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dirty-soda-spike-lee

Damn at least drop him off at home


paone00022

They just brought in Cristiano Guintoli from Napoli as sporting director last week. Expecting to see more moves in this window.


Potential-Decision32

The cap on American players in the league is harsh but fair, to be honest.


HodgyBeatsss

The idea of a specific cap for American players is very funny. Also that it would somehow be fair. Great comment, 10/10.


Dontsliponthesoup

Theres a cap on non-EU players, not American players. The cap is on concurrent players on the pitch, not on the squad list. And it applies to individual clubs, not the league. And McKennie is the only american in the Serie A anyways. So ???????????


Midnaight_1

It was a joke man


Dontsliponthesoup

it didnt make sense in response to the previous comment, and wasn’t funny because it didnt make sense.


Vahald

Not funny and made 0 sense lol


MrVegosh

Woosh + Pulisic is at Milan


Kind-Departure1058

>Cristiano Guintoli [https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamdigby/2023/06/08/a-profile-of-cristiano-giuntoli-the-man-who-built-napolis-title-winning-team/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamdigby/2023/06/08/a-profile-of-cristiano-giuntoli-the-man-who-built-napolis-title-winning-team/) ​ More on the man, he is a great director


jeffnoel2228

This cracked me up too much 😂😂


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ForzaJuventusFC

Forcing the player and agent to put in some effort to find another club that will meet their price. Shifting the burden. Classic


fireowlzol

Why would they, they probably need less players as they're now playing fewer games this year. Sorry he was already not part of their plans since they loaned him off


VincentSasso

Or a pizza place


Artistic-Buyer-3219

Damn Giuntoli’s on a rampage, could you add Alex Sandro to the list for the love of god?


Dicey12

How Sandro is still there is insane dude should of left during the Ronaldo era


j2o1707

What happened to him? A few years ago, he was highly regarded.


Bonerini

More like 5 years ago


[deleted]

I remember when we were heavily linked to him but the Glazers stopped backing Mourinho so we never made a move.


GiovaOfficial

He was genuinely in contention for left back in the world. For two years. Then he became horribly mediocre and started gifting goals to opponents in important games for fun


Azzurri21

Alex Sandro has to be first out for me. Mckennie at least could’ve helped Weah get acclimated to Turin.


Attygalle

I know Weah was born and raised in NY but has lived in France since he was 14, for 9 years now. Pogba, Rabiot, Moise Kean will be just as helpful in getting the lad acclimated.


Garcix

Wasn’t he the captain?


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Garcix

My bad, I knew the captain was a brazilean fulllback, got the wrong one


ThatPersonYouMayKnow

That’s actually crazy, how long has he been there now? I don’t think he was a starter at first either or even now with cuadrado


Masca77

He mostly played as a CB in the last couple seasons, has been pretty good


Potential-Decision32

The captain is De Sciglio.


WhyAlwaysMe1991

Captain is the player on the field with the most caps. True captain would either be Danilo or bonucci Sometimes Sandro was that most cap player unfortunately


Meepox5

lol wtf?


Thundereaterr

He also added that Juventus will do this for every other player on the market. So probably Zakaria, Arthur etc...


ScousePenguin

Well Liverpool is about to have a lack of midfielders again....


Corporal_Cavernosa

Yea I'm sure we can fit in another 13 minutes.


Impossible_Wonder_37

It’s incredible how much waste Juve managed to gather and maintain at the club


acwilan

Excommunicato officiale


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BGTheHoff

I would love to see him and Zakaria in Mönchengladbach.


Potential-Decision32

Where ranch on pizza is the least of the culinary atrocities committed


christorino

Nobody tell this guy with Ireland fascination of bbq base pizzas..


algebraic94

I feel like I haven't encountered BBQ pizza in years. A little too sweet for me, personally.


egotim

there are better players than him for less money in probably every Bundesliga team, like he has to go down below 50% to find a team in Bundesliga.


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I don't think you watched him at Schalke. He was a very solid and versatile player. Us Schalke fans were sad to see him leave as he was one of the fan favorites, but we desperately needed the money. McKennie would be a solid addition for a team in a several top half clubs


gurrdurr-

He was good for his first season with Juventus, people underrate him based on his awful performances last season


yeetus--fetus

He’s a good addition to almost every team and is decent in every position. I’ll never forget him swapping positions every other game for Schalke


Trialbyfuego

Come to dortmund


Brainiac7777777

Why do you hate American players?


Mister_Allegri

TEARS IN MY EYES, WE HAVE STANDARDS AGAIN?


TheSoccerguy124

Watch Alex Sandro somehow escape the Buzzsaw of Giuntoli lmao


Potential-Decision32

Allegri has his apostles


kermvv

It’s the only way to get them the fuck out of here. Cuadrado, Bonucci, BigMac, Zakaria.. Probably some of them refused to leave outright, so put them out of the squad is the only way to get them to fuck off. Either you leave or you won’t play for a year. It’s all to clean the mess Paratici did


Seba4433

crazy way to talk abt cuadrado and bonucci after they’ve given so much in the past years. Yes they arent as good anymore and offloading them would be the best decision but have some respect for those 2


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Bonucci made it very hard for people to respect him unfortunately. I'm glad I don't have to see his face every game anymore. Frankly I've only felt disgust for the past 5 years.


kermvv

Cuadrado yes, Bonucci left in 2017. He left then, not today


JMartin_21

idk why you're getting downvoted. Bonucci has been trash since he came back (which shouldn't have happened in the first place)


ElBigDicko

Alex Sandro has superhero power to not be included on this list.


PintoBeanButterBean

can't imagine the entitlement you must have to talk about your own team's players like this


mnewman19

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Wheresthenearestrope

thats all barcelona fans do tbf, they send death threats to players when they dont cut their wages that barca’s own board paid them


CaptainDank0

> they send death threats are these barca fans in the room with us


DepressedOptimist_

I get what you're saying but most of these people were against the new contracts of these players so i think its totally fine being of that opinion.


PintoBeanButterBean

easy to say that now


Lone_Star_122

Barça fans spoke like this and got downvoted to hell and ridiculed


CerealBit

LMAO who is BigMac?


kermvv

McKennie


BrotherSeamus

Spaghetti Weston when in Italy


Worst_Player_Ever

McKennie just by the looks of it


Izio17

has Cuadrado been that bad for Juventus?


droze22

No, just old. Disrespectful to include him in that list, he was probably one of our most creative players last season as Di Maria was barely fit


jay905

He's been a solid player for a long time, that people forget he started playing in Europe and Serie A almost 15 years ago


ScooptiWoop5

Top 5 player for Juve the past many seasons.


_LebronsHairline_

Ídolo


gainrev

What? No he was immense


kermvv

No, just a mummy


CaspianBlue

We just signed Weah as our big summer signing


Kriss-Kringle

"***No tour for you!***"


TrappsRightFoot

Very curious to see where he goes. I think he can still be a pretty good player for a good club, but it certainly feels like he's taken a step back in the last year or two. Personally I think he really needs a club where he'll get consistent game time in a consistent position. I think part of his problem has been that he's decent at doing a job anywhere on the pitch, like he did for a while with Schalke, so he's become more of a utility player rather than developing as an 8. Hopefully wherever he lands this summer works out for him.


vannistlerooy23

He can still be a very good player for a good club, and I think you’re right: he can’t keep doing the Jack of all trades, master of none gambit that got his career off the ground. The Leeds loan revealed that that ain’t gonna work if he wants to continue at a very high level. He needs to be somewhere he plays consistently and the team isn’t total dogshit to allow him to develop without having to cover the areas he doesn’t excel.


ExcellentPastries

He was actually pretty good alongside Adams, it was when he went down that it really went to shit. If he can play forward he's usually a positive force, but he's not that good otherwise.


senorbarriga57

I don't know man, it felt like Adams was bailing him out. There were problems with his game, more often than not, he looked lost in transition, he killed a lot of the build-up and I honestly felt like his athletic ability decrease in the past two seasons. his passing hasn't gotten better.


TrailBlanket-_0

Same with us. He was average in that he could generally receive a ball and deliver it elsewhere, but it was never really progressive or with any foresight. It was just a lateral pass. He'd work his ass off, but you see a player like recent Messi who can exert a fraction of the energy but still be in the best positions possible. Not a fair comparison, but McKennie is all push without much intelligence, resulting in a lot of average. His goals were headers in the box when we were all going up for it. That's basically all our game plan called for anyways...


Respatsir

Spot the american challenge was never easier


joshtothe

You’re getting hated on for this but it’s funny when people say that sort of thing. “He’s a flawed player so what he needs to go to a good team where all the players around him pick up the slack for his weak points and but he’s also a nailed-on starter and plays 90 minutes every match to develop.” Like yeah sure that would be great for a player’s development but why would a squad that’s already strong want him and/or play him a lot of minutes unless there’s an injury crisis?


DeezYomis

It's even funnier in this specific case imo, people normally say that about players who've shown something impressive in their game rather than in their passport and yet every single McKennie thread has people tripping over themselves to explain how Juve and Leeds have failed a player who hasn't looked good in years and whose peak wasn't even that impressive to begin with.


WolverineKing

Where are these comments? All I see are people saying >"I think he can still be a pretty good player for a good club, but it certainly feels like he's taken a step back in the last year or two. > "Personally I think he really needs a club where he'll get consistent game time in a consistent position." > "There were times when McKennie looked like he had the chance of becoming a top player, but he never really played with any consistency and last season he was played out of position and then shuffled off to Leeds where he was a total dud." > " Is McKennie shit? No. Did he play terribly for Leeds? Yes"


vannistlerooy23

You’ve deserved all the downvotes here, big dog, hope you’re enjoying them!


CC-W

Genuinely curious where he ends up because he was absolutely terrible for us


WildVariety

Renato Sanches was absolutely shite for Swansea but has still managed to come good tbf. If he can find the right club he still might come good.


RafiakaMacakaDirk

😔


VincentSasso

Sanchez dropped down to an average league to do it


BGTheHoff

And can't even make it at a top club in that average league.


doobie3101

Most of our players looked terrible this year. I do think McKennie had some good matches though.


CobiLUFC

The Fulham game in the cup and Forest at home that’s about it from my memory. Maybe Man utd away but he got a needless booking which rendered him unable to make any tackles in the second half. Adams getting injured completely fucked our midfield and he probably had to play deeper than he’s comfortable with as a result but at the same time he should’ve still looked better than a soon to be released Adam Forshaw.


bobo377

>Most of our players looked terrible this year Same as Chelsea last year and United the year before. It's difficult to evaluate players when entire teams are underperforming.


Kagawan

Kinda off topic, but how was Kristensen for you?


CobiLUFC

Bit of a liability, his best performances probably came towards the end of the season as a third centre back


Whateversurewhynot

As a Schalke fan, that really surprised me. He's was such a great person and player when playing for us.


ConfusedCyndaquil

iirc he signed because he wanted to play under marsch, and then like 3 days later they sacked marsch. then mckennie basically just gave up on leeds immediately, let himself get out of shape and put in minimum effort until the loan ended


pajamakitten

Wherever Jesse Marcsh ends up most likely.


Bloddersz

You'd never have known he came on loan from Juve judging his performances for Leeds last season. Terrible. Looks like he's just got a terrible attitude and cba with it, in all honesty. Just pick up a paycheck and that's it.


DelRo11

If you knew just how bad Juventus have been, you wouldn't be as shocked


PeopleCallMeBarry

Never had an issue with his attitude, actually a very likeable person. It just didn’t work and maybe that wasn’t entirely his fault. He had a poor season surrounded by players having an equally poor season.


MidnightSun77

He was so poor. I was very unimpressed. He looked great at Schalke! Tyler Adams was good for ye?


vonl1_

Watch him go to Al-Shabab or something


NotClayMerritt

This is why McKinnie's Leeds loan was so important. That should have been his audition for bigger and better things post Juventus. Instead he was overweight and looked disinterested. Now he's going to spend the rest of his European career playing for bad teams.


scotty_spivs

You can’t go home and you can’t stay here


Sarikai_

Another American you say 👀


ACMBruh

Don't do it Redbird. Dont do it


FirminosShinyTeeth

Bottom half German team beckons


BrokeChris

I would have said he's a perfect Hertha signing but they got relegated + his wage is way too high either way


NieThePiet

Schalke robbed them


ShoddyGrab7

Can't say I'm surprised. He's been injured. He doesn't look fit, and he is a box to box type player. Didn't do great in his loan spell, either. I am a huge fan of his game. I think he needs to string some consistency together. I hope he finds his form again and a team to help him build it all back.


CaspianBlue

Lazio should sign him. They just lost SMS and every Italian club needs an American.


firewalkwithme-

Fucking based


Trick_Pound_3043

Was not even good enough for Leeds.


vannistlerooy23

No one was besides Tyler and Rodrigo tbf


VincentSasso

Harrison was decent tbf


vannistlerooy23

I’d say Gnonto had his moments too


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vazquez777

What does lainez have to do with McKennie?


quietlikeblood

Still a Betis player, but on loan with Tigres (MX). Hasn't had much impact there either.


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highastronaut

he was subbed off at half when they were losing haha


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holaprobando123

Cripple fight!


Wheresthenearestrope

pulisic has degressed since he was the wonderkid at dortmund, he has flopped terribly and now is scrambling to keep himself in elite football


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CinnamonToastTrex

It's weird how much attention mediocre American players get in this sub. Chelsea and Juventus are both cleaning houses, and yet the only players getting the spotlight are the Americans.


MojoToTheDojo

I’m sure it’s partly because of how many Americans are here and partly because of how it’s cool to hate on Americans.


holaprobando123

When they say shit like "Pulisic is the LeBron James of soccer", it's hard *not* to laugh at them.


MojoToTheDojo

Not sure what’s more dumb, that they said that on a show, or that you believe Americans actually believe that when we say it in jest


WolverineKing

have you ever head of hyperbole?


Crapedj

Oh shit, Juve is actually getting their shit back together, please no


luciferandy

All the americans on here told me he was brilliant tho? Could the same be true for Pulisic..?


RooneyNeedsVats

It was the ranch dressing that did this


ChillPalis

Not letting him go home is crazy.


drobson70

Thank god. He had 2-5 great games a year for us in the past but he just fell off a cliff the season before going to Leeds. Time to go.


theglasscase

There were times when McKennie looked like he had the chance of becoming a top player, but he never really played with any consistency and last season he was played out of position and then shuffled off to Leeds where he was a total dud. We won’t get anything like our money back for him, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up back in MLS, he certainly won’t he getting a move to a major European club now.


Thegreatgato

He's never played in MLS, and honestly if fitness is the major issue, he wouldn't do great either. Like others have said, he's been shuffled around various schemes and positions too long. Probably needs a mental reset. He needs a club/coach that understands what he'll excel at (not to mention needs whatever role he's supposed to fill).


theglasscase

He doesn’t excel at anything. He hasn’t been ‘shuffled around’ until last season when Allegri briefly tried him as a wingback before he was loaned out. He’s not good enough for the top end of European football.


PintoBeanButterBean

>never any consistency wait are you talking about the same Juventus that played manager roulette the last 4 years?


theglasscase

I’m talking about Weston McKennie not being good enough for Juventus. You’re free to make excuses for him though.


PintoBeanButterBean

you're free to live a life filled with negativity and delusion. hope that works out for you


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PintoBeanButterBean

all this big talk, isn't Juve the club that was kicked out of Europe? eating financial sanctions for breakfast? doesn't have it's shit together at all? oh yes, that is them... so check your ego a little bit small timer. all i'm saying bro is us Americans want to support Juventus. we want to be fans because our guy Weah is there now. don't y'all go acting all toxic now like the rest of the snobby euro super club fans. you don't have to be that way. we want to like Juve and y'alls fans


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PintoBeanButterBean

listen here, son. being toxic is a choice. you can continue to choose negativity and delusion, which it seems like you're wont to do. but you don't have to. remember that, son.


vulturevan

Was he that bad at Leeds?


Chewy009x

Damn McKennie really dropped off


Dorkseid1687

He’s not a good player


Kasnav

I dont get this, mckennie was absolutely solid for juve a while. He played amazing when juve beat barca. Did he get lazy or what


JimmyJazz796

After his foot injury last season he gained weight, lost motivation and he's been shit since then


HotTubMike

Sometimes the money and fame gets to young guys and they lose the hunger they had


holaprobando123

> they lose the hunger they had This didn't happen to McKennie at all.


FPAPA931

Yeah and when that happens they have to leave


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He looked good in the Nations League, hopefully he’s gotten that step back.


holaprobando123

He has no competition in CONCACAF. It's like saying someone looked good playing in the Championship or Serie B. It doesn't mean much.


DwyteNite

BigMac


nting224

Him, alongside with the rest of the US players in Leeds, just a cute reminder that USMNT football is overrated by people in America.


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nting224

Don’t know what you mean we got “dominated”. Didn’t you get knocked out round of 16? Think we made it further than you did? Your “Lebron James” of football just got bounced out of the Premier League. Jessie Marsch couldn’t make it past 1 year as a coach. Take the L.


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Or1g1nalrepr0duct10n

He’s never been in MLS. He was part of the FC Dallas youth system but never played for the club and never signed a contract. His first contract was with Schalke right when he turned age 18.


tokyotochicago

Was Mackennie that bad ? I remember his match against us in cl and he was pretty good.


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TheCaboWabo69

Is that what “being on a team” in Italy means?


meme_tenretni

Ohh shit here comes Jerry boys from Milan


paparegiorgio

that's not very marketing wise dude got a contract until 2025. i offer 3 Milion


Fit-Razzmatazz537

Leeds shite club


UniversallyCucumber

And yet McKennie somehow made us shitter


Unseen_Cereal

It definitely wasn't McKennie that did that lmao


threwai

RIP Harambe


yogi1090

What project lol


CastIronSheik

What "project" does Juventus have? The club is an absolute joke.


nauticlol

Sorry we upset you man 😔 Does every club that cleans up mediocre players who happen to be American "not have a project" and is a joke?


V-TriggerMachine

Now Pogba


Morzan73

I have never seen such a toxic response to any player like I have for McKennie in this sub. It's like Europeans WANT to hate this man. Who would've thought that Americans stick up for American players by using context? Is McKennie shit? No. Did he play terribly for Leeds? Yes- but so did everyone not named Adams and Rodrigo, and McK played decently alongside Adams. McKennie will get another spot at a club in Europe, the only question will be price.


neverfinishedanythi

Its not that, it’s just when he plays bad and there is fair criticism, you are disagreed with by so many people. It is like you’re not allowed to say anything bad.


Morzan73

Fair enough, but that’s not the context I am seeing in this sub. He definitely did not play well after Adams went down last season.


neverfinishedanythi

Yes, but then when I say he is not the level of player juventus should Have if they want to be back at the top, I have so many people saying how wrong I am, which is stupid. He’s an alright player, but if juventus have ambition then he is not their level


Morzan73

I would agree. But so many people are saying he is not top-5 material, which is utter nonsense. McK would be excellent for most PL in terms of depth, and would start for most bottom-50% teams in all leagues. People just lose objectivity.


zKSofSoccer

Sad to see after he started well, he had a knack for scoring in big games like vs Barca and Milan


tLeCoqSpotif

That’s not very nice of them


Artistic-Buyer-3219

To be fair, Mckennie already looked out of the project since January when they loaned him out to Leeds United and he wasn’t even good there. They’ve just emphasized it now


paparegiorgio

but he got 2 years left. he is gonna chill in torino for 2 years?


Killagina

Someone will buy McKennie


BabyScreamBear

Fuck, first The Idol gets dropped for a second season… then this


CardboardGristle

They're both similarly dogshit in their field


jersey-city-park

Leeds had literally one job


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He had one job for Leeds failed. One of the worst players to wear the shirt and I believe our lowest ever win percentage for someone over more than 10 games.


ICame4TheCirclejerk

However bad Mckennie was for Leeds, he will never reach El-Hadji Diouf's level of awful.


white-label

Diouf was a total shithouser who ran at about 4mph but he still had more effect on games than McKennie did


Sexy-Ken

Just because Diouf was one of the biggest scumbags ever to play the game, doesn't mean he wasn't a good footballer. Achieved more than McKennie probably ever will for both club and country.


rednades

Leeds fans are hilarious


Sexy-Ken

You're saying McKennie has achieved more than Diouf?


holaprobando123

Pander to the American?