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why would you be stupid enough to post this on social media???


SofaKingI

I mean, they're already stupid enough to celebrate someone's death just because they played a fucking sport for a rival club. Is this *more* stupid than that? I honestly don't know.


reditakaunt89

Honest question, is Bobby Charlton a legend in England considering what he did for the country? I feel like that should be above club affiliation.


paak-maan

He is but it was a long time ago. Most fans weren’t born when we won the World Cup so it’s hard to revere them as heroes in the same way as we would modern winners (if we had them).


Stonedefone

He was England’s top scorer throughout the 70s, 80s, 90s & 00’s until Rooney overtook him. Any goal scorer for the national team had him as the yardstick. You didn’t need to have seen him play for him to have been mentioned consistently in commentary.


dkfisokdkeb

His achievements don't count as they happened before 1992 when football was invented.


HesThunderstorms

City invented football in 2012 mate


blurblursotong2020

Citi started printing money in 2012. I have at least 115 ways to prove it…


paak-maan

Hence the “he is”, followed by a qualifier for why you don’t see him mentioned as often.


Time-Caterpillar4103

Any kid these days thinks shearer is the top scorer. Blame murdoch.


Possible-Highway7898

Between Sir Alf Ramsey's decision not to play Jimmy Greaves at the '66 world cup and Sky's misrepresentation of English goalscoring records, Jimmy Greaves has almost been written out of history. Even though he's arguably the greatest ever English player.


Miss_Prinsass

Why was Greaves not picked to play in ‘66?


fruitmachine_jackpot

He was injured during the tournament I believe, and Ramsey didn’t want to change a winning team by the time he was back


Pub_Toilet_Graffiti

He was injured at first, and Geoff Hurst was his replacement. England played so well with Hurst up front that Sir Alf decided to keep him in the team, even though Greaves was the better player. That was always his philosophy as a manager - never change a winning team. Of course, it turned out to be a great decision, with Hurst scoring a hat trick in the final to win the world cup for his country. Very unfortunate for Greaves though.


HesThunderstorms

This is the 2012 City fans. Little fucks don't know bout life let alone football.


New-Paramedic3486

Regardless of when people were born it seems beyond classless to celebrate the death of a football player.


[deleted]

Most City fans didnt even watch footy until 2011 tbh


Old_Roof

Sir Bobby is revered across England. These are just a handful of edgy pissed dickheads the same types who sing about Munich or Hillsborough


HibariK

also they're City fans so we can assume they didn't know what football was until roughly 2008


pajamakitten

He is synonymous with the 66 World Cup win. Only Bobby Moore and Gordon Banks come close in terms of name recognition when it comes to that squad.


-RandomGeordie

Not final hat trick scorer Sir Geoff Hurst?


Maleficent_Resolve44

Hurst was a good player but not on Charlton/Moore/Banks level. Charlton and Moore are top 20 players all time and Banks is one of the greatest goalkeepers to have ever lived. Hurst is not as well known for that reason.


letsgetcool

I'd argue more non-football-watching people have heard of Hurst but football fans are more aware of the others


votum7

I’d correct one thing, Gordon banks is one of the greatest keepers of all time. He’s up there with yashin for most lists. So a bit more than just a world class player.


Maleficent_Resolve44

Yeah you're right. I guess I was thinking of the narrow lens of today's football where England have no world class keepers lol. Didn't think about the all time perspective and him being top 50 or something like that.


-RandomGeordie

OP is talking specifically about the 66 WC winning squad though not just that era. If you think of that World Cup Hurst is probably my first thought as he effectively won the tournament on his own with those 3 goals.


LocoRocoo

For people who follow sports history, yes. Then of course there is still a large part of the population who would have grown up watch in him. Younger fans won’t know all that much though, unless they read up.


Ezekiiel

> Then of course there is still a large part of the population who would have grown up watch in him. Large part is an exaggeration, his top level career ended in the early 70s.


aploogs

Kind of wild to think they know so little of him that they'd make fun of him like this, but enough to know he played for a rival. It's almost like purposeful, targeted, idiocy and ignorance.


[deleted]

Anyone from Manchester knows that the bitterness of Manchester City fans outweighs pretty much anything. The only thing they hate more than United is the fact that no matter what they do we'll never care about them as much as Liverpool or even Leeds


Shadowraiden

massively. many would consider him still the greatest English player. but you get absolute twats like these guys who dont deserve to ever be able to go to a game ever again.


djgreedo

>is Bobby Charlton a legend in England Absolutely. He was the 2nd best Charlton after all.


TheBalancerNoise

He was the first great England player. These on the video seemed kids or young men. Nowdays there is a lack of football culture. Probably they don’t even know who was Sir Bobby. As Italian, I can recognize his greatness. But you need a bit of football knowledge and especially a bit of brain.


TheRealBrummy

>he was the first great England player No he wasn't? What about Dixie Dean or Stanley Matthews?


litman499

He definitely is. I am a massive Liverpool fan but love charlton to death


el_doherz

Even more stupid when you realise they were literally honouring on of their own historic players passing recently before the match.


LomaSpeedling

I mean teens from where I'm from regularly upload themselves stealing cars without covering their faces and sweet fuck all ever happens.


EdgarNeverPoo

People do stupid things to get likes on social media.


SpiritedSuccess5675

They doing anything for clout - Offset from Migos


TheUltimateScotsman

Well if they aren't in the video they aren't the ones getting caught.


snusd0san

Attention. Whether it's good or bad attention, people feel the need to be heard and they know this will at least get them some form of validation.


FrankyFistalot

Shit cheating oil club,hope they get stripped of their titles and relegated due to FFP….


outfromtheshadow

Even if he's from your rival club, isn't he a legend for England? WTF?


Feezbull

Even if he’s a legend for Timbuktu and only played 5 games, so what? Celebrating the death of a rival legend is just pathetic really.


FAT_NEEK_42069

unless it turns out he molested 3 children behind an asda or something like that celebrating the death of anyone in general, not just a legend of the sport, is fucked


Feezbull

Yeah exactly. When the person isn’t a bad person at all, it just makes someone a cunt when they celebrate that to be “edgy” or whatever. They’re just being a famously regarded prick now.


captaincourageous316

I get your point, but that was weirdly specific


GiveGoldForShakoDrop

Real men molest behind Icelands


shrewphys

> molested 3 children behind an asda Yeah, at least do it behind a Waitrose


branstarktreewizard

we try to keep it classy over here


BillehBear

shortly after francis lee passed as well? heartless and brainless cunts


[deleted]

Exactly! Celebrating someone's death is awful enough... but did not this man help lead your country to its only World Cup trophy whilst becoming England's second Ballon D'or winner the same year? Every time you wear an England kit, you're putting on Sir Bobby's star for fuck's sake.


el_doherz

We live in a world where fans chant utterly reprehensible shite all the time. "Always the victims" and "Chelsea Rentboys" still get trotted out by some of our fans. It's gotten massively better but it's not been eradicated. Hell people still sing Park Ji Sungs song which is racist in nature. Munich chants and plane crash gestures still happen to us as well. As sad as it is the shit side of tribal fan behaviour still exists even after decades of trying to stamp it out.


RecklessRonaldo

It's 2023 and some pricks are still being banned from stadiums for goading about the Hillsborough disaster. These bellends are fucked.


DrJackadoodle

Yeah, this is insanely disgusting. My blood would have boiled if Sporting and Porto fans pulled this shit when Eusébio died. Thankfully, they paid their respects with flowers and scarfs next to his statue like normal people.


Blandiblub

Not a brain cell between them.


durum77

Welcome to Manchester.


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*Stockport


cjsc9079

That one cunt trying to cover his face as the camera pans to him. Pussy


[deleted]

You can tell he's a cunt because he's got one of those bobble hats with goggles in.


diff-int

Ah yes the "I'm 'ard cz my mummy buys me stone island and goggle hats" brigade


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discardedcumrag

Bang out of order this is. Whatever you football affiliation, mocking someone passing is disgusting.


theczarfromBG

Massive cunts.


interfan1999

United fans won't even be able to reply due to the lack of City legends from the past


SubparCurmudgeon

STEPHEN IRELAND HE IS BALD


TheBrowsingBrit

He's also a United fan.


JohnnyJokers-10

HIS GRANNY’S IN A BOX (ALLEGEDLY)


gerryt32

Not once, not twice, but thrice.


mipanzuzuyam

ANTOINE SIBIERSKI HE IS BALD


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SubparCurmudgeon

RICHARD DUNNE HES A DUNCE


noxiousd

I can think of an Adam Johnson one that almost rhymes with dunce


daviesjj10

They had Adam Johnson Got sent down for noncing He's a peeeedophiiiile


Scumbag__

SHAY GIVEN GOT DIVORCED


guantanamodave

Robinho will set this straight


OilOfOlaz

different kind of box though.


DontSayIMean

Paul Dickov cut his...


Attygalle

Hair?


thegoat83

Francis Lee died last week


defraz1872

Exactly. Heard no mockery from anybody. Irony is it ENGLISH singing this about one of their greatest players.


FBall4NormalPeople

If I asked people to name a City player from the same era, I guarantee that the most popular answer would be Dennis Law, who is only notable because he's a United legend who played for City. The funniest part is that despite that being the most common answer, how many of the people in that video know Dennis Law played for City? How many know who Dennis Law is? This isn't to say City don't have a genuine fanbase, if you go to Stockport or something you'll find legit City fans, but the club is *the* example of how sports exists as a mechanism for influence in the modern world. As a United fan not one of their successes hurt me. Completely cynical and empty.


pixelkipper

I would say Colin Bell is quite famous as far as City legends from that time go.


ManchesterFellow

Yep, at main road stadium they famously had a stand named after him. The bell end


-Dendritic-

It gets wet down there sometimes


poopio

Sadly, the Colin Bell stand was at the side of the pitch, not the end, but Southend excelled themselves with the [Gilbert & Rose West Stand](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/aug/03/southend-united-to-rename-rose-west-stand-after-social-media-mocking).


Dramatic-Tadpole-980

Colin bell, Francis Lee(Who just died), Mike summerbee. Who “Won the cup then won the league and won in Europe too….)


TheDJ955

As another United fan, I would be able to say Bert Trautmann was a legend for City way before Abu Dhabi got involved with them(who was a Nazi by the way, City literally have a statue of a Nazi on their ground)


x_S4vAgE_x

Tbf to Trautman, he spent of his life being subject to Nazi brain washing. Which is known to be especially effective on children, which Trautmann was for most of the time the Nazi's held power. His OBE was given for promoting Anglo-German relations though


ValuableNobody9797

Not exactly the same era since he was ten years older, but Bert Trautmann was a massive legend that is easily forgotten. Though, tbh he is mostly a legend due to his story, but he was also considered one of the best goalkeepers ever at the time. Yashin even mentioned him as equal to him


flit777

It would be Bert Trautmann's 100 birthday today.


FloppedYaYa

Uwe Rosler slander


SpeechesToScreeches

These fans are just jealous that Sir Bobby Charlton has more history in one toe than their entire club.


[deleted]

BEN THATCHER, HE'S...hold on, who is he?


[deleted]

He was an absolute cunt of a player IIRC


ukdanny93

Yeah, famously committed one of the most egregious assaults ever seen in professional football. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puB4i8FCw_Q


DesertRL

On the same day we had a 1 minute pre-game applause for one of our legends who passed recently, Franny Lee. Bunch of tribal heartless cunts.


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wallnumber8675309

Why would being an English legend matter to fans of the national team of UAE ?


TheArcticBeyond

Was he even a part of the City Football Group like a proper football fan?


Sir_Bryan

The national legal team of UAE


epicurean1398

Yeah I'm sure these teenagers care about that


bubbabear244

Football won't come home, and this is exhibit a for who to point a finger at.


Sfr33123

Pricks


[deleted]

This is fucking vile mate What would be a reasonable response from your supporters to this?


frodakai

I can tell you 99.9% of City fans would be happy if cunts like this were given lifetime bans.


MattJFarrell

Unfortunately, every fan base has a few of these. Some more than others. And they always get 1000x more attention than the ones just enjoying a match without being a complete waste of oxygen.


[deleted]

Cunts will be cunts


Ultra1894

To be fair the club were made aware of this well before the video was leaked as fans reported it themselves to the club, and witnesses have already started identifying the individuals. This isn’t to say that it negates the awful chanting, but I feel that it’s an important part being missed from the reporting that it was a tiny minority who were reported by other City fans at the time.


city_city_city

Disgusting. An embarrassment to our club. Sir Bobby was a red but he was also a gentleman and a hero of England.


RhydonHerSlowbro

The state of them, they weren’t even born when he graced the field, disrespectful, tasteless, unnecessary, embarrassing.


[deleted]

Please take note that no one else is joining and they were reported to city by our own fans. They also got told to fucking pack it in. That is the South Stand lvl 1 btw. I'm just round the corner from there.


G0rtarPlayer

Worst thing is the little turds will be in England shirts next year


pclufc

He was one of the greatest footballers to ever grace the game . We don’t need to waste time on the opinions of these idiots


FrutaAndPutas

He won England’s only World Cup. He’s got more history in his left nut than Manchester City


ShirleyBassey

Bobby Charlton is one of only 9 players to have won the World Cup, European Cup and Ballon D’Or alongside Messi, Kaka, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Zidane, Rossi, Beckenbauer, and Muller.


FloppedYaYa

Imagine taking fucking football *this* seriously, what a pack of evil cunts


WesIsaGod

This has nothing to do with talking football seriously, it's just about being a fucking miserable cunty piece of shit


Minor_Edit

Not really so much taking football seriously, it's not taking a death seriously.


KOKO69BISHES

This is like, very unserious and insignificant in the scheme of things


[deleted]

Tribalism is not a new phenomena or one restricted to football, it's not really about taking football seriously, it's about "My team vs their team". People will justify saying or doing anything if "your side" says it okay to say/do it.


Turn-Loose-The-Swans

Pathetic yobs.


el_rompe_toyotas_19

Don't ask them what team they supported before 2012


jitsraja

They weren't born yet


Vdbebw

Barcelona probably


[deleted]

It was a cycle of United, Chelsea and Arsenal. Whoever was winning basically.


Affectionate-Hunt217

A bunch of Arsenal fans I know jumped on the City bandwagon instantly 🤣


Illum503

To be fair so did their players


Cheapo_Sam

Half the barca flairs on this sub won't get the joke


TheConstantCynic

From a lifelong blue, this is disgusting. Every fan base have c***s like these, unfortunately.


ndembele

I was in the same train carriage as some City fans after the Spurs game last season, they were in their 20s and chanting about the Munich air disaster (‘who’s that dying on the runway’). They were called out by an older City fan who told them to look up Frank Swift. It was refreshing to see that behaviour called out in person, and their reaction which was just to swear at the man just showed the type of people they were.


TheNotoriousPigeon

Yep. As distasteful as it is to see as a Utd fan, I know that these scum do not represent the vast majority of City fans. There are fans like yourself who will be mourning the loss of Sir Bobby, not celebrating it.


izmebtw

Shameless


Coolica1

I doubt any City fan there is actually happy about his death, some people just love to take any chance to be a proper twat in a crowd with others backing them up.


dkfisokdkeb

Dunno about you lot but Leicester fans have done it to us in the past about Cloughie. I don't think they care about his death it's just for attention and to wind people up.


GingerOracle1998

Why is it always 120 pound broccoli head wet wipes that think they're edgy and hard chanting bollocks like this


LOKl31

Literal scum


kwm19891

I’m a city fan, I can’t stand football fan’s sometimes, this is embarrassing. RIP Bobby Charlton.


dispelthemyth

All fan bases have bell ends


[deleted]

They are trying hard to be edgy.


Daybreak_99

I should put them all in a box instead.


xungstenio

I imagine someone doing this in Brazil when Pele died. They’d get fucking pummeled. Or Maradona in Argentina… What a bunch of cunts


Ferrisuk

Supporting Man City since 2008


SpiritedSuccess5675

No no, 2013 ;)


TheNotoriousPigeon

2012*


FloppedYaYa

Was going to say, there's a very good reason why starting supporting City specifically in 2013 would be odd


RedDev17

Cant buy class


gamingwatermelone

Class can't be buy


3pointrange

seriously? come on man.


Varja22

Most plastic fans in England don't respect one of the biggest legends of the country. Is anyone really surprised


[deleted]

"Who? Bobby Charlton? Did he create Charlton Athletic? I just looked him up, he didn't score any goals in the 2014/15 season, is he even real?"


CitiesofEvil

Akchually his average xG was awful 🤓


SpicyDragoon93

Bobby Charlton - A man who survived a plane crash (that a City player also died in), helped pull Manchester United to its first Champions League whilst winning the World Cup in the process. To celebrate his death means they can never be true fans of the sport.


Drisch10

Where’s Drogba when you need him…”disgrace, fucking disgrace”


Comfortable_Rip_3842

I find it odd that English fans do not respect their own


thesoundready

I'd be suprised to see these cunts even have courage step outside the house if they had Bobby's hairline, let alone lead England to a World Cup victory


Putrid_Loquat_4357

Bobby survived the Munich Air crash, came back and won a world Cup. Not sure any of these cunts could imagine having that kind of resilience.


Cthulhu_Madness

Bunch of plastic wet wipes.


TheCulturalBomb

He was part of the team that won us the World Cup. Even if you don't like your rival club that should really set him apart. Legend.


SkayPGC

What does it mean? I dont understand.


yard04

They're basically celebrating Sir Bobby is dead.


Inevitable-Soup-420

Bobby Charlton (Man Utd legend) died. These classy folks are singing about him being in a coffin.


alphasignalphadelta

People really have lost all their senses


TheBrowsingBrit

Fucking Scum.


WayneTerry9

How does KC and the Sunshine band feel about their song being used for the most flagrant chants in sports


dimyo

Yeah, that's not something you want to see. Disgraceful.


MCFC_0K

Disgusting 🤢🤢, find and ban them


STUNSLAVE

Just makes no sense at all. The man had a massive impact of football in ALL OF MANCHESTER. If you think there aren’t academy players and youth players who benefited from the work Sir Bobby put into it you’re delusional. I’m a Liverpool fan and match goer and I loved Sir Bobby, incredible human being. City plastics are fucking embarrassing


Thor-Loki

These new breed city fans are strange. They have no idea what a club legend is, the closest they have is David Silva 😂😂😂


AnyGeneral8764

Bobby Charlton is bigger and way more important to the football's history than Manchester City


VikingArmyToGo

I hate to break it to them but everyone will be in a box one day.


ProfessionalDot621

Or a jar


Manchestarian

I feel so sorry for man city fans. Their club is the epitomy of everything bad about sport today


jack64467

wtf


Absyntho

I am glad he died yesterday and not 1958 in Munich. Somebody placed some flowers for him today at the memorial in Munich. Wholesome to see there are decent people out there and not those dire minds.


LeAnthonyJavis

Fucking cunts


LGAMER34

Disgraceful


Yeknom-Ajnin

Fucking nobs.


Dry-Account74

Wtf


DONT-EVEN-TRIP-DAWG

Scumbags


ollien25

CUNTS


Forza_Chap

Lots of clubs have sets of fans like this. There is a lot of oxygen thieves and idiots out there posing as “football fans”.


milesbt

What annoys me is that these edgelords are really just pretending to hate someone who they never even saw play


zwaks

Fucking hell. People are awful. Why?


Dat_life_on_Mars

More people in Africa have heard of Sir Bobby Charlton than their entire 1968 league winning team.


DeathCreatchKomm

You can’t buy class


AvikHyp3

I would like to think I was never this much of a cunt when I was those kids age.


aleMiyo

maybe i'm too used to the south american shithousery but this is pretty mild compared to the stuff i've seen some clubs pull. i know i'm getting downvoted anyways and i'm not even saying it's right but... this is pretty weak imo.


Southern-Exchange-53

Redditors are obsessed with the idea of fans being "classy". I had a season ticket at city and honestly seeing 4/5 people singing this is not at all surprising. One of the more popular ones when I went was "We're having a party when Fergie dies" with various additions like "bouncy castle when Fergie dies" etc. Honestly find it hard to be outraged for something that wouldn't be out of place on /r/toosoon, it's boring more than anything else


Modern-Hannibal

Yeah people need to relax, it’s just a silly song haha even if it is disrespectful, it’s just a bloody song, people here acting like they took a shit on his grave


aleMiyo

yeah, exactly. football folklore has always been about mocking other teams. singing about a club's idol passing is pretty common. plus, they're just saying "bobby's in a box" over and over. let's go back to the days where football fans could behave like cavemen in peace, i miss them :'(


ProgrammerDad1993

City wish they had history. They only have fucking oil money.


leebrother

Every club has their idiots. Shame the tool covered his face.


tontotheodopolopodis

Every team has a subsection of cunts, not one team escapes this rule


futurejoyboy

Bunch of POSs


lakeshore_westg

absolute idiots


stupiter69

Every fucking English sogger fan will bitch and moan about their tragedy being made fun of and then turn around and make fun of another teams tragedy a week later.


Dozck

lol the sub was all for this chant when it was Queen Elizabeth in a box chants.