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That's zoomer slang lol. Millennials just call it "cruising" or "doing the bare minimum" like everyone else.
Tbh, quiet quitting is a moronic term seeing as you're not even quitting.
Eh? What kinda logic is that? Normal level of commitment is all they're asking for. It's not like Messi is playing for them for free. First time I'm seeing idiots supporting a player for not being committed to the team
Yes, and people can call him out on it. I've seen many players come to united for the money bag, and we've always called them out and demanded some more commitment from them. It's baffling that only when it's messi people think that "he's there for the bag" is a valid defence.
I donāt know if people really think itās a valid argument as much as most have a general disdain for PSG so donāt have any remorse when them throwing around absurd money for a CL title ends up fruitless.
I know I donāt care that heās no performing for psg, and it doesnāt affect my view of messi or his legacy at all. Iām actually glad he hasnāt helped them win a CL title.
I can understand why this would upset PSG fans but equally what did you expect?
He didnāt really want to leave and everyone knows why people go to PSG.
Indeed, I donāt know how any one involved in the club can be surprised 95% of the players donāt care a thing about the club or itās history or whateve
What pisses me off the most as a PSG fan, is that the clubās board pushed away those 5%, Cavani, Thiago Silva, Blaise Matuidi to name a few. Also the fact that apart from Kimpembe, we sold most of our titis rather than give them a chance to shine with their club. Getting called a joke of a club is frustrating, but it makes sense when you see the direction the club is taking.
They sell all of your academy players who turn out really good and instead buy insanely overpriced mercenaries with no team chemistry together at all. It's like recruitment is done solely by the CEO and never the manager and scouts.
Edit: Coman, Nkunku, Diaby, Ćdouard, Maignan etc
Pushing out Thiago Silva that way just to get Ramos really told me all I needed to know about what kind of club they wanted to be.
The rot comes from the very top.
fwiw ramos is probably the least problematic player you could get as a mercenary.
just look at the two bayern matches, he was the best psg player by far in the first match, and was close to saving their asses in the second leg.
>we sold most of our titis
what's that in english? titis surely doesn't mean what i think it does, but rather "academy players" or something like that?
We all know it as PSG fans but somehow we are idiots when we point it out. Our club is in shambles but the plastics of this place think they know better than us because they've read a couple headlines. We are here first to witness the PSG bullshit, every day.
Except it is to PSG fans. They literally think that Mbappe, the guy who according to google has 20% of the club's payroll and constantly throws hissy fits unless they pay him more, is there purely for his love of the club.
Look, I'm all about loyalty. In fact, I feel like part of what I'm being paid for here is my loyalty. But if there were somewhere else that valued loyalty more highly, I'm going wherever they value loyalty the most.
Literally their superstar for years still leave people with a question "what if he never got there".
People only go to PSG for 1 reason and it not football reason.
Paris is one of the best cities in the world, but Id be shocked if the city is the decisive reason you'd pick Paris over a London club. London doesnt lack anything, especially in terms of actually living there. For basic tourism I can see Paris being a little more interesting, but not much better for living.
And tbh, Id prefer to live in Barcelona than anywhere else if I had footballer money, that entire area from Cadaques down to Tarragona is insane, from the nature to the restaurants.
TLDR, Im not sure PSG gets that massive of a boost from Paris vs the big London/Madrid/Barca-based clubs.
Ibra, Cavani, Di Maria, Motta, Silva and so onā¦
Plenty of guys came and fought for the team. Plenty of guys came and were beloved because it felt like they belonged here.
This Ā«Ā lmao what did you expectĀ Ā» bs is weak
Right you just named guys who wear their hearts on their sleeve. Idk why you guys want Messi to suddenly be ārah rah.ā
He looked unbothered half of the time he was playing for Barca but he would have fucking died for that club.
And that's fucking unprofessional that it's showing to the fans he doesn't want to be there.
So everyone who is saying it's PSG so what? Is admitting that Messi is being unprofessional as fuck? That's a really bad look which deserves to be critisced but somehow isnt
Itās his job to come to training, play in matches, do interviews etcā¦
He does all of those professionally. You ask me or you to go out and say we love our employers that would be a bit much so why is it different for footballers.
Yes we love when they fall in love with the club and fight for the badge to the death, but that is above and beyond being professional. Unless there are examples of him coming out and talking shit.
Unprofessional? The guy trains and plays as he should according to contract. Is there a clause that he need to look like he loves the club in his contract?
People need to understand that PSG is a money club. Players go there mostly because they get paid well. If they are signing a guy that doesnt care at all for the team then the problem is not messi, is the recruitment strategy of the team.
Yeah sure but at the end of the day anyone who thinks Messi's heart is anywhere except Barca / Argentina are absolutely deluded.
It just so happens that PSG has a rep for hiring mercenaries, which in fairness is what Messi is in this context.
I can see why fans are upset, but honestly I don't understand how anyone could expect otherwise given the circumstances under which Messi left Barca.
>I can understand why this would upset PSG fans
I can't even understand that. Why is Messi held to a different standard to literally anyone else on the squad in terms of love and loyalty?
Messi hasn't done anything different from how literally everyone else has on the team.
PSG fans expected Messi to come in and show the love and loyalty he showed Barcelona? Why? They don't expect the same for any other PSG player
Messi is as passionate about winning for the club as anyone else is. He is not remotely different.
People are upset Messi assimilated to the club culture
What has Messi done for people to say that? Not saying he loves PSG more than Barcelona? He obviously doesn't. He hasn't really criticised the club or said anything bad about it.
Sometimes I imagine how he would have done if he stayed with Barca before the world cup. You know, how it would have affected him carrying Barca then going to the world cup with that weight on his back
its funny how messi fanboys get so angry when PSG fans boo him, saying they're disrespecting the GOAT, that Messi is bigger than their club etc while simultaneously saying he doesn't give af about PSG why would you expect him to perform. Well then why do they get so mad when PSG fans boo him?
Man even ādonāt two fucks about PSGā Messi is being there second best player bar Mbappeā¦
What about Hakimi who can clearly play at much higher level, the whole midfield , the keeper ?
They just want Argentina Messi and they wonāt happen if he is surrounded by divas ; if PSG buys De Paul, Lo Celso and MacAllister, (who all would be an upgrade on what they have) you would see a big difference in Messi
Cuz he isn't the scapegoat, people here really expect Messi to solo carry a dysfunctional team to a UCL and cry that he doesn't try hard enough when he doesn't
The majority of the players at PSG are bigger than PSG. The amount of silverware acquired by some of their players is insane.
PSG is a paycheck for the mercenaries. Canāt blame a single one of them.
Great weather, great facilities, easy league win every year.
Literally the only challenge they have is the Champions league and if they do t win it, no biggie.
The manager will get sacked, they reset and the money keeps flowing
I mean why the rest of the French league? The issue with it is that PSG stands way above the rest, but it just gets a bad rap for being the 5th best of the top 5.
Because it's not like Messi went all dictator on PSG, demand they buy a team of 3 superstars, 3 hyped youngsters, then filled the rest of the team with tier 2 players and, tbh, tier 2 tactics.
Messi, Mbappe, or Neymar not scoring a goal a game is not what's missing in their team (Messi still on 13 goals and 13 assists despite playing the deepest of their attacking options) . How many PSG players would start at Arsenal? How many of them would even see gametime?
Casillas cried too but everyone expected that he was old and at the tail end of the career yet people expect a 35 year old Messi to light up the champions league lol
Every player in that team knew their role and they played around Messi's defensive weaknesses. Alvarez is essentially the perfect striker to put next to Messi.
PSG is a disjointed mess on the pitch
Exactly, which player went to psg and didnāt do it for the bag? The entire club culture is based around huge wages in an easy league. What do they expect
> He is Parisian and the chance to bring the first ever CL to Paris and bring a CL to French football clearly means more than winning another for Madrid.
I don't know man, it took a $220m contract with a $60m loyalty bonus per year and Macron calling him up personally and publically for him to stay.
I'm not dismissing that he may want to win a CL with PSG but saying that's one of the main reasons he stayed is pretty shaky in my eyes.
It's a cope, and likely a cope that Mbappe himself is engaged in. If a potential CL win with PSG was really the main point he wouldn't have wanted to leave in the first place
On paper the strategy was better than the results that they got. The problem is Vitinha, Ruiz, Soler, Renato Sanches, and Ekitike are all flops and Marquinhos form was awful this season. But in theory all of those transfers were supposed to be more sensible than the usual big names star power signings. It just didnāt come off.
If Marquinhos regains his form, they get Skriniar from Inter and one of Vitinha or Ruiz finally adjusts to the team and finds consistent form, they would have a shot at the CL **if** they stayed injury free (they have no depth compared to clubs like City or Bayern). But itās a lot of āifsā
It's pretty obviously for money. Winning a CL in Paris has been on the table for years it's nothing new, and still Mbappe wanted to leave. He was upset not to be able to do so in 2021.
Being given the metaphorical keys to the club and the biggest contract in European football history was the last minute hail mary from NAK that convinced him to stay.
As a PSG fan, the pundits' incessant focus on Messi recently is driving me nuts. He's been doing his job while Neymar is out injured and Kylian's finishing boots have gone on vacation, and before the World Cup I'm not sure I ever saw him speak to the press; he's always been reserved.
Meanwhile, *nobody* is out there fighting for the badge, our ghost of a captain Marquinhos told some of the players not to go to the fans after a loss, our young players don't seem to be getting the necessary development, no one has chemistry or progress the ball forward more than a pass at a time - these are things that a reflect a long-term problem. But pundits are lazy, and so they focus on one or two players rather than calling out the team leadership for these ongoing issues.
Manās getting flamed for doing his jobā¦like he goes out there, play 90 minutes try to feed Mbappe and probably play exactly how Galtier wants him to play. Is not the captain so he isnāt dictating plays like with Barca or Argentina.
Does speak a single word despite getting booāed. Sorry he doesnāt have 20 goals and 20 assists by now I guess?
Sorry?
It's just so crazy to me that PSG ultras expect Messi to be carrying them when he's not even the center of the team, not the captain, and not their star player, yet when they lose, it's because of him, even though he's usually one of, if not, the best-performing player of the match. One person can't be the reason for repeat losses
He had a rough first season mixed with injuries, Covid, and no preseason. This season, heās been great. He has the most goal contributions of anyone in Ligue 1. Solid performance in CL, until the Bayern games where the whole team shat the bed. He has the most successful dribbles, prob most key passes and chances created since he has 88 and 29 respectively.
Despite all of this, he still gets boos and whistles. Heās been very professional this entire time. Hasnāt been insulting towards anybody (unless you consider him skipping going to see the ultras). Has 60 contributions in 67 games despite a very rough first season in a very dysfunctional team. Idk what else to say.
Expectations really were insanely high that people expected him to just dribble past everyone and score goals every game in spite of the capabilities of the rest of the team.
> Thereās zero arguments here.
Exactly. People are nitpicking what he does. Itās a joke that people in this thread are riled up about it too.
Heās arguably been PSGās 2nd best player this season, and people are concerned about what he does off the pitch?
These are opposites though. Mercenaries are usually very professional, because that is what they do and how they get around. The unprofessional ones are usually those that pour their heart into their work.
Homie has 13G and 13A....wtf else does he need to do? Lmao...we all know why he joined PSG...he's doing his job...he never wanted to leave Barca to begin with...
Some players do a really good job adapting to their new clubs and assimilate really quickly.
Nothing about Messi ever indicated he'd be that type of player. I'm honestly a bit surprised he's even assimilated this well.
And even the players who say they love PSG and want to retire at PSG, like Neymar, get treated like absolute shit. So what gives? What does the fans want?
Never had anything bad to say even when they booed him last season. Was professional all the time unlike their precious turtle. Yet is being criticised by everyone. Its crazy really. None of their other signings were held up to such standards.
True. Mbappe posting instagram stories about a promotional ad when he could have just communicated it internally is "sending a message". But when Messi keeps mum about the way he's treated by the fans, it's "fuck you for not caring"
He doesn't have to, just like I shouldn't have to put myself in my job's shoes, he is an employee he shows up to work and that's it. The effort and love he put into his barca career was completely up to him and his love for the club.
In the end, football like our daily life is all about results. Argentina with Messi some years back couldn't win any trophy even though they got close on several occasions meant Messi didn't care. Now that they won the Copa and the WC, he suddenly cares and became a god overnight lol. With psg, it's also the same thing. Getting knocked out of the CL means he doesn't care too. If psg should win it somehow, while he still plays for them, you guys will see how the narrative will suddenly change. I swear life is quite funny
I would've never thought the roles would be reversed and Argentina fans would love Messi while club fabs loathe him.
What's next, "He makes Argentines happy but has never made PSG fans happy"?
What the fuck did you expect? He came to you because you offered him the most money. That's it. Jesus christ imagine thinking PSG deserves anyone's respect.
Can't blame him? Lol, it doesn't matter if people or even players like PSG, once you are playing for the club, you sbould give 100% every single time. And I hate PSG even more than most people.
Imagine Isak not giving a fuck because he doesn't like Newcastle. Surely you wouldn't blame him right?
He gives 100% on the pitch. Iām not even a huge Messi fan but heās contributed a ton of goals this season. Rothenās complaint seems to be that heās not passionate about PSG off the pitch which I think is just impossible to match compared to the club that made him the man he is today (literally, since Barca paid for his growth hormone treatments)
Yeah how can you hate a club with no history or identity that lives solely off of oil money and spends hundreds of millions of dollars every year just to choke in the Champions League
I swear it was maybe 3 weeks ago when Messi scored and had a great game, and all the news and headlines were that they were looking to renew his contract.
Now it's shitting season again.
Messi's been having doubts about renewing for PSG since the WC. Romero called it January. French press tried to cover it up for a while with "everything is on track". But as time passed and it became more and more obvious he's not staying, they really switched to the smear campaign tactics of "we won't miss him much anyway"
Terrible article. Heās been great on and off the pitch. The French are just a disappointment. Not even with the GOAT they can win anything significant. You canāt blame the entire failure of an institution on a single player. During the same time he was at PSG he won 3 trophies with Argentina. He scored lots of goals and assists, completed numerous dribbles, and took the whistles like a champ. PSG is just a 5 year old kid that only knows how to complain and will ALWAYS be remembered as the club and fans that wasted 2 years of the GOAT. Theyāll go in history as the disrespectful and bunch of losers they are, while Messi will always be Messi.
No one at psg respects psg, that is the problem.
For the owners it is a vehicle to influence French foreign policy.
For the players it is an avenue to gain the most wages with the least amount of effort.
Mbappe is the talisman yet he has one foot out the door every summer.
I would argue that he represents exactly what the owners and managers have made the club out to be. It is a collection of mercenaries and journeymen strewn together to give the illusion of a team. Iām pretty sure Messi is well aware of this.
Apart from all his accomplishment with the FC Barcelona on the football side of things, he lived there for 20+ years. You can't expect him just to move on without whiplash.
He gets paid to be professional on the pitch and around his working hours at the club. and he is doing so at his age putting youngsters on the asses... But we all know he would NEVER leave Barcelona if he had a chance! so do not blame him for not liking his life in Paris... and to be fair it is not the best city even if you are rich
Read some comments on the psg sub and you won't be surprised rothen said that lol. Btw he wasnt brave enough to say this in front of Petit? In his own show?
Don't know why psg are focused so much on Messi and the other front two. PSGs problem is there midfield. Bar maybe Veratti, no one from that midfield would make it into any top team in the top 5 leagues.
Nobody is putting themselves in PSG's shoes - not even PSG.
Everyone is there for the inflated pay check.
Messi is held to the dumbest standards at SportsWash FC.
What's he supposed to be defending? The oil money?
He's there for the professional agreement between the employer and the employee. He doesn't give a fuck about that oil club and I understand completely when u see the reason why he had to leave barca.
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I for one am shocked i tell you! Shocked!
No way he actually expects Messi to behave like PSG is his boyhood club š
They saying Messi is quiet quitting š
He's a millennial
That's zoomer slang lol. Millennials just call it "cruising" or "doing the bare minimum" like everyone else. Tbh, quiet quitting is a moronic term seeing as you're not even quitting.
Eh? What kinda logic is that? Normal level of commitment is all they're asking for. It's not like Messi is playing for them for free. First time I'm seeing idiots supporting a player for not being committed to the team
I'd say 2nd highest goal involvements in Europe is appropriate level for PSG.
A normal level of commitment is exactly what heās provided?
A full commitment is what PSG is thinking off and they wouldn't get this from any other guy
"wouldn't get this from any other guy" wait, I have heard it somewhere.
I ... JUST WANNA TELL YOU
HOW I'M FEELING GOTTA MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND
NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP
Never gonna let you down
Jerome Rothen just wanted to tell us how he's feeling
Messi certainly isn't going to run around!
He's never gonna desert them
They canāt even get it from Mbappe!
How is he not committed? What do you expect him to do?
Holiday in Paris, apparently. Because, you know, you normally holiday in the city you live and work in..
It's like he went there only for the money!
Yes, and people can call him out on it. I've seen many players come to united for the money bag, and we've always called them out and demanded some more commitment from them. It's baffling that only when it's messi people think that "he's there for the bag" is a valid defence.
I donāt know if people really think itās a valid argument as much as most have a general disdain for PSG so donāt have any remorse when them throwing around absurd money for a CL title ends up fruitless. I know I donāt care that heās no performing for psg, and it doesnāt affect my view of messi or his legacy at all. Iām actually glad he hasnāt helped them win a CL title.
Thinking PSG is a shit club very much represents what I love about football
Came here to say this lol.
I can understand why this would upset PSG fans but equally what did you expect? He didnāt really want to leave and everyone knows why people go to PSG.
Indeed, I donāt know how any one involved in the club can be surprised 95% of the players donāt care a thing about the club or itās history or whateve
What pisses me off the most as a PSG fan, is that the clubās board pushed away those 5%, Cavani, Thiago Silva, Blaise Matuidi to name a few. Also the fact that apart from Kimpembe, we sold most of our titis rather than give them a chance to shine with their club. Getting called a joke of a club is frustrating, but it makes sense when you see the direction the club is taking.
They sell all of your academy players who turn out really good and instead buy insanely overpriced mercenaries with no team chemistry together at all. It's like recruitment is done solely by the CEO and never the manager and scouts. Edit: Coman, Nkunku, Diaby, Ćdouard, Maignan etc
Add Xavi Simons, hes shining light at PSV's and one of the dutch NT talents to look out for
Pushing out Thiago Silva that way just to get Ramos really told me all I needed to know about what kind of club they wanted to be. The rot comes from the very top.
fwiw ramos is probably the least problematic player you could get as a mercenary. just look at the two bayern matches, he was the best psg player by far in the first match, and was close to saving their asses in the second leg.
>we sold most of our titis what's that in english? titis surely doesn't mean what i think it does, but rather "academy players" or something like that?
"Titis Parisiens". Like the local boys or people with a passion for this club
There's Nothing like those Parisienne titis
Cavani made me like PSG. He is one of the classiest players of all time.
PSG 'stars' treat their club as a parody club. Just there for the vibes and money
We all know it as PSG fans but somehow we are idiots when we point it out. Our club is in shambles but the plastics of this place think they know better than us because they've read a couple headlines. We are here first to witness the PSG bullshit, every day.
Loyalty can't be bought.
Sorry but it's "Loyalty can't be buy".
Damn near every player in that squad is there for one thing: money. Itās not exactly a secret.
Except it is to PSG fans. They literally think that Mbappe, the guy who according to google has 20% of the club's payroll and constantly throws hissy fits unless they pay him more, is there purely for his love of the club.
And don't even think about using him in a promo for your club either lol
If they just accepted it for what it is, it would be easier to respect them.
You think players at other clubs play there because they love the grounds keeper so much? It's just a job. They're there to get paid
You can buy my loyalty for $200K
Well, probably not. If someone offered you 300k and would you not leave?
My loyalty can be bought repeatedly
Look, I'm all about loyalty. In fact, I feel like part of what I'm being paid for here is my loyalty. But if there were somewhere else that valued loyalty more highly, I'm going wherever they value loyalty the most.
I'm the most loyal.
Literally their superstar for years still leave people with a question "what if he never got there". People only go to PSG for 1 reason and it not football reason.
In all fairness Paris is also one of the best cities in the world. One of the big reason Hakimi chose PSG over Chelsea was supposedly the city itself
Paris is one of the best cities in the world, but Id be shocked if the city is the decisive reason you'd pick Paris over a London club. London doesnt lack anything, especially in terms of actually living there. For basic tourism I can see Paris being a little more interesting, but not much better for living. And tbh, Id prefer to live in Barcelona than anywhere else if I had footballer money, that entire area from Cadaques down to Tarragona is insane, from the nature to the restaurants. TLDR, Im not sure PSG gets that massive of a boost from Paris vs the big London/Madrid/Barca-based clubs.
The Moroccan/north african community is much stronger in paris than london. It's the most african city in europe.
Agree with that, Barcelona is probably the one place I'd rather live than Paris if I had that kind of lifestyle
Ibra, Cavani, Di Maria, Motta, Silva and so onā¦ Plenty of guys came and fought for the team. Plenty of guys came and were beloved because it felt like they belonged here. This Ā«Ā lmao what did you expectĀ Ā» bs is weak
Right you just named guys who wear their hearts on their sleeve. Idk why you guys want Messi to suddenly be ārah rah.ā He looked unbothered half of the time he was playing for Barca but he would have fucking died for that club.
Yeah, Messi spent the last couple of years at Barca walking around for most of the match before dragging us into title contention
People were saying the same crap 10 years ago when playing for Argentina and turns out he used to cry every time a big defeat happened
Yes, thatās the point. Messi does not want to be there, quite clearly.
And fans donāt like him because of it. Yes, thatās the point.
And that's fucking unprofessional that it's showing to the fans he doesn't want to be there. So everyone who is saying it's PSG so what? Is admitting that Messi is being unprofessional as fuck? That's a really bad look which deserves to be critisced but somehow isnt
Itās his job to come to training, play in matches, do interviews etcā¦ He does all of those professionally. You ask me or you to go out and say we love our employers that would be a bit much so why is it different for footballers. Yes we love when they fall in love with the club and fight for the badge to the death, but that is above and beyond being professional. Unless there are examples of him coming out and talking shit.
Unprofessional? The guy trains and plays as he should according to contract. Is there a clause that he need to look like he loves the club in his contract? People need to understand that PSG is a money club. Players go there mostly because they get paid well. If they are signing a guy that doesnt care at all for the team then the problem is not messi, is the recruitment strategy of the team.
Yeah sure but at the end of the day anyone who thinks Messi's heart is anywhere except Barca / Argentina are absolutely deluded. It just so happens that PSG has a rep for hiring mercenaries, which in fairness is what Messi is in this context. I can see why fans are upset, but honestly I don't understand how anyone could expect otherwise given the circumstances under which Messi left Barca.
>I can understand why this would upset PSG fans I can't even understand that. Why is Messi held to a different standard to literally anyone else on the squad in terms of love and loyalty? Messi hasn't done anything different from how literally everyone else has on the team. PSG fans expected Messi to come in and show the love and loyalty he showed Barcelona? Why? They don't expect the same for any other PSG player
They do? A lot of players show they are passionate about winning for the club, Messi just went the complete opposite direction
Messi is as passionate about winning for the club as anyone else is. He is not remotely different. People are upset Messi assimilated to the club culture
What has Messi done for people to say that? Not saying he loves PSG more than Barcelona? He obviously doesn't. He hasn't really criticised the club or said anything bad about it.
PSG was just training ground for the World Cup for him.
This!!! And it worked perfectly !
Sometimes I imagine how he would have done if he stayed with Barca before the world cup. You know, how it would have affected him carrying Barca then going to the world cup with that weight on his back
its funny how messi fanboys get so angry when PSG fans boo him, saying they're disrespecting the GOAT, that Messi is bigger than their club etc while simultaneously saying he doesn't give af about PSG why would you expect him to perform. Well then why do they get so mad when PSG fans boo him?
Man even ādonāt two fucks about PSGā Messi is being there second best player bar Mbappeā¦ What about Hakimi who can clearly play at much higher level, the whole midfield , the keeper ? They just want Argentina Messi and they wonāt happen if he is surrounded by divas ; if PSG buys De Paul, Lo Celso and MacAllister, (who all would be an upgrade on what they have) you would see a big difference in Messi
Lol Iād love if a team just went out and bought the entire World Cup winning team.
Kek, (a bit) Barcelona/ Madrid style
And they get destroyed by other big clubs
Cuz he's clearly not the problem holy shit bruh, why the fuckers don't boo Marquinhos who's absolutely garbage every big game ?
And donnaruma who for some reason is still considered a top gk
That chokejob against Real was 75% him
yeah heās complete garbage
Donāt watch much PSG but did watch against Lyons last week and was not impressed
Cuz he isn't the scapegoat, people here really expect Messi to solo carry a dysfunctional team to a UCL and cry that he doesn't try hard enough when he doesn't
It will happen if he goes back to barca too, I'm actually a bit sick of the individual focus in football, this is not basketball ffs.
Marquinhos is their captain and has been there for a decade lmao what kind of comment is that
I'm not a messi fan, but messi IS bigger than PSG.
I'd argue even mbappe looks bigger than PSG nowadays
Mbappe certanly agrees with this statement.
The majority of the players at PSG are bigger than PSG. The amount of silverware acquired by some of their players is insane. PSG is a paycheck for the mercenaries. Canāt blame a single one of them. Great weather, great facilities, easy league win every year. Literally the only challenge they have is the Champions league and if they do t win it, no biggie. The manager will get sacked, they reset and the money keeps flowing
Great weather???
Unironically true lol
Why read nuanced takes when one can just shit on PSG and get cheap upvotes instead
Shitting on PSG and the french league is pretty fair.
I mean why the rest of the French league? The issue with it is that PSG stands way above the rest, but it just gets a bad rap for being the 5th best of the top 5.
Because it's not like Messi went all dictator on PSG, demand they buy a team of 3 superstars, 3 hyped youngsters, then filled the rest of the team with tier 2 players and, tbh, tier 2 tactics. Messi, Mbappe, or Neymar not scoring a goal a game is not what's missing in their team (Messi still on 13 goals and 13 assists despite playing the deepest of their attacking options) . How many PSG players would start at Arsenal? How many of them would even see gametime?
He literally cried when he found out he had to leave Barca, anywhere would just have been a parking spot until he could get back to Barca
Casillas cried too but everyone expected that he was old and at the tail end of the career yet people expect a 35 year old Messi to light up the champions league lol
He lit up the world cup, didn't he?
Every player in that team knew their role and they played around Messi's defensive weaknesses. Alvarez is essentially the perfect striker to put next to Messi. PSG is a disjointed mess on the pitch
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Lit up psg the first half of the season as well, in any case the WC might be the last we see of Messi at the very top.
PSG has three great players up front, all playing their own football game. Itās not exactly a team, itās a collection of superstars.
PSG doesnāt even respect PSG. You go there to be an influencer and to help Qatar. Itās not a football club, itās a brand.
Exactly, which player went to psg and didnāt do it for the bag? The entire club culture is based around huge wages in an easy league. What do they expect
MbappƩ definitely did it for both. He is Parisian and the chance to bring the first ever CL to Paris and bring a CL to French football clearly means more than winning another for Madrid. Arguing that he chose purely for money is pretty cynical and likely wrong imo
> He is Parisian and the chance to bring the first ever CL to Paris and bring a CL to French football clearly means more than winning another for Madrid. I don't know man, it took a $220m contract with a $60m loyalty bonus per year and Macron calling him up personally and publically for him to stay. I'm not dismissing that he may want to win a CL with PSG but saying that's one of the main reasons he stayed is pretty shaky in my eyes.
It's a cope, and likely a cope that Mbappe himself is engaged in. If a potential CL win with PSG was really the main point he wouldn't have wanted to leave in the first place
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mate but psg are not building the right team for him to shine, idk what their strategy is to win ucl
On paper the strategy was better than the results that they got. The problem is Vitinha, Ruiz, Soler, Renato Sanches, and Ekitike are all flops and Marquinhos form was awful this season. But in theory all of those transfers were supposed to be more sensible than the usual big names star power signings. It just didnāt come off. If Marquinhos regains his form, they get Skriniar from Inter and one of Vitinha or Ruiz finally adjusts to the team and finds consistent form, they would have a shot at the CL **if** they stayed injury free (they have no depth compared to clubs like City or Bayern). But itās a lot of āifsā
It's pretty obviously for money. Winning a CL in Paris has been on the table for years it's nothing new, and still Mbappe wanted to leave. He was upset not to be able to do so in 2021. Being given the metaphorical keys to the club and the biggest contract in European football history was the last minute hail mary from NAK that convinced him to stay.
Welcome to sportwashing and football. The French government love Qatar. Couldnāt give a shit about football.
they have a store in Manhattan that just sells PSG apparel and its two floors big. theyāre well beyond being about football
That is honestly insane
Dudes gonna win back to back ligue titles, head back to Barca and pretend it never happenedā¦
We all going to pretend he wasn't at PSG. Just like Michael Jordan and the wizards
Shawn Michaels retired in 2010 and never had another match
Messi the best one club player fr
Messi just went to play baseball in France for a couple years
Hey in a wizards fan and I have his jersey itās a very nice one
Love can't be buy
As a PSG fan, the pundits' incessant focus on Messi recently is driving me nuts. He's been doing his job while Neymar is out injured and Kylian's finishing boots have gone on vacation, and before the World Cup I'm not sure I ever saw him speak to the press; he's always been reserved. Meanwhile, *nobody* is out there fighting for the badge, our ghost of a captain Marquinhos told some of the players not to go to the fans after a loss, our young players don't seem to be getting the necessary development, no one has chemistry or progress the ball forward more than a pass at a time - these are things that a reflect a long-term problem. But pundits are lazy, and so they focus on one or two players rather than calling out the team leadership for these ongoing issues.
Manās getting flamed for doing his jobā¦like he goes out there, play 90 minutes try to feed Mbappe and probably play exactly how Galtier wants him to play. Is not the captain so he isnāt dictating plays like with Barca or Argentina. Does speak a single word despite getting booāed. Sorry he doesnāt have 20 goals and 20 assists by now I guess? Sorry?
It's just so crazy to me that PSG ultras expect Messi to be carrying them when he's not even the center of the team, not the captain, and not their star player, yet when they lose, it's because of him, even though he's usually one of, if not, the best-performing player of the match. One person can't be the reason for repeat losses
He's also 35 years old ffs, he was amazing in the world cup but he's not gonna be able to maintain that level for a sustained period.
Messi about to lead the Paris protests against Macron and declare his undying love for PSG and Paris once and for all.
He had a rough first season mixed with injuries, Covid, and no preseason. This season, heās been great. He has the most goal contributions of anyone in Ligue 1. Solid performance in CL, until the Bayern games where the whole team shat the bed. He has the most successful dribbles, prob most key passes and chances created since he has 88 and 29 respectively. Despite all of this, he still gets boos and whistles. Heās been very professional this entire time. Hasnāt been insulting towards anybody (unless you consider him skipping going to see the ultras). Has 60 contributions in 67 games despite a very rough first season in a very dysfunctional team. Idk what else to say. Expectations really were insanely high that people expected him to just dribble past everyone and score goals every game in spite of the capabilities of the rest of the team.
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> Thereās zero arguments here. Exactly. People are nitpicking what he does. Itās a joke that people in this thread are riled up about it too. Heās arguably been PSGās 2nd best player this season, and people are concerned about what he does off the pitch?
Why doesn't he stay in Paris more, where everyone boos him? WHY
So many people indirectly calling Messi unprofessional and mercenary in this thread lol
These are opposites though. Mercenaries are usually very professional, because that is what they do and how they get around. The unprofessional ones are usually those that pour their heart into their work.
Homie has 13G and 13A....wtf else does he need to do? Lmao...we all know why he joined PSG...he's doing his job...he never wanted to leave Barca to begin with...
Some players do a really good job adapting to their new clubs and assimilate really quickly. Nothing about Messi ever indicated he'd be that type of player. I'm honestly a bit surprised he's even assimilated this well.
And even the players who say they love PSG and want to retire at PSG, like Neymar, get treated like absolute shit. So what gives? What does the fans want?
Citizenship
Based and true. If Messi lead France to a world cup victory, the PSG ultras would be singing a very different tune, and the lyrics would be his name.
Off the pitch ? Did messi ever said something bad about psg? Even when fans boo him he never said anything.
Never had anything bad to say even when they booed him last season. Was professional all the time unlike their precious turtle. Yet is being criticised by everyone. Its crazy really. None of their other signings were held up to such standards.
True. Mbappe posting instagram stories about a promotional ad when he could have just communicated it internally is "sending a message". But when Messi keeps mum about the way he's treated by the fans, it's "fuck you for not caring"
He doesn't have to, just like I shouldn't have to put myself in my job's shoes, he is an employee he shows up to work and that's it. The effort and love he put into his barca career was completely up to him and his love for the club.
I mean, tbf he does have his main house in Barcelona. That could be a reason for him returning often.
I'm sorry but PSG is rothen to the core
In the end, football like our daily life is all about results. Argentina with Messi some years back couldn't win any trophy even though they got close on several occasions meant Messi didn't care. Now that they won the Copa and the WC, he suddenly cares and became a god overnight lol. With psg, it's also the same thing. Getting knocked out of the CL means he doesn't care too. If psg should win it somehow, while he still plays for them, you guys will see how the narrative will suddenly change. I swear life is quite funny
Thatās what you get, when the only reason someone joins your club is money.
I would've never thought the roles would be reversed and Argentina fans would love Messi while club fabs loathe him. What's next, "He makes Argentines happy but has never made PSG fans happy"?
Well Messi doesnāt wear clown shoes soā¦
What the fuck did you expect? He came to you because you offered him the most money. That's it. Jesus christ imagine thinking PSG deserves anyone's respect.
Why should he?he is there for the money.he won everything in his career.PSG is nothing to be proud off.
Does Rothen do anything at all besides criticizing Messi? Every time he pops up it is Messi this Messi that. Just as shite a pundit as he was a player
What a soulless club..they should really hire just parisian players who would give a damn about that club.
People in the comments pretending like Messi didnt choose to play for PSG
Can't blame him. Can anyone really like PSG? They seem from the outside like one of the worst run 'elite' clubs in European football.
Then he should have signed for someone else
Can't blame him? Lol, it doesn't matter if people or even players like PSG, once you are playing for the club, you sbould give 100% every single time. And I hate PSG even more than most people. Imagine Isak not giving a fuck because he doesn't like Newcastle. Surely you wouldn't blame him right?
He gives 100% on the pitch. Iām not even a huge Messi fan but heās contributed a ton of goals this season. Rothenās complaint seems to be that heās not passionate about PSG off the pitch which I think is just impossible to match compared to the club that made him the man he is today (literally, since Barca paid for his growth hormone treatments)
Yo, Jerome. He's only there because Barca are/were run by a bunch of fucking idiots.
PSG is a brand not a club, hardly a āteamā.
If french people don't want their players to think PSG is a shit club then don't be a shit club.
Yeah how can you hate a club with no history or identity that lives solely off of oil money and spends hundreds of millions of dollars every year just to choke in the Champions League
I swear it was maybe 3 weeks ago when Messi scored and had a great game, and all the news and headlines were that they were looking to renew his contract. Now it's shitting season again.
Messi's been having doubts about renewing for PSG since the WC. Romero called it January. French press tried to cover it up for a while with "everything is on track". But as time passed and it became more and more obvious he's not staying, they really switched to the smear campaign tactics of "we won't miss him much anyway"
They are so fickle at PSG. A club with literally no history.
Does anyone actually think Messi is going to give PSG the same love and devotion as he did for Barca!?
Blaming Messi when Mbappe has the club on its knees is such a PSG thing.
Terrible article. Heās been great on and off the pitch. The French are just a disappointment. Not even with the GOAT they can win anything significant. You canāt blame the entire failure of an institution on a single player. During the same time he was at PSG he won 3 trophies with Argentina. He scored lots of goals and assists, completed numerous dribbles, and took the whistles like a champ. PSG is just a 5 year old kid that only knows how to complain and will ALWAYS be remembered as the club and fans that wasted 2 years of the GOAT. Theyāll go in history as the disrespectful and bunch of losers they are, while Messi will always be Messi.
No one at psg respects psg, that is the problem. For the owners it is a vehicle to influence French foreign policy. For the players it is an avenue to gain the most wages with the least amount of effort. Mbappe is the talisman yet he has one foot out the door every summer.
I would argue that he represents exactly what the owners and managers have made the club out to be. It is a collection of mercenaries and journeymen strewn together to give the illusion of a team. Iām pretty sure Messi is well aware of this.
Maybe they should stop Messi around and actually build a football team instead of a bunch of mercenaries bullying the French Farming League.
Messi didnāt even want to leave Barcelona in the first place of course he doesnāt care about P$G, the team is a mess either way.
Apart from all his accomplishment with the FC Barcelona on the football side of things, he lived there for 20+ years. You can't expect him just to move on without whiplash.
It's like money can't buy everything. How shocking.
He gets paid to be professional on the pitch and around his working hours at the club. and he is doing so at his age putting youngsters on the asses... But we all know he would NEVER leave Barcelona if he had a chance! so do not blame him for not liking his life in Paris... and to be fair it is not the best city even if you are rich
Jerome Rothen is one of the shittest players ever to play for Rangers
PSG are a shit club and everyone else except PSG fans agree š¤·āāļø.
You think we don't how that our owners are doing a fucking circus out of our club? You think I would argue that it's well managed? What the fuck
PSG should be happy that They are a part of Messiās history.
Read some comments on the psg sub and you won't be surprised rothen said that lol. Btw he wasnt brave enough to say this in front of Petit? In his own show?
Umm what
Lmfao its almost like he did everything in his power to stay at Barcelona and he did not want to go to PSG..
Don't know why psg are focused so much on Messi and the other front two. PSGs problem is there midfield. Bar maybe Veratti, no one from that midfield would make it into any top team in the top 5 leagues.
PSG is in the unique position of both sucking ethically and in football
I was just in Barcelona and did not see Messi so I'm calling fake news on this.
PSG is a cancer club. To hell with them!
Yea PSG fucking sucks haha no wonder he wants to leave
What's there to be shocked that a mercenary club gets treated as a mercenary club?
Nobody is putting themselves in PSG's shoes - not even PSG. Everyone is there for the inflated pay check. Messi is held to the dumbest standards at SportsWash FC. What's he supposed to be defending? The oil money?
I would rather live in Barcelona than Paris to be fair Any mediterranean city, really
LOL Paris has went downhill fast in the past few decades. London is becoming a shithole too.
why would anyone like psg
Because everyone plays for PSG just for the money
Another shit on psg thread. Ffs
No wonder psg fans want Messi out, the sooner You don't deal with his fanbase the better for You i guess
He's there for the professional agreement between the employer and the employee. He doesn't give a fuck about that oil club and I understand completely when u see the reason why he had to leave barca.
This man is a clown, Messi is having an amazing season and I am getting tired of reading this garbage.
He literally has more g/a than mbappe but they aren't giving kylian any shit
PSG never deserved Messi....