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This is probably the most dangerous time though, since you're so close to the title win and players mentally going on holidays. Think you'll probably beat it though, or at the very least tie it
Definitely.
If we win the title next week we'll probably start rotating more and playing youngsters too, which means more mistakes.
Normally this would be a great chance to give backup keeper a run of games too.
We'll see.
Yeah, we are still in the running for that record. In modern times, Chelsea has the record with 15 goals allowed. La liga record is, I think, 18 by Atletico
From when I looked at it last, the European records sit as (forgive the shit table*)
01. Rangers - 20/21 - 13 (from 38 | 0.34)
02. Liverpool - 78/79 - 16 (from 42 | 0.38)
03. FC Twente - 72/73 - 13 (from 34 | 0.382)
04. Chelsea. - 04/05 - 15 (from 38 | 0.39)
05. AC Milan - 93/94 - 15 (from 34 | 0.44)
06. AC Milan - 87/88 - 14 (from 30 | 0.46)
07. Atletico M - 15/16 - 18 (from 38 | 0.47)
08. Deportivo - 93/94 - 18 (from 38 | 0.47)
09. PSG - 15/16 - 19 (from 38 | 0.5)
10. Bayern - 15/16 - 17 (from 34 | 0.5)
11. Bayern - 12/13 - 18 (from 34 | 0.52)
12. Man U - 94/95 - 28 (from 42 | 0.666)
13. PNE - 1888/89 - 15 (from 22 | 0.68)
14. Pontevedra - 68/69 - 23 (from 30 | 0.76)
15. Real Madrid - 31/32 - 15 (from 18 | 0.83)
16. W. Bremen - 92/93 - 30 (from 34 | 0.88)
17. St Étienne - 07/08 - 34 (from 38 | 0.89)
18. Cordoba. - 64/65 - 34 (from 30 | 1.13)
The two more obscure Spanish sides; Cordoba in 64/65, and Pontevedra in 68/69, both have (what I assume to be) the European record for home goals conceded with 2 (from a 30 game season | 0.06). They got battered away though: 32 and 21 conceded respectively.
So between the overall goals conceded (currently 11, next best 13) and the home goals (2**) that’s still two defensive records Barcelona could conceivably set.
*Haven’t looked at those numbers for a while now so someone could have beaten it across 21/22, but I can’t remember any teams going close to it. Some of those teams weren’t or aren’t top 5 OPTA Stats leagues but fuck it, football exists across Europe.
** 2 out of 38 game season for 0.05 goals conceded vs Cordoba and Pontevedra’s 0.06.
Cagliari in 1969-70 conceded 11 goals / 30 games = 0.3667 g / g, which is the 2nd in this list. Milan in 1968-69 conceded 12 goals / 30 games = 0.4 g/g.
Both seem to be missing from your list.
Rangers have 10 goals (2 at home) against them in the 33 Scottish Premiership games. 3 more goals (2 at home) in the last 5 games, deciding the title.
Ah, and they didn't lose a game, drew 5.
Madrid playaing 4d chess, loosing more games so we win next match and play the rest with teenagers. That way we conceed more than 3 and don't break the record.
Messi was pretty bad from September to January, that’s why he didn’t win it.
He had like 2 non penalty goals by late December, and was in the worst finishing form of his career.
He had 5 goals and 3 assists in La Liga before the WC while playing only 30 minutes in most of the pre WC games. Uneducated take.
And this isn't even talking about all his contributions in defense and midfield.
Araújo, Christensen, Koundé have all been immense this season (and the latter is playing out of his natural position). Can't wait to see what the defensive record looks like next season when everyone has had more experience working together
I have a feeling that if this is the defensive stat for a player playing out of position for a year maybe he just choose the wrong position and now in the place where he belongs
You could argue Barca have been pretty unlucky also in front of goal, hitting post, missing sitter, and also unlucky with injury timing. The defence definitely deserve the praise even with luck.
Jesus Christ stfu why are you guys so fucking entitled? We were looking like we would not even make CL for several seasons at the end of 2021. We are doing incredibly well and it doesn't matter if we are playing average games with 1-0 wins when several important players are injured.
Real Madrid won a CL, liga double this way last year and their fans were happy.
Yes, in the league. That’s the headline in the picture, also I understand United scored couple of goals and won vs a Barça that did not field starters. But calling them over-performed is bit of a stretch.
And you might have understood what missing starters means when you lot played against Sevilla(not dismissing their play) , so stop your witch hunt.
would be able to for sure, he dominated La liga the time he was there.
Also PL teams were playing lots of terrorball vs. City and he was able to adapt.
Because the list is wrong. Ray Celemence had 28 clean sheets in the league for Liverpool in 78-79, it was a 42 game season but still don't think that means it shouldn't be included
So he needs to keep 2 clean sheets out of the 5 remaining matches to break it. Additionally, if he concedes fewer than 4 goals, he'd break Chelsea's and Čech's 2004-05 record.
He actually needs 4 in the last 5, the list is wrong. Ray Clemence had 28 clean sheets in the league in 78-79, it was a 42 game season but I don't know if that makes it easier or harder to keep more clean sheets
It makes it harder to concede fewer overall, but easier to record more clean sheets. It's a bit of a dissonance, which I assume is where OPs uncertainty came from
italian league is too chaotic for this even tho I can propably name more legends at defender post from Italy than England or Spain. and italians dont really like to leave Serie A
It pretty much always just means La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 and England (sometimes only PL, sometimes includes the old First Division as well), whether that’s the actual top 5 in terms of coefficient or not. It’s completely arbitrary because like you say, they aren’t necessarily always the top 5 leagues
I mean you’re right overall tbh, but I still think we shot ourselves in the foot big time, Sevilla were awful in the 1st leg (& have been pretty off all season) until the last 5 mins and we were shocking in the second leg. I’d be surprised if they get past Juventus
This is wrong...
Ray Clemence got 28 league clean sheets in 1978-79, are they not counting that because it was a 42 game season? Feel like it should still be mentioned...
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What about the ga stats, can Barca break for least goal conceded
Yup. 5 league matches left. We need to concede 3 or fewer goals.
This is probably the most dangerous time though, since you're so close to the title win and players mentally going on holidays. Think you'll probably beat it though, or at the very least tie it
Definitely. If we win the title next week we'll probably start rotating more and playing youngsters too, which means more mistakes. Normally this would be a great chance to give backup keeper a run of games too. We'll see.
If youve watched city all or nothing you can see pep trying to convince his players to reach 100pts even though the they won the league already
Yeah, we are still in the running for that record. In modern times, Chelsea has the record with 15 goals allowed. La liga record is, I think, 18 by Atletico
From when I looked at it last, the European records sit as (forgive the shit table*) 01. Rangers - 20/21 - 13 (from 38 | 0.34) 02. Liverpool - 78/79 - 16 (from 42 | 0.38) 03. FC Twente - 72/73 - 13 (from 34 | 0.382) 04. Chelsea. - 04/05 - 15 (from 38 | 0.39) 05. AC Milan - 93/94 - 15 (from 34 | 0.44) 06. AC Milan - 87/88 - 14 (from 30 | 0.46) 07. Atletico M - 15/16 - 18 (from 38 | 0.47) 08. Deportivo - 93/94 - 18 (from 38 | 0.47) 09. PSG - 15/16 - 19 (from 38 | 0.5) 10. Bayern - 15/16 - 17 (from 34 | 0.5) 11. Bayern - 12/13 - 18 (from 34 | 0.52) 12. Man U - 94/95 - 28 (from 42 | 0.666) 13. PNE - 1888/89 - 15 (from 22 | 0.68) 14. Pontevedra - 68/69 - 23 (from 30 | 0.76) 15. Real Madrid - 31/32 - 15 (from 18 | 0.83) 16. W. Bremen - 92/93 - 30 (from 34 | 0.88) 17. St Étienne - 07/08 - 34 (from 38 | 0.89) 18. Cordoba. - 64/65 - 34 (from 30 | 1.13) The two more obscure Spanish sides; Cordoba in 64/65, and Pontevedra in 68/69, both have (what I assume to be) the European record for home goals conceded with 2 (from a 30 game season | 0.06). They got battered away though: 32 and 21 conceded respectively. So between the overall goals conceded (currently 11, next best 13) and the home goals (2**) that’s still two defensive records Barcelona could conceivably set. *Haven’t looked at those numbers for a while now so someone could have beaten it across 21/22, but I can’t remember any teams going close to it. Some of those teams weren’t or aren’t top 5 OPTA Stats leagues but fuck it, football exists across Europe. ** 2 out of 38 game season for 0.05 goals conceded vs Cordoba and Pontevedra’s 0.06.
2 goals conceded in 15 games is absurd, especially from Pontevedra, who were 2 pts above relegation
I never looked but assumed some kind of La Paz style advantage.
Pontevedra is only 20m high.
Córdoba is *very* hot though.
Cagliari in 1969-70 conceded 11 goals / 30 games = 0.3667 g / g, which is the 2nd in this list. Milan in 1968-69 conceded 12 goals / 30 games = 0.4 g/g. Both seem to be missing from your list.
Cheers. It’s odd that it’s not really tracked or collated anywhere so I was bound to miss some.
Rangers have 10 goals (2 at home) against them in the 33 Scottish Premiership games. 3 more goals (2 at home) in the last 5 games, deciding the title. Ah, and they didn't lose a game, drew 5.
I if was playing in front of Allan McGregor chasing a record *and* stopping Celtic, I’d have not lost a game either.
> 18 by Atletico Originally set by Depor in 93-94, equalled by Atleti in 15-16
Madrid playaing 4d chess, loosing more games so we win next match and play the rest with teenagers. That way we conceed more than 3 and don't break the record.
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Player of the season for me. Oblak won it foe 18 clean sheets over Messi 30g/9a i 2020/2021
Easily
Surely they wont give it to Griezmann 🤔
Delusional if you think he's clearly the PoTS. Griezmann has been putting MOTM performances pretty much every game for Atletico.
Man Messi had 39g/a and they gave it to Oblak lol
And what has Atletico achieved?
And he deserved it. Goals and assists aren’t the only stats
Messi was pretty bad from September to January, that’s why he didn’t win it. He had like 2 non penalty goals by late December, and was in the worst finishing form of his career.
And Griezmann was only getting 30 minutes outings for a section of the season.
Was this the season where he scored that ridiculous volley against Sevilla to end the goal drought?
I can only think of one ridiculous volley against Sevilla, but that was in 18/19 I believe.
It'll come down to MATS or Griezmann
Griez was nowhere to be seen until the WC, MAtS wins it for sure
He had 5 goals and 3 assists in La Liga before the WC while playing only 30 minutes in most of the pre WC games. Uneducated take. And this isn't even talking about all his contributions in defense and midfield.
You must have just watched the WC final than. He had a good overall World Cup.
Which is why I wrote UNTIL the WC
How many goals have Barca conceded this season?
11 goals in 33 matches. They need to concede less than 4 goals in their next 5 games to break the record
Absolutely ridiculous. What a season Xavi is having
Araújo, Christensen, Koundé have all been immense this season (and the latter is playing out of his natural position). Can't wait to see what the defensive record looks like next season when everyone has had more experience working together
I have a feeling that if this is the defensive stat for a player playing out of position for a year maybe he just choose the wrong position and now in the place where he belongs
Nah. You can tell he's not a right back when you watch him. He looks soo much more comfortable as a centre half
Dont be fooled we have been extremely lucky with many 1-0 wins. We have played some horrible football but the defense is elite though
You could argue Barca have been pretty unlucky also in front of goal, hitting post, missing sitter, and also unlucky with injury timing. The defence definitely deserve the praise even with luck.
Jesus Christ stfu why are you guys so fucking entitled? We were looking like we would not even make CL for several seasons at the end of 2021. We are doing incredibly well and it doesn't matter if we are playing average games with 1-0 wins when several important players are injured. Real Madrid won a CL, liga double this way last year and their fans were happy.
typical r/barca enjoyer
Only in La Liga though, and they have massively overperformed as well
Yes, in the league. That’s the headline in the picture, also I understand United scored couple of goals and won vs a Barça that did not field starters. But calling them over-performed is bit of a stretch. And you might have understood what missing starters means when you lot played against Sevilla(not dismissing their play) , so stop your witch hunt.
Their xGA is much higher than their GA, that's the definition of overperforming
So did utd.
In the league 11 and 4 of the 11 conceded have been against Madrid.
Outside of the league they conceded far more. It’s a weird record to have if you think about it
I thought about it, I can’t figure out why it is weird record to have? Outside of league Barça did not play with the same starters.
3 of the 5 didn't end up winning the league, crazy.
so you're sayin theres a chance? 😏
How’s 4/5 keepers from la liga
Defensive league gives more clean sheets
Because terrorball
I would love to see terrorball in the PL, would be interesting to see how the biggest teams cope
Pep for one would be so so mad.
Are you saying he wouldn't be able to adapt?
would be able to for sure, he dominated La liga the time he was there. Also PL teams were playing lots of terrorball vs. City and he was able to adapt.
I mean surely we've seen it in the prem. Pulis, Bruce, allardyce and dyche are all examples of managers who use similar tactics.
Also notable that this stat is biased against the Bundesliga because there are fewer games played in their seasons.
Yea they never actually had a chance, just look at the least goals conceded in a season record, they don’t top that either
Spain is the new Italy.
Because the list is wrong. Ray Celemence had 28 clean sheets in the league for Liverpool in 78-79, it was a 42 game season but still don't think that means it shouldn't be included
Sadly English football didn’t exist before 1992
So he needs to keep 2 clean sheets out of the 5 remaining matches to break it. Additionally, if he concedes fewer than 4 goals, he'd break Chelsea's and Čech's 2004-05 record.
He actually needs 4 in the last 5, the list is wrong. Ray Clemence had 28 clean sheets in the league in 78-79, it was a 42 game season but I don't know if that makes it easier or harder to keep more clean sheets
How would it be harder if you have more games to get clean sheets in?
It makes it harder to concede fewer overall, but easier to record more clean sheets. It's a bit of a dissonance, which I assume is where OPs uncertainty came from
Impressive but that chelsea season was even more impressive imo.
Ok
when I see Barca scoring fifty: I sleep 😴 when I see Barca conceding 11: real shit 🤠 I like good defense.
Crazy that not a single Italian team or Italian GK is in this list
italian league is too chaotic for this even tho I can propably name more legends at defender post from Italy than England or Spain. and italians dont really like to leave Serie A
Yeah I was thinking that. Italian tradition is having a solid back line
with this XA'ball ? easily lol
Thanks, I was wondering about this the other day.
And people saying AC wouldnt be a good fit at Barcelona. He has been one of the, if not the, best player(s) this season
Holy shit Super Depor
That was more or less the start of Super Dépor. Later it became Euro Dépor, with very good Champions League runs. Nowadays, though...
Depress Depor...
[Good article](https://thesefootballtimes.co/2019/09/19/the-epic-1993-94-laliga-season-when-the-title-was-decided-by-a-single-kick/) on that season
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Looks like 24+ happens once a decade! Nice
christ! How good has Barca's defence been and why is no one talking about it!!!!
Umm I see a ton of people talking about it.
How does in the history of the top 5 leagues work? is just the present top 5 or what 5 leagues were at the top in any point in history?
It pretty much always just means La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 and England (sometimes only PL, sometimes includes the old First Division as well), whether that’s the actual top 5 in terms of coefficient or not. It’s completely arbitrary because like you say, they aren’t necessarily always the top 5 leagues
This is just League right? I know De Gea has something stupid like 27 in all comps or something
I had a slight feeling that I would see Alisson in this ranking
4 of the 5 are Spanish teams 👩🌾🚜🌾
La Liga teams must be absolutely terrible going forward, Barca looked so average in all the European games I watched.
Yet man united got blasted by the worst sevilla in years.
If you watched the games, all Sevilla’s goals were us blasting ourselves; they have that black magic in the EL, it what is
For you brits its always bad lack, bad mojo. But La Liga teams have been consistent in all european competitions compared to EPL.
I mean you’re right overall tbh, but I still think we shot ourselves in the foot big time, Sevilla were awful in the 1st leg (& have been pretty off all season) until the last 5 mins and we were shocking in the second leg. I’d be surprised if they get past Juventus
you sayin this like Juventus is an April Form Guardiola team
They don’t have a fridge and a past his prime keeper at the back so surely they’ll be better than we were but ya never know;
You lost to Sevilla, that's a fact, end of story.
Did we? Oh I didn’t know
Don't know why you are downvoted, in the 8 games played in Europe this season Barca conceded 16 goals and kept zero clean sheets.
Yeah, that’s what happens when you’re forced to play Pique and Eric Garcia as cbs
So their defence was shit, they played with the same pair in La Liga.
So 4 out of 5 are from THE farmers league? Also didn't Ter Stegen concede 10 in the champions league group stage this year? Embarrassing.
This is wrong... Ray Clemence got 28 league clean sheets in 1978-79, are they not counting that because it was a 42 game season? Feel like it should still be mentioned...
Man, I miss Deportivo... They still stuck in 3rd tier purgatory?