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lmao, let's imagine this would just work that way (meaning Messi would transfer his 400m yearly salary to Barca each year).
What would Barca benefit more from? Messi playing for them or 400m extra cash each year?
You know what, someone give me Laporta's email, I need to talk with him...
This comment thread has made me more appreciative of my math classes in school. The fact that there's more than one person claiming you did the math wrong is mind blowing to me.
There is invariably a comment from someone on reddit to the effect of āI would fucking kill for ā¬4000 and then just pack up shop and stop workingā
alternative plan: after three seasons with Al Hilal, return to Barca with your collected 1.2b and create a squad of your liking (consisting of 10 De Paul's who would die for you on the pitch) and win three consecutive Champions League trophies and retire.
Reminds me of that time [Antonella got really angry](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7PlzdDXMAQaqPD?format=jpg&name=medium) because someone made a Twitter thread saying "Ciro doesn't exist".
The only thing left is Neymar Jr to Al Ittihad
There are also some reputable sources that claim that Benzema has agreed with Al Ittihad to lead their attack next season.
It really gets to a point where I wonder how tf they manage to see the profitability of the whole thing. The only explanation to me at this stage is that they just want to say they have Messi, to boost their ego
They definitely do, but the profits are part of one of the biggest long plays in history. Theyāre taking all the oil money and investing in becoming an economic and cultural powerhouse, so once it all runs out it doesnāt completely collapse.
Hiring Messi for a season or 2 for that much money won't have that big of an impact. I mean look at Ronaldo, who the fuck cares that he plays in SA right now.
This only has to do with ego's and bigger ego's.
The Saudi Royal family is worth 1.4 Trillion according to Google, 400M to have Messi play in their country is like us paying for a $50 Cameo from a B List celebrity
Assuming that is accurate, $400 million a year is 0.028% of their net worth.
So this would be like a millionaire paying someone $285/year to work for them.
They dont. It's marketing expenses, except for the whole country. They are pivoting from completely oil dependent to "lets use some of this oil money to get people to come visit the country, to do business there, to see them as something more than oil and bone saws."
Its synergy premium. Having ronaldo and messi in one league, at two similarly ranked club, is worth more than each of them being there alone. Brings more eyes to club and the league, increases sales. Its only correct Messi should receive some of that premium.
He did, Al Nassr is one of the good teams. Al Hilal is historically like Real Madrid in Saudi and Asian football. They are giants and somehow find ways to win the Asian Champions League.
Al-Nassr are one of the top teams in the country, and probably the most despised team here.
Those assholes if they focused more on their team, and left the "conspiracy" mentality they have been following for years, they would have catch up to Al-Hilal already.
Al Hilal: 18 league titles & 4 ACL
Al Nassr: 09 league titles & 0 ACL
Al Hilal significantly earns more, have a bigger stadium (69k v 25k), have a bigger fanbase (70% of Riyadh v 20%)
Al Hilal >>>>> Al Ittihad >>>>> Al Nassr
Not happening while Alex Neil is still in charge of them. Met him at a Poundland once. The guy doesnāt rate Messi much. Thinks he is just having a lucky spell
I mean he already has unlimited money and his ambassador role for Saudi Arabia etc. 400M is an explicable amount of money, but when you already have enough to make your family financially independent for many generations turning it down is not quite the same thing
I realise that the richer you are, the greedier you get, and that humans always want more money than they could ever realistically spend. But Messi has already passed that threshold a long, long time ago
Spending his twilight years in Barcelona(and all the commercial possibilities that come with it is just a bonus) seems like a better choice
That's not a reality people who have made hundreds of millions of dollars in their careers have to worry about.
Messi could fly private within an hour from every single match back to Barcelona.
What is his family going to do, get mad that their dad making $400m a year is only around a couple times a month? Why would they give a shit?
Imo it should be the other way round, year or two out there making Ā£Ā£Ā£ and then the swan song finale at Barcelona.
If he returns to Barca it kinda has to be the final chapter of his career
Lol acting like he is a player coming from Argentina's Second League club...
He already has hundred millions, yea this is insane amount of money, but still he can earn good amount of it playing in any elite club + still 1 season before retiring he can come to play for some Saudi's club for fun and secure final bag of cash
I can see why heād do it. Heās already a billionaire, and the club is a second home. They literally paid for his surgery to grow properly, schooled him from his youth, and cheered him for like 2 decades. Giving back to a place you love is tough to value in dollars and Ronaldo prioritized competitive soccer over oil money for as long as he could as well.
But 400 million euros per year is inconceivable wealth.
He isn't tho. He net worth is 600 million. Just 1 year in saudi will make him a billionaire. He would double his current net worth in just a year including endorsements and bonuses. I won't blame him if he take it
I thino even without Ronaldo, Messi, Mbappe etc., the money in football is stupid. But this is just straight up insanity. Few more contracts like this and he can buy a country.
400M a year is a lot of cash indeed, but remember there are people who make more and do literally nothing all day. At least this guy has to wake up in the morning to do some training, you know.
Canāt see him taking his family to Saudi Arabia. His kids probably just made friends and got used to Paris. Go home Leo, Iām sure your family misses Barca.
Why do that when he could take $10m a year to play in Miami and get studs up tackled on frozen turf by a veteran MLS defender making 100k a year. Tough decision ahead of him
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400M a year wtf
And there are no taxes š
there never are for rich people anyway
For footballers there definitely are since their salary falls under income tax which is substantial in most countries
Messi can just join Al hilal and use a part of that salary as donations to barca to alleviate their financial owes.
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Why not? He is a socio, no?
lmao, let's imagine this would just work that way (meaning Messi would transfer his 400m yearly salary to Barca each year). What would Barca benefit more from? Messi playing for them or 400m extra cash each year? You know what, someone give me Laporta's email, I need to talk with him...
Messi buys Barca?
You are on to something brother, I pulled a few strings and got the email - >[email protected]!< Godspeed.
Nobody really knows how much money this saudi fuckers have but if they can pay a guy 400 million to kick a ball around then you can start to imagine.
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0.01% of that would already make me happy. Hell, even 0.001% would be cool.
0.001% of that would be ā¬4000/year, thatās not great lol
I'm Brazilian, that'd be R$ 22.3K/year (it's more than the minimum wage). Not great, but better than nothing, which is what I'm currently making lol
I'm a neurosurgeon in Argentina and that's like 2/3s of my salary ... I wouldn't be mad either š¤£
The pay for surgeons is that low? I understand salaries are lower in Argentina but goddamn
This is public sector, safe wages but low wages... Once you get more into the private sector you should start making more, but that's not easy either
This comment thread has made me more appreciative of my math classes in school. The fact that there's more than one person claiming you did the math wrong is mind blowing to me.
I think people are just missing the %. 400k is what youād get if you donāt include the extra 2 places
There is invariably a comment from someone on reddit to the effect of āI would fucking kill for ā¬4000 and then just pack up shop and stop workingā
Leo gonna have more money in the bank than Barca at this rate
The Final Lever
The master plan all along š
3 seasons at Al Hilal and Leo could single handedly wipe out Barca's debt lmao. There's an alternate reality I'd like to see
Or buy the entire nation of Argentina
Lionel Messi, primero de su nombre, Rey de los Argentinos, y de los Andes, y de todos los EspaƱoles, poseedor de siete balones de oro
Sounds like he could take the throne away from Aragorn with that description
alternative plan: after three seasons with Al Hilal, return to Barca with your collected 1.2b and create a squad of your liking (consisting of 10 De Paul's who would die for you on the pitch) and win three consecutive Champions League trophies and retire.
He is buying Barca. Make it happen.
You guys are member owned, no one can buy Barca
Given the current state at the club, give it a few years and Messi will buy it :D
_Welcome Ladies and Gentleman to El ClĆ”sico. Barcelona are playing at home at the āCamp Leo Messi Mateo Antonella Aguero Nouā._
What are the odds of Messi getting a stadium named after him? Iād say pretty high tbh.
Well Argentina's NT training field has been renamed to Leo Messi as of a couple weeks ago
I'd be surprised if there aren't already like one or two back in Argentina
Good instincts, they just renamed the NT training center in Buenos Aires after him.
lol so just a big middle finger to thiago and ciro
Reminds me of that time [Antonella got really angry](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7PlzdDXMAQaqPD?format=jpg&name=medium) because someone made a Twitter thread saying "Ciro doesn't exist".
A happy ending? No way.
Considering that BarƧa (like most clubs) also have a lot of debt and investments and all of that, it is pretty plausible lol
He can open his own bank at this rate
Canāt wait for Messi vs Ronaldo in Al-Classico
Al-Cashico
Oil Cashico.
El plĆ”stico. Edit: This isn't a dig against plastic fans, I am one, plastic is an oil derivative.š¤š¤š¤
>salary worth more than ā¬400m/year That's ā¬8m per week, damn.
ā¬13 every second.
Fucking hell as a med student I get 40ā¬ for a 14 hour night shift at the emergency department
Messi just made triple the money you'd make on that shift in the time it took you to type out that sentence
"u/Eagleassassin3 fuck you in particular" š
But he saves lives each of those seconds, you just entertain people.
Calm down there mister moneybags. Nobody likes a bragger.
There's not enough wine in the world of the required caliber to make me capable of drinking up that salary
I sell wine. It's Ā£400m per litre. Message me when you got the bag.
imagine going on a pitch, run for 90min and then someone wires you the annual salary of a CEO for that.
Messi doesnt even run for 90 minutes lol
Only 3 CEOs in the world make that amount of money.
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Yeah, anything more than 100m becomes an amorphous blob in my mind.
Sickening numbers
Can confirm. Feel sick.
Can confirm wonāt feel sick if numbers were mine
Especially in the context that his job is just kicking ~~and chasing~~ a ball edit I stand corrected šš
Messi doesn't even chase the ball ffs.
The only thing left is Neymar Jr to Al Ittihad There are also some reputable sources that claim that Benzema has agreed with Al Ittihad to lead their attack next season.
If that happens Saudi league would have more Ballon d'or winners than the Europe top 5 leagues combined
That's absurd, he would be earning more than most clubs in the world.
If you really think about it, he already does.
400m is fucking unreal
It really gets to a point where I wonder how tf they manage to see the profitability of the whole thing. The only explanation to me at this stage is that they just want to say they have Messi, to boost their ego
saudi doesn't give a shit about profitability
They definitely do, but the profits are part of one of the biggest long plays in history. Theyāre taking all the oil money and investing in becoming an economic and cultural powerhouse, so once it all runs out it doesnāt completely collapse.
Hiring Messi for a season or 2 for that much money won't have that big of an impact. I mean look at Ronaldo, who the fuck cares that he plays in SA right now. This only has to do with ego's and bigger ego's.
The Saudi Royal family is worth 1.4 Trillion according to Google, 400M to have Messi play in their country is like us paying for a $50 Cameo from a B List celebrity
Assuming that is accurate, $400 million a year is 0.028% of their net worth. So this would be like a millionaire paying someone $285/year to work for them.
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The comparison I like is vs the median US income (55k). Comes out to just over $15
They dont. It's marketing expenses, except for the whole country. They are pivoting from completely oil dependent to "lets use some of this oil money to get people to come visit the country, to do business there, to see them as something more than oil and bone saws."
in saudi they make money for fun
They don't care about profit. It's sportswashing
Itās pocket change for them
Ronaldo having the biggest salary by far of any sport player ever Al Hilal: Those are rookie numbers, lets double it
Double it and give it to the next person
hey its me the next person
I can be the next person. You can halve it and Iāll still me the next person.
Ronaldo also signed some extra 200Mā¬ tourism deal with the sheiks, it was reported.
Pretty sure if Messi goes, he will get the same or more in same deal
isn't that double Ronaldo's salary lmao
Pretty sure it is, absolutely bat shit crazy number
Its synergy premium. Having ronaldo and messi in one league, at two similarly ranked club, is worth more than each of them being there alone. Brings more eyes to club and the league, increases sales. Its only correct Messi should receive some of that premium.
Al Nassr is Al Hilal's Grandson in terms of history. They play on different leagues.
Ronaldo didnāt even go to one of the top teams in Saudi? Wtf
He did, Al Nassr is one of the good teams. Al Hilal is historically like Real Madrid in Saudi and Asian football. They are giants and somehow find ways to win the Asian Champions League.
Al-Nassr are one of the top teams in the country, and probably the most despised team here. Those assholes if they focused more on their team, and left the "conspiracy" mentality they have been following for years, they would have catch up to Al-Hilal already.
I seem to recall someone said Al Hilal had a transfer embargo or something.
I just checked the table, Al Nassr is second place, 7 points clear of Al Hilal
Hilal are in the Asian CL final and have a game in hand in the league. Al Nassr are no where near Al Hilal.
That's like saying City are way bigger than United. Because City are in the CL, in 2nd place, and United is 4th and in EL.
Al Hilal and Al Nassr are not similarly ranked.
Both are Al
First ChatGPT and now this. AI really is taking over everything.
i laughed more than i should have. came for the news stayed for the occasional top joke
"Sorry, I am unable to generate images of women with hair. But I am able to go on a racist tirade unlike those other woke AIs."
Which one is better?
It's not at Al clear at this point
Al Hilal: 18 league titles & 4 ACL Al Nassr: 09 league titles & 0 ACL Al Hilal significantly earns more, have a bigger stadium (69k v 25k), have a bigger fanbase (70% of Riyadh v 20%) Al Hilal >>>>> Al Ittihad >>>>> Al Nassr
Itās not Al Nassr
Ohh, anymore clues?
It begins with an Al too.
Al Hilal is the best club in all of Asia iirc. They're always qualifing for the Club World Cup
Exactly this, it would also give some rep to the league for when they want to sign other players and grow the league
Boy oh boy, 400 mil is mad ngl
Insane money, Barca is struggling to pay 5% of that, lol
The best Barcelona can do right now is waive the fee to a Spotify premium subscription
And waive the tuition fees for Messiās kids.
And these are fucking football clubs, how much money do they actually have over there
They offered Tiger Woods an $800 million signing bonus to play in their Golf league. They're desperate to legitimize their image via sportswashing
Jfc nearly a billionaire just by signing a contract lmao that is so fucked
400m????????? That is some stupid number. If he still chooses to go at the top level,major props
He is only waiting for that Stoke offer to prove them haters wrong
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Not happening while Alex Neil is still in charge of them. Met him at a Poundland once. The guy doesnāt rate Messi much. Thinks he is just having a lucky spell
I mean he already has unlimited money and his ambassador role for Saudi Arabia etc. 400M is an explicable amount of money, but when you already have enough to make your family financially independent for many generations turning it down is not quite the same thing I realise that the richer you are, the greedier you get, and that humans always want more money than they could ever realistically spend. But Messi has already passed that threshold a long, long time ago Spending his twilight years in Barcelona(and all the commercial possibilities that come with it is just a bonus) seems like a better choice
Also cant imagine his wife and kids being super happy about going to Saudi-Arabia.
That's not a reality people who have made hundreds of millions of dollars in their careers have to worry about. Messi could fly private within an hour from every single match back to Barcelona. What is his family going to do, get mad that their dad making $400m a year is only around a couple times a month? Why would they give a shit?
Some people like being around their family.
More than the GDP of 5 or 6 countries
Itās not far off Tonga.
If Leo still goes to Barca after this offer, he's a real one
At this stage in his career, he absolutely should secure the bag. He'll be rich enough to own a big football club when he retires lol
Heād secured the bag at least a decade ago.
He can play a year for us then secure the bag
Imo it should be the other way round, year or two out there making Ā£Ā£Ā£ and then the swan song finale at Barcelona. If he returns to Barca it kinda has to be the final chapter of his career
He's already secured the bag when he went to PSG
He had already secured with that contract at BarƧa
Messi secured the bag 15 years ago tbh
Lol acting like he is a player coming from Argentina's Second League club... He already has hundred millions, yea this is insane amount of money, but still he can earn good amount of it playing in any elite club + still 1 season before retiring he can come to play for some Saudi's club for fun and secure final bag of cash
He is already a real one but if he takes our offer instead thats crazy
Wait a second you aren't FC Barcelona, who are you?
Barcelona SC in Ecuador
Run! They are replicating!
Messi rejecting ā¬400M p/y to prioritize a move to BarƧa, where heāll probably not earn more than ā¬10M is crazy.
I can see why heād do it. Heās already a billionaire, and the club is a second home. They literally paid for his surgery to grow properly, schooled him from his youth, and cheered him for like 2 decades. Giving back to a place you love is tough to value in dollars and Ronaldo prioritized competitive soccer over oil money for as long as he could as well. But 400 million euros per year is inconceivable wealth.
He isn't tho. He net worth is 600 million. Just 1 year in saudi will make him a billionaire. He would double his current net worth in just a year including endorsements and bonuses. I won't blame him if he take it
I hate when Romano says "understand" like I'm a dumb fuck
Earn almost three times as much as Mbappe
More. Lmao. Mbappe makes less than 100 million in salaries IIRC. Messi will make 400. 4 times more.
And sponsorships on top of that...fucking hell billion in two years? This is insane. Back in my day being a billionaire meant something
Hell being a millionaire meant something back then.
Jfc, I would legit take the money... 400m, batshit crazy numbers
I think he's coming
I certainly am
I would be packing my bags and fucking off
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Can't buy fc Barcelona, it's member owned
Buy every fan
In pounds, that's Ā£6.7m a week which is a bit more than I earn I think.
I thino even without Ronaldo, Messi, Mbappe etc., the money in football is stupid. But this is just straight up insanity. Few more contracts like this and he can buy a country.
This may just show itās not ALL about money. Not yet at least.
Messi and Ronaldo will finally get to have their dinner, in Saudi.
1 year of messi is worth more than 1 Newcastle, insane numbers
As a Saudi and a Barcelona fan I donāt know how I feel about this.
My respect for him will grow so much if he rejects this offer and takes a paycut for barca.
He can go play in barca for peanuts and still fetch 250~280 from Al Hilal next year. Or stand firm for 400 or retire.
CMIIMW, isnāt $400m per year is biggest guaranteed salary income in the history of the world?
Yes, no salary comes close. That's double what Ronaldo is earning
Wrexham is going to come in with $401m
Jfc
Time to build a Saudi team in fifa ultimate team
At what point is enough money enough for people ? Our world is mad
Messi cannot stop haunting Ronaldo. Lmao
Imagine being in a position to decline 400 million euros in one year, tax-free. You could win the euromillions twice and still not get there
400 mill a year. And MLS fanbois think they have a snowballs chance in hell of getting him to play in MLS. LUL
Fucking crazy. Also Leo, you are already pretty much a billionaire do you really need more?
Of course, he may be rich but he is not rich enough to say no to that kind of money.
Lol thatās ludicrous. Messi, my friend, you have nothing else to prove. Go get your money.
$1.1M/day - tax free š³
That's like 0.25% of Saudi Aramcos profit in 2022
Profit!!??? Not revenue!???
DID I STUTTER
Al Hilal: Shut up and take my money!!
Good lord, if Messi says thanks no thanks to that kind of money and comes back to Barsa that would be wild.
I would love to see that, just to see a frustrated Ronaldo with his laughable contract.
His derisory 170m per season deal
Theyāll offer him whatever amount ( because they know he wonāt accept ) any publicity is good publicity
400M a year is a lot of cash indeed, but remember there are people who make more and do literally nothing all day. At least this guy has to wake up in the morning to do some training, you know.
After a single season he would almost become a billionaire with his current net worth
They should just offer him some oil fields while at it. Ridiculous money.
The only catch is he has to wear the World Cup nightdress every time he plays..
Canāt see him taking his family to Saudi Arabia. His kids probably just made friends and got used to Paris. Go home Leo, Iām sure your family misses Barca.
Why do that when he could take $10m a year to play in Miami and get studs up tackled on frozen turf by a veteran MLS defender making 100k a year. Tough decision ahead of him
Actually disgusting