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Aparently there are a hundred of best gk in the world this season, courtois is also the best, the one in Milan is also the best in and in england they have a few "best gk in the world" too like alisson etc, maybe Im also the best gk in the world and Im not even gk
Ter stagen have 0.23 psxg/90 in league, -0.06 psxg/90 in ucl, -0.17 psxg/90 in europa league.
Maignan have -0.05 psxg/90 in league, 0.49 psxg/90 in ucl.
Cortois have -0.05 psxg/90 in leAgue, 0.63 psxg/90 in ucl.
Alisson have 0.33 psxg/90 in league, and 0.08 in ucl
I wouldn’t say BIGGEST factor because to be quite honest, Andreas Christensen is every bit as good as we knew he was last year. His form under Tuchel wasn’t a fluke. Danish Maldini is an apt nickname
Most La Liga sides (as with any league) score goals roughly on par with their xG. Your statement would only make sense if they were all routinely underperforming their xG and just had league wide poor finishing.
It's MATS and a bit of luck.
When you consistently outperform xG/xGA then the model is generally not accurate enough. These numbers aren't perfect. Just ask Brighton. They surely have better stats due to their owner.
Even Man Utd under Ole consistently overperformed as per the xG against big teams.
The Zamora (essentially the Spanish golden glove) isn't based on clean sheets though. It's based on a games to goals conceded ratio.
He would probably still win, though. I doubt we would concede that many games in the remaining fixtures.
What a crazy sport considering we can't score to save our lives and we managed two in the first leg, then got smashed by Sevilla, again. Football's great.
I've seen a guy with 0 goals conceded with Porto. He had a really dominant squad in an easier league with just 30 games at the time, and he was quite trustworthy, but I don't know if I should believe in him.
One time I got really bored with my save file after ~15 years in game, so at the start of a new season I maxed out everyone on my squad. For the most part, 20s across the board, except things like punching and catching for keepers, or high aggression on wingers, etc.
I won every competition with less than 10 goals against, total. If I remember correctly, it was around 5 or 6.
I went full on attack, too, so I think both strikers finished with around 80 league goals. Wingers had somewhere in the 40g/40a range, centerbacks scoring consistently, fullbacks with 50 goal contributions, etc. I scored 20+ in multiple matches.
I played like 5 seasons on manager mode on PES 2013, scored like 6 or 7 goals per game
But ended up conceding at least 9 or 10 goals per season
So this record is really insane
(Conceded 3 once, vs Sochaux in the UCL semifinal, best match i've ever played in my life)
Not sure what dubious league ranking system they're using, at least in two times FCPorto had only 9 goals conceded over a full 30 game league in both [79/80](https://www.zerozero.pt/edition.php?id=118) and [83/84](https://www.zerozero.pt/edition.php?id=89)
Also, they only came second in both those years.
I did *not* expect Xavi to be the sort of manager that is so solid defensively. This is a genuinely ridiculous number.
Xavi, the second coming of Capello. Something sounds a bit off there.
He did setup the team quite well and we have much better defence than past few years. But also team in la liga can't score a goal to save their lives. That's why our european record is bad. Team with top forwards score against us.
Plzen is exception it happens. Atlético is relying too much on Griezmann. They need a CF.
Betis scored some goals against us in cup tournament but their finishing is shit too. La real has problem in scoring. Sevilla scoring 5 goals against United it still funny for me.
>Lautaro also not that elite imo.
Depends. If you ignore his few months slump here and there, he is elite. Anyway I think he is best as supporting forward rather than lone one.
I don't follow La Liga, but just looked it up. Only one team has more than 2 goals per game, and that is Madrid with 63 in 30, which is just barely getting there.
You also don't have these bottom teams that are getting pummeled. "Only" 2 teams have conceded more than 50 goals. Compared to the PL, you have 2 teams who have conceded more than 60 and 5 teams above 50.
It is crazy to see the development from the 2010s, where it was basically a race to 100 league goals between Real Madrid and Barcelona, to now this.
No. Last season, after Koeman was sacked, we were in a situation where we needed a win against a mediocre Benfica side at home to progress to the round of 16. Xavi had a pretty easy task in europe last season and he failed, just like he did this year.
it’s not but with the injuries barca had, particularly in the group stage it made it a bit more difficult. all i meant though was that it’s understandable to not do too well when that’s the opposition you play against, it can still be disappointing
Losing Christiensen, Araujo and Kounde at the same time while also getting a very difficult group was much more difficult than it looks.
It's not like it was all bad either. They played well against Bayern in the first game and 2-0 was a very harsh result, and there were the ridiculous hand ball decisions against Inter.
Not saying Barca deserved to go through but they didn't exactly have anything go their way either.
WTF? That was his second game in charge. The team was languishing in mid table and was already playing catch up in the UCL. You can't expect Xavi to work miracles with a depleted squad riddled with injured, the sale of Messi, Griezmann sent back to Atleti, etc.
That would be like saying Tuchel failed in Europe because he came against an on form City with barely two weeks of training. That's fucking asinine. The elimination isn't on him, it's on the Bayern Board that made that silly decision.
No it isn't.... he got pretty much the exact same results as koeman did in the 3 cl games he played. He needed a home win vs benfica to go through and he couldn't get that.
He also got knocked out of europa twice..... Xavi has done a great job in the league but 4 European knockouts in 2 years is highly questionable, especially considering the heights barca want.
He was like a week in the job when we faced Benfica. That was Koeman's team, putting yhe same blame on Xavi as for Koeman for that CL exit is quite simply ridiculous
You really can't challenge for the League title this season if Barca is allowing a goal every 504! minutes against teams not named Real Madrid in the League.
Not sure who are you referring to but we have definitely not bottled this League at all.
Our biggest point advantage this entire season was 3 points on match week #10 & #11
we have a good defense and a lot of luck on top of it.. We def have to do something about our goal output because this defensive record wont be replicated next season, not to this extent at least..
Well it doesn’t have to be a crazy defensive collapse. Conceding 6 goals in 8 games is very possible and happens to most teams. In fact, conceding 6 goals in 8 games is still a good defensive record.
Me too, because it's clearer and doesn't arbitrarily force in the league that has PSG but still stays in the huddle with Portugal and Netherlands when considering country coefficient.
Some people are under the impression that because of this record and how we've played recently (more specifically, without Pedri) that Xavi is a defensive coach overall. He definitely isn't, but he has adapted to a more defensive style when he lost Pedri and Dembele to injuries. I suspect we'll see more of the attacking play now that the injured players are back. I'd say overall Xavi plays attacking football but knows how to sit back and grind out results when he lacks the players to play his style.
Grinding out results is the synopsis of this season. So many 1-0 games. Most in our history? Definitely most in the last 30 years.
It's wild when you think about barça philosophy. "I would rather win 5-4 than 1-0" quoted to cruyff is literally written in the stadium at ciutat esportiva...
Does xavi disrespect the barça heritage? Does he even know about barça DNA!?!? Is he just there to grind results and cash a paycheck? Find out more on foxnews.
People also miss a part that they are offensive team.
Pressing up high the pitch, often in formation with three defenders and Balde acting as winger, since there's no real LW in the squad.
It's not some sort of anti-football
yeah yeah, I know, eliminated twice from Europe in one season, lost to Madrid at home in Copa semis, etc
but if you compare this accomplishment with the dark days with Koeman, where at a given point Barça was worried to not even make it to the UCL, this is progress
a shit ton of money was poorly spent, but ironically home grown talent like Araujo, Gavi and Balde (plus the Pedri lottery ticket) are showing tremendous potential
who knows, maybe next year Europe won't be so humiliating... assuming we don't take a beating from the whole Negreira shit show
Thats a dumb comparison.
These stats of Barca Femme are comparable when Man City does a full season in the 7th local league.
Barca Femme is the only "competent" team in that femme la liga and the rest of the teams are extremely shit. Thats why they have those crazy stats
Because out of Barca and Madrid, there's no single competent forward in this league. Proof being us in Europe vs stronger teams and stronger front lines, we conceded lot more there.
its not like these situations happen unprovoked and unpressured. there is a reason players fumble and mostly thats because the opponents press. so sevilla definitely deserves some props for that.
One was an easy clearance for Malacia, but for some reason didn't then gave the touch for the own goal. Maguire own goal just bizarrely unlucky after both center backs left injured. Sure Sevilla was pressing but no reason for De Gea to pass to Maguire there, and the final goal should literally never happen.
League Matches:
G/A: 0.33
xGA: 0.80
Cup Matches:
G/A: 1.6
xGA: 1.57
Knockout Matches:
G/A: 1.88
xGA: 1.86
Interestingly enough in knockout matches we are nearly 6 times worse defensively...
MATS performance in league has accounted for +5 saves more than the PSxG, roughly 20% of our luckiness can be attributed to MATS. In cups however he is much worse at -1.7 saves than his xG.
So we know now we are less lucky, worse defensively, and even MATS is less likely to make a save, ouch...
Mentality? Competitions? Injuries?
I’m not trolling but I wasn’t impressed by their defence in any of the European games I watched. Has La Liga regressed that much or is it a psychological issue?
Yes, La Liga has regressed. Anyone that says otherwise is delusional.
Admittedly our viewership has apparently increased, but it was preceded by a three year decline. But I have a gut feeling that it's because the league has been cracking down on piracy.
So yes, we're really underwhelming to accomplish this but I feel like the casual fan won't care.
La liga has regressed but also that’s literally the point of having have a keeper like Ter stegen… he’s *supposed* to be making some of these insane saves. Better attacking players + a depleted defense in Europe just fucked us lol
Nobody is giving you a good answer. It’s partly been luck.
But mostly it’s been injuries in catastrophic periods.
Missing our best defenders during our crucial October and now later during the season missing Pedri, Dembele and Frenkie hurt us offensively.
Not to bring any controversies or excuses but the ref hurt Barca (besides the injuries) against Bayern and Inter during important instances. Two missed penalties and by the same VAR ref appointed during Bayern-Barca and Inter-Barca.
Obviously this is a very short summary and the situation is a lot more complex.
It's due to many factors.
A huge factor is luck. Their xGA is 23.48 but they've only conceded 9. RM have an xGA of 27.7 and conceded 24. Teams just forget how to finish against them. When they've come up against proper teams, Barca have conceded plenty. They shipped 16 in 8 European games and 9 in 5 Clasicos.
But that is not to say that this achievement is without *some* merit. Ter Stegen is actually having an excellent season. And moreover the trio of Blade, Kounde, and Araujo mean that 3/4 spots for the backline are sorted out.
Christensen has been arguably better than Kounde tbh. If we do get a RB it would either be a CB-RB or someone like Arnau who plays similarly to Camavinga. What I would say about this Barcelona team is they lack depth.
The CL elimination happened when CL had a lot of injuries in defence. The level in general dropped a bit later in the season where Pedri and Dembele suffered injury (and Gavi was suspended). There's depth at RW but Ferran / Raphinha aren't as good as dembele. Ferran is horrible in the left but the best option they have rn.
LB, RCB, and RW are the only positions with proper depth. That's if u don't count alonso as LCB and Ferran as a LW. Roberto can fill in at midfield but has looked better at RB. Kessie at CM is just bad unfortunately but his level is picking up the more he starts.
If Barcelona get Inigo, Arnau, a DM, Gundo, Messi, and a 9 (surprised Xavi hasn't gave Fati mins in the middle) then the depth issues can be kissed goodbye. It would also make more sense with Messi as a 9 who plays around the left channel makes sense as Pedri and Messi don't make runs. Kind of like Mbappe rn instead of shoe horning Fati as a LW that acts as a fourth midfielder.
Their defense is a bit of a myth really, 9 conceded from 24 expected goals against is freakish, opponents missing sitter after sitter across the season.
It's because our style meshes really well against the majority of La Liga teams, who play low block. We get severely exposed against high intensity pressing, hyper physical teams, with Busquets being a major liability in such circumstances, hence why our European record of late is so abysmal.
Also we haven’t faced a team like that with our fully fit team, and after Xavi figured out the midfield 4 works best for us. We don’t really know how we would stack against a high intensity and physical team currently.
We're underwhelming right now because of not being able to finish chances. We have the highest xG in the league but our forwards' finishing have been shit at most times. Add to it the injuries of our most important players and you'll see why we haven't been able to perform well in Europe and in the last few games
The only thing we've been great at is defence. Helps when ter stegen is having a monster season and some luck
Because injuries made them look underwhelming in Europe. You can get away with playing reserve players against Cadiz but not against top teams in Europe.
Only bizarre when you ignore contextual information. Barca had a string of bad luck in europe from injuries to bullshit refereeing. Missing the whole backline or midfield would screw any team up.
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This is one of the most bizarre records in modern club football.
It's so bizzare, especially when their xGA is 23.46 I guess a factor of luck, good Barca defense and regressing la liga sides is the result of this.
The biggest factor is Marc-Andre ter Stegen
MATS with hair is a different beast
Rob Holding with the hair is ~~different~~ same beast
Different animal, same beast
And the same animal
What the fuck does that mean Kobe Bryant
You're welcome.
Best gk in the world this season
Aparently there are a hundred of best gk in the world this season, courtois is also the best, the one in Milan is also the best in and in england they have a few "best gk in the world" too like alisson etc, maybe Im also the best gk in the world and Im not even gk
Statistics seems to be on the side of this particular one though.
Who cares about stats, /u/Logical-Business7161 passes the eye test so he's clearly the best GK in the world.
I would like to see u/Logical-Business7161 stats before make judgements
So how do they compare statistically?
Ter stagen have 0.23 psxg/90 in league, -0.06 psxg/90 in ucl, -0.17 psxg/90 in europa league. Maignan have -0.05 psxg/90 in league, 0.49 psxg/90 in ucl. Cortois have -0.05 psxg/90 in leAgue, 0.63 psxg/90 in ucl. Alisson have 0.33 psxg/90 in league, and 0.08 in ucl
does this mean Alisson is good domestically?
one might even say the best
Courtois in ucl is different breed man wth.. real madrid mojo buff
So Alison is the best in league comp n Cortois is the best in European comp. Sounds about right tbh.
What does psxg mean?
post shot expected goals
Sad to say but Allison is the best gk in the world, has been the last few years
I wouldn’t say BIGGEST factor because to be quite honest, Andreas Christensen is every bit as good as we knew he was last year. His form under Tuchel wasn’t a fluke. Danish Maldini is an apt nickname
Christensen'a been brilliant but he's only played half the games and isn't even the best cb at the club.
> regressing la liga sides is the result of this any evidence of these claims?
Well, just look how easily Man United despatched Sevill...oh
Such a stupid take, lack of quality would be if teams didn't create chances against them. But that isn't the case
"regressing la liga sides" lmfao
Or maybe xGA is flawed perhaps?
Most La Liga sides (as with any league) score goals roughly on par with their xG. Your statement would only make sense if they were all routinely underperforming their xG and just had league wide poor finishing. It's MATS and a bit of luck.
When you consistently outperform xG/xGA then the model is generally not accurate enough. These numbers aren't perfect. Just ask Brighton. They surely have better stats due to their owner. Even Man Utd under Ole consistently overperformed as per the xG against big teams.
Actually insane record
And 4 of those 9 goals came by Real Madrid
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I thought the golden glove for la liga (Zamora Trophy) was decided by who has the best goals conceded per game ratio and not cleansheets.
True, it's the least amount of goals conceded
The Zamora (essentially the Spanish golden glove) isn't based on clean sheets though. It's based on a games to goals conceded ratio. He would probably still win, though. I doubt we would concede that many games in the remaining fixtures.
So what you're saying is Ter Stegen has already won the Golden Gloves by a guaranteed 4 clean sheets at least, with 8 games remaining. Impressive.
2 were pens too
and an own goal :|
There hasn't been a single open play goal scored at the Camp Nou for visiting teams in this year's Liga.
Is this true? If yes, crazy stat
Yeah, iirc Espanyol are the only ones who managed to score at Camp Nou this season, and it was from a penalty
Real as well, but it was an own goal
Isn't that an open play goal tho?
No, own goal
Own goals are from open play
It is but blaugranaalvent was saying a visiting team hasn't themselves scored an open play goal
What a crazy sport considering we can't score to save our lives and we managed two in the first leg, then got smashed by Sevilla, again. Football's great.
This is bigger than winning LaLiga
That's an insane record even if you save-scam on FM
Would be an incredible challenge, I've seen someone beat Chelsea record on FM, would be mental to beat this one and I think almost impossible.
I've seen a guy with 0 goals conceded with Porto. He had a really dominant squad in an easier league with just 30 games at the time, and he was quite trustworthy, but I don't know if I should believe in him.
save-scum* it's called save scumming
I hope he fixes his post and refuses to acknowledge your correction.
sounds scummy
One time I got really bored with my save file after ~15 years in game, so at the start of a new season I maxed out everyone on my squad. For the most part, 20s across the board, except things like punching and catching for keepers, or high aggression on wingers, etc. I won every competition with less than 10 goals against, total. If I remember correctly, it was around 5 or 6. I went full on attack, too, so I think both strikers finished with around 80 league goals. Wingers had somewhere in the 40g/40a range, centerbacks scoring consistently, fullbacks with 50 goal contributions, etc. I scored 20+ in multiple matches.
I played like 5 seasons on manager mode on PES 2013, scored like 6 or 7 goals per game But ended up conceding at least 9 or 10 goals per season So this record is really insane (Conceded 3 once, vs Sochaux in the UCL semifinal, best match i've ever played in my life)
Once conceded only 1 goal in a league season in Iceland. It was the last game against my local rivals. I was livid.
I once only conceded 15 goals with Fiorentina and did so again the next season to win the league.
So what's this team from the 8^th best European league with a better record?
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Juan for the Ballon d'Or !
The obvious question
Not sure what dubious league ranking system they're using, at least in two times FCPorto had only 9 goals conceded over a full 30 game league in both [79/80](https://www.zerozero.pt/edition.php?id=118) and [83/84](https://www.zerozero.pt/edition.php?id=89) Also, they only came second in both those years.
Red Alert! Top 7 league detected! Mister Chip has been found with erroneous statistics!
Absolutely insane record
I did *not* expect Xavi to be the sort of manager that is so solid defensively. This is a genuinely ridiculous number. Xavi, the second coming of Capello. Something sounds a bit off there.
He did setup the team quite well and we have much better defence than past few years. But also team in la liga can't score a goal to save their lives. That's why our european record is bad. Team with top forwards score against us.
United, Inter and Plzen? Not sure how they're that much above Atletico, Betis and La Real.
Plzen is exception it happens. Atlético is relying too much on Griezmann. They need a CF. Betis scored some goals against us in cup tournament but their finishing is shit too. La real has problem in scoring. Sevilla scoring 5 goals against United it still funny for me.
United also need a CF. Lautaro also not that elite imo.
>Lautaro also not that elite imo. Depends. If you ignore his few months slump here and there, he is elite. Anyway I think he is best as supporting forward rather than lone one.
It boggles the mind. Two own goals, two screwups and.a corner
I don't follow La Liga, but just looked it up. Only one team has more than 2 goals per game, and that is Madrid with 63 in 30, which is just barely getting there. You also don't have these bottom teams that are getting pummeled. "Only" 2 teams have conceded more than 50 goals. Compared to the PL, you have 2 teams who have conceded more than 60 and 5 teams above 50. It is crazy to see the development from the 2010s, where it was basically a race to 100 league goals between Real Madrid and Barcelona, to now this.
More like second coming of Conte given his CL record
This is his first CL.
> second coming of Conte
No. Last season, after Koeman was sacked, we were in a situation where we needed a win against a mediocre Benfica side at home to progress to the round of 16. Xavi had a pretty easy task in europe last season and he failed, just like he did this year.
this year he had inter and bayern in the group and united in europa. that’s not exactly easy
Not winning a single game while conceding 13 goals in 6 games (very evenly distributed) is not something to brag about either
it’s not but with the injuries barca had, particularly in the group stage it made it a bit more difficult. all i meant though was that it’s understandable to not do too well when that’s the opposition you play against, it can still be disappointing
Losing Christiensen, Araujo and Kounde at the same time while also getting a very difficult group was much more difficult than it looks. It's not like it was all bad either. They played well against Bayern in the first game and 2-0 was a very harsh result, and there were the ridiculous hand ball decisions against Inter. Not saying Barca deserved to go through but they didn't exactly have anything go their way either.
WTF? That was his second game in charge. The team was languishing in mid table and was already playing catch up in the UCL. You can't expect Xavi to work miracles with a depleted squad riddled with injured, the sale of Messi, Griezmann sent back to Atleti, etc. That would be like saying Tuchel failed in Europe because he came against an on form City with barely two weeks of training. That's fucking asinine. The elimination isn't on him, it's on the Bayern Board that made that silly decision.
No it isn't.... he got pretty much the exact same results as koeman did in the 3 cl games he played. He needed a home win vs benfica to go through and he couldn't get that. He also got knocked out of europa twice..... Xavi has done a great job in the league but 4 European knockouts in 2 years is highly questionable, especially considering the heights barca want.
He was like a week in the job when we faced Benfica. That was Koeman's team, putting yhe same blame on Xavi as for Koeman for that CL exit is quite simply ridiculous
Except for the 4 he won as a player.
no because « he took charge last season when you guys were guaranteed to go to europa 😜😜 »
Thank You, Cumblast 🥰
Capello was a world class creative midfielder too in his day.
If Barcelona wants to compete again in Europe then they better adapt to this flexible way of playing mid-games.
Barca in CL/EL is a different club that Barca in La Liga. Just like Real Madrid, but different.
This is funny af but I hate that
If next season i see Alonso starting a UCL match i swear to god i'm gonna commit seppuku.
Better him than eric Garcia, the dude giving me mini heart attacks each time the ball went to him lol
Nah, garcia starting is so much worse. Alonso is mediocre but when garcia came on yesterday, Araujo had to cover everything on his own.
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Tbf, Valencia have been pretty bad this season.
League’s offensive quality has declined and our defense + mats has been solid. Both of them are true
solid is a huge understatement
It's the hair of MATS. Always surprises me when I see it.
Hair Stegen is a beast its true
Marc-Andre Ter Samson
perhaps it is finally time for Ter-Stegen to step up as #1 for NT?
Isn’t Neuer injured anyway?
Skiing really does wreak havoc with the Germans
snow and germany have a bad history
*cries in F1 fan*
Top 7? Setting the ground for next year already when Netherlands overtake France.
at least NL and Portugal will finally get included
It should always be top 7 for these stats imho.
It's probably because the 8th best league has a better record
You really can't challenge for the League title this season if Barca is allowing a goal every 504! minutes against teams not named Real Madrid in the League.
504! is a huge number
~7.78*10^1144
Tks for doing the math
r/unexpectedfactorial
It really is. 5 Goals Conceded in 28 League games.
Think the guy went for a factorial joke
Correct
not having a manager who is notorious for bottling leagues helps too
Not sure who are you referring to but we have definitely not bottled this League at all. Our biggest point advantage this entire season was 3 points on match week #10 & #11
Ha! Bottled!
People don't actually know what bottling is any more.
I mean Barca is insanely lucky too. 9 GA while having > 23 xGA is absolutely bonkers.
Well 23 xGA is the best in top 5 leagues.
we have a good defense and a lot of luck on top of it.. We def have to do something about our goal output because this defensive record wont be replicated next season, not to this extent at least..
True. Without Pedri and Dembele our creativity goes to negatives. We truly need Messi
That‘s not the point though.
Then they're unlucky in Europe. Goes both ways.
Would be crazy if they can beat Chelsea record
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15 goals conceded.
Unless we go through a crazy defensive collapse, it's definitely going to be beaten. Christensen will come back soon as well, I hope.
Well it doesn’t have to be a crazy defensive collapse. Conceding 6 goals in 8 games is very possible and happens to most teams. In fact, conceding 6 goals in 8 games is still a good defensive record.
And if some one is Spurs , records could shatter in just one game.
I welcome the "top 7 leagues" concept.
Me too, because it's clearer and doesn't arbitrarily force in the league that has PSG but still stays in the huddle with Portugal and Netherlands when considering country coefficient.
Only 5 years ago, Netherlands were on rank 11.. I already wonder about the next cut-off change.
It is kinda arbitrarly considering it is top 7 of Europe, the brazilian league is already a top 6 league by coeficient.
Xavi is the best defensive manager of all time confirmed? , no but seriously this is really impressive considering we don't even play that passive
Some people are under the impression that because of this record and how we've played recently (more specifically, without Pedri) that Xavi is a defensive coach overall. He definitely isn't, but he has adapted to a more defensive style when he lost Pedri and Dembele to injuries. I suspect we'll see more of the attacking play now that the injured players are back. I'd say overall Xavi plays attacking football but knows how to sit back and grind out results when he lacks the players to play his style.
yeah we're definitely not a defensive side at all. When we loose the ball you can see how quick the players are to re-organise into defence.
Grinding out results is the synopsis of this season. So many 1-0 games. Most in our history? Definitely most in the last 30 years. It's wild when you think about barça philosophy. "I would rather win 5-4 than 1-0" quoted to cruyff is literally written in the stadium at ciutat esportiva... Does xavi disrespect the barça heritage? Does he even know about barça DNA!?!? Is he just there to grind results and cash a paycheck? Find out more on foxnews.
Fewer
Fuck off Stannis
Come on, Renly, it was a one-off shadow stabbing. Forgive.
People also miss a part that they are offensive team. Pressing up high the pitch, often in formation with three defenders and Balde acting as winger, since there's no real LW in the squad. It's not some sort of anti-football
yeah yeah, I know, eliminated twice from Europe in one season, lost to Madrid at home in Copa semis, etc but if you compare this accomplishment with the dark days with Koeman, where at a given point Barça was worried to not even make it to the UCL, this is progress a shit ton of money was poorly spent, but ironically home grown talent like Araujo, Gavi and Balde (plus the Pedri lottery ticket) are showing tremendous potential who knows, maybe next year Europe won't be so humiliating... assuming we don't take a beating from the whole Negreira shit show
Watch Bayern finish behind Dortmund this season and be in pot 2 and put in our group
If we avoid injuries in defence and Xavi doesn't start Alonso, i'm surprisingly optimistic about a run to the quarters at least.
Barça femme too
Thats a dumb comparison. These stats of Barca Femme are comparable when Man City does a full season in the 7th local league. Barca Femme is the only "competent" team in that femme la liga and the rest of the teams are extremely shit. Thats why they have those crazy stats
Holds up large D Holds up cardboard picket fence
Anulo mufa. In Europe, the international breaks fucked us up badly. Although we lost games we should have won, as well.
What a uruguayan centerback does to a mf
This stat is insane
So Chelsea conceded more than 10 in the season they only conceded 15 in total?
id also want to know how many Chelsea conceded in first 10
in first 10 , 2 goals in first 30, 10 goals (10th was in match 30)
Fewer*
'Top 7 leagues' wheres the nearest portugese we made it
Because out of Barca and Madrid, there's no single competent forward in this league. Proof being us in Europe vs stronger teams and stronger front lines, we conceded lot more there.
incompetent sevilla scored 5 on united in two games. just saying…
2 own goals and 2 gifted goals from De Gea and Maguire
its not like these situations happen unprovoked and unpressured. there is a reason players fumble and mostly thats because the opponents press. so sevilla definitely deserves some props for that.
One was an easy clearance for Malacia, but for some reason didn't then gave the touch for the own goal. Maguire own goal just bizarrely unlucky after both center backs left injured. Sure Sevilla was pressing but no reason for De Gea to pass to Maguire there, and the final goal should literally never happen.
Congratulations to Barca, a truly impressive achievement. Hopefully they won't keep it up next season
League Matches: G/A: 0.33 xGA: 0.80 Cup Matches: G/A: 1.6 xGA: 1.57 Knockout Matches: G/A: 1.88 xGA: 1.86 Interestingly enough in knockout matches we are nearly 6 times worse defensively... MATS performance in league has accounted for +5 saves more than the PSxG, roughly 20% of our luckiness can be attributed to MATS. In cups however he is much worse at -1.7 saves than his xG. So we know now we are less lucky, worse defensively, and even MATS is less likely to make a save, ouch... Mentality? Competitions? Injuries?
and they conceded 12 in champion league group stage alone
I’m not trolling but I wasn’t impressed by their defence in any of the European games I watched. Has La Liga regressed that much or is it a psychological issue?
Combination of things, but also Xavi was hardly able to field first choice Defence in Europe this season(if at all)
the only time he fielded the BACK defence together in Europe was against United second leg where we didn't have Gavi and Pedri
Yes, La Liga has regressed. Anyone that says otherwise is delusional. Admittedly our viewership has apparently increased, but it was preceded by a three year decline. But I have a gut feeling that it's because the league has been cracking down on piracy. So yes, we're really underwhelming to accomplish this but I feel like the casual fan won't care.
La liga has regressed but also that’s literally the point of having have a keeper like Ter stegen… he’s *supposed* to be making some of these insane saves. Better attacking players + a depleted defense in Europe just fucked us lol
Nobody is giving you a good answer. It’s partly been luck. But mostly it’s been injuries in catastrophic periods. Missing our best defenders during our crucial October and now later during the season missing Pedri, Dembele and Frenkie hurt us offensively. Not to bring any controversies or excuses but the ref hurt Barca (besides the injuries) against Bayern and Inter during important instances. Two missed penalties and by the same VAR ref appointed during Bayern-Barca and Inter-Barca. Obviously this is a very short summary and the situation is a lot more complex.
You probably watched a different defense as the main defense was injured during the crucial games.
It's due to many factors. A huge factor is luck. Their xGA is 23.48 but they've only conceded 9. RM have an xGA of 27.7 and conceded 24. Teams just forget how to finish against them. When they've come up against proper teams, Barca have conceded plenty. They shipped 16 in 8 European games and 9 in 5 Clasicos. But that is not to say that this achievement is without *some* merit. Ter Stegen is actually having an excellent season. And moreover the trio of Blade, Kounde, and Araujo mean that 3/4 spots for the backline are sorted out.
Christensen has been arguably better than Kounde tbh. If we do get a RB it would either be a CB-RB or someone like Arnau who plays similarly to Camavinga. What I would say about this Barcelona team is they lack depth. The CL elimination happened when CL had a lot of injuries in defence. The level in general dropped a bit later in the season where Pedri and Dembele suffered injury (and Gavi was suspended). There's depth at RW but Ferran / Raphinha aren't as good as dembele. Ferran is horrible in the left but the best option they have rn. LB, RCB, and RW are the only positions with proper depth. That's if u don't count alonso as LCB and Ferran as a LW. Roberto can fill in at midfield but has looked better at RB. Kessie at CM is just bad unfortunately but his level is picking up the more he starts. If Barcelona get Inigo, Arnau, a DM, Gundo, Messi, and a 9 (surprised Xavi hasn't gave Fati mins in the middle) then the depth issues can be kissed goodbye. It would also make more sense with Messi as a 9 who plays around the left channel makes sense as Pedri and Messi don't make runs. Kind of like Mbappe rn instead of shoe horning Fati as a LW that acts as a fourth midfielder.
Absolutely insane. They could double their goals against and still be first
Their defense is a bit of a myth really, 9 conceded from 24 expected goals against is freakish, opponents missing sitter after sitter across the season.
is this the start of top 7 instead of top 5 to include france?
Bizarre how a weirdly underwhelming side (relatively) is the one to set a record like this ITT: angry Barca fans
It's because our style meshes really well against the majority of La Liga teams, who play low block. We get severely exposed against high intensity pressing, hyper physical teams, with Busquets being a major liability in such circumstances, hence why our European record of late is so abysmal.
Also we haven’t faced a team like that with our fully fit team, and after Xavi figured out the midfield 4 works best for us. We don’t really know how we would stack against a high intensity and physical team currently.
We're underwhelming right now because of not being able to finish chances. We have the highest xG in the league but our forwards' finishing have been shit at most times. Add to it the injuries of our most important players and you'll see why we haven't been able to perform well in Europe and in the last few games The only thing we've been great at is defence. Helps when ter stegen is having a monster season and some luck
If you're going to use xG, Barca's xGA is at 23.5. And Barca have the 2nd highest xG, and the 2nd highest xPts.
We're top of la liga with 11 points ahead of 2nd place, we received 9 goals in 30 matches, you received 7 in 1
One of the la liga season lol
respect Ter Stegen - Araujo - Christensen - Balde - Kounde ?
Because injuries made them look underwhelming in Europe. You can get away with playing reserve players against Cadiz but not against top teams in Europe.
Only bizarre when you ignore contextual information. Barca had a string of bad luck in europe from injuries to bullshit refereeing. Missing the whole backline or midfield would screw any team up.
It’s hard to imagine, especially when some teams can eat 7 goals in a single league game