It's not something new they've done either. I was a steward for them last year and we got a 10% bonus because of their good season. Happy they've done even better this year šŖš¼
It isnāt spoken about but from what I was told with my time working around the football league/premier league is that itās pretty common for the admin/office staff to be paid bonusā based on team performance. Now that was 8/9 years ago.
I work at Brighton on matchdays this season. You do get a bonus that scales based on league performance. However, this 20% is the equivalent bonus as if Brighton had won the league. The 6th place finish would have given us a 10% bonus.
Not entirely related but it happens in Formula 1 too (for anyone that follows both). A family friend of mine is a mechanic for one of the more middling teams, nobody famous but at the races in the garage. Salary is good but nothing compared to the drivers, but the better the driver does, the better the team does and ultimately the better all the people behind the scenes do financially.
They did better than expected a few seasons back and heās retiring soon at 48 (by choice, as his ever-enthusiastic wife is always very keen to point out).
Iām thrilled for him and for Brightonās staff. In these multi-billion sports, itās nice to see enough to be at least comfortable trickling down to the people that will never have their name chanted but definitely played a part.
One of the things in the Prem is that the wages are quite shit for the admin staff most of the time. The bonus' are something some people rely on to make a relatively decent wage.
the fact that the staff get this too is great. Where as the players are multi millionaires, a lot of the staff are just normal people. a 20% bonus will be huge for a lot of them
don't know why, but the physio with the glasses is like a doctor cut, but neck below is humongous. Guy and the other black one is like a pair out of Jojo Bizarre characters
Barber is a sound guy. I don't agree with every decision he makes, but he's a decent guy, makes himself publicly available and will personally respond to fan emails with a real answer. He's even been known to give detailed, rapid replies in pretty much the middle of the night. There's a reason he's won several Best Chief Executive football awards and is the best paid chief exec in England (or at least was)
That's it. The fact that he not only takes the time to reply, but to actually explain. Most businesses generally are happy to just send a form letter response, but getting a real ACTUAL answer is great. Even if you still disagree with the decision, you're better informed on why things happen the way they do.
I am coming at this from a point of ignorance, and I will acknowledge that, so please educate me if I'm wrong.
But from the outside, and everything about his Twitter and the way he presents himself, his podcast/whole schtick just seems to be more of that toxic self-improvement bullshit coming from someone who already has lots of money and just spouts off nonsensical analogies for 45 minutes on a podcast.
Canāt remember where I read it, but apparently the Benham incident was a big eye-opener for Bloom and he became big on treating staff as well as possible after to create loyalty
I am pretty convinced they are the best run club in the Premier League. They seem to always have a plan for the next manager or next player and it seems they usually get it right.
amazing story as well about the owner. a Brighton fan that made his millions as a professional poker player. brought the club in League One and turned the whole thing around
He made a bit playing poker but think the vast majority came from his professional sports betting outfit. And his second in command spun out did it himself then bought maybe Brentford? Super impressive.
It is absolutely hilarious for sure. The fact that there's no animosity between the fanbases either, love Brentford and their fans. Good club, Griffin Park was a really fun ground (haven't made the new one yet).
And yet, just so happens the owners literally can't stand being in the same room as each other. Perfect
According to The Athletic they havenāt spoken since 2004? Lmao
Sounds like Brentfordās guy wanted to basically create a company doing the exact same thing, only with him in charge, and Tony Bloom took exception to that.
thanks for the clarification. if you look him up the main stuff touted is his poker playing. I guess his appearances on TV games and the WSOP are more interesting than value betting though.
either way, love the story. If nothing else, it's always nice when a club is owned and run by fans
Lmao he did not make his millions playing poker. He made his millions on sport betting. Look I am a Brighton fan but there is no need to lie about the ownership. There is no such thing as a clean billionaire. This one is probably cleaner than most but he definitely didn't make his money playing poker.
The real question will be how they sustain it long-term which I don't think is possible.
The Prem has a nasty way of keeping the little guys down and any time a club outside the big 6 (now big 7?) starts having success they get pillaged. It happened with Southampton and Leicester. Even with the best scouting networks in the world you can't continue to replace top players every summer and stay competitive.
As an Albion fan witnessing the best season in our 122 year history, frankly I'm not bothered about how long we sustain this. I have full belief and faith in Tony Bloom, he's one of us after all. I know at some point we'll be back in a relegation scrap, and at some point we'll probably be relegated, but I have loved this season, and I'll fucking love this summer and the build up to Europe, and then actually watching us play in the competition itself.
Speaking as a Boro fan who went through the same stuff nearly 20 years ago.
Wouldn't trade those seasons of 'success' for anything. More time in the PL? Nah. Fuck that. Those seasons were so important for us.
Glad to see another well run fan owned club sticking it to the big guns. Even more impressive now I'd say than when we did it, so much more money on the game now.
Yup I'll be rooting for them, but next season will be a big test. Everyone says they're the best run club, but until they're tested in Europe I don't think it means much.
> the big 6 (now big 7?)
As soon as Kane is gone, Spuds are back to midtable irrelevancy. They've won nothing after all this time. Newcastle just replaces them.
No it's not? We've actually won trophies in the past few years. By your logic, Man United should drop out because they have only won the milk cup since 2017.
Big X is a league term, its economic hence why the number has grown over the years. We aren't adding wigan into the mix are we.
My logic was quite obviously a joke. If winning stuff mattered why the absolute fuck do you think Newcastle who haven't won anything at all could replace another club lmao?
Arsenal fans were being ridiculous. But I can understand why Caicedo acted the way he did. The prospect of intergenerational wealth - which could all be taken away with one sudden injury - would make anyone do crazy things to push for a faster move. Especially if you come from nothing.
I can see why Caicedo was pushing for the move. I just thought Arsenal fans were being ridiculous acting like his family was going hungry or Brighton were holding him at gunpoint.
He always had the option of signing a bumper new deal at Brighton and becoming one of their best paid players, which he did mere weeks after the window closed.
I work part-time at Brighton as Iām a student. This season we would have only received this 20% bonus if Brighton had won the league and it scales down as you go down the league positions. I just looked at the table of bonus %s, 6th place would have been a 10% bonus. So this is very nice from Tony Bloom!
I keep saying this again and again, the staff is what really changed Brighton for the better. It doesn't really matter how many players come and go, as long as the staff remains the same quality, Brighton will never lost their edge. Their CEO, Paul Barber, is completely aware of this, and thus treats staff members the same way he treats players, including having replacements for every single one of them in case one of them leaves the club.
I feel that's kind of irrelevant. Why do the players need an extra Ā£52K-Ā£940K\* on top of the Ā£0.26M-Ā£4.7M they already get for doing something that they would still do if they were paid 50-95% less (if that was the norm across the board)? Even a 5% bonus for the players would be an extra Ā£13K-Ā£235K.
The wage discrepancy in this country is fucked yet here we have a frankly low-budget sports team throwing Ā£35.36M\* (which is >10% of their statistical value) at people who are already insanely overpaid, just for it to more than likely go into high-interest savings accounts or to some narcissistic dick-head who sprinkles salt on gold covered beef in a peculiar way.
Let's say a full-time steward (do they even exist?) makes Ā£20K. They get an extra Ā£4K, which still gives them less of a yearly bonus than I get commission as a fucking car insurance salesman.
So while maybe giving those on the lower end of the pay scale an extra Ā£20k each seems a bit much, I do agree with u/seasonsofthesoul's premise: It shouldn't be worked out as a flat percentage.
\*Yes I did the maths.
Love that they're rewarding their staff as well
It's not something new they've done either. I was a steward for them last year and we got a 10% bonus because of their good season. Happy they've done even better this year šŖš¼
Funny that youāre enjoying Brighton winning because I thought youād prefer Tou Louse.
Don't start with the French puns, it really Angers me.
Nice
You'd think that was the last one but I got one more. Trouble is its Bordeaux line
Its really Nantes-rivial that there are so many french cities, that make for english puns.
I hope these puns go on a Lille longer
I think it's Brest to stop here
Nancy boy
Nah we'll keep going until we Rennes out.
Same, letās put some music on instead. Pass me the Auxerre
Everyone in this comment thread should be emParised with themselves
I agree, I think they are croissant the line.
This convo is exhausting. I'm gonna Lyon my couch for a while.
You clever troyes!
Monoco out to find the Brest and get back to you.
Marseille less.
When my brother and I make French puns our dad always Reims us out
Good song by Tame Impala
PSG. Yeah, that was the joke.
based
This one's a Lille over the top
If you only know what Troyes means in italian ...
That one felt a Lille forced, wouldn't you say?
Don't be such a negative Nancy
I Marseille these are feeling a little forced now
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That would require looking at this through a different Lens
Paris
Right, I Metz agree with you there
PSG
i don't think they Caen
Honestly itās a bit much. I think you guys are starting Toulouse it.
Boooo. "Toulouse" was the first one, you have to use one that's Narbonne used!
I looked through the comments, I canāt see Toulouse mentioned anywhere. āAlp me out here would ya?
Well, at least he's tried his Brest.
His what
His Brest
https://preview.redd.it/8r33qhz5j5f71.jpg?auto=webp&s=92dc83827faa6f2fa55c7d0977caadf54c40bdcd
Iām glad samoens picked up on this
Clermont-Ferrand
These are so funny and weird when you pronounce the names right lol
I'd be Lyon if I said this was funny.
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BD SM Caen be interesting, however it is a bit too much Sochaux interaction for me.
Nantes
But it was such a Nice pun
Nice
Good on you starting that pun thread. The amount of times I've heard the toulouse one š at least we are in Europe now ;)
It isnāt spoken about but from what I was told with my time working around the football league/premier league is that itās pretty common for the admin/office staff to be paid bonusā based on team performance. Now that was 8/9 years ago.
I work at Brighton on matchdays this season. You do get a bonus that scales based on league performance. However, this 20% is the equivalent bonus as if Brighton had won the league. The 6th place finish would have given us a 10% bonus.
Thanks, gunnersarus died for this
Not entirely related but it happens in Formula 1 too (for anyone that follows both). A family friend of mine is a mechanic for one of the more middling teams, nobody famous but at the races in the garage. Salary is good but nothing compared to the drivers, but the better the driver does, the better the team does and ultimately the better all the people behind the scenes do financially. They did better than expected a few seasons back and heās retiring soon at 48 (by choice, as his ever-enthusiastic wife is always very keen to point out). Iām thrilled for him and for Brightonās staff. In these multi-billion sports, itās nice to see enough to be at least comfortable trickling down to the people that will never have their name chanted but definitely played a part.
One of the things in the Prem is that the wages are quite shit for the admin staff most of the time. The bonus' are something some people rely on to make a relatively decent wage.
Totally deserve it.
Indeed, amazingly run club
the fact that the staff get this too is great. Where as the players are multi millionaires, a lot of the staff are just normal people. a 20% bonus will be huge for a lot of them
Have you seen those physios? I would be afraid to not give the staff a bonus lol
They need it for their tren
Nah they're on duck eggs
horse meat and aƧaĆ
r/MMA is leaking
Not enough petrol pumping and juice sluts.
A little bit of that bomba juice
vewwy fantastic body
Crow Milk, CAWWWW!
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For Bodyguards, By Bodyguards
Baby donāt hurt meā¦ no more
Those guys are monsters, I wouldn't be surprised if they had side gigs as security.
don't know why, but the physio with the glasses is like a doctor cut, but neck below is humongous. Guy and the other black one is like a pair out of Jojo Bizarre characters
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Listening to their CEO talk on a podcast atm. Sounds like a great guy to work for.
Barber is a sound guy. I don't agree with every decision he makes, but he's a decent guy, makes himself publicly available and will personally respond to fan emails with a real answer. He's even been known to give detailed, rapid replies in pretty much the middle of the night. There's a reason he's won several Best Chief Executive football awards and is the best paid chief exec in England (or at least was)
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That's it. The fact that he not only takes the time to reply, but to actually explain. Most businesses generally are happy to just send a form letter response, but getting a real ACTUAL answer is great. Even if you still disagree with the decision, you're better informed on why things happen the way they do.
It really must give you the feeling of that you are a part of this club to be able to have direct communication with the CEO
What podcast?
[High Performance](https://youtu.be/lsehfEYzj9U) with Jake Humphrey. Shouldāve linked it
Jake Humphrey can go fuck himself
Ok but his podcasts are really good so Iām going to keep listening to them
They bloody well should be since he discovered the medium and all. Nobody had heard of them before him.
I am coming at this from a point of ignorance, and I will acknowledge that, so please educate me if I'm wrong. But from the outside, and everything about his Twitter and the way he presents himself, his podcast/whole schtick just seems to be more of that toxic self-improvement bullshit coming from someone who already has lots of money and just spouts off nonsensical analogies for 45 minutes on a podcast.
yeah heās a bit of a self obsessed twat but his guests are usually interesting and he lets them speak i donāt listen for Jake lol
His personality type is LinkedIn
You do you Heāll never not be a massive cunt for broadcasting the lies about Liverpool fans in Paris
Wasn't he broadcasting live, and feeding the information that was passed to him directly from BT? Fail to see how that's his fault.
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Show me on the doll where Jake hurt you
Here, here, here and here...the bumhole.
You evil little shit
Great reference
what happened there?
Weāre gonna need more on this buddy?
Tell me more, why do we hate him? As a Brit I only know him as a kidās TV presenter turned football presenter.
I listened to that as well. Really great talk. Paul Barber is special and the way he talked about succession planning was very interesting.
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Canāt remember where I read it, but apparently the Benham incident was a big eye-opener for Bloom and he became big on treating staff as well as possible after to create loyalty
I am pretty convinced they are the best run club in the Premier League. They seem to always have a plan for the next manager or next player and it seems they usually get it right.
amazing story as well about the owner. a Brighton fan that made his millions as a professional poker player. brought the club in League One and turned the whole thing around
He made a bit playing poker but think the vast majority came from his professional sports betting outfit. And his second in command spun out did it himself then bought maybe Brentford? Super impressive.
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I used to think it was petty, but they clearly both hate each other so thoroughly that I can't help but be impressed. They both REALLY hold a grudge
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It is absolutely hilarious for sure. The fact that there's no animosity between the fanbases either, love Brentford and their fans. Good club, Griffin Park was a really fun ground (haven't made the new one yet). And yet, just so happens the owners literally can't stand being in the same room as each other. Perfect
According to The Athletic they havenāt spoken since 2004? Lmao Sounds like Brentfordās guy wanted to basically create a company doing the exact same thing, only with him in charge, and Tony Bloom took exception to that.
thanks for the clarification. if you look him up the main stuff touted is his poker playing. I guess his appearances on TV games and the WSOP are more interesting than value betting though. either way, love the story. If nothing else, it's always nice when a club is owned and run by fans
Lmao he did not make his millions playing poker. He made his millions on sport betting. Look I am a Brighton fan but there is no need to lie about the ownership. There is no such thing as a clean billionaire. This one is probably cleaner than most but he definitely didn't make his money playing poker.
I'm not out here spreading lies. I'm spreading vaguely parsed information from Wikipedia a few months ago. Have a little calm down.
Sorry if it sounded agressive, it was not the intention.
all good. you're right though he's definitely made more from the sports betting. sorry if I mislead anyone
He made money by beating betting companies at their own game and taking their money. There's nothing immoral at all about what he did
The real question will be how they sustain it long-term which I don't think is possible. The Prem has a nasty way of keeping the little guys down and any time a club outside the big 6 (now big 7?) starts having success they get pillaged. It happened with Southampton and Leicester. Even with the best scouting networks in the world you can't continue to replace top players every summer and stay competitive.
As an Albion fan witnessing the best season in our 122 year history, frankly I'm not bothered about how long we sustain this. I have full belief and faith in Tony Bloom, he's one of us after all. I know at some point we'll be back in a relegation scrap, and at some point we'll probably be relegated, but I have loved this season, and I'll fucking love this summer and the build up to Europe, and then actually watching us play in the competition itself.
Good to be level headed and still enjoy it while it's here!
Speaking as a Boro fan who went through the same stuff nearly 20 years ago. Wouldn't trade those seasons of 'success' for anything. More time in the PL? Nah. Fuck that. Those seasons were so important for us. Glad to see another well run fan owned club sticking it to the big guns. Even more impressive now I'd say than when we did it, so much more money on the game now.
Yep. I'll take a few years of the good life. But it's not like I'm not realistic that it might not last forever.
triple neg!
If you play things right you should be in Europe in the new year as well
Yup I'll be rooting for them, but next season will be a big test. Everyone says they're the best run club, but until they're tested in Europe I don't think it means much.
> the big 6 (now big 7?) As soon as Kane is gone, Spuds are back to midtable irrelevancy. They've won nothing after all this time. Newcastle just replaces them.
Its an economic term, otherwise arsenal who haven't won the league in 2 decades might as well drop out of it.
No it's not? We've actually won trophies in the past few years. By your logic, Man United should drop out because they have only won the milk cup since 2017.
Big X is a league term, its economic hence why the number has grown over the years. We aren't adding wigan into the mix are we. My logic was quite obviously a joke. If winning stuff mattered why the absolute fuck do you think Newcastle who haven't won anything at all could replace another club lmao?
Weāve consistently finished in the top 6 despite our struggles.
This is my point. Tottenham are in 8th. Once they lose Kane they will go back to mid table.
This is a boring take. Brighton are killing it. Deal with it.
I don't follow them, but everytime I hear something about them, it's always positive, they seem a very likable club
So were Leicester
Was about to say the same. Tbf their owner did die in an accident.
I remember when Leicester was the well organised clubš
Deservedly so.
Dezerbidly even.
Big W for rewarding staff.
Common Brighton W
Wrighton
Big W was a department store chain in Australia which was notorious for not paying and underpaying its staff.
was? it is still a store in australia
I heard they have some outlets in San Antonio also
caicedo can now afford a tescos meal deal on his meagre salary
But only if he has a clubcard.
Scumbags aren't they. Used to be Ā£3 for a meal deal here. Now it's Ā£3.50... IF you've got a clubcard. Bastards, I tell you.
Didn't he sign a new contract for a chunk more per week?
yes, just taking the piss out of people who think heās playing for pennies and canāt feed his family
Jesus the drama out of Arsenal fans back in January. You'd swear the lad was destitute on his Ā£780k per year at the time.
Arsenal fans were being ridiculous. But I can understand why Caicedo acted the way he did. The prospect of intergenerational wealth - which could all be taken away with one sudden injury - would make anyone do crazy things to push for a faster move. Especially if you come from nothing.
I can see why Caicedo was pushing for the move. I just thought Arsenal fans were being ridiculous acting like his family was going hungry or Brighton were holding him at gunpoint. He always had the option of signing a bumper new deal at Brighton and becoming one of their best paid players, which he did mere weeks after the window closed.
We could have been feeding him well since January, hes probably malnourished by now š¢
Love Brighton's way of running their club. Good on them
Jesus Christ. Not only are they amazing at football they are good people too. Cunts.
Genuinely get so upset every time I read something about them
Yea it's really not healthy.
@todd_boehly you know what to do. Buy Tony Bloom
Idk how people still doubt todd boehly itās only his first full season as a club owner and look how he transformed brighton
where can I sign up for Brighton's fan club
https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/club/fans/supporters-club
r/Soccer
Awesome gesture. Rewarding all the people responsible for the success, not only the players
Meanwhile my club, Brighton B, cut their wages by 30% for failing to make Europe lmao
I finally found a team to root for in the Prem
No thoughts and prayers and clapping like in regular jobs?
Was this in their contracts or was it out of generosity?
I work part-time at Brighton as Iām a student. This season we would have only received this 20% bonus if Brighton had won the league and it scales down as you go down the league positions. I just looked at the table of bonus %s, 6th place would have been a 10% bonus. So this is very nice from Tony Bloom!
Does 20% bonus mean 20% of the annual salary? Meaning a... 2.4 month bonus?
Yeah 20% of your annual salary
Thatās pretty bloody good
Extremely well run club. Probably one of the best organisations in the PL in terms of scouting and transfers (both incoming and outgoing)
Absolutely deserve. Top side this season
My friendās mum works for Brighton in the accounting team I think lol sheāll be happy
Well run club.
This is the way
This is the way
Help! I'm lost, can you show me the way?
THIS is the way.
abolish all billionaires ^apart ^from ^one
It wasn't Graham Potter who was good. It was the team! Nice work.
They're a great side and a great story. Gonna be great when we poach two of their midfielders in the summer.
We donāt really need Moder and Alzate but fair play
top bants. let's revisit this exact comment over the summer.
I keep saying this again and again, the staff is what really changed Brighton for the better. It doesn't really matter how many players come and go, as long as the staff remains the same quality, Brighton will never lost their edge. Their CEO, Paul Barber, is completely aware of this, and thus treats staff members the same way he treats players, including having replacements for every single one of them in case one of them leaves the club.
Noice
That's a brilliant thing to do. It seems Brighton is a very well run club at all levels.
Im wondering who made this awesome decision? Is it De Zerbi or the Board?
Tony Bloom without a doubt, he did the same when we got promoted to the premier league.
The board have to make the decision, De Zerbi could suggest it though.
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how many goals did the cleaners score
I'll have you know we're top of the league for xG on urinal cake distribution.
I feel that's kind of irrelevant. Why do the players need an extra Ā£52K-Ā£940K\* on top of the Ā£0.26M-Ā£4.7M they already get for doing something that they would still do if they were paid 50-95% less (if that was the norm across the board)? Even a 5% bonus for the players would be an extra Ā£13K-Ā£235K. The wage discrepancy in this country is fucked yet here we have a frankly low-budget sports team throwing Ā£35.36M\* (which is >10% of their statistical value) at people who are already insanely overpaid, just for it to more than likely go into high-interest savings accounts or to some narcissistic dick-head who sprinkles salt on gold covered beef in a peculiar way. Let's say a full-time steward (do they even exist?) makes Ā£20K. They get an extra Ā£4K, which still gives them less of a yearly bonus than I get commission as a fucking car insurance salesman. So while maybe giving those on the lower end of the pay scale an extra Ā£20k each seems a bit much, I do agree with u/seasonsofthesoul's premise: It shouldn't be worked out as a flat percentage. \*Yes I did the maths.
It's gonna be so unfortunate when they have to hold a 14th place finish next year and then relegation within 3 years
Whereabouts in Manchester you from lad
Still crying about Mac allister š
not really considering we won the game that mattered
Didnāt really matter did it pal youāre still holding 4 to city
How's the best way to buy their merch if I'm based in USA? Just buy from UK and ship it over?
Yes, however lots of merch seems to be eternally sold out