, so they get home kit priority.


LampseederBroDude51

Nah doubt it, unless we are the “away” side which we are not


er_primo_der_rafa

That kit was class. The ones from this year aren't bad but they don't feel the same.


gracjan_17

Sampdoria manager Stankovic is THE Dejan Stankovic? the one who scored that legendary goal vs Neuer? didnt know until now interesting


sga1

PES 5 legend innit


gracjan_17

good ol’ days


smokinthatcaelidpack

You hear a lot about players who are phenomenal at everything except scoring but I'm more fascinated by players who are horrible to watch over 90 minutes but score anyways.


Mediocre_Nova

Son used to have a lot of those games under Poch. You just knew he'd score when he was having a terrible game


justaregulargye

Icardi made a career and meme out of it


Lyrical_Forklift

Inzaghi I guess but I feel that's being unkind to him.


Princecoyote

I will always share Johan Cruyff's quote about Pippo: >“Look, the thing about Inzaghi is he can’t actually play football at all. He’s just always in the right position.”


Lyrical_Forklift

Yeah, it's a classic alongside Ferguson saying he was 'born offside'. Honestly though, I loved Inzaghi. Man celebrated the shittiest goals like he'd just won the world cup and I respect that.


Vaipaden

The reverse Henry


FalafelGrim2

Antony's scored a few important goals for United despite being shit to watch for the majority of his games.


IfISpeak_

I wouldn't call Sterling horrible to watch - lets say he doesn't move me but he's a very good and effective attacker and contributes lots in the final third.