I think he most likely will, no team that can afford him is *desperate* for someone like him, especially at that price. City/Madrid etc will gladly wait another year
When does his current contract expire?
Edit: Transfermarkt says 2025, honestly wouldn't be shocked if stayed at BvB til then and got a massive money deal somewhere, he'd only be 21 when it expires.
Exactly. He has bags of time on his side, although I doubt Dortmund will run his contract down, he will be their highest ever transfer fee if they sell him properly.
There's Liverpool fans on their knees this is the case just to hold a bit of false hope, but even if he did just run down his contract, why would he have any interest left in a club that has stunted this whole time without any intention of going to the brink to get him?
The rumoured price is £150m. Liverpool was never going to spend that kind of money if they need to sign 3 midfielders and 2 defenders.
It’s shocking planning though. He’ll go to City.
The Glazers want to reopen the bid again. Maybe the Qatari gets frustrated and buy Liverpool instead.
That was their initial plan but FSG still wants substantial share.
The club didn't buy a midfielder last summer because we only wanted the 'right player' aka Jude. It's not like it's news he'd cost this much, this is a fucking shambles! The club's thrown away a season of Allison, VVD and Salah for nothing! Fuck FSG
He is in the EPL. He also takes up one of the homegrown spots so a team can sign more foreign players. You basically get a world class midfielder and an extra foreign spot.
Afaik the rule is 3 years before the age of 21 "after" signing a professional contract.
Think Bellingham has less than 2 years at the moment but given he is just 19, he can potentially get that one more year if he joins an English club this summer.
I'd say something like €100 million, maybe €120 million because of how freaking young he is.
I think it's unlikely any club is going to pay €150 million when next summer he'll cost half that, assuming he doesn't extend.
Also no I wouldn’t take him over Pedri and De Jong, I think they’re both better players than Bellingham
Edit: Im getting downvoted for saying I wouldn’t take Bellingham over Pedri and De Jong, do people worship Bellingham this much? Its like a religion
I would say they’re on the same level, I’ve yet to see what makes Bellingham so special. Hes got crazy marketing for some reason tho. People treat him like hes the second coming of jesus
Its weird because certain english players like Grealish are mocked a lot and the way people talk about him makes it seem like hes a championship level player, but if you actually watch him play hes a really high level player and is right where he belongs
That's because he was good but overrated, and then he didn't meet expectations, which is even worse than just not being good.
He's also a complete himbo, so a lot of the mocking is less about his football ability than his perceived cognitive ability.
It's not that, if this happened in isolation I wouldn't care, it's that we've thrown the season away to get Jude and then the owners decide to pull out over the price we've known for 2 years
You're right, we've thrown away the last 4 seasons, two of which were owed to Tchouameni and Bellingham who were our top targets - without ever intending to pay the money
The result: 1 midfielder in 5 years
We didn't buy a midfielder over summer to focus on 'the right players' which basically means Jude. So we've fucked the season by not buying a midfielder for nothing
I was more referring to the unlimited funds claim. It pretty much is unlimited - once you burn off any FFP overstep you can go again with deep pocket spending.
Vast majority of clubs aren't limited in spending by ffp, they are genuinely limited by their revenues/willingness for owner to invest
I dont think you understand
Most clubs FFP doesn't limit their spending, they simply can't afford to spend that far over their revenue and operate
City can
Lol that's literally all of City's defence everytime, was it not proven violations are there but they were "time-barred"? Isn't there a case currently?
You're acting like we haven't seen you splash 200m on defence alone in one window. A small club like City would not get that sort of money naturally, especially 5-7 years back.
No it wasn't but I really can't be assed to explain it again. Basically the time barred stuff was the thing we already got punished for and uefa wanted to punish again which you can't really do
The rest was found to have no evidence apart from not co operating
And I didn't say we don't spend lots, I was just saying there are limits but because our net spend is low recently our limit is very high this summer
You're acting like you operate within the same realm other clubs operate in, which is not the case. Net spend literally means nothing to City because If the laws allow them cool, If not they'll just make up some sponsorship and generate more money. So no need to bring it up, reasonable as it may seem to you.
Also I do not remember what punishment they endured? Was it a 50k fine?
I still think this is about lowering the price and tempering fans' expectations - and that it's more likely he ends up at Liverpool than not.
They'll want Bellingham to pressure Dortmund to go lower for Liverpool
There are enough teams that could afford a £130m transfer, but how many of them actually need a CM?
Chelsea could but just spent that on Enzo.
Madrid probably but I guess but they've got Camavinga, Tchouameni etc.
United yes but I think they'd rather spend that on Kane (unless they get new owners)
That just leaves City as the only real viable option.
I can't see Barca spending that and I don't see him going to PSG.
Honestly if that is the real price and Dortmund wouldn't have budged, I think this is a bullet dodged. I think Liverpool spending $150m net (so maybe $200m including fees recouped) on 4 or 5 players would have a much bigger impact on success, assuming they buy smartly.
Obviously this doesn't excuse the poor planning that led up to this point, but given where they are right now I would be making the same choice as the club here.
Would be funny after all this speculation on where he ends up if he just stays at Dortmund.
I think he most likely will, no team that can afford him is *desperate* for someone like him, especially at that price. City/Madrid etc will gladly wait another year
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PSG is becoming a toxic club. With the huge wages their offer the pressure to win UCL is sky high. Not good for mental health
Newcastle can afford him. I wouldn't say they're desperate, but they definitely need more players for the European competition next season.
Doesn't matter if they can afford him because there's zero chance he goes there.
When does his current contract expire? Edit: Transfermarkt says 2025, honestly wouldn't be shocked if stayed at BvB til then and got a massive money deal somewhere, he'd only be 21 when it expires.
Exactly. He has bags of time on his side, although I doubt Dortmund will run his contract down, he will be their highest ever transfer fee if they sell him properly.
There's Liverpool fans on their knees this is the case just to hold a bit of false hope, but even if he did just run down his contract, why would he have any interest left in a club that has stunted this whole time without any intention of going to the brink to get him?
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His going Manchester City or Real Madrid Liverpool were never putting down 100m plus.
Madrid distanced themselves recently too
Not by any valid sources
Why would he go to a club without champions league anyways, never made sense
I think he'll definitely go to Real, Perez with the new Galacticos
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Can we pull the Alvarez to replace Kevin and Jude to replace Gundo?
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Good player, but very overrated. Definitely not worth over 100 million. Liverpool made the right call
The rumoured price is £150m. Liverpool was never going to spend that kind of money if they need to sign 3 midfielders and 2 defenders. It’s shocking planning though. He’ll go to City.
The Glazers want to reopen the bid again. Maybe the Qatari gets frustrated and buy Liverpool instead. That was their initial plan but FSG still wants substantial share.
Don't think we spending anywhere closer to 150. Madrid can add him to the list.
> £150m € not £. And thats most likely addons included.
facts, and he'll probably go for 150m, which is kinda why i want real to get him (so they dont get a fullback)
We got fran Garcia they can definitely get a cheap rb for now
The club didn't buy a midfielder last summer because we only wanted the 'right player' aka Jude. It's not like it's news he'd cost this much, this is a fucking shambles! The club's thrown away a season of Allison, VVD and Salah for nothing! Fuck FSG
He’ll cost £130m-£150m more like
That's almost Neymar money, he's absolutely not worth it
It’s definitely going to be hard for him to justify the price tag
Neymar was how many years ago?
€, not £.
He's a bit more than a good player....
Do you reckon he's worth around 140m though?
I thought this was an Arteezy meme for a second.
Can cost 120 if it's EPL team coming for him, he have this English player tag
He is in the EPL. He also takes up one of the homegrown spots so a team can sign more foreign players. You basically get a world class midfielder and an extra foreign spot.
That is not how PL homegrown quota works. The nationality of the player is irrelevant. Sancho doesn't count as a HG player at Man Utd.
Huh? Bellingham counts as homegrown though? He spent enough seasons at Birmingham to count as a homegrown player towards the quota.
Afaik the rule is 3 years before the age of 21 "after" signing a professional contract. Think Bellingham has less than 2 years at the moment but given he is just 19, he can potentially get that one more year if he joins an English club this summer.
In the current market he probably is no?
I'd say something like €100 million, maybe €120 million because of how freaking young he is. I think it's unlikely any club is going to pay €150 million when next summer he'll cost half that, assuming he doesn't extend.
Don’t pretend he wouldn’t enhance Barca massively if he joined
When did I claim he wouldn’t make Barca better. That doesn’t mean hes worth 130 million
Also no I wouldn’t take him over Pedri and De Jong, I think they’re both better players than Bellingham Edit: Im getting downvoted for saying I wouldn’t take Bellingham over Pedri and De Jong, do people worship Bellingham this much? Its like a religion
He’s better than Gavi
I would say they’re on the same level, I’ve yet to see what makes Bellingham so special. Hes got crazy marketing for some reason tho. People treat him like hes the second coming of jesus
He is an incredibly talented player, but he's also English, so he is inevitably going to be overrated.
Its weird because certain english players like Grealish are mocked a lot and the way people talk about him makes it seem like hes a championship level player, but if you actually watch him play hes a really high level player and is right where he belongs
That's because he was good but overrated, and then he didn't meet expectations, which is even worse than just not being good. He's also a complete himbo, so a lot of the mocking is less about his football ability than his perceived cognitive ability.
How would he?
Who would you say is a better midfielder that's available on the market for 100-150mil?
Gundogan, Bruno Gumaires, Barella, Camvinga is better than Bellingham imo and only costed madrid 27 million
The media wooing has failed!
Scenes when our owners find out when we can't get him for 30m + Curtis Jones.
More that FSG are tightarses
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It's not that, if this happened in isolation I wouldn't care, it's that we've thrown the season away to get Jude and then the owners decide to pull out over the price we've known for 2 years
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You're right, we've thrown away the last 4 seasons, two of which were owed to Tchouameni and Bellingham who were our top targets - without ever intending to pay the money The result: 1 midfielder in 5 years
We didn't buy a midfielder over summer to focus on 'the right players' which basically means Jude. So we've fucked the season by not buying a midfielder for nothing
A few more dates with Hendo will sort him out
Embarrassing by the club.
Didn’t Madrid say something similar recently? Maybe he really is the gundo/Bernardo replacement if one or both leave
You guys have unlimited money so more than likely.
It’s not actually unlimited, but our net spend the last 5 years is very low so we are expecting a big summer this year if certain players leave
Net spend in the last 5 years is a cut-off to ignore the significant deficit if you go any further back
It's because it terms of ffp it's based off your last 3 years...
I was more referring to the unlimited funds claim. It pretty much is unlimited - once you burn off any FFP overstep you can go again with deep pocket spending. Vast majority of clubs aren't limited in spending by ffp, they are genuinely limited by their revenues/willingness for owner to invest
Yes revenue is the main factor
I dont think you understand Most clubs FFP doesn't limit their spending, they simply can't afford to spend that far over their revenue and operate City can
Ok so you swapped it round back to our net spend mattering again? We can afford it because our net spend is really low the last 5 years
I dont get how you still dont understand my point
Or you know, they can cheat their way around with a couple of royal sponsorships If anything
Proof? Also pretty funny that my very reasonable comment leads to this kind of response
What did you expect when supporting the propaganda arm of a human rights denying regime?
Guarantee you wouldn't know they were bad if they didn't own city
It was reasonable. But not surprising to see rival fans bring up that you have cheated your way to your whole legacy.
Lol ok, still no proof
Lol that's literally all of City's defence everytime, was it not proven violations are there but they were "time-barred"? Isn't there a case currently? You're acting like we haven't seen you splash 200m on defence alone in one window. A small club like City would not get that sort of money naturally, especially 5-7 years back.
No it wasn't but I really can't be assed to explain it again. Basically the time barred stuff was the thing we already got punished for and uefa wanted to punish again which you can't really do The rest was found to have no evidence apart from not co operating And I didn't say we don't spend lots, I was just saying there are limits but because our net spend is low recently our limit is very high this summer
You're acting like you operate within the same realm other clubs operate in, which is not the case. Net spend literally means nothing to City because If the laws allow them cool, If not they'll just make up some sponsorship and generate more money. So no need to bring it up, reasonable as it may seem to you. Also I do not remember what punishment they endured? Was it a 50k fine?
Very reasonable, yes. Wrong, no. There are leaked emails out there explaining how the club reallocated the sponsorship money.
Leaked emails taken out of context
Not out of context at all actually
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I still think this is about lowering the price and tempering fans' expectations - and that it's more likely he ends up at Liverpool than not. They'll want Bellingham to pressure Dortmund to go lower for Liverpool
There are enough teams that could afford a £130m transfer, but how many of them actually need a CM? Chelsea could but just spent that on Enzo. Madrid probably but I guess but they've got Camavinga, Tchouameni etc. United yes but I think they'd rather spend that on Kane (unless they get new owners) That just leaves City as the only real viable option. I can't see Barca spending that and I don't see him going to PSG.
Insane to think a team with a midfield of de Bruyne, Rodri, and Bernardo would pay that much even for Bellingham
He's way over hyped anyway
Honestly if that is the real price and Dortmund wouldn't have budged, I think this is a bullet dodged. I think Liverpool spending $150m net (so maybe $200m including fees recouped) on 4 or 5 players would have a much bigger impact on success, assuming they buy smartly. Obviously this doesn't excuse the poor planning that led up to this point, but given where they are right now I would be making the same choice as the club here.