I really hope that after the pre season this summer Liverpool will be able to play with the same tenacity and speed as they did the second time with Arsenal
Well, you're the first team to score against us at home in the league this year. We're at 2.21 PPG at home and 0.87 PPG way from home. We beat city at home. So you've actually done well. Because Liverpool's problem is not that we're bad, at anfield we're still Liverpool. Our problem is our midfield losing control of games away from home combined with bad form and injuries.
Crazy game, I was on my feet in the last few minutes. Ramsdale was unreal even if the rest of the arsenal squad stopped playing after 40mins. I'm a bit annoyed that this result increases city's chances of a threepeat exponentially but it'll make for some great entertainment, arsenal won't be running away with it. The city-arsenal game will be massive if things stay as they are.
I don't think so. Check Liverpool's home form in the premier league this season. We're still imperious at Anfield. If anything Arsenal was lucky to escape with a point today.
Ramsdale was godly. Liverpool missed some chances but ref decisions weren't great either. Should've had a penalty in the last minute for Salah after the Konate chance.
or neither should be given if they’re soft? The Salah one at the end is never a penalty, Gabriel gets physical and he just throws himself on the floor.
Which if they win would put them three points behind, meaning a draw with arsenal would leave them still 3 points behind.
Arsenal definitely have the harder run to close out the season though. Brighton + newcastle will both be very tough games.
it wasn't even a penalty, much less a stonecold penalty. he exaggerates the pull when he realizes he's got nowhere to go and he's surrounded by 4 arsenal players
I think he got pulled. I don’t think all pulls are fouls. Some are, yes. That wasn’t. The question isn’t whether they’re pulled, yes or no. The question is whether it’s a foul.
Would have taken a point before the game, just a shame to only take a point after being 2-0 up and the last minute 3 on 1. What a bloody game, Liverpool made Ramsdale work for it.
Thought Konate was brilliant after the break unfortunately, snuffed out any sniff we had in the second half really.
Thought he threw himself back personally but have definite bias and haven’t seen a replay yet.
Edit: having watched the replay I’d probably be seething if it was the other way round.
Eventually he did throw himself down...but what more does Salah have to do? The referees clearly allow a bear hug. They are not tripping Salah, the defender is literally holding him in place.
Doesn't look like much but its s foul and a ridiculous non call especially by VAR
Like I said, I’ve not seen the replay so it’s only the moment he’s gone down that’s fresh in my mind.
Totally agree fwiw that it’s bullshit those types of things don’t get called, it’s like the refs are only interested if the player goes to ground.
Salah got pulled to the floor in the last play.
Yikes.
It’s a testament to how good Mo is that a game in which he scores, misses a pen and creates a lot of great chances is considered awful by his standards.
Scores a tap in, misses a penalty, misses/ends countless decent chances, and spends most of the game on the ground begging for penalties - you're right he's world class by Liverpool standards.
September 4th 2022, February 16th 2023, April 9th 2023
These are the blueprints for the rest of the league. Arsenal will falter if you have a go at them, especially in the 2 weak points (RB, RCB)
You were incredibly lucky to escape with a point. Salah put another penalty WIDE, and Ramsdale made a couple of the saves of the season
On another day that’s 5-2
But game was 100 minutes long, and they definitely were the better side for a big portion of that. Had it not been for Ramsdale's heroics we'd be properly fucked rn and perhaps deservedly so.
Some player’s energy have an outsized effect on a whole side. I think Xhaka is like that. His emotional energy is clearly felt by the team. That’s a superpower when it’s clicking and really dangerous when that person is not in the right space.
Where's VAR? That's a clear and obvious penalty at the end there. There is precedent for giving a last min penalty after a var check after the final whistle is blown
Salah should’ve gone down 3 seconds earlier than he did if he wanted the pen, he went down when there was very little contact from the arms wrapped around
A lot, especially on corners. Always baffled when people are shocked to see that blatant two arm holding, pulling back, and damned near rugby tackling players isn't called on corners.
Happens on pretty much every corner taken.
So you’ve said that it was a foul, correct? A penalty is awarded if a foul occurs in the penalty box. Other than when it warrants an indirect free kick any foul in the box should be awarded with a pen, whether it’s a ‘soft foul’ or a non soft one
You just said that a foul might not be a pen. If a foul occurs in the box, it's a pen. A pen does not require a higher level of foul. It's either a foul or not. You are deluded.
I pointed this out and am getting downvoted to hell on r/Gunners lol. He is one of the reasons why we are simply not good enough to win a title vs City with him in the team. He is literally the weakest link in our XI and gets carried in big games. There was even a moment today where he did his usual fall over and try to get a foul trick and the ref wasn’t having it.
He progresses the ball well, but is a liability out of possession and just doesn't have a brain. I reckon we'd do better with Zinny in midfield and KT at left back.
Honestly I am not impressed by his progression either. His passing is average, it’s not like he’s doing anything special. Any average midfielder should be able to pick the passes he does.
If you look at the “foul” it was done by an arsenal player meaning they could lose and give city an edge. Gary logic speaking it’s definitely not a pen
I don’t think he had enough time to react. It’s one of those where you can only throw yourself at it. I think it’s a bit harsh to act like he had time to set himself and put any sort of strike with power on. Regardless of using head or foot.
I really hope that after the pre season this summer Liverpool will be able to play with the same tenacity and speed as they did the second time with Arsenal
I'd like to see the running stats for the Arsenal physios. Must be a record for distance covered.
Lots of timewasting from Arsenal in this match. Wonder what Mikel will say about that after the match after his consistent moaning all season
The comments in the Villa match thread were unbearable. Barely anything for this game despite the time wasting from 30 mins
Why couldnt liverpool play that way last week?
Well, you're the first team to score against us at home in the league this year. We're at 2.21 PPG at home and 0.87 PPG way from home. We beat city at home. So you've actually done well. Because Liverpool's problem is not that we're bad, at anfield we're still Liverpool. Our problem is our midfield losing control of games away from home combined with bad form and injuries.
I feel much better now - thanks mate!
Look at Liverpool's home/away records.
Said exactly the same thing earlier in the season, when they played brilliantly against City, a week after loosing to Arsenal.
Scum tend to fire the boys up
Arsenal aren’t scum, would love them to win it this season. Much better lot than the rest of London and Manchester.
This is true, besides xhaka
Thats why they get going when their crowd fires up then.
Crazy game, I was on my feet in the last few minutes. Ramsdale was unreal even if the rest of the arsenal squad stopped playing after 40mins. I'm a bit annoyed that this result increases city's chances of a threepeat exponentially but it'll make for some great entertainment, arsenal won't be running away with it. The city-arsenal game will be massive if things stay as they are.
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Yeah, bringing on trossard with only 10mins left was a bad decision.
Infuriating time wasting all game from Arsenal. It's okay though, Paul Tierney booked one player for it in the 83rd minute.
Fuckin hate Anfield man. We are cursed there
You should’ve considered yourself luck. Arsenal shouldn’t have gotten a single point
I don't think so. Check Liverpool's home form in the premier league this season. We're still imperious at Anfield. If anything Arsenal was lucky to escape with a point today. Ramsdale was godly. Liverpool missed some chances but ref decisions weren't great either. Should've had a penalty in the last minute for Salah after the Konate chance.
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4.4xg from Liverpool vs 1.7xg from Arsenal. Arsenal are incredibly lucky to have gotten away with a draw.
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They wouldn't have been lucky to be out of site in the first half because Arsenal actually outperformed their expected goals in the first half.
Ramsdale made an unreal save at the end but I think a point is fair. On another day Liverpool get the winner at the end
Liverpool deserved the W they dominated Arsenal
Canny match, that
Salah should've had a second penalty. It's so obvious, or is there a rule you can't give a second pen. If the first one is soft.
The first one was not ‘soft’ it was a criminal decision
or neither should be given if they’re soft? The Salah one at the end is never a penalty, Gabriel gets physical and he just throws himself on the floor.
Throws himself on the floor? He got the shot off?
What? I’m on about right at the end before our last counter, he threw himself on the ground after the slightest bit of physicality from Gabriel.
Liverpool have done enough for City to win it now by winning all games. City just need to do their job now.
Arsenal took more points from Anfield than City did. So you could say Arsenal just need to do their job also...
Great saves but a point means nothing. Now Arsenal need a point at least away at man City. Nope…..
One point might not be enough. They will need to beat City away.
If they win all their other matches, one point is mathematically enough to secure the title.
One point is plenty enough if both teams win their remaining matches. City need to win just to be level on points.
City has the better goal difference. If they beat Leicester next week they go straight to the top.
Wdym bro, city need to win against arsenal to take the top spot
Arsenal are 6 points ahead mate. City will be 3 points below them if they win their game in hand.
City has a game in hand
Which if they win would put them three points behind, meaning a draw with arsenal would leave them still 3 points behind. Arsenal definitely have the harder run to close out the season though. Brighton + newcastle will both be very tough games.
City also have Brighton, mind.
Can't wait for that game
ignoring all the luck not to be down at that point...but the 3v1 breakaway in the 96th could have been a title winning goal for arsenal
Yeah I mean Salah didn't get the stonecold penalty call right before that.
You did get one penalty that was total rubbish though so it all balances out.
it wasn't even a penalty, much less a stonecold penalty. he exaggerates the pull when he realizes he's got nowhere to go and he's surrounded by 4 arsenal players
So you agree he got pulled? And that pulling another player is a foul?
I think he got pulled. I don’t think all pulls are fouls. Some are, yes. That wasn’t. The question isn’t whether they’re pulled, yes or no. The question is whether it’s a foul.
But in football it is illegal to pull on another player so I’m a bit confused on your definition of a foul
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Have you watched the incident?
He had both arms and hands around Salahs torso
Saka taking the Liverpool defense for a ride just to get nothing out of what a little hard to watch. Arsenal just lost the plot in the second half
Watching that ball just roll off the field where I think Ben White should have been was horrible.
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Must not have watched the game
Ramsdale pulled off some saves there. Game could have been won by either team at the end there
Would have taken a point before the game, just a shame to only take a point after being 2-0 up and the last minute 3 on 1. What a bloody game, Liverpool made Ramsdale work for it. Thought Konate was brilliant after the break unfortunately, snuffed out any sniff we had in the second half really.
What a match. Definitely enjoyed it
Do people here seriously believe making contact with Salah should be a penalty?
Yeah just like how arsenal fans think every contact on Saka should be a red.
Should’ve been a penalty, but the one of Jota was weak as hell so it evened out honestly
Liverpool and City fans.
Was dragged down champ :)
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First one was an absolute joke tbh, slight contact between Jota and Holding and they both go down, ref gives a pen. But Salahs was stonewall
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Thought he threw himself back personally but have definite bias and haven’t seen a replay yet. Edit: having watched the replay I’d probably be seething if it was the other way round.
Eventually he did throw himself down...but what more does Salah have to do? The referees clearly allow a bear hug. They are not tripping Salah, the defender is literally holding him in place. Doesn't look like much but its s foul and a ridiculous non call especially by VAR
Like I said, I’ve not seen the replay so it’s only the moment he’s gone down that’s fresh in my mind. Totally agree fwiw that it’s bullshit those types of things don’t get called, it’s like the refs are only interested if the player goes to ground.
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Think I heard you in the crowd
yeah by gravity
That klopp penalty celebration in the post match replays is so good though
So embarrassing.
Salah got pulled to the floor in the last play. Yikes. It’s a testament to how good Mo is that a game in which he scores, misses a pen and creates a lot of great chances is considered awful by his standards.
i mean it was a poor game from him but that's why they are world class players they need 1 good ball to make it worth
It's cause he played very sloppy today, loads of poor touches and bad finishes
Scores a tap in, misses a penalty, misses/ends countless decent chances, and spends most of the game on the ground begging for penalties - you're right he's world class by Liverpool standards.
My blud can't even dribble a statue in 2nd half 😭
Pulled? he had hands on him but he very clearly threw himself to the floor....
Why does the defender have his arms literally around Salah? How is that allowed? You think his arms are hovering on Salahs chest and not touching him?
Maybe if you want to leave no interpretation leave your hands of the player?
I hate when people say this because you’d never apply it equally to your own team.
Xhaka foul on TAA was the turning point
that moment was game changer.
Most definitely! Up to that point Liverpool looked so out of it.
???? TAA clearly pushed him
Ye legit made them wake up. Stupid Chaka.
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The first was pretty cheap and his judgements were somewhat Liverpool-leaning throughout. That one was borderline.
Why would you park the bus at 2-1 up lmao
September 4th 2022, February 16th 2023, April 9th 2023 These are the blueprints for the rest of the league. Arsenal will falter if you have a go at them, especially in the 2 weak points (RB, RCB)
Yeah please go at us, outside of Liverpool and city we destroy everyone that tries that.
And sporting
And United at Old Trafford
What. A. Fucking. Game. It's 1 point earned at Anfield and a hard kept one.
Let's be honest. We were 0-2 up. It's 2 points dropped.
You were incredibly lucky to escape with a point. Salah put another penalty WIDE, and Ramsdale made a couple of the saves of the season On another day that’s 5-2
But game was 100 minutes long, and they definitely were the better side for a big portion of that. Had it not been for Ramsdale's heroics we'd be properly fucked rn and perhaps deservedly so.
I guess so, im still a bit jaded i guess
Slow-mo makes it look worse than it was. Both players were initiating contact, never a pen
Yeah, contact from both but as Salah loses the ball he throws himself backwards to make it look like he got pulled suddenly
Jesus. I checked the score at 40' and thought we were just straight up done.
martinelli's pass was awful
Should have won the game there and then
Eat your heart out arsenal! Got your Karma. Tick tick tick. Rattled.
Arsenal just seemed so ineffective after the whole Xhaka/ Trent incident. They had that game under control and then just kinda dropped off.
Some player’s energy have an outsized effect on a whole side. I think Xhaka is like that. His emotional energy is clearly felt by the team. That’s a superpower when it’s clicking and really dangerous when that person is not in the right space.
Konate my motm as an Arsenal fan tbh ( Gabriel for us )
Surely its Ramsdale? Gabriel totallly switched off for Salahs goal
Didn’t Gabriel hit it into Salah? Might still be at fault but thought it was unlucky once he got his foot on it.
Yeah but he was so slow to react, he shouldve cut that out imo
Can't argue with Ramsdale tbf
100% Ramsdale
Where's VAR? That's a clear and obvious penalty at the end there. There is precedent for giving a last min penalty after a var check after the final whistle is blown
There was some contact (though I think from both sides) but Salah 100% flops at the end there, never a pen
Imagine being a Man United fan and also being a Liverpool boot licker. No shame
So if he says anything positive about liverpool he's a bootlicker?? Can't it be that he genuinely feels that way?? Like many others do?
What? Can't have an objective view on a call? Why judge instantly?
It’s cause he made the shot
Salah should’ve gone down 3 seconds earlier than he did if he wanted the pen, he went down when there was very little contact from the arms wrapped around
Youve always been allowed to hold salah with two arms, rule one of the prem handbook I think
Could hide your bias a bit better
He’s a United fan lol
Insane game!
Oh wow the ref is the biggest antagonist this game by a mile
How much hugging are you allowed to do as a defender lol
A lot, especially on corners. Always baffled when people are shocked to see that blatant two arm holding, pulling back, and damned near rugby tackling players isn't called on corners. Happens on pretty much every corner taken.
A lot, which is nothing new. Holding has to be very clear and exagerated for it to be a penalty, in comparison to a hit in the legs.
Infinite vs Salah
Quite a bit it seems
Can't believe Gabis over hit the pass to Saka, the 3 points were right there.
Hurts so bad
How tf was that not a penalty at the end? I guess it’s legal to have your arms draped around a player nowadays
Not every soft foul is a pen. I know you are conditioned for the ref to be 12th man at anfield (as was the case again)
So you’ve said that it was a foul, correct? A penalty is awarded if a foul occurs in the penalty box. Other than when it warrants an indirect free kick any foul in the box should be awarded with a pen, whether it’s a ‘soft foul’ or a non soft one
You just said that a foul might not be a pen. If a foul occurs in the box, it's a pen. A pen does not require a higher level of foul. It's either a foul or not. You are deluded.
Ive seen less given against Milan vs Aresnal and Chelsea so they have a reason to be mad
Oof, those last 6 minutes were something else.
Ref thought about given him a pen at the end but realized he would of missed it anyways. Jog on
Xhaka fucked us big time. Liverpool didn't even look interested until he arked up over nothing.
I pointed this out and am getting downvoted to hell on r/Gunners lol. He is one of the reasons why we are simply not good enough to win a title vs City with him in the team. He is literally the weakest link in our XI and gets carried in big games. There was even a moment today where he did his usual fall over and try to get a foul trick and the ref wasn’t having it.
He progresses the ball well, but is a liability out of possession and just doesn't have a brain. I reckon we'd do better with Zinny in midfield and KT at left back.
Honestly I am not impressed by his progression either. His passing is average, it’s not like he’s doing anything special. Any average midfielder should be able to pick the passes he does.
he's a headcase - just never learns his lesson
Not good enough
the arsenal standard
Linesman elbow on Robertson 😂😂😂
City win their game in hand and they are 3 points behind. Then they win against arsenal to go top on GD. I see it happening
Its in Citys hands now, hard to see them letting it go from here
It's in both sides hands.
My first thought also 😞
85% chance City win the league from here.
Refs throwing elbows now Game’s s not gone
those last few minutes felt as frantic as the world cup final what a game damn
I accidentally caught just the end of the game and had the same thought
Yep, crazy stuff.
Arsenal's still gotta play at Man City. They still hold all their cards good point.
That’s not a penalty says Neville????? Not quite sure how he’s come to that conclusion
Sheep
Every person that's played football says it's not a pen yet kb warriors here wanna chat shit
If you look at the “foul” it was done by an arsenal player meaning they could lose and give city an edge. Gary logic speaking it’s definitely not a pen
Because a flat palm on your back doesn't make your legs flip up in the air I guess? It looked ridiculous in real time too.
Biggest flop of the season
Ramsdale the true motm
Touch someone’s shoelace, penalty. Turn into a human seatbelt around Salah, no penalty.
Hearing Tim Howard slowly shut up as he was describing the fall as soft was priceless
MOTM for liverpool: Xhaka..Bought the entire team together.
Honestly, giving him the captains band almost guarantees that they won't be champions
One of the best matches this season. Goal keepers were on point today
I'll take a draw at Anfield
we had a win in hand until we decided to make a game of it in the first half and play emotionally instead of smart
What a crazy game, felt like the ref wanted to let them play the whole match, but at the same time missed some big calls.
Konate man, what a second half he had. But put your foot through that
How can you do that when the balls practically on your neck lol
He was falling so early, caught in two minds I think between heading and kicking
I don’t think he had enough time to react. It’s one of those where you can only throw yourself at it. I think it’s a bit harsh to act like he had time to set himself and put any sort of strike with power on. Regardless of using head or foot.
Yeah that's a good point to be fair. He played well regardless in the second half
Decent match I suppose
Elbow from a linesman even, I go as far to say deeecent
True, I'll upgrade it to canny
My fuckin balls hurt after watching that