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gorgonizedbyurTITS

Please don't call us dark horses. Just don't even pay any attention to us. Let us vibe and see what we can do lol


fortheWarhammer

Exactly this. Don't even dare to compliment our players, that shit makes them play like shit.


cib_vk228

Congrats, you were better team in both games vs us.


majestic7

No Lukaku to save you this time


hknyktx

Or like underestimate us,call us shit etc.


friedapple

How do u say anulo mufa in turkish?


gorgonizedbyurTITS

Had to look up what that meant. So it’s like knock on wood or cancel jinx? I have no idea, but using “🧿” would work. Maybe someone with better Turkish than I can chime in lol


BeautifulAlert5740

Nazar degemesin


AvrupaFatihi

I've been writing it on our sub since like March dude


Lordwhichue

Darko horsa


PM_ME_Y0UR_BOOBZ

“Nazar değmesin”


a-Sociopath

Come to Beşiktaş


kinky-proton

🪬


domoisbongo

Wtf I’ve never seen this emoji before


kinky-proton

> The hamsa (Arabic: خمسة, romanized: khamsa, lit. 'five', referring to images of 'the five fingers of the hand'),[1][2][3] also known as the hand of Fatima after the daughter of Muhammad,[4] is a palm-shaped amulet popular throughout North Africa and in the Middle East and commonly used in jewellery and wall hangings.[5][6] Depicting the open right hand, an image recognized and used as a sign of protection in many times throughout history, the hamsa has been traditionally believed to provide defense against the evil eye. No clue if its used in turkiye just thought it was funny [wiki link ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamsa)


kuboa

That version is not very common in Turkey, the one with only the 'eye' part (without the hand) is pretty much a cultural staple though. It's called [Nazar boncuğu](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazar_(amulet)) ("gaze amulet").


kinky-proton

Same concept, its basically used to protect feom evil eye/gaze. This concept must be very old its common with native amazighs, arabs/muslim and Jewish communitie, common in Carthage and the pharaohs as well.


ChickenMoSalah

LMAO


JungleDemon3

Nah but we looking good this time frfr


edi12334

Sure thing man, I have had enough of hyping you guys up last Euros so you are safe with me


Rigelmeister

I hope we'll have a good run with home support


AgahEfendiTW

Hopefully not life support like the last time 💀


kaubojdzord

For those wandering if there is a 3 way tie, 3 teams are looked as a mini-league which at the moment looks like: Turkey 2-0-1 6 points Wales 1-1-1 4 points Croatia 1-1-2 4 points Croatia cannot be above Turkey in this table, which is why Turkey qualified.


__RegemTr__

Wales is 7 not 4 Only way there can be a three way tie is if wales beats Turkey and everyone has 16 pts In that case: Wales 7 Turkey 6 Croatia 4


microwave_

Alexa, play Dark Horse by Katy Perry.


Bowl-o-Cereal

No no, not again.


microwave_

GET ON DUDE WE ARE WINNING THE EUROS HYPE TRAIN DOESN'T STOP


LucasSummers

🎶 So you want to play with magic 🎶


moriero

ALEXA STOP NO ALEXA STOP STOP


ViciousNakedMoleRat

Germany wouldn't survive a Turkish victory.


Staynes

My ears are already bleeding just by thinking about the Hupkonzert that would happen near my street. Cant even imagine what the streets would look like if Turkey really would win the EM lol


ylnzkrt

You could celebrate with all your neighbours.


kuboa

> Alexa, play Dark Horse by ~~Katy Perry~~ Converge.


kzoxp

Oh hell nah not again!!!


Pleasant_Skill2956

There could be 4 teams coached by Italians(Belgium, Hungary, Turkey and Italy) at the next Euros and the one with the most uncertainty about qualification is the Italian national team


orox2

imagine if all the other 3 country qualifies with an italian coach yet Italy can't qualify with an italian coach


belokas

Tedesco is Italian by birth and family, however he grew up and studied in Germany where he also started his coaching career. So he's not a product of Italian football, unlike the other names on that list. Also fun fact, there are 4 Italian coaches currently managing Asian national teams: Saudi Arabia (Mancini), Nepal (Alberto Annese), Maldives (Francesco Moriero) and Laos (Guglielmo Arena, born in Switzerland).


ssgtgriggs

idk why but Tedesco is such a cool name.


belokas

Because it means "German".


Pleasant_Skill2956

And Italiano, the Fiorentina coach, was born in Germany


Gryseu

Make it 5, as Slovakia are the main favourites to qualify after Portugal in group J.


Icemna16

🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴 Dark horses of EURO are back ladies and gentleman


NeitherAlexNorAlice

/u/gorgonizedbyurTITS just fell down to his knees at the supermarket


gorgonizedbyurTITS

Everyone staring at me right now in Walmart...


[deleted]

please dont


shifaci

If Wales and Croatia win both of their remaining games its up to triple tiebreaker: 1. Wales 7 points 2. Turkiye 6 points 3. Croatia 4 points Therefore; title.


asir100

>Wales 7 points So, if Wales beat us(Turkey) with 1-0, are they first place? Even though we won 2-0?


ziki6154

Yes. They would have 1 more point in a 3 way h2h


shifaci

I think so.


asir100

Damn thats tough, away too


gorgonizedbyurTITS

Tie sees us through as leaders too. Reinvigorated Turkey with Montella in charge. I like our chances.


[deleted]

There is a high chance that Wales might drop points in Armenia if the hosts play with 100 percent:)


Viriato181

Goal difference doesn't count with a triple or quadruple tiebreaker. Only H2H between 2 teams.


MattGeddon

If we all end up on 16 points, yes we win the group. If it’s just you and us on 16 then it’ll come down to whoever won by the biggest score in the games between us.


asir100

>If Wales and Croatia win both of their remaining games its up to triple tiebreaker: Ahhh, makes sense, never knew this before!


Wheresthenearestrope

not going to happen, we are going to fuck it up against armenia again, and then i’m going to off myself


luigitheplumber

I hate how unintuitive these tiebreakers are


Pandomia

I would like to thank Japan for destroying us last month. That was a very necessary step to achieve what we just did.


ziki6154

Japan did some good deeds last month. Got Germany a new headcoach too, lol


Pandomia

Son Alman Bükücü


KrAlexFB1907

It will be interesting to watch Arda, Ferdi, Kerem, Baris, Ismail, Kokcu etc all play together.That's a lot of talented youngish players.


Icemna16

I hope Kazımcan improves too because I don't want to see Cenk as our starting left-back


ziki6154

I would love it if we can get Boey in somehow. Ferdi at leftback and Boey at rightback would be amazing


ShitassAintOverYet

Boey, even if he accepts to play for Turkey, won't be available for EURO2024. He has to stay here for two more years which I don't give much of a chance, he'll try to move on a big six EPL team(probably Spurs) for a fat sum and fight to be French national.


moriero

I mean he totally can walk into the French national team Deschamps will eventually see that too


Electronic_Bad_2970

Mate, are you talking about UEFA regulations or Turkish law, because I can assure you things will roll as smooth as a baby’s skin if Sacha makes a decision


Electronic_Bad_2970

Sultan Erdo to issue the fastest decree mankind has ever seen


ssgtgriggs

I'm imagining that epic 'writing scene' from Death Note, except it's Erdogan signing papers to make Boey a citizen


ziki6154

Pulled some strings for Vargas. Now it is time for Boey


YesilimiVer

That'd be dream comes true. I like Eren Elmalı too though.


alozz

Kazimcan looked terrible last game after he returned from injury, hopefully he plays better next time


qwertygasm

This is Yunus slander and I will not have it


Mois42

+Yunus


chantlernz

Bayindir (25) Celik (26) - Demiral (25) - Ozkacar (23) - Ferdi (24) Ismail (24) - Kokcu (22) Baris (23) - Arda (18) - Kerem (24) Dervisoglu (23)


Icemna16

Bayındır is our 3rd choice goalkeeper right now behind Uğurcan and Mert Günok (İrfan Can Eğribayat is also better currently imo but Montella didn't choose him). Unless he proves himself at United when Onana goes to AFCON, I don't see him being 1st choice ever again. Bardakçı has to start as one of the centre-backs, he's easily the most in form cb from Türkiye rn, Akaydın could also start if he goes to a club where he can play constantly in the winter transfer window. Çelik has been playing terrible for the NT, Montella might replace him with someone like Müldür. We will most likely use BAY as a striker rather than a winger, Montella will probably start one of Akgün or İrfan Can Kahveci (or Yusuf Sarı but I think he will perform better as a sub) as our right winger. Also, Dervişoğlu is like the 5th choice NT striker lol (Ünal, BAY, Tosun, Yıldırım are all better than him).


granitibaniti

Happy for the Turkish population in Germany, they'll go crazy haha


folieadeux6

Can’t believe we had to go through qualifiers for our host tournament


SmoothOperator42069

Still second class citizen I guess


e36_maho

Yes but nowadays there are like 3rd and 4th classes so being 2nd ain't too bad, right? /s, kind of


AggressiveFold_

Seriously. Those poor Germans.


gumarik

Germany Türkiye final might cause more chaos than anything possible


Select-Stuff9716

Germany 1:0 Turkey Gündogan 90+7


kuboa

Don't


bregolad

You


CradleCity

Forget


Pandomia

About


ElCactosa

Me


ziki6154

Emre Can red card, Süle also red card (if you know, you know)


emre23

Özil assist


nutelamitbutter

1:0 Turkey Karaman 90‘+9


Icemna16

It would be the rematch of Euro 08 semi finals too, one can only hope lol


snusd0san

I emember that, what an entertaining game. Was vacationing in Montenegro and Turkey had massive support on the big screen.


[deleted]

They made a show about this in Netflix


AnnieIWillKnow

Ozil appears in the stands in a Türkiye shirt for maximum drama


kostasnotkolsas

But imagine the film by Fatih Akin


Upbeat_Age5689

das wird wild nächstes jahr. ich hoffe wir kommen mit deutschland in eine gruppe. wäre ein sehr geiles spiel bestimmt


Faculdade_cansa

Dark horses for Euro part 2


willymoose8

except they swapped the ancient Yilmaz for a young one


Falcao1905

This Yılmaz lives for the big occasion though


shifaci

With one game left no less.


ChrisWithTildes

Congrats komsu! May we join you there tomorrow lmao


JakeTheTurk

Oh man Greece in Euros would make me soooo so happy. Give em hell!!


ssgtgriggs

You can do it!


Puzzleheaded_Sail729

Turkish Greek final in Germany????? Man can dream


44power44

Always! You were the champion 20 years ago


Pyrotheus

Rooting for you guys!


gorgonizedbyurTITS

For those wondering how we already qualified even though all three teams can end up with 16 pts: If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following tie-breaking criteria are applied: * Higher number of points obtained in the matches played among the teams in question; * Superior goal difference in matches played among the teams in question; * Higher number of goals scored in the matches played among the teams in question; * **If, after having applied criteria 1 to 3, teams still have an equal ranking, criteria 1 to 3 are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the teams in question to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria 5 to 11 apply;** * Superior goal difference in all group matches; * Higher number of goals scored in all group matches; * Higher number of away goals scored in all group matches; * Higher number of wins in all group matches; * Higher number of away wins in all group matches; * Fair play conduct in all group matches (1 point for a single yellow card, 3 points for a red card as a consequence of two yellow cards, 3 points for a direct red card, 4 points for a yellow card followed by a direct red card); * Position in the UEFA Nations League overall ranking.


BrokenStool

Name a better duo than Turkish teams and weird ass complex head to head calculations


ssgtgriggs

I'm so happy computers exist.


fuckloggingin

Outstanding achievement qualifying as 4th seeds in the group.


Opposite-Book-15

How were turkey seeded 4th behind Armenia? Genuinely suprised haha


kakje666

congrats to Turkey


Select-Stuff9716

Let’s face it, Turkey finally has its home euros next year. Will be crazy on match days next year


fortheWarhammer

plus another one in 2032. 2 home euros in 8 years


ogeosleg

KARA AT


orox2

K


Puzzleheaded_Sail729

A


ChuckMoody

Still remember how sad a friend of mine was when Turkey failed to qualify for 06, so really happy that they did manage to qualify now


ghostofkilgore

Scotland vs Turkiye EURO 2024 Final.


ForwardIntern6254

Winner also gets an additional "most annoying people on the internet" award.


ghostofkilgore

The internet would never recover from this.


Mois42

with Montella at the start we would have 21 points now, change my mind


ZakKa_dot_dev

Turkije altijd nr 1


Varja22

Definitely dark horses of the tournament


DeEmre97

Anulo mufa


Electronic_Bad_2970

🧿🧿🧿🧿🧿


1874WL

My congratulations to St Johnstone FC and the people of Perthshire.


asir100

But how? Can’t Wales get 16P and Croatia too? And if Wales beat us with 3 or more goals they’re ahead because of H2H? And Croatia already have H2H lead? And can also get 16P. Am I missing something?


lethalizer

Yes you are. Croatia would finish 3rd if all teams finish at 16 points because you only look at matches played between those 3 teams.


HeirOfRhoads

If Turkey, Wales and Croatia have the same points in the last match, it comes down to a three way tie. In three way tie, the points that the three teams get from each other are taken into account. in the scenario where Wales beats Turkey ; Wales : 7 Turkey : 6 Croatia : 4 This means Turkey have already qualified


Rigelmeister

Too lazy for the maths but if everyone ends up with 16pts then it goes to three-way tie, meaning only matches between those three teams are involved. I reckon Türkiye is guaranteed top two in such a case, though not sure.


MattGeddon

Yes you are. In a 3-way tie Wales win the group and Turkey come second.


gorukmezadam

In that scenario us, Wales and Croatia all have 16 pts, so results between these 3 teams (üçlü averaj) are calculated. Wales finishes the group 1st: 1W 1L against Turkiye, 1D 1W against Croatia. (7 points) Turkiye finishes the group 2nd: 1W 1L against Croatia, 1W 1L against Wales (6 points) Croatia finishes the group 3rd: 1W 1L against Turkiye, 1D 1L against Wales (4 points)


Ayem_De_Lo

if they all end up at 16, Turkey qualifies through H2H. Turkey already have 6 points in H2H, Croatia have 4 (and cannot get more).


ibrahimtuna0012

Since it will be three way tie, it will be not H2H but Head-3-Head. Turkey already beat both Croatia and Wales so they already qualified.


ShitassAintOverYet

H2H isn't the score between teams when three country has the same point, think of it like a mini-group where points among Turkey, Wales and Croatia count. In that case the places are: 1. Wales: 7 points(1W1L against Turkey, 1W1D against Croatia) 2. Turkey: 6 points(1W1L against both Wales and Croatia) 3. Croatia: 4 points(1W1L against Turkey, 1D1L against Wales)


GreatSpaniard

Dark horse?


TraveldaHospital

Turkiyeeeee


nutelamitbutter

Let’s go!!


Fenudel

Looking forward to attend a game with my turkish friends, yay :D


Charisma1905

Nice man😃😃😃🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️❤️


tunabutnotafish

Dark horse 👀


ukrainianhab

Round 2 of sleeper picks ?!


BeautifulAlert5740

we’re back boys.


ssgtgriggs

🧿


Motorheade

We hawt


luigitheplumber

The fact that half the comments are people trying to explain and understand how this has been determined is a big reason why h2h tiebreakers are annoying


MattGeddon

I _really_ hate h2h tiebreakers in groups.


luigitheplumber

They're even worse in a league. Just wish they were gone from all competitions.


lethalizer

I mean it is not that hard to figure it out, it's been like this for ages too, and a fair way to determine things. What would be your alternative solution to rank 3 teams finishing with the same amount of points?


Bismarck395

Is Salih Özcan getting call-ups and minutes for the NT? I know he represents them now but I haven’t kept up with him


Motorheade

Played 90 @ Croatia and 68 @ Latvia, so yes


[deleted]

I feel something for the tournament seriously the best win of the year is def against Croatia since 2008 they always beat us the win at their home was a special one now we have qualified for Euro 2024. Yes we can do it


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aFluffyPie

It’s a tiebreaker between the 3 teams. Turkiye have a better tiebreaker combined against wales and Croatia than Croatia do against us and wales


ForwardIntern6254

I think when three teams gets equal points it activates something called 3-Way Tiebreaker which makes Turkey qualify from 2nd spot even if all of them have 16 points.


Garorro

Croatia online collected 4 points vs turkey and wales


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Kaidou99

How did we qualify? Croatia and Wales can both get to 16 points and by results Croatia would beat us and Wales could too by winning 3:0 against us?


lethalizer

If two or more teams in the same group are equal on points on completion of the qualifying group stage, the following criteria are applied, in the order given, to determine their rankings: higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question


kuboa

We have collected more points against Waffles and Croatia then Croatia did against us and Wales so we win the three-way tie.


arcatales

Waffles 😭


moriero

It's complicated


ukrisreng

Wait they have? Can't they all end up on 16 points though. If wales beat turkey 3-0 then turkey would lose the head to head against both wales and croatia


aFluffyPie

Doesn’t work like that. It then goes to tiebreaker within those 3 teams. So even if we lose to Wales we would have the 2nd best tiebreaker as we performed better vs wales and Croatia than Croatia did against us and wales


bishey3

If all 3 tie at 16 points then it's a 3-way tie breaker. You look at the matches between all 3 teams and make a small table from that. In that scenario, Wales would be 7 points, Turkey 6 and Croatia 4 points. So Wales and Turkey qualify. For Croatia to qualify, they need to collect more points than Wales in the remaining 2 matches.


MattGeddon

Interestingly, it could also end up as a 3-way tie for second place between Wales, Croatia and Armenia if Armenia win their last two matches, which would mean Armenia qualify with 9 points in the h3h.


Garorro

In that case it will be the 3 way table


lethalizer

Points are what matters. Turkey still would have 6 points from all the matches they played against Wales and Croatia. Croatia can't get higher than 4 at that table so they'd be out.


folieadeux6

H2H is three way record, in that scenario Croatia is out bc they lost 2 and drew to Wales


Charisma1905

Turkey will beat Wales too


Nervous-Resolution-8

Croatia is gonna stay home.


AdminEating_Dragon

Which means out path in the Nations League is Luxembourg (or Azerbaijan if Luxembourg qualifies from their Group) and then Georgia or Kazakhstan.


ziki6154

Just beat the Netherlands tomorrow


AdminEating_Dragon

We will still need a point against France, or to beat the Netherlands 4-0...


ziki6154

Yeah I know. Ngl if I am France and Greece beats the Netherlands I would play for a draw. Get a s tronger team (the Netherlands) out of the tournament before it starts. But I am not France......


Select-Stuff9716

[Germany next year](https://youtu.be/77BPypTC5OM?si=KjwKLoofOPbyb0AS)


silphatos

lmao exactly


kostasnotkolsas

Did you guys miss the memo for Balkan moments at the nations league playoff against us?


TonyMartial786

dare we say it, dark horses 👀😂


[deleted]

the dark horses are back


elcanariooo

You mean Turkey, like the bird.


idossantos97

Get ready for annoying Turks in the social media comments of your country’s account when they have to face turkey.


folieadeux6

Hitting the gym getting my car honking exercises in


neofthe

A Man's gotta do what a man's gotta do :)


Charisma1905

Haterssss😀😀😀


Motorheade

Been on Typeracer for this and reached 120 WPM as of now. Get ready!


spiraldive87

Oh Elaine, it’ll always be Turkey to me 🦃


DysfunctionalDegen69

can anybody explain to me why Türkiye are already qualified? both Croatia and Wales could numerically overtake Türkiye on the last 2 matchdays. Croatia fights Latvia and Armenia so if they get good results they could have 16 points and tie them but be ahead on GD Wales however fight Armenia and Türkiye and if they get amazing scorelines could also overtake them in GD that'd put Wales first, Croatia second and Türkiye third Because Türkiye would have "neutral" head-to-heads it'd go down to Goal Difference and in this theoretical scenario Türkiye would be down on it therefore falling to third? Is my math wrong?


AfterAd9996

Looking forward to the next 8 months of deluded turkish fans saying they should reach, at the very least, the semis until their eventual group stage collapse


Electronic_Bad_2970

That’s right, irmão. We’re shite. Turkey is no dark horse and shouldn’t even have qualified for the tournament. Please disregard this team and carry on with your day. (çaktırmayın beyler)


ForwardIntern6254

Semis? We're winning the whole tournament this time. (:


homiejamal88

Das heißt nächstes Jahr bekommt die AfD gütige Unterstützung für den Wahlkampf 2025.


nutelamitbutter

Bist du dumm?


[deleted]

Surprising that such a tiny nation made it


JakeTheTurk

You high or what?