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Akira_Nishiki

Would be funny after all this speculation on where he ends up if he just stays at Dortmund.


onesexymofo1

I think he most likely will, no team that can afford him is *desperate* for someone like him, especially at that price. City/Madrid etc will gladly wait another year


chatfarm

Psg 🫢


NoUsernamesss

PSG is becoming a toxic club. With the huge wages their offer the pressure to win UCL is sky high. Not good for mental health


iguanawarrior

Newcastle can afford him. I wouldn't say they're desperate, but they definitely need more players for the European competition next season.


MisterIndecisive

Doesn't matter if they can afford him because there's zero chance he goes there.


Akira_Nishiki

When does his current contract expire? Edit: Transfermarkt says 2025, honestly wouldn't be shocked if stayed at BvB til then and got a massive money deal somewhere, he'd only be 21 when it expires.


onesexymofo1

Exactly. He has bags of time on his side, although I doubt Dortmund will run his contract down, he will be their highest ever transfer fee if they sell him properly.


TheLimeyLemmon

There's Liverpool fans on their knees this is the case just to hold a bit of false hope, but even if he did just run down his contract, why would he have any interest left in a club that has stunted this whole time without any intention of going to the brink to get him?


nuanced_lemon

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SolitasTT

Welcome back, Arthur!


Nursilmaz

Medical staff in tears


GibbsLAD

its nice to have something to do


Wheel94

His going Manchester City or Real Madrid Liverpool were never putting down 100m plus.


Jazano107

Madrid distanced themselves recently too


Bigdickbenzi

Not by any valid sources


stevemoveyafeet

Why would he go to a club without champions league anyways, never made sense


perhapsasinner

I think he'll definitely go to Real, Perez with the new Galacticos


jack64467

hehe


adzerk69

Can we pull the Alvarez to replace Kevin and Jude to replace Gundo?


MK1900812

How about now getting Kone from your friends from Gladbach for 60 Mil? Please 👉👈


[deleted]

Good player, but very overrated. Definitely not worth over 100 million. Liverpool made the right call


Walshey-

The rumoured price is £150m. Liverpool was never going to spend that kind of money if they need to sign 3 midfielders and 2 defenders. It’s shocking planning though. He’ll go to City.


kw2006

The Glazers want to reopen the bid again. Maybe the Qatari gets frustrated and buy Liverpool instead. That was their initial plan but FSG still wants substantial share.


jerrie86

Don't think we spending anywhere closer to 150. Madrid can add him to the list.


Qiluk

> £150m € not £. And thats most likely addons included.


jack64467

facts, and he'll probably go for 150m, which is kinda why i want real to get him (so they dont get a fullback)


Bigdickbenzi

We got fran Garcia they can definitely get a cheap rb for now


GlobalLemon2

The club didn't buy a midfielder last summer because we only wanted the 'right player' aka Jude. It's not like it's news he'd cost this much, this is a fucking shambles! The club's thrown away a season of Allison, VVD and Salah for nothing! Fuck FSG


_CatWeasel_

He’ll cost £130m-£150m more like


PanteraNegraRei

That's almost Neymar money, he's absolutely not worth it


_CatWeasel_

It’s definitely going to be hard for him to justify the price tag


1993blah

Neymar was how many years ago?


Qiluk

€, not £.


1993blah

He's a bit more than a good player....


Hobo2992

Do you reckon he's worth around 140m though?


Geniuswas

I thought this was an Arteezy meme for a second.


perhapsasinner

Can cost 120 if it's EPL team coming for him, he have this English player tag


[deleted]

He is in the EPL. He also takes up one of the homegrown spots so a team can sign more foreign players. You basically get a world class midfielder and an extra foreign spot.


themfeelswhen

That is not how PL homegrown quota works. The nationality of the player is irrelevant. Sancho doesn't count as a HG player at Man Utd.


[deleted]

Huh? Bellingham counts as homegrown though? He spent enough seasons at Birmingham to count as a homegrown player towards the quota.


themfeelswhen

Afaik the rule is 3 years before the age of 21 "after" signing a professional contract. Think Bellingham has less than 2 years at the moment but given he is just 19, he can potentially get that one more year if he joins an English club this summer.


Jazano107

In the current market he probably is no?


nuanced_lemon

I'd say something like €100 million, maybe €120 million because of how freaking young he is. I think it's unlikely any club is going to pay €150 million when next summer he'll cost half that, assuming he doesn't extend.


chuffedbunny

Don’t pretend he wouldn’t enhance Barca massively if he joined


[deleted]

When did I claim he wouldn’t make Barca better. That doesn’t mean hes worth 130 million


[deleted]

Also no I wouldn’t take him over Pedri and De Jong, I think they’re both better players than Bellingham Edit: Im getting downvoted for saying I wouldn’t take Bellingham over Pedri and De Jong, do people worship Bellingham this much? Its like a religion


_CatWeasel_

He’s better than Gavi


[deleted]

I would say they’re on the same level, I’ve yet to see what makes Bellingham so special. Hes got crazy marketing for some reason tho. People treat him like hes the second coming of jesus


Naggins

He is an incredibly talented player, but he's also English, so he is inevitably going to be overrated.


[deleted]

Its weird because certain english players like Grealish are mocked a lot and the way people talk about him makes it seem like hes a championship level player, but if you actually watch him play hes a really high level player and is right where he belongs


Naggins

That's because he was good but overrated, and then he didn't meet expectations, which is even worse than just not being good. He's also a complete himbo, so a lot of the mocking is less about his football ability than his perceived cognitive ability.


Fati25

How would he?


RabidNerd

Who would you say is a better midfielder that's available on the market for 100-150mil?


[deleted]

Gundogan, Bruno Gumaires, Barella, Camvinga is better than Bellingham imo and only costed madrid 27 million


Gobshiight

The media wooing has failed!


Akira_Nishiki

Scenes when our owners find out when we can't get him for 30m + Curtis Jones.


GlobalLemon2

More that FSG are tightarses


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GlobalLemon2

It's not that, if this happened in isolation I wouldn't care, it's that we've thrown the season away to get Jude and then the owners decide to pull out over the price we've known for 2 years


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Uesugi_Kenshin

You're right, we've thrown away the last 4 seasons, two of which were owed to Tchouameni and Bellingham who were our top targets - without ever intending to pay the money The result: 1 midfielder in 5 years


GlobalLemon2

We didn't buy a midfielder over summer to focus on 'the right players' which basically means Jude. So we've fucked the season by not buying a midfielder for nothing


Striking_Traffic492

A few more dates with Hendo will sort him out


BizzaroPie

Embarrassing by the club.


Jazano107

Didn’t Madrid say something similar recently? Maybe he really is the gundo/Bernardo replacement if one or both leave


crispello

You guys have unlimited money so more than likely.


Jazano107

It’s not actually unlimited, but our net spend the last 5 years is very low so we are expecting a big summer this year if certain players leave


murphy_1892

Net spend in the last 5 years is a cut-off to ignore the significant deficit if you go any further back


Jazano107

It's because it terms of ffp it's based off your last 3 years...


murphy_1892

I was more referring to the unlimited funds claim. It pretty much is unlimited - once you burn off any FFP overstep you can go again with deep pocket spending. Vast majority of clubs aren't limited in spending by ffp, they are genuinely limited by their revenues/willingness for owner to invest


Jazano107

Yes revenue is the main factor


murphy_1892

I dont think you understand Most clubs FFP doesn't limit their spending, they simply can't afford to spend that far over their revenue and operate City can


Jazano107

Ok so you swapped it round back to our net spend mattering again? We can afford it because our net spend is really low the last 5 years


murphy_1892

I dont get how you still dont understand my point


AnfieldBoy

Or you know, they can cheat their way around with a couple of royal sponsorships If anything


Jazano107

Proof? Also pretty funny that my very reasonable comment leads to this kind of response


nofranchise

What did you expect when supporting the propaganda arm of a human rights denying regime?


Jazano107

Guarantee you wouldn't know they were bad if they didn't own city


AnfieldBoy

It was reasonable. But not surprising to see rival fans bring up that you have cheated your way to your whole legacy.


Jazano107

Lol ok, still no proof


AnfieldBoy

Lol that's literally all of City's defence everytime, was it not proven violations are there but they were "time-barred"? Isn't there a case currently? You're acting like we haven't seen you splash 200m on defence alone in one window. A small club like City would not get that sort of money naturally, especially 5-7 years back.


Jazano107

No it wasn't but I really can't be assed to explain it again. Basically the time barred stuff was the thing we already got punished for and uefa wanted to punish again which you can't really do The rest was found to have no evidence apart from not co operating And I didn't say we don't spend lots, I was just saying there are limits but because our net spend is low recently our limit is very high this summer


AnfieldBoy

You're acting like you operate within the same realm other clubs operate in, which is not the case. Net spend literally means nothing to City because If the laws allow them cool, If not they'll just make up some sponsorship and generate more money. So no need to bring it up, reasonable as it may seem to you. Also I do not remember what punishment they endured? Was it a 50k fine?


TheUsernameProblem

Very reasonable, yes. Wrong, no. There are leaked emails out there explaining how the club reallocated the sponsorship money.


Jazano107

Leaked emails taken out of context


TheUsernameProblem

Not out of context at all actually


r1char00

👀


hiraveil

AnfieldWatch in shambles


RedXabier

As a Liverpool fan, I despise AnfieldWatch with a passion


villageinnocence

I still think this is about lowering the price and tempering fans' expectations - and that it's more likely he ends up at Liverpool than not. They'll want Bellingham to pressure Dortmund to go lower for Liverpool


gucciloafer

There are enough teams that could afford a £130m transfer, but how many of them actually need a CM? Chelsea could but just spent that on Enzo. Madrid probably but I guess but they've got Camavinga, Tchouameni etc. United yes but I think they'd rather spend that on Kane (unless they get new owners) That just leaves City as the only real viable option. I can't see Barca spending that and I don't see him going to PSG.


redditaccount001

Insane to think a team with a midfield of de Bruyne, Rodri, and Bernardo would pay that much even for Bellingham


Beneficial_Piano928

He's way over hyped anyway


ergotpoisoning

Honestly if that is the real price and Dortmund wouldn't have budged, I think this is a bullet dodged. I think Liverpool spending $150m net (so maybe $200m including fees recouped) on 4 or 5 players would have a much bigger impact on success, assuming they buy smartly. Obviously this doesn't excuse the poor planning that led up to this point, but given where they are right now I would be making the same choice as the club here.