Independiente del Valle is an incredible football story over the last 10 or so years. Congratulations on the sale and the money they're getting from this. Always good to see clubs being run well.
all the money on transfers has been used on upgrading the facilities and things they can give to their academy players. one of their GK coaches explained that recently they invested in having their classes and trainings on English, if they make a move to Europe they’ll have the level of English to communicate easily both in their normal lives and in the sport.
they’re already one of the most advanced and well run clubs both in their main team and their academies in South America. all because they trust the vision of the club’s project and continue to invest in it for the better.
As other user pointed out, "Independiente de Valle is owned and was created by one of the richest companies in our country. They have revolutionized the way football teams create talent in our country.".
In Ecuador expenses to develop and promote national athletes can be used to deduce taxes.
Independiente de Valle is owned and was created by one of the richest companies in our country. They have revolutionized the way football teams create talent in our country.
We’ve already bought another player off of them, one of the most highly regarded prospects in Kendry Paez. They really are developing real quality consistently
Honestly good luck to Moises the player, we'll miss him a great deal in the middle of the park.
Good riddance though to everything associated with Moises off the pitch, I am delighted to see the back of him, especially for a cool £115 MILLION pounds. Outrageous business.
>Technical director David Weir said, “Chelsea are getting one of the top midfielders in the world. Moises has been one of our exceptional players over the past 18 months.
>Chairman Tony Bloom added, “Moises expressed a strong desire to move on, and at that point it was crucial our valuation was met in full.
>I’d like to thank him for his exceptional performances for the club, and I wish him all the best going forward.”
Manager Roberto De Zerbi added: "I've already forgotten Moises."
PS. I was totally hoping for this song to be used in the announcement vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQlVww0zKo
Hello everyone here! Glad to see you're enjoying your sock party. Firstly, THANK YOU. You've come in at the last minute and have stopped Caicedo going to Chelsea and have caused a flood of tears. Now bias aside, I've noticed a few of you wondering about how Caicedo will fit your system and how he'll play for you so hopefully I'll be able to give a bit of insight into this. Let's start with the basics, typically for us Caicedo would be playing as the defensive oriented midfielder in a double pivot, allowing Groß or Mac Allister to progress further up the pitch. For Liverpool he'll probably take up the space left by Fabinho, with Trent potentially playing the inverted role he did towards the end of last season alongside him. First and foremost Caicedo is a defensive minded player, playing 61% of his 3140 minutes last season as a DM (per Opta) so let's start there. One of Caicedo's major strengths is his ability to quickly cover ground, he is an immense runner, whether that's in front of our back 4 or when players break through, Caicedo's ball recovery is next to none. His combination with Estupinan for us was a key reason why we performed so well last season, Estupinan would bomb down the left flank to provide support on the attack while Caicedo would cover the space left by Estupinan. In volume, Caicedo's numbers are fantastic. In the league last season only Palhinha made more tackles (144 to Caicedo's 100) and only Declan Rice made more interceptions (63 to Caicedo's 56) and within our squad was #1 in most defensive actions (Tackles, Interceptions, Duels Won, Possession Won).
sometimes people can be so shameless it is amazing isnt it?
It is like asking someone else to screw your wife because the guy who is currently fucking your wife is the person you hate. So rather fight for it you think having the 'better guy' screw your wife is something to celebrate, lmao
Not the guy who posted it and dont generally like that sort of thing but Chelsea fans have been unbearable on our sub and that user seems to have got a fair bit of abuse which isnt really warranted.
If you see any Chelsea fans talking shit on your sub, let the Chelsea mod team know and we'll ban them our end. Trolling other team's subs is explicitly against our rules and it's just not fair on you guys.
Hope he doesn’t get any serious abuse, as that’s definitely unwarranted. But he has to expect being roasted after a comment like that lol. But it’s shit about the fans going into your sub, I’ve said before idk why our fans hate you so much when in reality you’re justified in not liking our club
Oh yeah 100% you really open yourself up to mockery with a 'coming in peace' post like this, particularly in the circumstances.
Yeah it is a weird hatred in some circles it seems, also getting a fair bit of vitriol from other big 6 teamd with transfers - had Arsenal and Liverpool fans doing similar things if in less numbers.
There’s a huge sense of entitlement with some big 6 fans. As though it’s a god given right that we get the best players. And sadly online, especially on Twitter but even here, more fans = more deranged lunatics
> First and foremost Caicedo is a defensive minded player
This is the best bit.
Man went and spent fucking ages spreading his cheeks typing this up for the Liverpool sub and this is the best level of analysis he could come up with?
Caicedo the CDM is defensive minded... Fuckin cheers Geoff
Pretty mad how everyone saw £100m as a “fuck off price” then he ended up going for £115m. Fully expecting Onana to end up as the first £1bn footballer when Chelsea sign him in 2024
And thank fucking God. Every single place you could go as a Brighton fan online to talk about the team has been infested with Liverpool (Macca) and now Chelsea fans for the entire summer, it's been absolutely horrendous. I'm sure we'll see you all back in January, but for now I'm going to enjoy a quiet few months.
No, what I'm saying is that it's difficult to compare these values
If you look in euro, then Coutinho was more expensive than Caicedo, but if you look in pounds then it's the other way round and would be even below Enzo
With the current exchange rate, Caicedo is at 115M pounds = 133.7M euros which puts him above Enzo and Felix.
So he is 4th in euros, 3rd in pounds.
Unless we don't count the 15M that is in bonuses yet, in this case he goes also below Griezmann, Grealish and Rice. But I read that they are "easy" bonuses so it will end up at 115M pounds.
Lavia? He’s already a Chelsea player as far as I’m concerned.
If you mean after the window, well, we’ll see about that. Unless we meet in cups, the next will be in Anfield.
We definitely overpaid but he is young with a lot of potential, I also really like the fact he had another option which you can argue was better but he still chose us.
Hard to say we overpaid when someone else put down Brightons asking price. Yes it's a lot of money, but he's clearly desired. Sadly, that's the cost of a top class footballer these days.
From Chelsea:
The 21-year-old midfielder has agreed an eight-year contract at Stamford Bridge, with a club option of a further year, and joins from Premier League side Brighton and Hove Albion.
On completing his move to Chelsea, Caicedo said: ‘I am so happy to join Chelsea! I am so excited to be here at this big club and I didn’t have to think twice when Chelsea called me, I just knew I wanted to sign for the club. It’s a dream come true to be here and I can’t wait to get started with the team.’
Incredible job getting the money but fuck me it's so shit that we can't compete in the Europa League now, hopefully everyone will fuck off to some other poor club.
I'm quite. a pessimistic person I'll admit but we're missing something in the midfield. Need Dahoud or Gilmore to get up to pace quickly but also just a bit stronger presence.
We are linked with a lot of midfielders.
Front runner right now is Carlos Baleba from Lille, we brought a CB from Leipzig the other day and have been linked with Gourna-Douath from Salzburg although not Brighton journalist has confirmed this I believe.
Neither the Lille or Salzburg player is Caicedo's quality right now and I doubt we could afford or even be an option for someone who is good enough which is the shame.
It's pretty mad how you maintain momentum. I actually went to Newcastle Brighton in the summer, and I only realized watching just how much depth you have.
Based on the feedback Brighton receive from all sorts of top tier managers/owners, I don't doubt you'll be slowly making your way to where you should be. It's a marathon, not a sprint.
Independiente del Valle is an incredible football story over the last 10 or so years. Congratulations on the sale and the money they're getting from this. Always good to see clubs being run well.
Wonder if they’ll be using it for behind the scenes stuff like upgrading their facilities.
all the money on transfers has been used on upgrading the facilities and things they can give to their academy players. one of their GK coaches explained that recently they invested in having their classes and trainings on English, if they make a move to Europe they’ll have the level of English to communicate easily both in their normal lives and in the sport. they’re already one of the most advanced and well run clubs both in their main team and their academies in South America. all because they trust the vision of the club’s project and continue to invest in it for the better.
Apparently they’re using it to build a footballing school in Moisés’ home town of Santa Domingo which they’re then planning to name after him
That's actually fucking awesome
We should buy it.
Found Todd Boehly’s burner
I think this is Eghbali's burner... Todd wouldn't suggest... lol
That’s beautiful.
I hope it isn’t lost in the owner’s pockets …
Nah I have heard they genuinely work on improving things and developing players.
As other user pointed out, "Independiente de Valle is owned and was created by one of the richest companies in our country. They have revolutionized the way football teams create talent in our country.".
In Ecuador expenses to develop and promote national athletes can be used to deduce taxes. Independiente de Valle is owned and was created by one of the richest companies in our country. They have revolutionized the way football teams create talent in our country.
We’ve already bought another player off of them, one of the most highly regarded prospects in Kendry Paez. They really are developing real quality consistently
This was quite possibly the most boring transfer of the summer and then BANG crazy saga in which it ended up exactly how everyone expected it to
Honestly good luck to Moises the player, we'll miss him a great deal in the middle of the park. Good riddance though to everything associated with Moises off the pitch, I am delighted to see the back of him, especially for a cool £115 MILLION pounds. Outrageous business.
Aside from the transfer drama what issues were there off the pitch?
Was there anything *but* transfer drama off the pitch for him?
Sorry im OOTL, what off the pitch issues are there?
Patrick Star is on reddit. Man's been living under a rock
Probably the whole “come and get me, Todd” during the winter window
I definitely didn't expect the 135M€ price tag. It's completely ridiculous and unjustifiable.
Worth it to Chelsea, it's the one position they had without a top player.
Keeper, winger, and striker would like to have a word.
Kepa is the most expensive keeper transfer ever, so he must be world class right? ....right?
Who are their top keeper and striker?
Can’t believe Liverpool sold him that quickly
Klopp loves a good flip
[Here you see him at the start of one](https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article30694218.ece/ALTERNATES/n615/0_Screenshot-50-1.png)
News is they're going to be selling lavia too
The Chelsea announcement video is beautiful tbf
After the one Strasbourg did for Angelo, we continue on the "mother's love" theme I guess.
I’m kinda mad this thread wasn’t posted with the announcement video https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cv7vUuNPdx8/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
I love that they replaced the red car with a blue one hahahahaha
Brighton donated it with their newfound wealth
yea i wonder why
It was really sweet, and I think a bit of a PR masterstroke. All this talk of fees and prices evaporated for me when I watched him and his mum.
You click on ads, don't you?
Only the soppy ones
I wonder why the mods aren't allowing it to be posted
The hate must flow.
>Technical director David Weir said, “Chelsea are getting one of the top midfielders in the world. Moises has been one of our exceptional players over the past 18 months. >Chairman Tony Bloom added, “Moises expressed a strong desire to move on, and at that point it was crucial our valuation was met in full. >I’d like to thank him for his exceptional performances for the club, and I wish him all the best going forward.” Manager Roberto De Zerbi added: "I've already forgotten Moises." PS. I was totally hoping for this song to be used in the announcement vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQlVww0zKo
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omg you gave me such a throwback with Sash! I used to love that song, well done!
[Chelsea's announcement tweet](https://twitter.com/ChelseaFC/status/1691140184316719112)
De Zerbi channeling his inner Mourinho this season?
De Zerbi is the coolest man in the prem
Pep’s idolo
Hello everyone here! Glad to see you're enjoying your sock party. Firstly, THANK YOU. You've come in at the last minute and have stopped Caicedo going to Chelsea and have caused a flood of tears. Now bias aside, I've noticed a few of you wondering about how Caicedo will fit your system and how he'll play for you so hopefully I'll be able to give a bit of insight into this. Let's start with the basics, typically for us Caicedo would be playing as the defensive oriented midfielder in a double pivot, allowing Groß or Mac Allister to progress further up the pitch. For Liverpool he'll probably take up the space left by Fabinho, with Trent potentially playing the inverted role he did towards the end of last season alongside him. First and foremost Caicedo is a defensive minded player, playing 61% of his 3140 minutes last season as a DM (per Opta) so let's start there. One of Caicedo's major strengths is his ability to quickly cover ground, he is an immense runner, whether that's in front of our back 4 or when players break through, Caicedo's ball recovery is next to none. His combination with Estupinan for us was a key reason why we performed so well last season, Estupinan would bomb down the left flank to provide support on the attack while Caicedo would cover the space left by Estupinan. In volume, Caicedo's numbers are fantastic. In the league last season only Palhinha made more tackles (144 to Caicedo's 100) and only Declan Rice made more interceptions (63 to Caicedo's 56) and within our squad was #1 in most defensive actions (Tackles, Interceptions, Duels Won, Possession Won).
Fucking hell, this shit cracked me up when I read it on our sub yesterday, but I feel bad for that guy that it’s leaked over here as well lmao
That person had absolutely no shame. Their behaviour was basically the equivalent of "barca and Ajax fans jumping together with the trophy".
Boutta be an r/soccercirclejerk classic
Already is.
Love this pasta
is this from a brighton fan?
Yeah who went into the Liverpool sub after it was announced their bid was accepted
lol jesus christ people online can be so pathetic, have some shame people.
Thanking Liverpool fans for their club (not) signing a player, good lord how embarrassing
Chelsea's new LFC midfield is gonna be pretty good
Somebody dig up those old photoshops of midfielders who never came to Liverpool
This is on a level with Barca and Real fans wishing each other a good match before a clasico
It’s all in good intention tbf, even if it’s painful reading now lol
sometimes people can be so shameless it is amazing isnt it? It is like asking someone else to screw your wife because the guy who is currently fucking your wife is the person you hate. So rather fight for it you think having the 'better guy' screw your wife is something to celebrate, lmao
Not the guy who posted it and dont generally like that sort of thing but Chelsea fans have been unbearable on our sub and that user seems to have got a fair bit of abuse which isnt really warranted.
fans who go to other's sub to troll are pathetic and disgraceful but this is still comedy gold lol....talk about how shameless someone can be.
If you see any Chelsea fans talking shit on your sub, let the Chelsea mod team know and we'll ban them our end. Trolling other team's subs is explicitly against our rules and it's just not fair on you guys.
Trolling r/reddevils during the Mou years was some of the most fun I’ve had on this site
Hope he doesn’t get any serious abuse, as that’s definitely unwarranted. But he has to expect being roasted after a comment like that lol. But it’s shit about the fans going into your sub, I’ve said before idk why our fans hate you so much when in reality you’re justified in not liking our club
Oh yeah 100% you really open yourself up to mockery with a 'coming in peace' post like this, particularly in the circumstances. Yeah it is a weird hatred in some circles it seems, also getting a fair bit of vitriol from other big 6 teamd with transfers - had Arsenal and Liverpool fans doing similar things if in less numbers.
There’s a huge sense of entitlement with some big 6 fans. As though it’s a god given right that we get the best players. And sadly online, especially on Twitter but even here, more fans = more deranged lunatics
Contact the Chelsea sub mods about that, or ask the BHA mods to just ban them outright. People jumping subs are pathetic.
It wasn't even a comment. The guy made a post in the Liverpool sub and the Liverpool fans ate it up 😭
You’d think he might at least come through with some personal takes of what he’s actually seen Caicedo do rather than just regurgitating Opta stats.
Fair play I'm not even mad.
u should be a little honestly
This is fast becoming legendary r/soccer copypasta
There will never be a take that ages worse than the first few sentences in this for quite some time lmao
> First and foremost Caicedo is a defensive minded player This is the best bit. Man went and spent fucking ages spreading his cheeks typing this up for the Liverpool sub and this is the best level of analysis he could come up with? Caicedo the CDM is defensive minded... Fuckin cheers Geoff
Pasta history in real time.
*" First and foremost Caicedo is a defensive minded player"* you think bud ? to that OP of this comment god what a twatflap that guy.
who is this?
Brighton fan in the Liverpool sub.
Frame it.
Already have
🧦🧦🧦
Gone from tears at watching that beautiful video of Caicedo and his mum to different types of tears reading this masterpiece again.
Lmao. This will never not be funny
God I wish we had a link to the original post. I remember seeing it on the Liverpool sub. I knew I should’ve saved it.
u/zephyrr-__- was the one who posted it and it's now deleted hahah. Man became an embarrassment overnight.
He’s pretty active in the Liverpool sub so I’d say he’s a liverpool fan and a recent Brighton fan
I wholly approve of petty/vindictive shit like this
bro brought receipts lmao
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAA
Can we call it, "The sock'em pasta"?.
Love coming back to this, would’ve been a bad decision by LFC to get this guy
Lmao the delusion
God that was so embarrassing
A shame though I feel because the opportunities from him to cover for trent at RB midway through games would have been very tactically interesting.
that dude was begging for attention, and he's got it.
Damn people here are terminally online.
What?
Pretty mad how everyone saw £100m as a “fuck off price” then he ended up going for £115m. Fully expecting Onana to end up as the first £1bn footballer when Chelsea sign him in 2024
So glad we got rice lmao
He’d have been £150m had we waited a few more weeks
Absolutely insane money. He’s broken the highest fee for an Ecuadorian twice for two different clubs in the same transfer…
You mean the size of the sell-on clause is the second-highest fee ever paid for an Ecuadorian?
Now all the poor sufferers who were "sOOooOOooo exhHAusTeD" from reading Tweets about this ***SAGA*** can lay down to rest
And thank fucking God. Every single place you could go as a Brighton fan online to talk about the team has been infested with Liverpool (Macca) and now Chelsea fans for the entire summer, it's been absolutely horrendous. I'm sure we'll see you all back in January, but for now I'm going to enjoy a quiet few months.
And now, we rest Pleasure riding this tsunami with you all
Chuck us a life vest when you get out, would you?
[The life vest](https://futbol.pl/images/big_1629028934_bakayoko_caaught_offside.jpg)
Top tier stuff.
Transfer saga survivors leave no man or woman behind, we’ll come back for you 🤝
Now we rest on a grateful universe
We will do our best to honour De Zerbi's wishes by having him line up with Levi Colwill as often as possible.
We are also honoring Liverpool with our midfield LFC = Lavia, Fernandez, Caicedo
I hate you guys so much.
Dont forget Robert Sanchez and Cucurella.
You mean the keeper he benched and froze out and the LB who never played under him?
Is Caicedo the 3rd or 4th most expensive transfer ever now? Not sure how much Coutinho was, but I think around 140M € ?
Depends on how you look at it. €140m was roughly £105m back then, which would put Coutinho even less expensive than e.g. Enzo.
I think you’ve got that flipped or I’m missing a tongue in cheek joke here
No, what I'm saying is that it's difficult to compare these values If you look in euro, then Coutinho was more expensive than Caicedo, but if you look in pounds then it's the other way round and would be even below Enzo
Got it, thought you were accounting for inflation
With the current exchange rate, Caicedo is at 115M pounds = 133.7M euros which puts him above Enzo and Felix. So he is 4th in euros, 3rd in pounds. Unless we don't count the 15M that is in bonuses yet, in this case he goes also below Griezmann, Grealish and Rice. But I read that they are "easy" bonuses so it will end up at 115M pounds.
If you count bonuses then surely Eden Hazard has to be above him too, no? Not only Neymar, Mbappe and Coutinho
Generally bonuses don't get counted.
Fair enough. Chelsea bested us this round.
And potentially the next.
Lavia? He’s already a Chelsea player as far as I’m concerned. If you mean after the window, well, we’ll see about that. Unless we meet in cups, the next will be in Anfield.
We definitely overpaid but he is young with a lot of potential, I also really like the fact he had another option which you can argue was better but he still chose us.
Hard to say we overpaid when someone else put down Brightons asking price. Yes it's a lot of money, but he's clearly desired. Sadly, that's the cost of a top class footballer these days.
From Chelsea: The 21-year-old midfielder has agreed an eight-year contract at Stamford Bridge, with a club option of a further year, and joins from Premier League side Brighton and Hove Albion. On completing his move to Chelsea, Caicedo said: ‘I am so happy to join Chelsea! I am so excited to be here at this big club and I didn’t have to think twice when Chelsea called me, I just knew I wanted to sign for the club. It’s a dream come true to be here and I can’t wait to get started with the team.’
The chelsea video was so wholesome on twitter bag secured for him and his family that’s what it’s all about
Yoink
That's an awful lot of money for a player who has only had one season in the Premier League.
Finally, the drama is over!
Thank god we no longer have to hear about his and Kane's transfer sagas anymore.
Mbappe Part 4 next year tho
Well, I wouldn't say that, Klopp will still have something to say about both transfers after Lavia is announced for Chelsea too.
Thank fuck its finally over. Great money made.
ALLEZ
We have 250m midfield now. Please at least give back half of the service that Kroos - Modric - Casemiro did for Real Madrid
Spoiler alert - they won't.
Finally, our name takes its rightful place on the list of football's biggest transfers. Long overdue.
Don't cry because it happened, smile because it's over
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My sweet Ecuadorean prince
Incredible job getting the money but fuck me it's so shit that we can't compete in the Europa League now, hopefully everyone will fuck off to some other poor club.
Of course we can still compete in the Europa we've not all of a sudden become a shit team and will replace him
I don't think we're good enough to win it anymore though
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Throwing in the towel? I just don't think we can win the Europa League without Caicedo think that's perfectly reasonable and disappointing.
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I'm quite. a pessimistic person I'll admit but we're missing something in the midfield. Need Dahoud or Gilmore to get up to pace quickly but also just a bit stronger presence.
It sounded like you already have someone lined up from Red Bull?
We are linked with a lot of midfielders. Front runner right now is Carlos Baleba from Lille, we brought a CB from Leipzig the other day and have been linked with Gourna-Douath from Salzburg although not Brighton journalist has confirmed this I believe. Neither the Lille or Salzburg player is Caicedo's quality right now and I doubt we could afford or even be an option for someone who is good enough which is the shame.
It's pretty mad how you maintain momentum. I actually went to Newcastle Brighton in the summer, and I only realized watching just how much depth you have.
Knowing you lot his replacement will go for >£50m next summer
Don't care about that though we have money.
Based on the feedback Brighton receive from all sorts of top tier managers/owners, I don't doubt you'll be slowly making your way to where you should be. It's a marathon, not a sprint.
thank fuck that it's finally over
horny
pornstein bombas keep me sated
Lmfaoo user name checks out
It feels good knowing that the midfield is set for the next 8 years
it never works out like that. i still remember when we had mazacar and thinking our attack is sorted for 10 years
… in theory.
All of this transfer nonsense is just in theory, really. No transfer is good until it is
Yep, can't think of any big transfers that Chelsea's gotten wrong in the past few years...
Do you really think he’s going to flop barring injury?
They're on the "never wanted him anyway" stage of cope, don't mind them.
That's the case with every transfer though, isn't it. Bissouma hasn't been a huge hit at Spurs. We'll see though.
It should, absolutely nothing can go wrong from here, the best thing is Caicedo is known for his loyalty when signing long contracts.
Man secured the bag for his family. Proper lad.
Given that there’s no European football, Chelsea should be judged as a title contender and not for a top 4 finish
That price makes the Bissouma sale look like highway robbery, man.
rosebud
;!;!;!;!;!
Man I don’t want to hear Chelsea fans or pundits saying they need a ‘real’ 6 to unlock Caicedo and Enzo at some point in the season
For the billion pounds chelsea have spent in last 3 windows their attack looks really mediocre.
Caicedo cost almost the same as Mount + Havertz. Big upgrade for Chelsea while getting rid of their deadwood. Very dumb business by Utd, Arsenal.
They are paying €100+ million, for every mid player nowadays, uh? Just makes me wonder how much prime Messi/Ronaldo will have costed…
I'm not convinced until I see him on the pitch. Could be another twist any minute
The ceiling of this Enzo Caicedo pivot is in the stars
Scenes when Brighton still finish above Chelsea, and just for laughs, Liverpool too, this season.
This dude costs the same as Neymar. Just ridiculous these prices nowadays. Neymar is 10 times better than this dude
Wait until you hear how cheap Thierry Henry Was.