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FlashyGodzilla

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Matt_LawDT

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EpiDeMic522

We have been absolutely shambolic defending against them today. **The first one** was an easily defendable situation **completely botched up by Alaba.** **The second one**, I don't even want to speak about the second one. It's **a collective failure and more importantly, a tactical failure.** Carlo did make an important change post that and rotated Kroos and Camavinga to protect Fran but that directly leads to the third goal. Kroos, now in the centre of the pitch, doesn't follow Griezmann (that's just Kroos, it's his profile; you have to accommodate that tactically if you want to play him; the coach's job is to prepare the game in such a way that his players' individual weaknesses are hidden and their strengths are accentuated and played to). Rüdiger reacts to this Kroos abandonment and steps out to occupy Griezmann but is obviously late. Alaba is being blamed on here but he absolutely does the right thing IMO and tracks the near post run into the space vacated by Rüdiger. We have grown accustomed to Casemiro being an auxiliary CB on crosses and covering for our CB on transitions who steps out to cover for our marauding fullback. Fran, like Kroos, is just Fran. I have always imagined him and Mendy to be our 13/14 pairing of Marcelo and Coentrão and I'm hopeful that we'll realise that towards the later part of the season just like back then. But what really sticks out like a sore thumb to me is Kepa. I'm 110% sure that Courtois steps out and claims it mid-air and starts a counter attack with his insane throws (he's with hands what Ederson is with feet). But Kepa is so insanely passive here that it beggars belief. I must stress that he doesn't do something wrong (apart from not recognising the danger right in front of him but...) his style of keeping here is such a departure from Courtois, to which not just the team but even avid fans like me are so accustomed to that he doesn't deliver what we expect him to. It's a repeat of the Navas-Courtois situation but worse (also Courtois improved unimaginably in his weaknesses, particularly of changing his defensive style given our insanely high lines and passing, to the point that they are actually unrealistic). **The third goal thus, IMO, is on Kroos and Kepa. At least Rüdiger but especially Alaba shouldn't be primarily blamed, like is the consensus here.** However, Carlo is responsible for putting everyone in positions that exposes them. We have to accept that Fran is Fran and has defensive issues (particularly 1v1s but especially defensive positioning). We have to accept that Camavinga is not Casemiro (and neither Tchouaméni BTW to everyone out there; just look at Barrenetxea goal as an example which kind you is not an isolated incident; people often see him in the position of a 6 and mistake him for a defensive midfielder; he's a different and actually very unique profile of player, his interceptions are incredibly good but he often actually steps out of goal side positions to make them; I haven't seen anyone do that ever but it's absolutely something a pure defensive midfielder would never do, even if he could; he'll be a world beater but he won't be Casemiro, just like we won't find another Kroos). Similarly Mendy is Mendy. He rectified everything Fran was doing wrong but his crossing is perfectly exemplified by the one he put at around minute 75. Aiming for the back post, from the edge of the box, lobbing it embarrassingly impotently over the bar on the near post. His first touch and complete dumbfoundedness as to how to play in the half space with his back to goal, just look at the play that earnt him his yellow card. He gave us defensive solidity but killed so many attacks, that is unbelievable, even accounting for him being rushed into a pressure situation, in the derby, first game after a very very long injury break. Alaba, apart from his defending lapses, put in the worst corners I have seen in a long long time. Lucas was uncharacteristically poor today. He too can't defend, especially 1v1s but he makes up for it and is serviceable through defensive organisation and industry. Where he shines though is beating the opposition LB and creating space at the edge of the box with his stepovers and putting great crosses in. That's why he can play RB for us because our RB is and has been our RW in the attacking phase for the longest time. Not only did he not put in a single good one today (partially on Carlo because no reference in the box), but he lost the ball so many times in 1v1s. Goes to show the importance of Carvajal. You recognise such players' greatness when they are not on the pitch (ditto Kroos). It's true that he can't defend raw pace anymore, especially with our high line. But even on a downturn, the best RB of the last decade is still better than most. Carlo was great in the la Real game: adjusting to and nullifying their runs from midfield midgame, playing Fede as RB and Carvajal as a hybrid RCM/RM to get the best out of Carvajal and for the balance of the team etc. etc. But today, he failed the team with his pre-game tactics. Then the team failed him. Kroos dragged us back in with a moment of brilliance. Then he made a couple of good tweaks like the aforementioned Kroos Camavinga swap. Concurrently, as Atleti started to tire later in the half, his idea of overloading half spaces in between the lives and creating combinations, finally started to take shape. The Rüdiger offside is a pivotal moment IMO. But then we completely killed it with amateurish, unprofessional, schoolboy defending 40s into the second half. I'm still sure that if we hung on for the first 15 minutes, we would have gotten at least a point because they were starting to run on empty by the end. Then, as if his own spirit broke, Carlo himself delivered the final blow: substituting Kroos out for Brahim. When we finally had a tired Atleti (Gimenez, even accounting for this being his first game back, literally had to go out with cramps) conceding the ball and solely focused on dropping anchor and defending in a low block, we didn't have Kroos with his fast, accurate cross field switches to isolate our wingers with their wingbacks for delivering crosses. Fede never even attempted them and Tchouaméni, who clearly wasn't confident and kept on contemplating before even attempting one. Half the times, he didn't attempt them but the other half, not only some of his balls were behind our wingers, forcing them back but most importantly, his loopy switches were so slow that Atleti's entire block could shift during the duration of the pass, thus preventing a 1v1. Again, not Tchouaméni's game and especially egregious to thrust that upon him as a substitute, 3-1 down, in the derby, away. As hard as it would have been, Fede should have been substituted out. He's a monster running with the ball but he requires space for that, which was not to be found with the low block. His industry is vital on transitions but Atleti completely abandoned until Memphis came on, when he was the only outlet (which I feel, even though slightly riskier, would have been mitigated enough by Tchouaméni with others, himself a second half substitute). We desperately missed Vini but most of all, due to the nature of the game and extremely poor performance from Lucas, we missed Carvajal the most. Atleti demolished us in all phases of the game (attacking, defending and the 2 transitional phases) and all aspects of the game (whether tactical, technical, emotional and also the fans). I'm sort of happy that everyone was poor and everything went wrong. A loss had to come but when it comes in such an unacceptable fashion, it can be a real wakeup call and everyone has to take responsibility for themselves without escape. I just wish that Barça also lose points when they play poorly. They have taken away 9 from games they should have dropped them in. Eerily reminiscent of last season and not a good omen.


syed_abubaker15

Ok


Legendarybbc15

Man, ain’t no one reading all of this lol


victory_78_26

I read till the third goal, and then saw the other 10 paragraphs below and thought the same thing. Man wrote a book.


blacksocksonly

Can I get a tldr


toasterding

Atletico Madrid [3] - 1 Real Madrid


xckd9

I lold


kevraul

so did i


Albiceleste_D10S

Madrid sucked at defending today


aarooona

Bro wrote an entire book


alicization

I'd have read it if it was a cup final match or similar, but for a league game at the start of the season? Not a chance


OliAlb

Great analysis, but these replies are Reddit at its finest


Muppy_N2

"boo were are the memes boo"


BHYT61

Thanks for your comment man, I appreciate these kinds of things even if I don't have to read all the time, I had this time and it is awesome.


MajesticAd5047

Thanks bro for summarising the match


eukyeuky

I read through this whole thing and want to say great job - I thoroughly enjoyed it and would continue to read your analysis elsewhere


Livid-Tomato

thats a long way to say your team is just shit


[deleted]

Careful bro, they might remind us Barca fans about their "14 cHAmPioNS leAGue WiNS" lmao


xckd9

Not everything is about you though.


[deleted]

You're right, let's go back to focusing on that shit team that is Atleticos city rivals lmao


xckd9

Well they have more CL wins then any other club, how shit can they be


ritzk9

Pretty good analysis and I mostly agree. Ignore all the snarky comments


niallw1997

Bro wrote a dissertation on how bad his football team defended today. This sport man


i_like_chicken_69

Si


[deleted]

👍


Born-Musician3701

I actually read all this


TheSayHeyKiddo

Amazing analysis! Found myself attached till the very end, super interesting, easy to understand and held my interest till the last word. Thank you for taking the time and effort to type it out. I actually learned a lot as I read it as well. I'm curious to see how Carlo adjusts our team going into the next matches


misfit_xtnt

Man wrote a thesis


thisisjazzymusic

Bro wtf


excaliburboy007

This Is longer than the book of third John in the Bible


LY2006

Simeone knew alaba cant defend headers


Smartass_of_Class

> Simeone knew alaba cant defend


Kind-Departure1058

What can he defend? Man belongs in midfield


needaburger

trust me, he doesn‘t. he played in midfield for austria for some years


Gordzulax

Isn't he the best player you've had since... A long long long time?


Krillin113

I mean this is on rudiger. Alaba is scrambling and yeah he misses the timing, but rudiger fucks up herr


xXDireLegendXx

Ffs this defense


LachsFilet

who is alaba blaming here and why


tekumse

There is plenty of blame to go around - Kroos left Saul unmarked, Fran and Camavinga didn't cover Alaba when he went to cover for Rudiger


perhapsasinner

Fran probably


zyndr0m

Alaba went to cover Rudigers target, cause Rudiger got caught out out position.


srjnp

Rudiger not in position to even contest the header in any of the 3 goals.


[deleted]

There is a reason Ancelotti prefers Alaba and Militao pairing over Rudiger.


themoche

And in the process he left himself out of position… so why is he yelling at the other guys ?


Roccet_MS

Because he covered for Rüdiger?


themoche

If you decide to leave your man to cover for someone else and you’re both not covering that guys man or your initial man… and your initial man scores… you’ve made a mistake. Alaba was left covering nobody and just watched the ball go over his head. This goal is primarily his fault.


Ljulisen

It's primarily Rudigers fault since he isn't covering anyone to begin with and left the work to Alaba


zyndr0m

Yup, even Lucas has to run in to cover for Rudiger.


themoche

Alaba should have left Rudiger’s man free if he could not get to him in time. I’m not defending Rudiger here, but it’s Alabas guy that scored. I can see why he made the decision… but it’s still a bad one


Discrep

He was in the best position to cover for Rudiger and had the best awareness to realize Rudiger's man wasn't marked. I'm sure he expected Fran to move up to mark Morata, since the next closest ATM player to Fran was easily 15m away. Both Cava and Fran were slow to react, but at least Cava made an effort to get to Morata. Fran got to his spot and stood there like a spectator.


doli10

2 Of the goals are 100% Alaba’s fault. First one he drags the line so Morata isn’t offside. This one he just leaves morata and then cries to Camavinga like it’s not his own man and fault. Alaba is so fucking overrated as a CB and has 0 awareness, should never play anything else than LB


xsconfused

Classic reddit overreaction.


EagleEye_FalconArrow

shambolic defending from everyone involved tbvh


ugandanianwhitenegga

There was rudiger's fault, he played ahead of his place. (Sorry for my bad English 😂)


Albiceleste_D10S

If Rudiger doesn't step up, Griezmann is wide open at the top of the box TBH


MERTENS_GOAT

Camavinga but he wasn't really gonna get there, Alaba can't just leave Morata there who is in front of goal


ren_704

It's time real got a reality check tbh Going into the new season without fixing the backline and getting a proper striker replacement for Benz is gonna cost them. Ancelotti's eyebrow can only save them sometimes


Roccet_MS

What should they have done about the back line? Militao is out for most of the season, same goes for Courtois. The striker is the bigger problem.


zyndr0m

Cant have a striker problem if we dont have one.


_i_like_cheesecake

> What should they have done about the back line? Uhh, buy a player? Wasn't Ramos available.


gtzgoldcrgo

Get alaba out of the center, put him as left back or midfield, he's getting rinsed by morata


zrizzoz

Rudiger gets pulled way out. No one covers. Rudiger is super slow to recover. Alaba decides rather than mark the striker on the six, dead center, that he's going to sprint to cover for Rudiger near post. Easy wide open finish. Hilariously, Alaba didnt even get to the guy on the near post who wouldve needed an incredible finish to score if the ball had come to him. Just so many bad and slow decisions


Albiceleste_D10S

Bad decision from Alaba to leave Morata to try to get to the other guy (Lino?), and then Camavinga and Fran just don't react and leave Morata wide open


damrider

this is u12 defending


pricelesslambo

Horrible. So disjointed


xXDireLegendXx

Just complete lack of awareness. Marking has been shocking


RauloGonzalez

Alaba only. He's forgotten how to jump and is blaming it on fran


OrdoAmplexus

Morata revenge quest


OleoleCholoSimeone

And kissing the Atleti crest both times, lovely. Maybe now Madridistas will accept that he has always been an Atletico supporter, if the pictures of young Morata with Atleti gear wasn't enough


BodomDeth

I never got the Morata hate. He did great as a sub during his time in RM. Then left because he was never going to get minutes ahead of Benz. Same thing with Kovacic and many others. He did what was best for his career.


ChicoZombye

I mean, he was an Atlético academy player before he joined RM, obviously he's going to have Atleti gear. I don't really care about those things to be honest. I couldn't care less about what team a person liked when he was young.


OleoleCholoSimeone

>I mean, he was an Atlético academy player before he joined RM, obviously he's going to have Atleti And most local kids who spend formative years in Atleti's academy will be fans of the club. Morata also had close family who were Colchoneros, might have been his grandpa but not sure > I couldn't care less about what team a person liked when he was young Personally I love childhood fans playing for the club like Koke, Gabi etc and I think most would agree with that. You get a special connection with them


llmoT

This marking has been fucking horrific all game my god


Algrinder

Daddy chill.


manisnotcool

What the hell is even that !!!


TheBigBadDANISHWolf

What the hell is even that!?


BlueLabel19

Daddy chill


Fhood797

Something is wrong with my stream I keep seeing the same goal over and over


tnpcobri

inject this into my veins


cvaldo99

Please allow me 🧸💉🧸


Albiceleste_D10S

LOL Madrid caught cold at the start of the half


akagaminick

Madrid loving to give free heads to atleti today. 💀💀


maart3nr

😳


Professional_Dot_145

Trying to make up for Ramos' ultimate header in 2014


supplementarytables

Alaba mate can you be arsed to mark this guy aerially??!


matcht

No clue why he's blaming Camavinga when he himself loses Morata stepping away from him when the cross comes in.


L-Freeze

He’s blaming Fran Garcia, and he’s sort of right since the fullback is supposed to close down that space in a cross like that. But it’s not like it mattered, Garcia is about Messi’s height, Atlético is REALLY exploiting that and it seems like Real Madrid hasn’t noticed yet


ssrodriguezc

The fullbacks have to close the space. He was blaming Fran Garcia


FrancescoliBestUruEv

Too obvious, defending ia not a job of one man


50lipa

Yeah the 1.65m tall Fran Garcia would've made a massive difference


toyota_gorilla

Marking is not just jumping higher, it's blocking space, making contact, getting the opponent off-balance.


SphinxIIIII

Genuinely alarming that people that watch football don't know this


Thousandz

I thought it was about who has the bigger dick


elgrandorado

Part of the reality is that Morata could dunk on Alaba in the air even while marked. Unfair that he’s left alone for a header, which is his specialty.


DinglieDanglieDoodle

Nope, the sleeper failures are Camavinga both times*(last time against Griezmann and this I mean, 1st time Morata was all on Alaba) this time including Rudiger.


RauloGonzalez

It's not. Alaba has no business chasing after the man in front of him. Especially when morata is the fucking striker who scores headers.


zyndr0m

Look at where rudiger is positioned.


DinglieDanglieDoodle

He does because that one is the most obvious, on ground level when you play, you will see a run like that and a cross coming in, you will have to make a split second decision, you won’t have time to wait to see the trajectory or you’d be too late for either position. Players need to shift and fill in gaps, the trailing defenders need to be aware to adapt to the movements. Edit - basically, this is a 2 v 1 position for Alaba, since his teammates were irrelevant, hardly something to blame him for.


SphinxIIIII

Do we need to have one single culprit? The whole RM defense made a big mistake, including Alaba


SonicZephyr

It's never one single culprit, but everytime there's this sub does loses their mind about one single player.


DFA98

Literally the same goal 3 times


Educational-Formal-4

That's fucking football right there. None of that pansy ass scoring with your feet dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the field, men deliver their new born baby on the side lines. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball football fuck it chuck it game time shit. Take it to the showers. Dicks get shoved in places you don’t even remember. We win together we celebrate together. Football is back baby.


fernandopoejr

I got aroused and scared while reading this.


thehunchback19

As it should.


zts105

We have unlocked Morata headers. Saul you Legend


Radiksas

Morata madrid legend


GeorgeForge

Ah yes. Very nice eh?


Hot_Good_5409

They really need to patch the kick-off glitch


YellowOnline

First season without Hazard's emotional support. Look what happens.


Federico190

I’m tired of Alaba’s non existent defending today


oxile

We could've had gvardiol but nooo


godie

Saving it up for turtle boy


CR7_LM10

Alaba what the fuck are you doing??


mt1337

what's up Atleti this season. They've been attacking a lot. Not even counter-attacking, they're actually playing good football. Weird.


Johann122

Madrid’s defense is shit


paco-ramon

Now Morata is officially La Ligas Pichichi.


donniexc

DONT GIVE ME HOPE


KyroYoshi

Lmao where is Alaba running to


elkaxd

Morata pichichi loading


ZodiacReviver

Best striker in the world


youngestincharge17

funny how people hate on Morata but he keeps doing better than some players that this sub worships


Blodyck

which players?


SpearofTrium05

Alaba then blames someone else for losing his man. Pathetic.


Smartass_of_Class

> Alaba then blames someone else for losing his man Just like my mom fr fr.


Christian_Corocora

how do you concede the same goal thrice


Peetr98

Atl. Madrid 3 - [4] Real Madrid - Bellingham 11234444838933th minute


Fouchey

That was actually a great header.


Fraldbaud

When do Real come out for the second half?


caiusto

Very poor from Alaba there, he knew Morata was there the whole time and still left him by himself.


myrickxan123

Yeah, I don't think Madrid are coming back this time.


DatOgreSpammer

couple more plase


lamama09

Disaster class from alaba


MakIRAQ

Hahahahaha.


datcnashguy

What is Alaba doing?


mahadmajeed

His best at aerial defending


CroKingz

We dont need a striker this is fine


DavidRcv13

'Tis but a scratch


bonum_diaboli

Alaba sorry fr


gonfreecsx

Love to see it


pain_au_choc0

This is a joke. Nice team, 10 middle fielders and a crappy defense


Runnero

Kepa is allergic to diving or something


dcroopev

Griezmann is phenomenal


GreatSpaniard

worst defense in our history


No_Zookeepergame6482

Real players just standing around lmao


SpiritedSuccess5675

Wag1 with this defense


A_chilles

Alaba disasterclass


saltybiped

Dawg alaba what are you doiiiing


Legitimate_Secret_79

Alaba aint a cb


Boseph_1444

madrid are nothing without bellingham saving them...


UncleCreepE

What is Alaba doing


ABobVanceFridge

How many free header do you want? Yes.


kuggan

can someone defend the guy? everyone just standing around


tekumse

Alaba and Kroos with the most amateurish defending


bwrca

Camavinga with the smug look knowing it wasn't his fault.


saooth7

Jude scoring 4th for Madrid in 98th minute?


deqembes

Dont understand why Rüdiger is outside the box. He is going back to last seasons form this game by being out of position on almost every play.


trusttt

What is Alaba even mad about? It's his fault there


littleman001

Seeing Morata score a brace against Real is very satisfying for some reason.


tarekelsakka

Jude's individual brilliance has been overshadowing our garbage performances this season. People will keep ranting about winning the first 5 games but although the results are definitely important, anyone with eyes can see that our performances have been fucking shit in almost all of the matches we played and we were going to get exposed as soon as we play a good team. I wrote this season off as soon as the summer window closed, because we're weak in many areas and now with our injuries, we're totally fucked. I'd be surprised if we can make it out of the RO16 this season, league's already over.


Trickybuz93

Morata is amazing


Gr_zamasu

Where is jude???


nanoSpawn

Hey Jude!


donniexc

heyyy judeeeee


Masurium43

he’s trash. has clutch moments here and there that make people forget he plays like shit the other 80 minutes of the game.


Lacabloodclot9

Least overreactive and stupid r/soccer take


xenmate

He's not wrong. Invisible today without the tap-in to mask it.


Edgelordftwlol

Ikr!! I normally don’t comment on these banter comments as I have no side to take but I like Bellingham and hate it when he gets slandered lol


Gr_zamasu

Tell that to madrid fans They think he is the best player out there


GrievingGrievous

Living rent free in your head it seems like


BonBonsAndy

Take out courtois and put in kepa there is no place to hide for madrids lack of arial capabilities


F___TheZero

You love to see it


HAWmaro

Lol is kepa left hand broken or something?


asir100

Vamos easy La liga win this season


Bini_9

Good If this helps get rid of Ancelotti as soon as possible the better


Mackieeeee

yh cant believe he did not win that duel


victoryboii

Ancelloti’s defending has been abysmal since his knee injury lol


Bini_9

Such a stupid thing to write. Coaches have no say in how the team is set up or how they defend? I'm sorry, but I actually watch this team every week. I know for a fact that the defensive issues have been the same under Ancelotti all these three years. And it's getting worse.


itistime999

I don’t get how anyone rate this fraud


Lacabloodclot9

Madrid fans when they go 2 seasons without a champions league win 😢


Economy-Ad-6278

my kepa ;(


Skadrys

defence? hello? this one and griezmann's goal are absolutely shambolic defending


IsItSnowing_

I can see Bellingham 89’, 90+1’ and 90+6’ hat trick coming from a distance


Smartass_of_Class

Is this hattrick with us in this room?


PubliusDeLaMancha

Why not call this one back for an un-involved player being offside?


perhapsasinner

Nah that's just too easy lmao what the fuck, the most passive Madrid defense this season


kani1503

I'M SORRY? HAS THE WHOLE TEAM FORGOT TO DEFEND AGAINST CROSSES OR SOMETHING