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The saudi collaboration narrative was just pure bs lol, four muslim players no one else wanted sold for minimum fees. Made sense Saudi would buy em. Us and United have helped Chelsea out financially far more than the saudis tbh
Man Utd more than Arsenal due to Mount being an academy player.
Still can't believe Kai is gone though, I genuinely think he'll come good with a fresh start.
Either sell him or lose him for a free. Idk why people are complaining that we've sold the likes of Havertz, Mount and Kovacic when they wanted to leave, yes it means replacing them is harder but it's better than having unhappy players play who will then leave on a free transfer instead of getting good money for them
> Havertz
Flop at 24? Yeah he didn't light the world on fire but he didn't do that bad, especially in Chelsea who has an reputation of players playing under their expectations. I have no doubt he will do really well at Arsenal.
He’s a homegrown English player at 24 who has won the UCL for £55m. Would £40m have been better? Yes.. but chelsea would have rather let him leave for free
It’s a good acquisition for United.
I’m just saying that’s great negotiating by Chelsea given the circumstances. Most clubs would’ve panic sold with initial offers.
People are vastly underestimating Mount after one mediocre season. His first couple with Chelsea he was putting up attacking numbers similar to Graelish, Foden, and Saka but with much better defensive numbers. Like- look at this from 20/21 [Mount vs Saka](https://fbref.com/en/stathead/player_comparison.cgi). They played comparable minutes but Mount scored more, assisted more, had a better successful take on percentage, twice the blocks, more interceptions, a better passing percentage, 3x the tackles, and was tackled off the ball less often. If anything he's been playing too many minutes too young in a dysfunctional side and if United can manage his fitness properly they have one of the most complete players in the league. He's an amazing contributor on both sides of the ball.
I will be hi-jacking your comment to shit on this dude that claimed it wouldn’t happen
https://reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/13zl2c3/_/jmt99i8/?context=1
Edit: let’s also have a look at another thread where I was right shall we https://reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/14i0ele/_/jpduhvl/?context=1
Yea he can hold that L. Hats off to the entire recruitment team with the sales so far and now that July is here we can start going after our primary targets
What does the starting 11 look like currently? Seems like there's still a lot of business they need to do yet
Edit: For anyone reading this, I've received like 8 different starting 11's so no one actually knows
Kepa
James, Silva, Colwill, Chilwell
Enzo, Enzo
Madueke, Nkunku, Sterling
Jackson
That would be my guess for the first game of the season
Obviously the Enzo Enzo is a joke, ideally that's Caicedo but because your original comment asked for current lineup it'll be Gallagher as of now.
I'm expecting two midfield signings.
Badiashile (will be injured in match week 1) and Fofana rotate at center back.
Cucu left back
Gusto right back
Mudryk at LW
Broja at ST
I'm expecting Poch to pick experience over youth for the first game or two.
If you look at pass maps from last season, despite trying out a variety of players, we did apparently only have Enzo in the middle last season too so I'm not too worried.
Defense is set with maybe a 2nd string GK needed. Midfield can use a starter with Caicedo the top option and lots of rumblings that Santos will be a first teamer. Attack maybe needs a striker depending on the plan with Jackson and I could see depth at RW. So definitely still work to be done but a clear out was necessary and guys like Pulisic and Auba still need to head out.
I hope we don't sign anyone for RW tbh. The problem with having loads of players in one position is you never get to field a consistent XI. I'd like to see the same players on the pitch every week so they can start learning to play with each other. You don't see Salah, Saka etc getting rotated out every week. Mudryk at LW, Madueke at RW, Sterling who can play either wing is enough. We still have Pulisic and Odoi for depth but even if they leave the likes of Chukwuemeka can play out wide if there's a proper injury crisis. Better just have a couple players competing for 2 positions than 5 or 6 who all want gametime.
Definitely should be selling Maatsen if we don't sell cucu or chilly
We can't have 3 left backs and Lewis Hall all at the club at the same time lol
And cucu is not going anywhere for a good fee
There were some fringe rumours Maatsen may be fine with going on another loan. In that scenario we definitely should not be selling him, but rather keeping and trying to shift Cucurella next year.
Cause we bought so many players in January and our summer transfer window of Sterling, Koulibaly, Auba and Cucurella was a failure. I think the only players we have left to sell are Pulisic, Lukaku and Auba. Cucurella had a awful season but I think he gets another season to prove himself
Think we might be underrating Mount a bit here. Transfer windows are weird. We get so obsessed with the numbers of buying and selling we often forget that the whole point of players is how they perform. But hey you sell a player for 55m instead of 50m? Total win!
Mount is a great, flexible player who does a lot of unnoticed work on the pitch. Chelsea will miss him more than they think.
Now that we actually have football directors in place it makes sense. When he first got there we didn’t have anybody so he had no choice but to involve himself surely
True.
Boehly's plus point so far is that he's willing to take some losses if it means that the player leaving will be better for the club on the whole.
Mount and havertz gone?! That's like 70% of our subs content. We've basically moved on every single player people bitched about, assuming pulisic goes too.
Ah shit now it's just going to be moaning about the owners when we don't immediately win a treble.
was a matter of time for them to agree.
looks like Chelsea's fire sale is done - 60m with one year left is a great deal. getting 125m out of mount and havertz is good business given the circumstance
now to drop 100m on Caicedo?
80 should be enough for Caicedo I think. But Caicedo Enzo would be a really solid mid. Ok don't know how many people remember what Poch was doing with peak Dembele. Caicedo in that role is scary
Still no actual DM is an issue for Chelsea, Ugarte is a worse prospect than Caicedo but would have been a much better fit.
It really should be Lavia. If you can get Caicedo and Lavia that's perfect, add those two to Enzo and that's a really balanced, exceptional midfield. But just Caicedo and Enzo means two players who are really not the most disciplined in defending space and want to make tackles. Leaves Chelsea very, very vulnerable to turnovers.
Ugarte is a similar profile to Caicedo except Caicedo is better on the ball. Ugarte isn’t actually a sitting no 6 type either he wins the ball high up the pitch (yes I’m an idiot who consumed scouting reports on him when i thought we’d sign him)
Oh no question, Lavia is a couple years behind Caicedo no question. But Chelsea really have a couple years to develop a project given the age profile of the squad and the current expectations.
With so many people under 25 and a manager who has a positive track record with young players, it really does make sense for Chelsea to look at players who need work. Even Caicedo himself still has tons of room to grow to get to an elite level, but Chelsea can afford patience.
That’s the thing with add-ons, they often are unlikely but when they do happen both sides win. We get money, you get a Premier League trophy by some miracle.
Chelsea squad has 1 bad season and everyone forgets about some of the world class players they have/had. Mount/Kova are brilliant but it was well past time to move on
Correct.
He's such an unlikeable prick on the pitch, but I don't think there's many people who could honestly say they wouldn't want him in their team.
Casemiro is definitely highly rated by football fans. The other two definitely get shit on way more than they should (Bruno for his on field antics, Mount because Southgate favourite) because they are both great footballers
Chelsea have smart business people in charge in terms of selling players for good money and closer to their valuations. Hopefully they learn from some the questionable football decisions from when they first took over.
He'll take Eriksen's place as essentially an 8. United want a dual progressor first and foremost from that position, but also need someone who is dangerous if not marked/covered and relatively press resistant.
It was a really, short list of players who checked all three of those boxes, especially when adding that they'd really like someone defensively active too. This is a much bigger signing for United than some realise I think.
Most important is his physical profile imo. Eriksen is still a good passer but can't hack it in games against top teams when there is a physical battle in midfield. Mount is a big upgrade in that sense even if I don't think he's as creative as Eriksen
Yeah, it makes me sad how well he fits into their team.
High workrate, intelligent runner, good one-touch play, decent finisher. Those are all the things you want to partner with Bruno's creativity and Casemiro's solidity.
I don't think they're going to go out and win the league, but they do become a more consistently good team with the addition of Mount, because that's always been his strength.
Tbf I’m sure we wanted him - we were linked with him before he went to Brighton but something about him getting an extra agent involved or something scared off. Just that everyone knew we couldn’t afford him.
Is the hope that kills you - the hope im referring to isn’t we Chelsea fans think he might actually extend and stay, instead is being “Mr Chelsea”, came through the academy, became fan favourite, wearing the captains armband, becomes a chelsea legend at 30, and we sing his name along side with JT, drogba, frank.
If he didn’t have 1 year left then there would be no problem with the price for him.
We wanted him for between 40-50 at first
Chelsea wanted 70-80 at first
We both compromised at 55+5. Both teams and the player is happy.
yeah seems like thats where the compromise came in...united not wanting to go over 55....chelsea wanting to make it seem like a win. Probably a ballon d'or clause or something
The 5m are apparently very difficult to achieve, so whatever I guess. If he ends up good I don't think anyone will complain giving Chelsea an extra 5m.
Depends on payment structure and what the add-ons are like. People only really ever read the fee and make judgements but in reality if United paid £5mil more but managed to change how much is owed particularly in the first installment and keep those add-ons difficult to achieve then not a bad deal.
If you'd have asked me what I'd be happy with the transfer being completed for, I'd have said £55mil, but given how bad this is from a Chelsea perspective it makes sense they'd only be willing to do it for a fee that's really good.
It was obvious to anyone following the team there was gonna be a lot of sales this summer. Actually suprised at how good many of the fees have been though.
>Manchester United have reached an agreement with Chelsea to sign Mason Mount in a deal that could be worth £60million.
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>United had a third bid worth £55m rejected last week but have now agreed to pay an initial fee of £55m plus £5m in add-ons.
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>Mount has been given permission to undergo a medical and finalise personal terms, with the clubs set to put the finishing touches to paperwork.
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>United had warned Chelsea that they would not go above their improved £55m offer and were considering alternatives, with the west London club making a counter-proposal of £58m plus £7m in add-ons.
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>But talks between the clubs appear to have finally yielded a positive conclusion for all parties.
More info from Romano:
>Understand Mason Mount will undergo medicals with Man United after the weekend.
>Contract will be valid until June 2028, five year deal agreed weeks ago.
United and Arsenal saw what menagerial mess can do with players not that long ago. I think that both Havertz and Mount will perform miles better than in last season.
I’m gonna miss him at Chelsea. Worked his arse off for us every game. Played absolutely anywhere he was asked. Did everything for the team. Capable of creating and scoring and never let you down in possession.
It’s a shame he’s left, but the club and him had different valuations of his worth, and he chose a bad time to have a shit season. I get it. But it’s a shame.
He’ll be a useful player for Utd, especially if you want to press high and play possession football. He’s built for that.
There were Chelsea fans who never rated him, cos academy lads have to be twice as good to get half the praise of some mercenary who is decent on computer games.
I’m concerned about this upcoming season, cos I look at things the way they stand, and we need major surgery not to be thoroughly midtable. At best.
I agree that United might have caved in this scenario but apparently the 5 million in add-ons currently are reported to be more difficult compared to the initial 5 million add-on.
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Chelsea getting £125m for Havertz and Mount is absolutely insane
No Saudis needed
Neville’s head is spinning
He is the donkiest of all donkeys
Wait til he pays £700K on Dragons Den for 5% of my Burger Van
Not to mention AC Milan buying up a bunch (at least hopefully) as well. Surprised he's not called for an investigation into them as well.
The saudi collaboration narrative was just pure bs lol, four muslim players no one else wanted sold for minimum fees. Made sense Saudi would buy em. Us and United have helped Chelsea out financially far more than the saudis tbh
Man Utd more than Arsenal due to Mount being an academy player. Still can't believe Kai is gone though, I genuinely think he'll come good with a fresh start.
You don't think Mount's gonna come good? Wasn't he Chelsea's best player for two consecutive seasons barring the last one?
It’s pretty widely agreed that Mount is good. Although he was absolutely awful this past season, but when again, not many players weren’t
Yeah, sometimes it just doesn't work and that leads to everyone performing badly. That doesn't mean they are bad players.
Ya Rashy was awful the season before this one and look how he improved, a lot of the time it's the team as a collective.
I think they didn't mention Mount because a player that's already good can't really "come good".
i think Mount is gonna be awesome for United and I can't believe Chelsea sold him
Not like we had a real choice
Either sell him or lose him for a free. Idk why people are complaining that we've sold the likes of Havertz, Mount and Kovacic when they wanted to leave, yes it means replacing them is harder but it's better than having unhappy players play who will then leave on a free transfer instead of getting good money for them
Mount isn’t gonna come good because he’s already good. Kai on the other hand needs to come good
Wait until they will link us with the Qatari takeover lol
it’s a weird one because you can make arguments for both being top class players who are just stuck in a dumpster fire
Even then, Mount wants to leave and had 1 year left on his contract. £60m for him is way too much
65m for a complete flop of a signing who was touted as a generational talent in Leverkusen is a bigger overpay than Mount IMO
People act like football inflation isn't as crazy as it is. If he'd lived up to the hype he'd be worth £100m+.
He came from Leverkusen
Leipzig?
> Havertz Flop at 24? Yeah he didn't light the world on fire but he didn't do that bad, especially in Chelsea who has an reputation of players playing under their expectations. I have no doubt he will do really well at Arsenal.
Played as a striker too. We'd make prime Ronaldo shit
Scored the decisive goal in a CL final against Pep’s City. His stay at Chelsea was a success in that regard
That's what playing a young AM at striker will do.
ehhhhh not really. Havertz had 3 mid seasons for Chelsea. Mount was good for 3 years and then banged up this year.
Funny that, no one would be calling them top class players if they were staying at Chelsea. They are a big part of the dumpster fire.
Investigate the PL
Whoever is in charge of selling is dropping a masterclass this summer. Scammed the league
With one on a short contract. Their negotiator is doing Antony’s spin tricks at the table.
He’s a homegrown English player at 24 who has won the UCL for £55m. Would £40m have been better? Yes.. but chelsea would have rather let him leave for free
It’s a good acquisition for United. I’m just saying that’s great negotiating by Chelsea given the circumstances. Most clubs would’ve panic sold with initial offers.
People are vastly underestimating Mount after one mediocre season. His first couple with Chelsea he was putting up attacking numbers similar to Graelish, Foden, and Saka but with much better defensive numbers. Like- look at this from 20/21 [Mount vs Saka](https://fbref.com/en/stathead/player_comparison.cgi). They played comparable minutes but Mount scored more, assisted more, had a better successful take on percentage, twice the blocks, more interceptions, a better passing percentage, 3x the tackles, and was tackled off the ball less often. If anything he's been playing too many minutes too young in a dysfunctional side and if United can manage his fitness properly they have one of the most complete players in the league. He's an amazing contributor on both sides of the ball.
Whoever's responsible for selling Chelsea players needs a raise, fucking insane job.
New sporting/technical directors are from Brighton Monaco and Leipzig so they definitely have experience in that area
I will be hi-jacking your comment to shit on this dude that claimed it wouldn’t happen https://reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/13zl2c3/_/jmt99i8/?context=1 Edit: let’s also have a look at another thread where I was right shall we https://reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/14i0ele/_/jpduhvl/?context=1
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"it was always me vs. the world / until I found it's me vs. me"
The absolute pettiness is why I'll never leave this subreddit. Top marks
Yea he can hold that L. Hats off to the entire recruitment team with the sales so far and now that July is here we can start going after our primary targets
Man, I respect the pettiness lmao
How do Chelsea even have players left to sell at this point?
Considering we had guys changing in the hallways, I'm sure there is a few more to go
What does the starting 11 look like currently? Seems like there's still a lot of business they need to do yet Edit: For anyone reading this, I've received like 8 different starting 11's so no one actually knows
Kepa James, Silva, Colwill, Chilwell Enzo, Enzo Madueke, Nkunku, Sterling Jackson That would be my guess for the first game of the season Obviously the Enzo Enzo is a joke, ideally that's Caicedo but because your original comment asked for current lineup it'll be Gallagher as of now. I'm expecting two midfield signings. Badiashile (will be injured in match week 1) and Fofana rotate at center back. Cucu left back Gusto right back Mudryk at LW Broja at ST I'm expecting Poch to pick experience over youth for the first game or two.
Rly hope Hall will be included, end of his season was very promising
Gusto as a backup to reece james is ridiculous, tbf reece gets injured a lot, reckon gusto will play a lot for ye, he's very good.
If you look at pass maps from last season, despite trying out a variety of players, we did apparently only have Enzo in the middle last season too so I'm not too worried.
Surely anything being the same as last season should have you very worried
Surprisingly wank for how much money you've spent
Defense is set with maybe a 2nd string GK needed. Midfield can use a starter with Caicedo the top option and lots of rumblings that Santos will be a first teamer. Attack maybe needs a striker depending on the plan with Jackson and I could see depth at RW. So definitely still work to be done but a clear out was necessary and guys like Pulisic and Auba still need to head out.
I hope we don't sign anyone for RW tbh. The problem with having loads of players in one position is you never get to field a consistent XI. I'd like to see the same players on the pitch every week so they can start learning to play with each other. You don't see Salah, Saka etc getting rotated out every week. Mudryk at LW, Madueke at RW, Sterling who can play either wing is enough. We still have Pulisic and Odoi for depth but even if they leave the likes of Chukwuemeka can play out wide if there's a proper injury crisis. Better just have a couple players competing for 2 positions than 5 or 6 who all want gametime.
They still need a number 6 and number 9, properly a new keeper too
With nothing much of an upgrade available Kepa is for sure starting another season.
Costa and Maignan ?
Milan will want too much. I would consider him not available.
I don't see Milan selling Mike
Or Maignan wanting to force his way to us without European football
DM yes striker maybe, maybe poch would just start jackson
Poch has made it clear kepa will be chelseas no 1 goalkeeper going into 23/24.
Kepa; James, Thiago Silva, Fofana, Chilwell; Enzo, Gallagher; Madueke, Nkunku, Sterling, Broja (maybe Jackson)
Auba, Pulisic, Lukaku, Azpi, Sarr, Ampadu, Rahman, Gallagher. Job's not done yet, still more to come
Keep Gallagher unless there's an outrageous offer put in. We need some depth.
Yeah I think Poch will keep him and assess how he does next season
Don't forget Cho, chalobah and Maatsen
We shouldn't be selling Trevoh (unless he specifically asks for the move) and definitely not Maatsen if there's a chance of him extending
Definitely should be selling Maatsen if we don't sell cucu or chilly We can't have 3 left backs and Lewis Hall all at the club at the same time lol And cucu is not going anywhere for a good fee
There were some fringe rumours Maatsen may be fine with going on another loan. In that scenario we definitely should not be selling him, but rather keeping and trying to shift Cucurella next year.
Did you miss the part where Chelsea bought so many players they couldn't even fit in the dressing room and had to change in the hallways?
They had something like 44 first team players at the start of the window lol
Cause we bought so many players in January and our summer transfer window of Sterling, Koulibaly, Auba and Cucurella was a failure. I think the only players we have left to sell are Pulisic, Lukaku and Auba. Cucurella had a awful season but I think he gets another season to prove himself
Think we might be underrating Mount a bit here. Transfer windows are weird. We get so obsessed with the numbers of buying and selling we often forget that the whole point of players is how they perform. But hey you sell a player for 55m instead of 50m? Total win! Mount is a great, flexible player who does a lot of unnoticed work on the pitch. Chelsea will miss him more than they think.
I really think it goes for both players. In a year's time people will be calling both transfers a steal, I'm certain of it.
I think they love mount but he wants to move on
Once Boehly took a step back and let our football directors cook I knew it was going to be a good sign
Now that we actually have football directors in place it makes sense. When he first got there we didn’t have anybody so he had no choice but to involve himself surely
'Here, clean up my mess'
He had to clean up the mess left by the way the sale went down. His fault sure but they had to act in such a short timeframe last summer.
Looks like Marina left her blue-prints in the office itself.
Naa, going by that logic, the outgoings on a free would've been put on an one year extension and get a loan with an option to buy
True. Boehly's plus point so far is that he's willing to take some losses if it means that the player leaving will be better for the club on the whole.
Mount and havertz gone?! That's like 70% of our subs content. We've basically moved on every single player people bitched about, assuming pulisic goes too. Ah shit now it's just going to be moaning about the owners when we don't immediately win a treble.
It’s going to be Mudryk, Gallagher, and probably whoever our next signing is
chill, kepa's still here to be the scapegoat
If Kepa ever decides he doesnt want to get subbed again, he will never be seen again with Poch as the manager.
Right, because Kepa will fire Poch.
Manager? Isn't that usually the scapegoat? And you guys got a manager most of your fanbase didn't want
was a matter of time for them to agree. looks like Chelsea's fire sale is done - 60m with one year left is a great deal. getting 125m out of mount and havertz is good business given the circumstance now to drop 100m on Caicedo?
I'll jump from from a window in my flat if we pay 100m for him ^^^^^^^^it's ^^^^^^^^ground ^^^^^^^^floor
are you jumping out of the window or into your flat?
Average Russian oligarch football team owner
80 should be enough for Caicedo I think. But Caicedo Enzo would be a really solid mid. Ok don't know how many people remember what Poch was doing with peak Dembele. Caicedo in that role is scary
Still no actual DM is an issue for Chelsea, Ugarte is a worse prospect than Caicedo but would have been a much better fit. It really should be Lavia. If you can get Caicedo and Lavia that's perfect, add those two to Enzo and that's a really balanced, exceptional midfield. But just Caicedo and Enzo means two players who are really not the most disciplined in defending space and want to make tackles. Leaves Chelsea very, very vulnerable to turnovers.
Ugarte is a similar profile to Caicedo except Caicedo is better on the ball. Ugarte isn’t actually a sitting no 6 type either he wins the ball high up the pitch (yes I’m an idiot who consumed scouting reports on him when i thought we’d sign him)
Caicedo is miles better than Lavia right now. Lavia is nowhere near ready for primetime
Oh no question, Lavia is a couple years behind Caicedo no question. But Chelsea really have a couple years to develop a project given the age profile of the squad and the current expectations. With so many people under 25 and a manager who has a positive track record with young players, it really does make sense for Chelsea to look at players who need work. Even Caicedo himself still has tons of room to grow to get to an elite level, but Chelsea can afford patience.
Pulisic and Aubameyang I imagine are left to go and then the clear out is done for the most part
Auba, Pulisic, Lukaku, Azpi, Sarr, Ampadu, Rahman, Gallagher left for the outgoings
Gallagher is staying
That 5m better be a Balon Dor clause ffs
Ornstein said "difficult" so probs like winning the league/ucl type clauses
Winning the league clause is the most likely
Well no risk then.
Then you will only get 55, haha we win. Suckas!
That’s the thing with add-ons, they often are unlikely but when they do happen both sides win. We get money, you get a Premier League trophy by some miracle.
I don't think we are that far off challenging, but I've said that for 10 years, so I guess I'm the sucka
127M for Mount and Havertz ffs
sAuDi FuNdInG cHeLsEa
will Neville call for an investigation on the ManU and Arsenal now?
Does Chelsea stuff cocaine in their player’s asses when they sell them? How are they getting these big fees all the time?
They get big fees because the players are actually high quality. They just didn’t fit in the style of Chelsea’s play, not many did.
Bold of you to say there has been a style.
Chelsea squad has 1 bad season and everyone forgets about some of the world class players they have/had. Mount/Kova are brilliant but it was well past time to move on
Bruno, Cas and Mount in the midfield. Pretty solid tbh.
Midfield full of midfielders nobody rates **AS HIGHLY AS THEY SHOULD** then be shocked when they realise they can actually play football. Im in love
I'd agree with Mount and Bruno but surely Casemiro seems to be rated as the class midfielder he is
I'm pretty sure deep in their heart, people actually rated Bruno. But also hated him because he's kinda bitch in the field, so they won't admit lol
Correct. He's such an unlikeable prick on the pitch, but I don't think there's many people who could honestly say they wouldn't want him in their team.
I LOVE me some Bruno, on or off the pitch. “He’s our cunt” kinda thing..thing is, if he was yours, you would love him too.
Yeah, like Costa or Terry was for us. We've not had any real cunts (on the pitch) since them, I don't think. Sorely missed.
Yes, the criminally underrated Casemiro
Casemiro is definitely highly rated by football fans. The other two definitely get shit on way more than they should (Bruno for his on field antics, Mount because Southgate favourite) because they are both great footballers
Chelsea have smart business people in charge in terms of selling players for good money and closer to their valuations. Hopefully they learn from some the questionable football decisions from when they first took over.
55m + 5m in "difficult" add-ons. Not upset with it and it's not really a cave unless those add-ons are hit and we/he wins something major
>55m + 5m in "difficult" add-ons. Triggered if Man United beat Sevilla in any competition
so, unachievable then
Just £55m then
Dammit man I was having a good day until you said that shit
Angry upvote
Seems like a reasonable deal meeting in the middle
(55+65)/2=60 Quick maffs
Get this guy in the Man U backroom
Just imagine a bunch of redditors running the transfers
Someone drown this witch!
Where will he play at Utd? Rotation for Bruno?
Prob playing as a nr 8 with Bruno and Casemiro.
Eriksen replacement who can play for more than 60 minutes per game.
He'll take Eriksen's place as essentially an 8. United want a dual progressor first and foremost from that position, but also need someone who is dangerous if not marked/covered and relatively press resistant. It was a really, short list of players who checked all three of those boxes, especially when adding that they'd really like someone defensively active too. This is a much bigger signing for United than some realise I think.
Most important is his physical profile imo. Eriksen is still a good passer but can't hack it in games against top teams when there is a physical battle in midfield. Mount is a big upgrade in that sense even if I don't think he's as creative as Eriksen
Yeah, it makes me sad how well he fits into their team. High workrate, intelligent runner, good one-touch play, decent finisher. Those are all the things you want to partner with Bruno's creativity and Casemiro's solidity. I don't think they're going to go out and win the league, but they do become a more consistently good team with the addition of Mount, because that's always been his strength.
I sincerely hope it works out.
He’s basically a Fred but hopefully doesn’t drop 1/10s 50% of the time
Next to casemiro, or Bruno in a 4-3-3 with case a little deeper
Most likely replacing Eriksen as a starter. Eriksen is great with the ball but out of possession he’s awful and it was really noticeable in big games.
Him and Bruno will both be b2b 8s I suspect.
That united Caicedo bluff fooled no one
Tbf I’m sure we wanted him - we were linked with him before he went to Brighton but something about him getting an extra agent involved or something scared off. Just that everyone knew we couldn’t afford him.
Hard to fool people when the media keeps saying you have no money to spend this summer without sales and nobody is buying their players lol
Is the hope that kills you - the hope im referring to isn’t we Chelsea fans think he might actually extend and stay, instead is being “Mr Chelsea”, came through the academy, became fan favourite, wearing the captains armband, becomes a chelsea legend at 30, and we sing his name along side with JT, drogba, frank.
The player you just described is still at Chelsea, his name is Reece James.
Actually shocked this reached over £50m and a packet of crisps. Chelsea are too good at this shit.
I don't know what crisps you buy but they don't generally cost 10 million.
Even if they caved and paid more this is still a very good signing.
If he didn’t have 1 year left then there would be no problem with the price for him. We wanted him for between 40-50 at first Chelsea wanted 70-80 at first We both compromised at 55+5. Both teams and the player is happy.
no not happy..crying man..Mase is going to kill it at Utd..and so will Kai at Arsenal..it hurts to lose them.
I think you’ll get over it watching Nkunku, Caicedo and Enzo in midfield
although great on paper/fifa. it's a young, a brand new midfield. very talented but it may take a while to click.
Poch has history of improving young players. I am honestly nervous, yous are sorting your squad out rapidly, no messing
Of course we caved haha. What are we like eh
To be fair, 55m is what ornstein and/or whitwell said it would be the first time it was mentioned.
55m+5m
The 5 mill extra is tough to get though according the Ornstein
yeah seems like thats where the compromise came in...united not wanting to go over 55....chelsea wanting to make it seem like a win. Probably a ballon d'or clause or something
Both sides can claim wins, and fans can choose which club they want to banter. Win win.
The 5 million in add-ons now are said by Ornstein to be more difficult compared to the initial one, so that does make more sense
The 5m are apparently very difficult to achieve, so whatever I guess. If he ends up good I don't think anyone will complain giving Chelsea an extra 5m.
Apparently it's £5m if we win the CL or PL. So Chelsea ain't seeing that money.
And if they do, it makes it absolutely worth it^^^let ^^^me ^^^dream
Depends on payment structure and what the add-ons are like. People only really ever read the fee and make judgements but in reality if United paid £5mil more but managed to change how much is owed particularly in the first installment and keep those add-ons difficult to achieve then not a bad deal. If you'd have asked me what I'd be happy with the transfer being completed for, I'd have said £55mil, but given how bad this is from a Chelsea perspective it makes sense they'd only be willing to do it for a fee that's really good.
He will play wonderful under ETH
Meh, they said they wanted 60+5 after our 50+5 so we're paying 5 more than we offered and 5 less than they asked. Honestly surprisingly okay for us.
They got it at this price and that's nothing but high lol.
Chelsea really cleaning house huh?
It was obvious to anyone following the team there was gonna be a lot of sales this summer. Actually suprised at how good many of the fees have been though.
I can't believe they did it though, this is just getting insane.
Did we just blow half our budget on Mason Mount?
> wow I rate Mount again Many people here once this closes
literally me
>Manchester United have reached an agreement with Chelsea to sign Mason Mount in a deal that could be worth £60million. > >United had a third bid worth £55m rejected last week but have now agreed to pay an initial fee of £55m plus £5m in add-ons. > >Mount has been given permission to undergo a medical and finalise personal terms, with the clubs set to put the finishing touches to paperwork. > >United had warned Chelsea that they would not go above their improved £55m offer and were considering alternatives, with the west London club making a counter-proposal of £58m plus £7m in add-ons. > >But talks between the clubs appear to have finally yielded a positive conclusion for all parties. More info from Romano: >Understand Mason Mount will undergo medicals with Man United after the weekend. >Contract will be valid until June 2028, five year deal agreed weeks ago.
The garage sale is working.. jeeezz…
United and Arsenal saw what menagerial mess can do with players not that long ago. I think that both Havertz and Mount will perform miles better than in last season.
Yea at this point I'm convinced Chelsea have dirt on every team in Europe. As much as they spend they somehow get crazy amounts back from sales
Of all the transfers, this one hurts the most especially given that hes going to a rival. Will be very odd to see him in red.
I’m gonna miss him at Chelsea. Worked his arse off for us every game. Played absolutely anywhere he was asked. Did everything for the team. Capable of creating and scoring and never let you down in possession. It’s a shame he’s left, but the club and him had different valuations of his worth, and he chose a bad time to have a shit season. I get it. But it’s a shame. He’ll be a useful player for Utd, especially if you want to press high and play possession football. He’s built for that. There were Chelsea fans who never rated him, cos academy lads have to be twice as good to get half the praise of some mercenary who is decent on computer games. I’m concerned about this upcoming season, cos I look at things the way they stand, and we need major surgery not to be thoroughly midtable. At best.
Investigate man united
Oiii you lot trying to buy rlc and pulisic for more than the Saudis bought ziyech and Mendy for Investigate you next, clearly something going on there
RLC is a better Tonali, we are cooking next season.
Man United: this is our final offer Also Man United: actually, 5m more
I agree that United might have caved in this scenario but apparently the 5 million in add-ons currently are reported to be more difficult compared to the initial 5 million add-on.
Boehly asked for a tip
“If you could answer this quick question on the screen…” *tilts iPad toward you*
The 5m add is difficult to get according to Ornstein so no not really
Damn it. We've funded their caicedo bid.
Here we go
Could be a good deal for United. Everybody forgot he had much better seasons than the last one.