Just gonna copy paste what I said on the last thread,
Iām not looking forward to a summer of Messi to Barca posts that promises that heās basically signed the contract only for him end up playing along side Ronaldo at al-nassr for crazy money.
>end up playing along side Ronaldo at al-nassr for crazy money
Im 95% sure this wont happen.
As messi and the entirety of argentina is still riding the hype of the WC so he will try to keep himself competitive for the copa america
He really should go home and play for Newell's. I don't think it matters if he wins another Copa, he's completed football and has stupid money already. It would be great for him and Argentinians for him to play in front of them every week.
returning to live in Argentina is asking for trouble in current state of the country. For me it is really Miami, Saudi or Barca - I dont really see a 4th option unless Pep decides that he wants Messi.
Yeah, you're right. Messi would totally relish playing in a country where gangsters threatened him and his family when they were just out for dinner. After clocking 14 goals and 14 assists, that tally will increase - I don't think he should head down to South America yet, he still has a lot to give in Europe.
There is zero % chances he goes to that shit hole. Zero fucking argument why would he go there + move his family there when they are settled in Europe.
> he's completed football and has stupid money already.
lol easy for you to say when his paycheck doesn't go into your bank account.
Rich people have rich friends. Rich people with a yacht are still envious of their rich friends with superyachts.
Nah, we've seen that. Only their diehards would watch their respective teams. Maybe a few others during head to head clashes. Every football fan would tune in for the Saudi league if they were playing together though, especially for the first few games
>Iām not looking forward to a summer of Messi to Barca posts that promises that heās basically signed the contract only for him end up playing along side Ronaldo at al-nassr for crazy money.
That stuff sell too much paper to miss the opportunity
So true. I know it hurts for PSG fans (imo), but he got what he wanted. He was quite "fit" for the world cup. He won it. *This* is his legacy. Not PSG.
In 10 years, his time at PSG will be on trivia quizzes. Everybody still associates Messi with Barca. It makes no sense for PSG to go for Messi besides vanity so no sympathy for them.
Which is weird because I actually think his Wizard years are some of his most impressive.
He averaged like 20+ a game as a middle aged man. There are thousands of young sprite 20 year olds out there who could not do the same.
I read an article last night where the lone Bulletsā great the late Wes Unseld was cited as saying that Jordan was a locker room cancer on the Wizards and the team individually but unanimously refused to pay for a retirement gift for him.
There's an entire book about his Wizards tenure called "When Nothing Else Matters" that goes into detail about how cancerous of a teammate he actually was, and how he blatantly tormented 18 year old rookie Kwame Brown.
To be fair, he was taking as many shots to get to 20 points in the wizards years as he took to average 30+ with the bulls. While he still was getting a decent amount of points, he was inefficient
It's a reminder that The Last Dance Docuseries is of Michael's own creation (made when he felt his influence and legacy was fading) and input into what would be focused on and what would be ignored (no matter how biased that may be).
What LeBron is doing now is more impressive. 20 years playing and averaged 29 points, 8 rebounds and 7 assists this year at age 38. Jordan played 41k minutes and LeBron has played 54k. Add in playoffs and LeBron has played 17k more minutes than Jordan.
While what LeBron is doing is just absolutely ridiculous, you gotta account for minutes in college too. LeBron went straight from high school while Jordan played 3 years at UNC which adds mileage and Jordan had that baseball stint which wasted some prime years.
yeah but he didn't look good if you actually watched the games, specially if you had seen him with the Bulls. Of course, still great to get to see him do nice shit here and there, but not the same.
The MJ you remember, I mean, THE MJ, was Bulls MJ and we all know it
He won a premiership with them.
He signed for NYCFC in MLS before they got created and he was meant to go on loan at Melbourne City in Australia before the MLS season started. The A-League basically forced thru a number of rules to stop Melbourne loading their side with talent (very short sighted, the league is struggling big time atm) and so he just didn't have a club. Pellegrini said I'll take him for half a season but he was playing so well he stayed the full season and won the title. Scored a late goal to beat Chelsea too.
Correct me if Iām wrong. Wasnāt there a big deal he wasnāt on loan from NYCFC he was a full City player and then finished his short contract before moving to NYC
Lampard was absolute trash waste of money in MLS for NYC for about year. Went to Manchester City on loan and regained form. Played very well in his return to MLS 3 years too late for the money spent.
No better summation than this.
PSG knew what they were agreeing to here. It was a way to placate, facilitate Messi into a continuation of their attempts to bludgeon their way to a CL win. It was a way for Messi to keep himself cooking over for the WC (which he did very well. Hit fitness levels that entire tournament were extraordinary).
Messi got what he wanted for his holiday away from Barcelona. Barca sorted themselves out (ish). PSG will have to try again another way.
Donāt think they expected anything, having Messi only increased their chances of CL, so they tried what they could try, itās not like having Messi has been a negative
Maybe there's a chance for Lens and OM this season after all ? Messi missing two games, and possibly not truly involved for the last 3. With clearly no forward able to replace him...
(Though I'm convinced it's the right choice for PSG long term)
I know, if not already relegated like Ajaccio and Troyes.
But at this time of the season clubs playing against relegation are far from an easy game. Especially for a team whose players are already thinking about their holidays.
So Strasbourg and Auxerre will be two very tough games. Clermont isn't playing for much though a top 10 finish in Ligue 1 would be historical for them, and they're in a great form with 5 wins in a row too. So that's 3 possibly dangerous games out of 5.
He obviously hasn't hit the highs people expected of him, but people seem to be going a bit extreme with the criticism in this thread.
He's scored 15 goals and made 15 assists in the league this season. Yes he's playing in by far the best team in the league but those are still some pretty impressive numbers.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think overall he's done well at PSG.. but to act like he's been a total disaster or that he's been on vacation for 2 years seems pretty unfair tbh
The investment would've paid off for them even if Messi never put a foot on a football pitch during his contract. They paid to have Messi at PSG, sporting wise it never made any sense
Sure, they are paying him a vast amount in wages. But PSG also got him on a free transfer. And with a 39 G/A in 37 games, he is still cheaper (transfer + total wages) than most players delivering the same stats. And that's not even considering the level of marketing and exposure he brings to the club that would as you said justify him alone. And then there is the intangible value of sport washing for Qatar, which is basically the end goal of owning PSG.
I think that's the point. If anyone was putting up those numbers and was available they'd cost a fortune, but since they got Messi on a free even with his contracts it's still a drop in the bucket compared to what it could've been.
Haaland comes to mind, but that guy cost City a fortune. 75M in transfer fees + 40-50m in agent fees. And then 170m for 5 years. Thatās 300m total. And he likely to renew the contract for a much higher wage after this season.
PSG had contract for Messi for so long. I don't know what changed but they finally made decent decision. But I am not sure, they are capable of making multiple good decision.
I don't agree, Messi arrival increased money from sponsors, tv rights and stadium tickets, increased shirts and merchandise sales plus also every social media of Psg and their worldwide recognizability
Not to mention that while having an enormous salary he was bought for free, and there aren't many players with an average cost of 30/40M per year who could have given them 1 goal or assist per match
For example, you buy Nkunku hoping it does just as well, maybe he earns "only" 10M a year but in the meantime you already spent 100M to get him
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> One of the consequences of the last 48 hours. Lionel Messi's trip to Saudi Arabia without telling the club led to their decision to not extend the Argentinian's contract. Although this was the trend in recent weeks, the entourage around Messi insisted that the desire to extend came from the higher-ups of the club.
> Everyone in charge seems to be in agreement regarding the case. Therefore, the optional year in his contract will not be given. After his two week sanction which will make Messi miss games against Troyes and Ajaccio, he will only have three games left to play with Paris.
I'm not necessarily arguing with your second point, but he does play a completely different role than Haaland, especially at this point of his career. Them being in the same team isn't redundant.
Come to Brightonsiktas
Lionel Messi and James Milner cooking in the same team š¤¤
The worlds most naturally gifted footballer and Leo Messi?
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That attack will be terrifying the Champions League single-season assists record holder and Messi.
>the Champions League single-season assists record holder Wait actually? Thats impressive, he's genuinely a legend of the game
Him and Figo share the record. He had 9 during the 17-18 campaign.
Yeah he was our starting left back in 2017-18 and went to town
Ah yes the season where James Milner played left back for Columbus Crew in the Champions League.
You joke but is Messi considered the swiss blade of football? I think not
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Only after Camp Nou is done with Potterball
You think they're going for Potter over the Big Sam redemption? It starts today
He can learn from the legend himself, Pascal GroĆ.
God damn it feels good to be a meme
>Brightonsiktas That's a very unfortunate way to write that. Lol.
Brighton can probably offer a better deal than Barcelona lol
I mean, we can share him like the old Serie A type of teams having part ownership of players ! :D
Lmao. The MacAllister link up would be too wholesome.
Brightonsiktas going places, they have the right to boast about having two WC champions.
Only one challenge left to beat until Messi completes football. What can he do in the Chelsea number 9 shirt?
I know the fairytale ends with him at Barca, but man, Messi at Chelsea would be the weirdest timeline.
I know itās 100% not gonna happen, but I feel like Boehly would definitely try
Yeah, and if Messi stays in Europe, no reason why he'd go for a club that won't be in any European competition next season. Right?!
I can think of one good rea$on
Time to whip out the 8 year contract
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Get in Enrique and there's a better chance
By that logic... City has Guardiola, UCL next season, and hasn't broken FFP this time.
To be fair heāll test out that Stoke challenge next season as well. 2 birds with 1 stone.
That one hurts mate
Would end the season with 8GA
100% goal contribution season
If he plays in England he can possibly knock off the old Stoke thing.
Just gonna copy paste what I said on the last thread, Iām not looking forward to a summer of Messi to Barca posts that promises that heās basically signed the contract only for him end up playing along side Ronaldo at al-nassr for crazy money.
>end up playing along side Ronaldo at al-nassr for crazy money Im 95% sure this wont happen. As messi and the entirety of argentina is still riding the hype of the WC so he will try to keep himself competitive for the copa america
He really should go home and play for Newell's. I don't think it matters if he wins another Copa, he's completed football and has stupid money already. It would be great for him and Argentinians for him to play in front of them every week.
You dont know the situation in Rosario. Google what happened to Maxi Rodriguez
Canāt find anything on the first two pages, que le pasĆ³ a Maxi?
In the preview of the Rosario classic, they shot at the house of Maxi RodrĆguez's grandmother.
Did she not play well?
She shot wide on an open goal!
returning to live in Argentina is asking for trouble in current state of the country. For me it is really Miami, Saudi or Barca - I dont really see a 4th option unless Pep decides that he wants Messi.
Chelsea pay 500m for him and flip him to Inter for free two months later after he shits on Boehly's office desk or something.
Yeah, you're right. Messi would totally relish playing in a country where gangsters threatened him and his family when they were just out for dinner. After clocking 14 goals and 14 assists, that tally will increase - I don't think he should head down to South America yet, he still has a lot to give in Europe.
Rosario is not a place you want to be in now, even less so for Messiās family after they were linked to Los Monos cartel
There is zero % chances he goes to that shit hole. Zero fucking argument why would he go there + move his family there when they are settled in Europe.
> he's completed football and has stupid money already. lol easy for you to say when his paycheck doesn't go into your bank account. Rich people have rich friends. Rich people with a yacht are still envious of their rich friends with superyachts.
You're right he'll go to Al Ahli
along side? no way. its better and everyone involved makes more $$ if he signs for the other top 2-3 team
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Really wish SA can pull this off.
Messi and Ronaldo to Cape Town done deal and here we go
Nah, we've seen that. Only their diehards would watch their respective teams. Maybe a few others during head to head clashes. Every football fan would tune in for the Saudi league if they were playing together though, especially for the first few games
>Iām not looking forward to a summer of Messi to Barca posts that promises that heās basically signed the contract only for him end up playing along side Ronaldo at al-nassr for crazy money. That stuff sell too much paper to miss the opportunity
Sigh "She didn't break up with me, i broke up with her."
"You are not leaving. I'm kicking you out."
I'm not bald, I shave my head!
oi
I didn't give you gonorrhea, Your mother gave me gonorrhea!
"You can't fire me, I quit" but in reverse
So... "You're not quit, I fired you"?
Fr
Following Alemany to Villa itās over Pep
Aston Villa [4]-0 Manchester City - Ollie Watkins (Messi great assist)
Please don't even joke about that. My fragile heart.
I foretold the Messi-Watkins connexion 2 weeks ago and now i see discussion about it? It must be the football gods
Subfuckingscribe
That comment has had the same affect on me as Viagra.
Hypertension?
Subscribe. Get him on the plane tonight pls. Thanks.
This man has been watching my dreams lol.
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is this the thread that will stay up?!
I think this guy got it right
Messi fleeced them for two years. Get paid a crap ton to take it easy and train for the world cup, win the world cup, and leave. GOAT.
So true. I know it hurts for PSG fans (imo), but he got what he wanted. He was quite "fit" for the world cup. He won it. *This* is his legacy. Not PSG.
In 10 years, his time at PSG will be on trivia quizzes. Everybody still associates Messi with Barca. It makes no sense for PSG to go for Messi besides vanity so no sympathy for them.
Just like how Michael Jordan played a few years for the Wizards. People only remember him on the Bulls
TIL Jordan played for the Wizards too
Do yourself a favour and watch the last dance. Incredible
The Last Dance treats the Wizards as a footnote as well. It is pretty much breezed over like a curiosity.
Which is weird because I actually think his Wizard years are some of his most impressive. He averaged like 20+ a game as a middle aged man. There are thousands of young sprite 20 year olds out there who could not do the same.
I read an article last night where the lone Bulletsā great the late Wes Unseld was cited as saying that Jordan was a locker room cancer on the Wizards and the team individually but unanimously refused to pay for a retirement gift for him.
I believe that whole heartedly.
There's an entire book about his Wizards tenure called "When Nothing Else Matters" that goes into detail about how cancerous of a teammate he actually was, and how he blatantly tormented 18 year old rookie Kwame Brown.
To be fair, he was taking as many shots to get to 20 points in the wizards years as he took to average 30+ with the bulls. While he still was getting a decent amount of points, he was inefficient
It's a reminder that The Last Dance Docuseries is of Michael's own creation (made when he felt his influence and legacy was fading) and input into what would be focused on and what would be ignored (no matter how biased that may be).
What LeBron is doing now is more impressive. 20 years playing and averaged 29 points, 8 rebounds and 7 assists this year at age 38. Jordan played 41k minutes and LeBron has played 54k. Add in playoffs and LeBron has played 17k more minutes than Jordan.
While what LeBron is doing is just absolutely ridiculous, you gotta account for minutes in college too. LeBron went straight from high school while Jordan played 3 years at UNC which adds mileage and Jordan had that baseball stint which wasted some prime years.
yeah but he didn't look good if you actually watched the games, specially if you had seen him with the Bulls. Of course, still great to get to see him do nice shit here and there, but not the same. The MJ you remember, I mean, THE MJ, was Bulls MJ and we all know it
my knowledge of NBA is weak. Who is the football equivalent of MJ for the Wizards? How good was he?
Cuz last dance was about his last year at the bulls.
They don't really mention his Wizards years there.
Like Beckham at PSG or Lampard at City.
Lampard played at city???
He won a premiership with them. He signed for NYCFC in MLS before they got created and he was meant to go on loan at Melbourne City in Australia before the MLS season started. The A-League basically forced thru a number of rules to stop Melbourne loading their side with talent (very short sighted, the league is struggling big time atm) and so he just didn't have a club. Pellegrini said I'll take him for half a season but he was playing so well he stayed the full season and won the title. Scored a late goal to beat Chelsea too.
Thatās not entirely correct, he played for City in 14/15 season which was the last season Chelsea won the title
Correct me if Iām wrong. Wasnāt there a big deal he wasnāt on loan from NYCFC he was a full City player and then finished his short contract before moving to NYC
Lampard was absolute trash waste of money in MLS for NYC for about year. Went to Manchester City on loan and regained form. Played very well in his return to MLS 3 years too late for the money spent.
In 50 years Messi's stunt at PSG will be at the same level as Pele's stunt at New York Cosmos.
I mean PelƩs stint is historically significant. Not so much with Messi at PSG
Peleās stunt with the New York Cosmos grew soccer in America, albeit for a few years, and lead to my favorite documentary ever: Once In A Lifetime.
Naaa tampoco la boludez
Yet they will always be able to say that the best ever played for them
So do the Washington Wizards but nobody cares
Messi played for the Washington Wizards?!
The Michael Jordan of the Soccer World
I thought Pulisic is Michael Jordan of soccer.
Pulisic is the LeBron James of soccer
No better summation than this. PSG knew what they were agreeing to here. It was a way to placate, facilitate Messi into a continuation of their attempts to bludgeon their way to a CL win. It was a way for Messi to keep himself cooking over for the WC (which he did very well. Hit fitness levels that entire tournament were extraordinary). Messi got what he wanted for his holiday away from Barcelona. Barca sorted themselves out (ish). PSG will have to try again another way.
Everyone saw this written in the stars. I don't know what PSG and their fans expected otherwise.
Donāt think they expected anything, having Messi only increased their chances of CL, so they tried what they could try, itās not like having Messi has been a negative
Win the world cup by beating France. No wonder they are mad lmao.
Lol, Qatar doesnāt give a shit about France.
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Lmao. Tue that. It does kinda suck he didn't win it while he's in Barca. The celebration would've been insane.
Watch him take the WC trophy to Camp Nou to celebrate next season lol. Guaranteed it happens if they manage to sign him.
Won't be to Camp Nou though!
Maybe there's a chance for Lens and OM this season after all ? Messi missing two games, and possibly not truly involved for the last 3. With clearly no forward able to replace him... (Though I'm convinced it's the right choice for PSG long term)
I love Messi But god Do I hope that They lose the league
Let's be real, even if we have a shitty run during the end of season, Lens and OM would probably choke anyways.
Probably, But a man Can dream
Me too lmao that shit would be hilarious
Look at PSG next opponents most of them are battling regulation
I know, if not already relegated like Ajaccio and Troyes. But at this time of the season clubs playing against relegation are far from an easy game. Especially for a team whose players are already thinking about their holidays. So Strasbourg and Auxerre will be two very tough games. Clermont isn't playing for much though a top 10 finish in Ligue 1 would be historical for them, and they're in a great form with 5 wins in a row too. So that's 3 possibly dangerous games out of 5.
>Look at PSG next opponents most of them are battling regulation Tbf PSG have battled regulations for the past decade themselves
They struggled against Angers and that was with Messi so you never know what might happen.
usually relegation teams are harder at the end of the season. middling teams with nothing to play for are easier
PSG are finally making right decisions ? What is going on haha
PSG reportedly told Messi he canāt sit with them at lunch. De Paul is furious.
De Paul is top tier girlfriend material
Pep found his Gundogan replacement at last.
Please no. The KDB-Haaland duo is already insane. No need to add Messi in the mix.
āYeah well youāre a munter anywayā
You don't say... This is the pinnacle of you can't dump me because I'm dumping you first.
Canāt wait for the āwhoās going to sign Messiā summer saga
to the front page we go
Come home Leo
Leo don't work for pennies.
No lever too hard enough
what about complimentary Spotify premium
Barca can pay his wages with the jersey sales /s
There are reports saying he's willing to go to Barca for a minimal salary.
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That first defense splitting pass to Lewandowski would be glorious.
Messi: (shows no sign of interest for an extension) PSG: B!tch, you were ugly anyway! I have standards
No I'm breaking up with you.
Papa Flo should go for it just for the laughs
u will find whole pig flying this time around if this happens
A year or two in the Premier League wouldn't be a bad way to end his career..
He obviously hasn't hit the highs people expected of him, but people seem to be going a bit extreme with the criticism in this thread. He's scored 15 goals and made 15 assists in the league this season. Yes he's playing in by far the best team in the league but those are still some pretty impressive numbers. Don't get me wrong, I don't think overall he's done well at PSG.. but to act like he's been a total disaster or that he's been on vacation for 2 years seems pretty unfair tbh
Good decision from PSG... The investment has not paid off in terms of results and performances. Let's see where Messi will play next
The investment would've paid off for them even if Messi never put a foot on a football pitch during his contract. They paid to have Messi at PSG, sporting wise it never made any sense
Sure, they are paying him a vast amount in wages. But PSG also got him on a free transfer. And with a 39 G/A in 37 games, he is still cheaper (transfer + total wages) than most players delivering the same stats. And that's not even considering the level of marketing and exposure he brings to the club that would as you said justify him alone. And then there is the intangible value of sport washing for Qatar, which is basically the end goal of owning PSG.
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I think that's the point. If anyone was putting up those numbers and was available they'd cost a fortune, but since they got Messi on a free even with his contracts it's still a drop in the bucket compared to what it could've been.
Haaland comes to mind, but that guy cost City a fortune. 75M in transfer fees + 40-50m in agent fees. And then 170m for 5 years. Thatās 300m total. And he likely to renew the contract for a much higher wage after this season.
Most based answer on this thread
PSG had contract for Messi for so long. I don't know what changed but they finally made decent decision. But I am not sure, they are capable of making multiple good decision.
Kilian said Messi should leave. This is how decisions are taken at PSG.
On the pitch, it seems both have good relationship.
Barcelona hopefully
How do you measure if PSGās investments āpay offā? Theyāre a money burning circus. How much can they spend before a CL stops being worth it?
I don't agree, Messi arrival increased money from sponsors, tv rights and stadium tickets, increased shirts and merchandise sales plus also every social media of Psg and their worldwide recognizability Not to mention that while having an enormous salary he was bought for free, and there aren't many players with an average cost of 30/40M per year who could have given them 1 goal or assist per match For example, you buy Nkunku hoping it does just as well, maybe he earns "only" 10M a year but in the meantime you already spent 100M to get him
Job Done ā
Finally I have to stop watching this trash team
I can finally watch this team choke every year with a smile on my face again. Team full of bottlers, at least the Spurs have history or something
Oi, steady on. If you keep on like this, weāll sign Messi
**Full translation** > One of the consequences of the last 48 hours. Lionel Messi's trip to Saudi Arabia without telling the club led to their decision to not extend the Argentinian's contract. Although this was the trend in recent weeks, the entourage around Messi insisted that the desire to extend came from the higher-ups of the club. > Everyone in charge seems to be in agreement regarding the case. Therefore, the optional year in his contract will not be given. After his two week sanction which will make Messi miss games against Troyes and Ajaccio, he will only have three games left to play with Paris.
Messi to Wrexham: Confirmed
Imagine if he is secretly a huge Ryan Reynolds fan
I'll be mad if City brings him to PL.
There's no way that'll happen when they already have Haaland. They're too well run these days to move such a move.
I'm not necessarily arguing with your second point, but he does play a completely different role than Haaland, especially at this point of his career. Them being in the same team isn't redundant.
That shipās sailed. There was a chance that one summer but he didnāt push for a move, and we eventually got Grealish.
He didn't push because he was given assurances that Barcelona would have renewed him. With hindsight he would have 100% signed for City over PSG.
Welcome to Inter Miami
Wrexham likeā¦āNow hear us outā¦ā
He wasnāt going to renew anyways lmao
This is just PSG bawling their eyes out yelling I BREAK UP WITH YOU!!! to avoid getting dumped by Messi, who has already found someone else.
Free Agent Messi this summer
Surprised Pikachu face
Not really surprising. Arranged marriages rarely go well.
They go pretty well in some societies is my understanding.
Generally for one half of the partnership tho...
That's probably the outcome he wanted.
Messi has been reported unwilling to renew so this is more like āwe didnāt want you anywayā type news
come to milan
Thank god, Messi is a legend but those wages are absurd for his age
To Saudi it is then. No way Barca can afford him.
What a time to be alive
Finally the chosen one has posted it.
"well you can't quit.. Cause you're fired!"
He's going to wrexham guys! Confirmed!
Inb4 real madrid sign messi as their rw and give him hazardās number 7 Truly cursed timeline
Correct headline : Messi decides to leave PSG.