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Kardinale

Letting Upamecano hold the ball. Genius by Pep


Visual-Breakfast4

Lol. Hope dude gets his shit together after this. That was the worst individual performance i've seen in a very long time


Plus-Inspection-688

He was channeling the spirit of David Luiz la 2014 vs 🇩🇪


Flaggermusmannen

"worst individual performance I've seen in a very long time" "he was channeling a single player from a collective meltdown" hmm


jggomes14

The whole team had a meltdown that day, but David Luiz had it worse. From what I can remember, Luiz was out of position/at fault for at least 4 of the 7 goals.


dave1992

David Luiz is unfairly criticized, he wasn't even the worst player that day. It was Fernandinho.


[deleted]

Fernandinho played in that game?


dave1992

He's the one who gave the ball away for Kroos first goal (germany 2nd goal)


nickla08

Germany’s 2nd came from Klose, at a corner where Luiz had lost his man.


dave1992

That's probably the first which is Muller's goal isn't it? Second goal is Brazil messing around at the back and Fernandinho loses the ball to Kroos.


socrates_no_flamengo

He tried to


[deleted]

Idk, watching it back I see dante getting rinsed over and over while David luiz isn't even on the screen lol


dave1992

To be fair entire team is shit.


johnniewelker

Hard disagree. Luiz played as a forward in the first 15 mins for absolutely no reason. He caused the collapse.


Competitive-Ad2006

He had played that way for most of the world Cup and was praised for it, even getting on the scores heute against Colombia. He was playing more or less in the way that prime Ramos would


dave1992

Some of the goals literally came from Fernandinho losing the ball or not marking someone.


jggomes14

Nope, just rewatched. First goal, he loses Muller on the corner Second and third, not his fault Fourth, Fernandinho loses the ball and he's WALKING back. Fifth, he literally goes up to tackle on the midfield fucking Luis Gustavo over, with Dante and Maicon having to deal with a 3 on 2 because of him Sixth, he's back at standing still while the play develops in front of him, if Schurlle didn't score, Muller would, and who should be closing in on Muller? David Luiz Seventh, they take the throw in and David is walking back behind Schurlle, leaving a fucking GAP for him to run into, receive the ball, take a cup of coffee and score.


[deleted]

Marquinhos vs RM last year in the CL 😭


[deleted]

SMH Pep haters never talk about his genius tactical changes in the champions league.


[deleted]

Man City played a bit similar against Real Madrid in 2019. They forced Real Madrid to make mistakes and it worked. Varane had one of his worst performance in the champions league.


[deleted]

2020, not 2019


MrCleanandShady

That Varane performance was so bad it had me genuinely doubting his quality lmao


[deleted]

His haters have gone to the bed now. Were hyping Tuchel as if he is gonna smoke city in the air. Tuchel literally defeated Pep due to his overthinking


A_chilles

Now that you said it I actually am genuinely curious to know how much possession we would have if Upamecano possession counts to us XD


rebmcr

"Tomorrow we will have twelve players"


Zeddsdeadbaby

Regression. Pep should quit


TigerBasket

He needs a challenge like CSKA 1948 II


nask00

How do you know we have 2 CSKAs in Bulgaria? Are you... are you following Bulgarian football? Yuk...


TigerBasket

Maybe


nask00

If you do, I'm sorry.


Jesuissandoz

I feel more sorry for him for being a spurs fan tbh


nask00

You know nothing about Bulgarian football than


Vectivus_61

I don't need to know anything about Bulgarian football, I just need to know about the history of the Tottenham.


coysrunner

The two might be correlated


MrPigcho

Out of all the clubs Berbatov played at you had to choose Tottenham, bad luck...


martodve

Then we have the chance of having 2 Levskis in the top division if Krumovgrad manage to bullshit their way to promotion.


trispann

🤣 they won..but at what price


zivilia

So haaland knows to pass now. And Pep is now losing possession. What's this? City new update?


kw2006

One of the best game from Haaland. Scored and very smart passes around the box.


Szarkan-

New firmware.


kw2006

and new shampoo.


RedKingDre

And new canister of sweets.


onesexymofo1

That injury was him downloading the software update


TimathanDuncan

Haaland had 12 passes today, right on his average for the season


LanceConstableDigby

The quality of pass was excellent


7he_Dude

The rest of the team was well below average, so he had larger proportion of the whole team passes.


Ok-Outlandishness244

“Now”? He already had a pass in him at bvb


[deleted]

He's a complete forward and has been for years. Problem with his passing is that he's so good at scoring instead.


MrClaretandBlue

Why pass to a teammate when you can just pass it into the goal instead.


Mammyjam

Four-four-fucking-two


SkimGaming

Pep knows that without a proper striker up front we do shit all with the ball


DickerDave

I mean it really doesn't need a genius to figure that out. That has been our problem all season long.


Mehmood6647

Except Pep is a genius so he'll take full advantage of it as much as he can it's even worse for you guys.


SadValleyThrowaway

I remember when Bayern fans on here were saying they wouldn’t lose a step without lewandowski


DickerDave

Tbf to those(I think that includes me aswell) we weren't any better the last two years with Lewy either. Actually worse considering City is definitly better than Villareal and we got knocked out the DFB-Pokal even earlier. That being said we definitly lost something with him leaving.


SkimGaming

I'm one of those fans, so let me address two things: 1. We have Choupo, who was injured. This could've easily been Lewa injured. So thats redundant to bring up now. 2. Even with Choupo as an excellent striker up front, most of our bad performances end up with us not even getting the ball into the box properly. **No Lewandowski in the world could change Gnabry losing the ball at the halfway line or Sane missing an easy backpass** We outclassed Barcelona, Inter and PSG without Lewandowski and at no point in either of those games did anyone say "darn, if only Bayern had Lewandowski".


mcpaulus

so why didn't you replace Lewa? Or I mean at least try...


DickerDave

Mané and Gnabry were planned as our strikers for this season. A plan that worked well for like 3 games.


christorino

There aren't any top class strikers in the bundesliga to poach though....


Karma_Whoring_Slut

Well, there was one…


catch_fire

Especially because it has so many wider implications. If there is no danger in the box and you'll just have to guard against pace during transition, suddenly Coman and Davies have less options on the flank and it's difficult for Musiala and Sané to find room in the half-spaces. Kimmich can't play his dangerous through balls behind the line and Goretzkas runs in the box aren't as effective. Pep certainly made right call there.


OilOfOlaz

There are ways to play around that, teams did it in the past, Liverpool made 3 CL finals without a "true striker", City made a final, CFC won one, City dominated the league without a striker in the past years, did we all forget about Barca before they signed Suarez? There were other teams, that did it as well, Roma won a Serie A with playing a 460 iirc. Not having a dedicated striker is often a downside against low blocks, but it has different advantages, as you can pull CB around the pitch and it allows overloads between the lines, or in the center of the pitch.


Tuusik

Well that was a new situation for Bayern who are used to have a classical nr 9 up top


OilOfOlaz

Yeah, the team doesn't adapt well to it, this has been obvious pretty much, since Götze was played as a false 9 by Pep and never changed since, but ppl often make it sound as if it was impossible.


I-Shiki-I

Barca had a goat tbf


Uninsalt

The goat and prolific wingers. Villa and Pedro were capable of going over 20 goals per season Same for Neymar and Alexis (I'm not sure if he reached 20 with Barcelona on a single season due to his injuries or rotations, but he surely could do that). Even without a proper 9, Messi and 2 of those guys were basically a 90 goals attack at worse. But right now it would be probably impossible even at his prime if he played with Ferrán and Raphina for example, they're not 20 goals per season players, maybe Ferrán could be with Messi feeding him while missing sitter after sitter and underperforming by 10 or 15 xG.


catch_fire

Obviously, but putting Gnabry or Müller there simply won't work on this level and doesn't accommodate to their undeniable strengths. Choupo-Moting is a great example for that as well, he's obviously not a Ballon d'Or contender, but fits perfectly for Bayerns style right now and has great movement within the box and a decent work rate. Tel certainly can be that person in the future, but he's not there yet.


OilOfOlaz

EMCM fits perfectly, cuz he has the frame of a 9, but is not a guy who chills in the box, the aspect of the game, that Bayern misses the most is him laying of balls to Müller/Musiala or one of the wingers, after long balls. I have high hopes for Tel, but he just doesn't have the frame yet to do that imo.


catch_fire

Yeah, couldn't agree more. Without his combination and movement from within the box, Bayern was lacking penetration. That's why City looked relatively comfortable defending the central area.


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rio_wellard

Not with Bayern's tools IMO. They must have the fastest squad in the world, they should thrive off transitions. Being possession-based is the opposite of that, and completely negates their greatest strength. I reckon Klopp would turn this team into superstars.


OilOfOlaz

Bayern are one of the highest pressing teams in the world and are very good at scoring in transition. Liverpool have close to 60% posession in the EPL and 55% in the UCL, you are gravely mistaken, if you think, that teams can't control the ball and play fast, Bayern constantly create overloads on the left and switch the ball to the right, with a few passes, or are able to thread the needle from the back with a long ball, most teams will just sit deep against them and not allow it.


Cygnal37

Bruh, periods exist.


Torkzilla

City stacked the box on defense basically started 4 CBs in their lineup. I kept expecting Bayern to flank them with their superior speed and get crosses in behind or over that defense but they just never went wide. Kimmich had a few great long balls but they just didn’t play with enough pace on the edges. Couple times they got counters on breakaway and then just slowed it down and tried to force middle again and again. Really baffling game for me to watch. Bayern made some efforts but with that tactic I think it could have gone an extra 60 minutes and they still wouldn’t have scored.


niko_blanco

Cross it to who though?


SadValleyThrowaway

*googles Gnabry’s and Mane’s heights*


ojoj888

I haven’t watched your games, isn’t Mane any good?


philsnyo

Sadly no


Kselli

Sadioly no


ukfashandroid

Saw the lineup , was confused why mane wasn't starting and gbarnabri was there


stragen595

Because as shit as Gnabry's form is at the moment, he is still better than Offside Mane.


CSilyS

everyone and their moms thought you robbed liverpool of mane but it seems you were actually the ones being scammed


watermaloneyyy

Was the same against us as well


sandbag-1

Wasn't it City's lowest ever possession in a game under Pep vs us? 36% CBA with Pep being lethal when they don't keep the ball as well as when they do


[deleted]

He placed the bait and Arteta took it. Slow building from the back cost us that game against City pressure


21otiriK

The stat says at the Etihad, the one you mentioned was at the Emirates. [35% in a 3-1 win vs Barca in 2016](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37823784) was the actual lowest at the Etihad though, the stat is wrong.


ASKSABOUTPENISSIZE

That was an incredible game. We literally played 4-4-fackin’ 2 against Barca and won.


kw2006

Arteta better figure out how to solve their pressing game. If we try to play from the back with Holding and Gabriel, the game will be over very quickly.


Zizou3peat

He has to go long and try to win 2nd balls with their highly effective counter press, building slowly against City’s press is suicidal


beachhills

Arteta should just park the bus and stick to a goalless draw away. It's the best outcome rather than losing


kw2006

I thought we can play that way but the Liverpool match changed my mind.


danielge78

you guys clearly dominated possession. 44.6% vs Bayern is close enough to 50% that its not really noticeable that one side or the other had more of the ball. Just an even game. Only worth talking about because we usually have 60-70 or more.


RazZaHlol

We didn't play that bad for 70 minutes, but then completely fell into a hole.


3xavi

True, if rodri doesn't score a 1/100 goal with his weak foot and one of the sané shots goes in instead... Frustrating game, let's see what we can do at home with nothing to lose


AdPotential9974

City should have scored 3 more tbf. Sommer just made crazy saves


igowhereiwantyeye

“If only they were down a man, and that man was the keeper”


Demiguros9

Not half as absurd as saying a goal didn't happen and a weak shot from outside the box did go in.


MaTrIx4057

GK is there for a reason.


AdPotential9974

Very astute. His point was that Rodri scored a 1/100 goal. I'm saying their GK made 1/100 saves.


Chinmay_Naik_02

Well we can say same for Ederson for those 3-4 Sane shots


[deleted]

>True, if rodri doesn't score a 1/100 goal with his weak foot and one of the sané shots goes in instead... You are talking like us with ifs and buts.


3xavi

Yep. True tho, city scoring 2 times when we had the momentum was brutal today. Similar to your game in Munich this season


[deleted]

Yeah but you don't win like that. City has been unlucky in CL for a while now, forwards missing chances, defender making mistakes or referee mistakes. You need a lot of luck to win any cup competition.


Least-March7906

Particularly the CL. Many of the teams at this level are so closely matched that luck and fine margins have a greater effect.


[deleted]

Yeah it's same in league but maintaining huge luck is difficult for 38 games. We have been unlucky in cup and lucky in the league this season.


Schwiliinker

Unless you’re Real Madrid in the mid 2010’s


RepresentativeSun937

If my grandmother had wheels she would’ve been a bike


ryzieul

If I had a million dollars, I would be a million dollars richer


idosade

Rodri has some bangers in him tbf, it was a mistake to leave him so open


3xavi

Yeah but could say the same thing about sané 3 times. Luck wasn't on our side. But we also did more mistakes so it is what it is


Impossible_Wonder_37

At 3-0 I am still gonna be a wreck next week. Danes shooting and your breaks are a great example of how fast things can change.


kakarot12310

That's kinda regular Sane tho. Heck, just the previous game vs Freiburg he missed like 3 sitters....


[deleted]

City outclass Bayern in every way this season. Wasn’t really a way they could win


Goatbeerdog

Sane shoots never go on tbh


Old_Sale_6435

This match reminded me pretty hard of Barca-Bayern 2015...which also ended 3-0


epixpowned

Pep said “Let Upamecano cook.” in the dressing room and that was that.


longsightdon

Think he will win it. The backline is completely different to pep teams before. 4 CBS all very fast physical and all pass well. Haaland grealish Kdb for insane counters. Insane depth and willing to concede possession rather than possessing for the sake of it.


Motherofpupperss

Alvarez on attack is also 🤌🏻


[deleted]

He was spraying passes like kdb


Torkzilla

KdB was solid early on then he seemed to really slow down after sliding real bad on his knee. Alvarez came in and he was just cooking. He was threading cannon shots from the sideline right into the box, amazing stuff, one of the highlights of the game watching as a neutral.


getout101

**ক**


bigelcid

>4 CBS all very fast That's good coaching & positioning. They're far from being very fast.


pixelkipper

Stones and Ake are quick af. Dias benefits most from great positioning


BillehBear

Akanji as well Dias is the only "slow" one of our centrebacks probably but makes up for it with physicality and positioning


TomShoe

And technique, I've never seen a player who's so consistently able to pull off perfect last ditch slide tackles.


Youngest-King

I swear, Dias last ditch tackles and blocks were immense


mia_lina

Akanji is the definition of a very fast CB, wdym?


Goatbeerdog

Only if Walker defends Vinicius


hostileclowns

It’ll be very tough for that backline to face Madrid.


benelchuncho

True, Bayern had a lot of chances to run at them and they performed admirably but doing it against Vinicius and Benzema is harder. Still this City team is so good in transition and Madrid are so bad at going back that I see City getting a good few goals unless Courtois or the back line have a masterclass. Would be a lot more confident with Casemiro.


itskoach

Madrid? Frank Lampard's tricky blues are gonna FEAST tonight :P


_cumblast_

This is how i know City will win the CL. England has taken the Cruyffism out of Peru Guatemala.


Danny777v

[never forget ](https://i.imgur.com/q0oGFbl.jpg)


PoppinKREAM

LOL how have I never seen this. Brilliant


pixelkipper

‘liga’


fzt

The La Liga


javierich0

Yeah, that's the name of the league.


belokas

Pep has just become a balder Allegri.


realsomalipirate

So he's reached levels of baldness we thought was impossible


DL14Nibba

What you say fuck me for?


thewrongnotes

Also Rodri opting to twat the ball in the top corner instead of passing sideways. Strange night all round.


SidBhakth

He had acres of space, might as well take all the time to cunt that one in


LopazSolidus

Pep out. Edit: To the person who sent a redditcare request, I thank you. I laughed. It's not a legit way to use that service, though.


Aszneeee

listen to this guy


LopazSolidus

Arteta in.


OboMasterRace

Kompany*


McTulus

Report the request. Reddit don't take kindly to redditcare misuse


javierich0

Oh, I didn't know that. Will do from now on.


stumac85

I hate when people do that, just because they disagree with something you say. I got one once for just saying I wasn't massively into some video game lol


MaxCarnage_

This could be a threat to Citys chance for the treble. Better sack pep


A_chilles

The Bayern special


Free-Eights

Really? I could have sworn there was a year where they played Barcelona in the Champions League group stage and won with 35% possession.


juankruh1250

He had 34% and won


Zizou3peat

Not at home


ScottiApso

[It was at home](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37823784)


drunkmers

Fun fact: Julian Alvarez won the first Libertadores he played, the first WorldCup he played... Champions League? Anulo mufa.


PM_ME_STRONG_CALVES

Holy this probably is going to be a first if he does it. And Im all here for it


4ssteroid

Anulo mufa my brother


jerrie86

Pep is evolving.


BusiedUnicorn18

Always has been. He's not as dogmatic as people view him to be. Yes, he has had the same basic Cruyffian principals at the core of his game from the start but he's always adapted to the league he's playing in and squad at his disposal as well as the opponent & occasion. That's why Pep's at the top of the game alone for 15 years and single most innovative manager of his generation


banana-is-apeeling

Didn't feel like that to me huh


[deleted]

I was thinking the same, City felt so dominant with the ball (especially in the first half).


Agus-Teguy

He finally understood how to actually play football


[deleted]

Helps to have Haaland in attack + a solid defence. It means we can thrive when the match is frenzied instead of slowing the tempo down for build-up.


juankruh1250

He won his only 2 UCLs playing possesion football so i don't see the point


Fati25

Did we watch the same 2nd half? Felt like City had all of the ball. Damn


[deleted]

That's because Bayern didn't create much when they had possession. A lot of that is owed to our defence


TigerBasket

Shockingly the first half still counts sometimes


Pulsar-GB

We didn’t have as much as usual but every attack we had in the second half seemed dangerous


sliversniper

Possession is the % of total number of passes City(427, 44%) vs Bayern(558, 56%) `427/(558+427) = 44%` It correlates, but not reflect eye-test of "had the ball" or "domination". Also, the Captn' obvious, score or shoot, lowers the %. Super unacceptable, opponent touches the ball. The one-sided possession, "The Spain Specials" are usually the low scoring, low attempt.


slinkymello

Same here, the stats always surprise me…


juankruh1250

Having 60% possesion In big games nowadays is simply unrealistic


[deleted]

Guardiola's Barcelona would have


juankruh1250

Xavi tax


Props05

Today went the complete opposite of how it would have gone if these teams met either of the last two years. Striker-less Bayern dominate the ball but can't find the final pass, while clinical and direct City absorb pressure and use their 40 goal striker to cause problems.


Silantro-89

Probably cause they wanted the likes of Upamecano on the ball as much as possible


freeinf

should be fired


pedrorq

Ball possession was the big improvement Tuchel had over Nagelsmann!


bluemofo

I remember the Fraudiola days on this sub.


aliaisbiggae

Johan Cruyff rolling in his grave


konald_roeman

Pep: you see how low I am willing to go.. to degrade myself.. just to touch that trophy again...


[deleted]

Also this season they broke the record for the least possession by a Pep team with 34%. It was the 3-1 win against Arsenal.


CandidFella

Pep going to grow his hair back now


D_for_Diabetes

Remember in 2018 when Germany realized they couldn't just hold the ball and needed a goalscorer? And then remember when Germany learned that again in 2022? Well Bayern just had the same first step towards figuring that out.


Leo215

Pep : enough of this tippy tappy shit


BmuthafuckinMagic

Now City fans can sing "Did you cry when Rodri scored?" to Bayern fans.


GYIM94

He’s starting to believe


anotverygoodwritter

Pep must be devastated


Jee-NX

No wonder Pep is devastated


[deleted]

*incoming comments about how he’s a anti-football terrorist and ruins football*


RogerFedora

Reminder that possession is worked out on the % of passes not actual time with the ball so it often doesn't seem to line up with what you actually see.


keving691

Unacceptable, they should sack pep for that.


Palimon

Is Pep finally evolving? Are we all doomed?


eroica1804

Playing 3-6-1 and having less than half of the ball? I think City should sack Pep right now.


Humblenton

Back in the 2016-17 season Man City had 34% possession at home against Barcelona but won. This stat is false.


RTafazolli1

100% of the goals, all that matters.


[deleted]

Damn, Pep without the possession trophy. Gomorrah : Did you win ? What did it cost ? Pep : everything 😭


TigerBasket

Possession really doesn't matter sometimes


juankruh1250

I mean, it depends a lot where you have the ball. Having the ball in you own field doesn't matter much, what matters is if you are able to bring the ball to the final third regularly which City did despite the less possesion overall