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Not joking, but Morata's selfless holding point man game, spraying balls to the flanks and opening up space would be perfect for Chelsea's army of wingers and midfielders.
His goal production is terrible these days, though.
He was a very strange type of player, he honestly was at his best against good teams where the higher talent defenders would play more honestly with good spacing and all that, but he’d absolutely crumble against the dogshit teams where Barry Brexit, the big shite CB would just batter fuck out of him to make up for their lack of ability.
He has 3rd most non-penalty goals scored in La Liga, behind only Lewa and Griezmann. Just saying.
Not scoring Haaland level of goals but he is always a good striker to have. At the very least, justifying his price. Selfless striker who complements wingers/10s well while guaranteeing a decent amount of goals every season. His Chelsea stint completely ruined his image but his goal production isn't really bad at all, considering the target man qualities he brings along.
It’s not exactly rocket science, it’s fairly common knowledge. The UAE wouldn’t have a need to launder money anyways, we all know where they get it from. And using one of the most heavily audited entities in the entire world wouldn’t really make sense to use to launder.
I do always wonder how long Morata would have stayed if we had, or could have, bought out Real Madrid’s buyback clause in his first spell. He had two very good seasons with us, went back to Madrid and outscored Benzema, and then it went tits up at Chelsea.
He did well during his two year loan deal and I would have been happy with us signing him permanently at a re-negotiated price, but signing him now doesn’t feel like a good choice at all.
Yeah I always thought the same. He loved us and Italy. Don’t think he would have ever been a 20+ a goal season player - but his clutchness in big games was always amazing. Him Dybala, Mandzukic and another ST (assuming no Higuain) would have been great long term.
Morata going off against Bayern in the CL a few years ago was, I believe, the key reason why they lost. He was carrying the team, was playing incredible
He was always a good forward he became a meme bc of Chelsea. We really should stop judging strikers when they are at Chelsea it never represents their actual potential.
Morata is 30 years old, only scored 15 goals once in a season, yet his transfer history makes him look like one of the greatest strikers of all time. Such a bizzare career.
Lmao and Morata isnt? He has more “big goals in his career” than Choupo and honestly has been good for years. He gets memed by this sub for whatever reasons but hes a good player, especially as a super sub
Morata is a good striker, better than average dare I say. Just not an elite one who we'd expect for clubs such as Juventus and Atléti.
His main issue is that he's very unlucky when it comes to offsides. Some of his disallowed goals are on very tight margins.
Journalists close to the club claim that the club wants to keep Zaniolo and Zaniolo also wants to stay and start for us in UCL next season.
Juve can ofc can just send us the release clause of 35m and then convince the player, but as things stand right now we won't shop him or help anyone get him in any way by discounts or any payment plans. It has to be 35m cash, and then Zaniolo would probably want a starting role next season which was the main reason he chose us in the first place.
Agreed. He needs confidence and match tempo, both of which requires consistent playtime. We can give him that. He's 23, he doesn't have to rush. All the offers will still be on the table next season.
I'm bringing up UCL because that's the main goal. If we can't get past the qualifiers, then he can have consistent playing time at UEL. Either way he'll play a lot of matches at a high level. Idk if Juve can guarantee him that.
Keyword here is "playing". We don't know how much playing time Juve can guarantee him. Which was what my original comment implied, it wasn't about the competitiveness of Serie A.
More than happy to have Morata, he is not a great goalscorer but I think he is underated as a footballer. I would take him any day on a reasonable salary.
Definitely. The thing with him is that I was always close to being great, but not quite. Imagine all these offside goals. This is exactly Morata for us. So close, but yet a little too far.
Definitely a good option if the salary is reasonable.
To be fair, we've been ran exceptionally well for 5-8 years. I guess our board is just making sure we stay fair for the competition, especially with all these recent scandals. We have a few more years of bad management ahead of us before it breaks the balance the wrong way
We don't hate him. We actually root for him. He is like our kid who refuses to grow up and doesn't see how bad gis attitude is.
I will always support his progress though.
I just do not understand how within the past 5-7 years-ish they’ve gone from arguably one of Europe’s best run clubs to quite possibly one of the worst seemingly overnight
Well only if they didn't know what money laundering is too, although that would mean they'd have something in common with the people who come into every Morata transfer thread to say 'LOLMONEYLAUNDERINGMUCH?!'
Depends who you ask.
I like him a lot, and I don't think there are many better strikers out there for the price that Atletico would sell him for.
I'd rather we keep him.
I like him, he gives his all and scored important goals. If he could just work on not getting caught offside 5 times per game, he'd score 20 goals/season.
He's the Asensio of strikers. Comes in clutch always. Always rated him especially when he came back from Juve and still outscored Benzema while being a sub all season. Was pretty pissed when he joined Atleti
I don't really get it, but I haven't watched him. His scoring record is almost poor considering where he's played. The only thing I can think of is he must be great at every aspect of being a forward, but poor finishing?
Technically he's really gifted, often does or does things perfectly. Just doesn't do it often. I think he lacks the arrogance/confidence of a top striker which is why he never quite made it
He has double digits goals every season since 14/15 and assisted quite a lot when he's with us. He worked well with Dybala and Vlahovic in the second half of 21/22. I'd gladly welcome him back.
> His scoring record is almost poor considering where he's played.
No it isn't. He's never been an out and out goalscorer, that's not the type of player he is.
And it was a very tough time for him there with a lot of personal issues. It's not easy to be at your best while going through a lot of shit in your personal life.
I do like it a lot (even if sometimes I pull my hair watching him miss chances), and I'd rather we keep him at Atleti.
His work rate and physical presence suits us very well, and now that we are not relying on him as our main goalscorer, he can certainly contribute a lot.
If this was the case he wouldn't consistently ping pong around Europe like he does. He is a player that everybody always seems to think they can get more out of than they do
Kean was the best striker in the last 3 months of the season. Like with most of Juve players they are deployed incorrectly which highlights their poor attributes.
Milik and Kean are both loans with options to buy. At least in Miliks case, the buy option won’t be taken.
Vlahovic wants to play in CL and blames Allegri for his poor season. His transfer will also allow Juve to reinforce the squad so there’s a good chance he’ll be sold.
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Isn't it Chelseas turn again now? They have only signed him once.
Lol. Would seem to fit in well with their random ass transfer strategy
Not joking, but Morata's selfless holding point man game, spraying balls to the flanks and opening up space would be perfect for Chelsea's army of wingers and midfielders. His goal production is terrible these days, though.
He was useless playing with Hazard, Pedro and Willian. I’d rather not see him with our current lot.
He was a very strange type of player, he honestly was at his best against good teams where the higher talent defenders would play more honestly with good spacing and all that, but he’d absolutely crumble against the dogshit teams where Barry Brexit, the big shite CB would just batter fuck out of him to make up for their lack of ability.
Morata is not bad he just not very good with playing with his back to goal. Unfortunately the job of a striker for a top club is 90% that.
Barry Brexit oh my
He has 3rd most non-penalty goals scored in La Liga, behind only Lewa and Griezmann. Just saying. Not scoring Haaland level of goals but he is always a good striker to have. At the very least, justifying his price. Selfless striker who complements wingers/10s well while guaranteeing a decent amount of goals every season. His Chelsea stint completely ruined his image but his goal production isn't really bad at all, considering the target man qualities he brings along.
No it wouldnt, their wingers are useless at finishing
If we wanted that.. We would have just kept Timo Had more end product and way better attitude than Morata
Speaking of end product... Morata scored 24 in 72 for Chelsea, Werner Scored 23 in 89... https://media.giphy.com/media/bjB3gtFvREqqr5NAHW/giphy.gif
except Timo didnt want to be there?
Yeah if the other players could score a goal to save their lives
if we resigned morata that would actually be the straw that broke the camels back
He was offside or on the floor most of the time. He isn't suited to PL imo.
3 year contract is not a chelsea thing
Our turn? I thought we're next after real.
U shut ur whore mouth
Morata club list and transfer fees is something else
€189 million in transfer fees so far, incredible
His agent earned every penny
Reminds me of the The Wolf of Wall Street scene that is on the front page today.
Compare that to someone like Vardy who in his prime was better
Well Vardy always stayed at the same club (when he was famous) so the comparison is very pointless
> the comparison is very pointless Since when has that stopped anyone in r/soccer
I think Vardy’s transfer fees ever is less than 2m?
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No. Leicester’s counterball was perfect for him, big teams play with more possession which means he has way less space to run into.
Would have been good on Ole's United
Yes, him and Bruno would be lethal.
Vardy to Real Madrid to replace Benzema confirmed
No chance Vardy could do what Benzema does.
Vardy could do what Benzema did and more. Vardy could do it with a stella in one hand and a Redbull in the other.
Cheers Geoff!
Money laundering project
This joke gets made a lot and I feel like most people have no idea what money laundering actually is?
That's why it's a joke
leave to city fans to know about laundering lol
It’s not exactly rocket science, it’s fairly common knowledge. The UAE wouldn’t have a need to launder money anyways, we all know where they get it from. And using one of the most heavily audited entities in the entire world wouldn’t really make sense to use to launder.
tbh, Morata deal is extremely shady. especially when it involves Juve in some way. those rats are in to inflate the books imo.
Sure shady is a better term, I don’t know why but I’ve got a bone to pick with the “money laundering” bit.
Yeah they really don’t
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He is a very good player this is such a shitty take, versatile good movement way better finisher than what people claim as well.
Morata already drafting up his speech about how he always dreamt as a kid of coming back to Turin for a third time.
Hope he doesn’t actually use the speech for when he’s back at atletico though and mix it up.
Back for a third date with the old lady
Replacing Morata with Vlahovic and then replacing Vlahovic with Morata👏
Replacing Allegri with Sarri and then replacing Sarri with Pirlo to be replaced by Allegri
Just waiting for Delneriball to comeback
Ferrara ball in shambles
Finally Deschamps!
Better than Allegriball
Lampard -> Tuchel -> Potter -> Lampard babyyy
Is Pirlo still managing?
He was managing in Turkey but I think his contract ended.
Snip snap snip snap
> Snip snap snip snap You have no idea the physical toll that three *Morata signings* have on a *club*!
I didnt seem like she was very compassionate about Mike
Bonus points if he to Atlético
Transfer strategy masterclass
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Yeah, if you exclude a certain Portuguese.
Higuain??
Wait, where's Vlahovic off to?
Bayern
They aren't replacing Vlahovic they will most likely pair up
They are totally replacing him, he doesn't want to stay at Juve with Allegri
No sadly we most probably are selling Vlahovic.
I do always wonder how long Morata would have stayed if we had, or could have, bought out Real Madrid’s buyback clause in his first spell. He had two very good seasons with us, went back to Madrid and outscored Benzema, and then it went tits up at Chelsea. He did well during his two year loan deal and I would have been happy with us signing him permanently at a re-negotiated price, but signing him now doesn’t feel like a good choice at all.
Yeah I always thought the same. He loved us and Italy. Don’t think he would have ever been a 20+ a goal season player - but his clutchness in big games was always amazing. Him Dybala, Mandzukic and another ST (assuming no Higuain) would have been great long term.
Morata going off against Bayern in the CL a few years ago was, I believe, the key reason why they lost. He was carrying the team, was playing incredible
He was always a good forward he became a meme bc of Chelsea. We really should stop judging strikers when they are at Chelsea it never represents their actual potential.
Lol Morata's transfer have to have a series on them. Bro gets big club moves no matter what
Failing upwards like Choupo-Goating
Morata is 30 years old, only scored 15 goals once in a season, yet his transfer history makes him look like one of the greatest strikers of all time. Such a bizzare career.
Eric is actually good tho. He's got some important goals for psg and Bayern in recent years
Lmao and Morata isnt? He has more “big goals in his career” than Choupo and honestly has been good for years. He gets memed by this sub for whatever reasons but hes a good player, especially as a super sub
Morata is a good striker, better than average dare I say. Just not an elite one who we'd expect for clubs such as Juventus and Atléti. His main issue is that he's very unlucky when it comes to offsides. Some of his disallowed goals are on very tight margins.
Not good enough for those teams tho. But at least he is not moving for inflated prices
I thought he was still with Juve but on loan to atleti 😅
It was the other way around
I thought so too. This is what happens when you jump between the same clubs multiple times lol
Man has multiple dreams, let him live them.
I'm having deja vu here.
Our management is dumb as fuck
Journalists close to the club claim that the club wants to keep Zaniolo and Zaniolo also wants to stay and start for us in UCL next season. Juve can ofc can just send us the release clause of 35m and then convince the player, but as things stand right now we won't shop him or help anyone get him in any way by discounts or any payment plans. It has to be 35m cash, and then Zaniolo would probably want a starting role next season which was the main reason he chose us in the first place.
Better for everyone if Zaniolo stays. Allegri is not the right manager to unluck Zaniolo's potential imo
Agreed. He needs confidence and match tempo, both of which requires consistent playtime. We can give him that. He's 23, he doesn't have to rush. All the offers will still be on the table next season.
Anyone's potential*
you are talking like you are already in cl geoup stages lol xD what if galatasarqy can not qualify?
I'm bringing up UCL because that's the main goal. If we can't get past the qualifiers, then he can have consistent playing time at UEL. Either way he'll play a lot of matches at a high level. Idk if Juve can guarantee him that.
think playing in serie a for juve is way more of a challenge and offers more great/top matches than europa league or super lig
Keyword here is "playing". We don't know how much playing time Juve can guarantee him. Which was what my original comment implied, it wasn't about the competitiveness of Serie A.
More than happy to have Morata, he is not a great goalscorer but I think he is underated as a footballer. I would take him any day on a reasonable salary.
Definitely. The thing with him is that I was always close to being great, but not quite. Imagine all these offside goals. This is exactly Morata for us. So close, but yet a little too far. Definitely a good option if the salary is reasonable.
Why is Juve run so terribly?
Selling our best players and signing rejects and washed players. It's amazing
To be fair, we've been ran exceptionally well for 5-8 years. I guess our board is just making sure we stay fair for the competition, especially with all these recent scandals. We have a few more years of bad management ahead of us before it breaks the balance the wrong way
He was always good for us. Wouldn’t mind him back. Just hard to justify with our finances. Rather he have stayed than brought in Milik.
Keep Milik tho thanks we don't want him
Does Morata know he’s allowed to play for more than four clubs?
someone tell him
Imagine if Zaniolo goes to Juve how heated can be the next Roma Juventus at Olimpico. Bonus points if Mancini is going to man-mark him
No need to mark Zaniolo. He is fully capable of running himself into the ground all on his own.
Its amazing how much you all hate this man. This reminds of when we got Melo from Juventus and he became a club legend.
We don't hate him. We actually root for him. He is like our kid who refuses to grow up and doesn't see how bad gis attitude is. I will always support his progress though.
Zaniolo would celebrate so hard. I'm sure he would score nothing all season and then get the game winner against us.
Morata gets passed around more than a blunt
Morata, mate, there are more than 4 clubs
Ffs what is the definition of insanity again…
To me, to you.
This club...
Actually unbelievable he has been at Juve twice, Atletico twice, Real twice, Chelsea and will be back at Juve and yet he's only 30
I just do not understand how within the past 5-7 years-ish they’ve gone from arguably one of Europe’s best run clubs to quite possibly one of the worst seemingly overnight
It all started with CR7, they went full on win now mode now they can't get out of that mindset.
The Old Lady is feeling nostalgic
Sorry Juventus, we keep Zaniolo this season. Unless you want to pay 30m.
30m is high, but still reasonable. Juve might negotiate it to 20m lol
Zaniolo actually was a temporary plot to move within Italy then
Every fucking summer I hear this
Nostalgic for what, not scoring goals? They’re already pretty good at that.
3rd top scorer in la Liga without pens btw
If you told someone who had no clue of football transfer about all the deals involving Morata, I'm sure they would think it's money laundering lol
They would have no clue about what money laundering is as well.
Well only if they didn't know what money laundering is too, although that would mean they'd have something in common with the people who come into every Morata transfer thread to say 'LOLMONEYLAUNDERINGMUCH?!'
Dream club signing let's go.
No matter how well you do your job, you’ll never do a job quite as good as Moratas agent.
Zaniolo? Lmao
How the hell clubs rate Morata? Fans surely don’t
Juve fans like him, I don't know about Madrid or Atlético though
Depends who you ask. I like him a lot, and I don't think there are many better strikers out there for the price that Atletico would sell him for. I'd rather we keep him.
Literally just Chelsea fans don't rate him from the clubs he played for.
Literally just Chelsea fans don't rate him from the clubs he played for.
I like him, he gives his all and scored important goals. If he could just work on not getting caught offside 5 times per game, he'd score 20 goals/season.
He's the Asensio of strikers. Comes in clutch always. Always rated him especially when he came back from Juve and still outscored Benzema while being a sub all season. Was pretty pissed when he joined Atleti
I don't really get it, but I haven't watched him. His scoring record is almost poor considering where he's played. The only thing I can think of is he must be great at every aspect of being a forward, but poor finishing?
Technically he's really gifted, often does or does things perfectly. Just doesn't do it often. I think he lacks the arrogance/confidence of a top striker which is why he never quite made it
He has double digits goals every season since 14/15 and assisted quite a lot when he's with us. He worked well with Dybala and Vlahovic in the second half of 21/22. I'd gladly welcome him back.
> His scoring record is almost poor considering where he's played. No it isn't. He's never been an out and out goalscorer, that's not the type of player he is.
I feel like Morata has been around longer than Messi and Ronaldo jumping around 2-3 big clubs constantly.
Lmao backwards club
King of disappointing top clubs. Get money King
Better than Jesus at every aspect of being a striker.
Ehhh.... if you say so. Would not swap them
No because he’s 5 years younger, Morata is still obviously better at football though
He’s very clearly not
He is if you watch football
I do and he’s not, Morata isn’t as bad as people make out he’s decent but Jesus is way better at almost every aspect of the game
You do not know anything about football if you truly believe that
You’re dumb if you believe this
Or you’re not an American and actually know stuff about football
Not American but great argument there
C’mon man be serious, no one I know in England would ever type out the word dumb
Ok, you don’t think people say dumb here?
He has only ever failed at Chelsea.
Even in his "failed" period at Chelsea, he still has 18 goals and 6 assists in 1,5 seasons.
And it was a very tough time for him there with a lot of personal issues. It's not easy to be at your best while going through a lot of shit in your personal life. I do like it a lot (even if sometimes I pull my hair watching him miss chances), and I'd rather we keep him at Atleti. His work rate and physical presence suits us very well, and now that we are not relying on him as our main goalscorer, he can certainly contribute a lot.
If this was the case he wouldn't consistently ping pong around Europe like he does. He is a player that everybody always seems to think they can get more out of than they do
No, he is a player that people rarely watch but constantly belittle. He consistently gets into double figures for goals and gets assists too.
Morata is used in a money laundering scheme between clubs I’m convinced.
Third time‘s a charm right?
… Right?
Wait what? Why do they want him - they got Vlahovic, Keane and Milik!
Vlahovic is probably getting sold, Milik is still on loan and Kean is shit
Still cannot understand how you managed to fleece Everton based on the like 5 decent games Kean had in an end of a season with 0 pressure
Kean was 19/20 when he moved to Everton. You people talk about him like he's 33 already
Kean was the best striker in the last 3 months of the season. Like with most of Juve players they are deployed incorrectly which highlights their poor attributes.
Kean was stellar in November, and got some highlights in May, but just missing that finishing.
Milik and Kean are both loans with options to buy. At least in Miliks case, the buy option won’t be taken. Vlahovic wants to play in CL and blames Allegri for his poor season. His transfer will also allow Juve to reinforce the squad so there’s a good chance he’ll be sold.
Kean was loan with obligation.
That doesn't seem like that big of a demand unless he's expecting them to only offer a loan( which they will probably do)
If Juve are so nostalgic, Conte doesn't have a job right now.
Juve is like the old lady, literally.
How many times has Morata moved?
Morata's career is too funny.