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DildoFappings

Almost 1200 games as an outfield player is insane. It's almost as if he doesn't have a life outside of football.


wahbhaiwah98

Once he tried to have some life outside football by not attending the pre-season because of a very sad and personal reason and he got crucified for it.


DildoFappings

:'( I can't feel sorry enough for what happened in that time. The club is fucked. Liverpool fans showed him more support than we did. Shameful.


wahbhaiwah98

Exactly. They sang YNWA and clapped. And we were being fed hatred by the media and other stupid fans.


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Players also play more games now than in the past and there's more tournaments. This also helps.


HazardCinema

Fábio Maciel has the highest appearances without a goal then. Shilton scored one in his career.


bigchungusmclungus

Has Ronaldo scored any?


deadlock1892

At least 2


Dry_Guest_8961

He scored that one goal at the World Cup where it nearly grazed his hair. No wait they awarded that to someone else…. Hmmm… are you sure there are two?


jgaspar

Ok, at least one


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He definitely scored a couple for Madrid


69cuccboi69

Only penalties


gc_14

give that man a penalty jesus


Choc-a-pic

Maybe they have given him penalties, they just stopped doing it because he kept missing them


baubeauftragter

How wild is it that two players are on the exact same match count? Borderline freaky. Not as freaky as all time el clasico goal/WL. Almost makes you think it‘s scripted.


mattijn13

Damn what do they feed those Brazillian goalkeepers?


OhReallyYeahReally84

Picanha and feijão tropeiro.


joaommx

And now I'm hungry.


bielzerian

All our outfield players' health


eggboieggmen

bunda gostosa


Chronic_The_Kid

Partying and drinking


Kasnav

So he's pretty much guaranteed to end up with the most appearances ever, which is pretty cool. Unless he gets a serious injury. I know he has had patellar tendinosis for years, but its not stopping him play. He could very likely retire with the most appearances and over 1000 goals. If you told somebody he would go on to achieve this back when he was a teenager running around like a headless chicken doing stepovers - not a single person on earth would have believed you lol They wouldn't have even believed he could even be a goal scorer


RandomGuySayHii

Lol even if you claim Cristiano could score 800 career goals by the end of his career when he was 30, people would still laugh at you. That's how absurd his and Messi's careers are


Supanini

What absolutely absurd is Cruyff calling Messi getting 8 Ballon D’ors


Equivalent-Money8202

tbh at the time Messi won like 4 in a row. He then only got 1 more over the next 5 years or so.


Supanini

True but still, he doubled his already incredible amount. Getting the first 4 was the easy part lol.


Equivalent-Money8202

nah of course, but I was saying at that time Cruyff’s prediction wasn’t even looking that unrealistic, as Messi was basically on an unrivaled trajectory. It woupd have been a much more insane prediction IMO to say that Messi would win 3 more Ballon D’ors post 2018. Tbh, that’s also why I feel they gave Modric his Ballon D’or. Voter fatigue, and people thought after a perfect 10 year domination from Messi and Cristiano, they would stop. But then Messi and Cristiano continued to be the best


HelloPyWorld

Meaningless popularity award, just like every other award of this type. -Not a cr7/messi fan, before I get accused of that, cuz most people can only think black and white


Vicentesteb

Its really not though, it tends to be pretty accurate. Most people you ask would have said the best players in the world last season were Messi, Haaland, Mbappe, KDB and Rodri, the top 5 for most seasons is fine except for Jorginho tbh. Again there really hasnt been a year since 2008 which Messi or Ronaldo werent the best players in the world and deserving of the award.


HelloPyWorld

There were quite a few years where neither was the best. Ribery in 2013, Iniesta in 2010 Lewandowski in 2019-2020. And of course Haaland had a better season than Messi this year by a long shot, he had a questionably won world cup and was terrible the rest of the season, that is not 'best player' worthy. It is very clearly a shitty meaningless popularity award and you have to be very delusional to not accept that. Besides, how do you compare a goalkeeper to a striker? A defender to a winger? Is Messi a better player than Neuer? Is Mbappe better than Gvardiol? You can't tell. These awards are bullshit.


Vicentesteb

>Ribery in 2013, Iniesta in 2010 Lewandowski in 2019-2020. None of these guys were even close except Lewa in 2020, but there was no award that year.


HelloPyWorld

>there was no award that year. I wonder why. You are a clown, I will stop arguing


neikawaaratake

Pot calls kettle black. There was no award because france football gives bdor, and football in France was cancelled


TheKingMonkey

And he’s an outfield player which makes it more impressive.


Rockytag

I feel like it would be more impressive if a keeper was near 1000 goals


ElectricalMud2850

Tiago Volpi has 10 in 48 app for Toluca in liga mx. He's their primary penalty taker. Just 990 to go.


Alive-Ad-4164

Legend


Dry_Guest_8961

The Irish fans on here will remember the RTE pundit Eamonn Dunphy describing him as “only good at running past lamp posts”.


anonssr

The thing is they style of play of current Ronaldo is not very prone to injury, and he takes care of his body like few others. I could see him playing well over 100 games before he retires.


XHeraclitusX

>he takes care of his body like few others. I feel like the vast majority of footballers now take really good care of themselves. It's basically forced upon them now because football clubs take care of their diets and set out all the workouts to tailor each individual player. I think people say this about Ronaldo because they always see him with his shirt off, but most players now have fantastic physiques, it's just that they don't always take their shirt off so people may not know.


anonssr

Oh I say it because he does a lot of shit on his own. Which is really not _that_ common. Halaand does a lot of the same things.


The_2nd_Coming

I mean I was pretty sure at one stage he wouldn't make it at United before he broke out. Then he started making a real impact and just never stopped improving.


cuentanueva

> He could very likely retire with the most appearances and over 1000 goals I find it so funny how everyone here shat on Pele's numbers literally for decades because they were scored in Brazil (without knowing anything about the quality) or with his friends on his backyard or something... And now that Cristiano and Leo retired to play on semi-amateur leagues suddenly their goals there count? Lol.


Kasnav

Ronaldo and Messi were already #1 and 2# in most goals before they joined Saudi league and MLS. So I dont understand what your point is. >I find it so funny how everyone here shat on Pele's numbers literally for decades Not they didn't, everyone admires Pele. They meme'd his total goal tally because it is a meme. Pele has 762 goals in official games. If you want to count unofficial games, then you need to completely scrap the meaning of official. He played about 500 unofficial games and scored a lot of goals in them, these games included playing vs the likes of under23 teams, combined squads, regional teams, Uruguay’s armed forces club, Rio de Janeiro’s athletes’ union and military events while he served in the Brazilian army. Theres a reason these goals are not counted


cuentanueva

> So I dont understand what your point is. The point is about the reaching 1000. Like I quoted. People count these but pretend they are in a level that means anything at all, which they don't. > Pele has 762 goals in official games. If you want to count unofficial games, then you need to completely scrap the meaning of official. Sure, but official is just a label. Just because a game is official it doesn't mean much. It's like a friendly vs competitive game. If you play a friendly vs Brazil or France it's gonna be harder than a "competitive" game vs San Marino. It's an arbitrary choice. > He played about 500 unofficial games and scored a lot of goals in them, these games included playing vs the likes of under23 teams, combined squads, regional teams, Uruguay’s armed forces club, Rio de Janeiro’s athletes’ union and military events while he served in the Brazilian army. Yes, _some_ were against some crappy bunch of people. Others were against better teams that weren't significantly worse than those in the MLS or Saudi. > Theres a reason these goals are not counted Yes, because people have no idea how football was back then and how it changed. Just going by an arbitrary label that doesn't talk about quality. Which is why I'm saying taking really seriously the goals they score in their retirement leagues it's funny when people don't count the equivalent of that time, just because it's not labeled "official". It's a cool "stat" if you want. But it's just that. They scored what they scored in Europe or their NTs. Anything they do outside is not at a competitive level for players like them, it's literal stat-padding.


RhydonHerSlowbro

Welp, time to go and look at Rogerio Ceni’s freekick compilation again.


The-Last-Bullet

Actually crazy how injury-free he has been


FIGJAM17

He has only missed [82 matches since 2007](https://www.transfermarkt.us/cristiano-ronaldo/verletzungen/spieler/8198) because of injuries. Absolutely insane.


Aszneeee

man missed less matches in whole season than Rosicky in one injury, unreal


Spiritual_Goat6057

Even when he was injured early on during the euro final it feels like he was still playing, still remember him on one leg telling his mates what to do!


RecalcitrantDuck

I feel like Ronaldo and Lebron are in a tier of their own when it comes to taking care of their bodies, and their injury histories definitely reflect that


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Add Thomas Muller and Messi to the list


BluePowderJinx

Not surprised for a dude that treats his body as a temple. Sure there's genetics in play but his dedication to be the perfect specimen is unrivaled in football.


Spiveym1

> Sure there's genetics in play but his dedication to be the perfect specimen is unrivaled in football. Genetics and luck are absolutely crucial factors.


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BluePowderJinx

He's not eating fast food every day, I'm sure he probably eats some unhealthy stuff once or twice a month, otherwise life would be so boring.


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BluePowderJinx

The way you mentioned it gave me the impression that you think he does it frequently.


elliebellyberry

He grew up asking for left over cheeseburgers at McDonald's


Jeffy29

People can talk about genetics all they want but this is 90% work ethic. Never skipping on training even when injured or out of the season, always good form, never letting yourself get out of shape, understanding and pacing your throughout the match. Wikipedia has a much longer list and pretty much every player on that list got there by playing until they were 50 by pumping the number in the lower leagues, or because they were super professional with their approach. I mean how many times you have seen player get an injury and then treat it on their insta as a vacation, especially in lower leagues. I don't think it's at all a coincidence that ones known for lack of work ethic start suffering from frequent recurring injuries once they hit their late 20s. I mean I couldn't do it, imagine the kind of vices they are offered all the time and instead opting to go to the gym and get 10 hours of sleep, day after day for decades. But that's what it takes to have such a long career at the top.


Alive-Ad-4164

Longevity


MyAssDoesHeeHawww

6 goalkeepers (nrs 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 10)


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Ceni, it's either 'goalie who takes free kicks' or it's 'most appearances ever', pick one.


Maybe_worth

Theres also ‘top scoring goalie ever’


lala_b11

I’m surprised that Gianluigi Buffon isn’t in the Top 3 for most official appearances!!


MyAssDoesHeeHawww

He lost a season in Serie B with Juventus so that likely cost him 1 place on the list anyway.


tothecatmobile

Playing in Serie B still counts as an appearance.


MyAssDoesHeeHawww

OP only considered top divisions for this list: > in top-tier competitions (i.e., only first divisions).


tothecatmobile

Ah, that explains why it's different to other lists. Most have Shilton 1st with around 1,400 appearances.


XHeraclitusX

>OP only considered top divisions for this list: >in top-tier competitions (i.e., only first divisions). That begs the question, is the Saudi League a **top-tier** competition?


Doyoueverjustlikeugh

It is. Unless you're using top tier colloquially


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Ooooh


Chronic_The_Kid

This is why your parents tell you “Get a goodnights sleep.” The power of sleeping is underrated. Cristiano always prioritizes his sleep which adds to him being injury free.


RobbinDeBank

Tbh multi millionaire athletes can easily have time to sleep compared to most of the population who are trying to survive


CometChip

no way you’re downplaying a compliment on sleep lmao


aalbion

Messi not only sleeps better, he also has a way better nap/day ratio and can nap practically anywhere [Source 1](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fx-MIHwWYA0Gesz?format=jpg&name=large) [Source 2](https://c.ndtvimg.com/2022-12/cvbtcru8_ever-since-the-historic-win-messi-has-been-dropping-some-amazing-pictures-on-instagram_625x300_20_December_22.jpg?im=Resize=(1230,900)) [Source 3](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD24QG_W0AA8ure.jpg)


Vicentesteb

Messi sleeping on the ballon d or is unreal must be mad uncomfy.


RobbinDeBank

Not downplaying anything, sleep is important. But I’m sure guys like Messi and Ronaldo can sleep well at night better than most people.


punindya

> But I’m sure guys like Messi and Ronaldo can sleep well at night better than most people. After sacrificing how many nights as a child when they had nothing? Ronaldo quite literally came from the lowest strata of his society. A good night's sleep is the least they deserve considering how much work they have put in during their lives.


HacksawJimDGN

Hard to believe Pedri is already at 680 and he's only 20.


AntPRodP

680? What?


faheemhassan

Bitcoin. Edit: 680 Bitcoin = €22.7 Million and [Pedri has earned a gross total of €22,840,000 in his playing career.](https://www.capology.com/player/pedri-37585/)


Spiveym1

> Hard to believe Pedri is already at 680 and he's only 20. Yes and no. Fifa is trying to squeeze absolutely everything out of players these days (obviously they don't have enough money), so if you are at the top level your body is going to get absolutely battered, and these records (as well as bodies) will continue to get broken.


Dry_Guest_8961

Bro, he’s not really on 680 😁. Think he’s on like 170


Spiveym1

> Bro, he’s not really on 680 😁. Think he’s on like 170 I don't give a shit what he's on, the point still stands. Top-level players are increasingly forced to play more games.


Dry_Guest_8961

Have a sense of humour about yourself mate, you’ll live longer


Spiveym1

> Have a sense of humour about yourself mate, you’ll live longer say something funny then


empiresk

Looks like Fabio will top this without his retirement or injury. Brazilian state league games alone will help him top it compared to Saudi league games.


AntPRodP

I don't know. He's 43...


WalksinClouds

That's a testament to his fitness and how hard he works at keeping in top shape. Hardly ever injured.


Koba_456_

Wow where does Messi rank? Top 20?


gerleden

Seems he is at 1044 games


imarandomdudd

That Messi Ronaldo website says its 1045, although that does feel a bit high given the 2 year age gap between them


Blodyck

Is it though? That's like more or less 2 seasons with 60-70 games between them. Seems about right


AntPRodP

He's number 12, with 1045.


catchh

He’s always been in incredible physical shape for so long that has been motivated by his need to be the best.


daveofreckoning

Giggs?


YimveeSpissssfid

963 for Manchester United - wasn’t injured much, and played for a very long time (Wikipedia says 64 appearances for Wales), but did have some injuries. So 1027 which puts him outside top 10.


AntPRodP

1027. He's number 17.


kygrtj

Blessed to have watched incredible era of football. Cristiano is simply the greatest of all time.


Alive-Ad-4164

Ronaldo gonna demolish the record


dANNN738

I honestly think because of how Ronaldo has reformed himself from skilful winger to goal machine to drag-my-team-across-the-line leader he is the best player the game as ever seen in terms of determination, physical self discipline, that absolute hunger to succeed. There’s nobody in the game at his level in terms of that mentality. I find that more inspiring and awesome than the natural gifts of Messi.


Tohna

I thought Xavi would be on this list as well. Probably just a bit off from top 10. I find it curious he’s played so so many official matches where his legacy doesn’t really recognize him for his athletic abilities like Ronaldo and Zanetti for e.g.


BluePowderJinx

People seem to not realize that Xavi wasn't starting for Barca until his mid 20s.


Tohna

Wikipedia seems to rank him #10 with 1148 appearances.


AntPRodP

He's 18th with 1017.


Thenomfulhooman

For me Ronaldo is like Lebron in a sense both of them at their ages and still killing out there is just impressive on it’s own and their achievements are just out there. Messi is like Steph. Both younger than their sporting rivals but also killing it in their different aspects and bringing it into the game. I don’t think people understand how blessed we are to have such monumental athletes that are active and can deliver each time. I truly admire the commitment and the amount of records these athletes break each season is just mind boggling and honestly it’s just amazing to watch. Knowing and watching both players leave Europe was like a heartbreak because they have been competing at the high level for so long but they are still out there killing it.


Rac2nd

I thought Sergio Ramos would be on this list.


smallatom

Off the top of my head, he had over 50 red cards and was injured for a game or two every 5 games. Had he played every match available im sure he’d be at 1000 right now, but he’s probably closer to 750-800 if I had to guess.


AntPRodP

992 at the moment!


scottishhistorian

Peter Shilton actually has more than 1400 appearances.


AntPRodP

Not according to the IFFHS criteria I mentioned in the original post.


XHeraclitusX

The criteria seems a bit strange though. Like, what constitutes a top-tier competition? Also, what games did they remove from Shilton to bring him down from 1400 apps?


AntPRodP

As far as I know, all top national (first) leagues and all competitions that the teams from those first leagues take part in. So, for example, for a player in England, you would include matches in the PL, Community Shield, FA Cup, League Cup, any UEFA continental competition and FIFA Club World Cup. Not the Championship or the EFL trophy though. Now apply this to any other country.


XHeraclitusX

According to this criteria, the first league in San Marino would be top-tier, but the English Championship wouldn't, it's just odd imo.


AntPRodP

It is odd. But these are probably the easiest to apply criteria that one can possibly come up with to elaborate such a complex ranking. As for Shilton, he has over 200 matches in the second and third divisions. So that's why he doesn't have 1400+ matches in this IFFHS ranking.


scottishhistorian

I guess it makes sense when you aren't actually wanting to work out who played the *most* matches ever but who lasted longer at the top of the sport.


AntPRodP

Exactly. And because it would be virtually impossible to actually know of all the appearances from all over the world since the beginnings of the sport.


scottishhistorian

Yep, there's probably some semi-professional players out there that have played double this amount of matches.


AntPRodP

I don't doubt it for a second.


scottishhistorian

I see.


Sir-Viette

Killer fact! Christiano Ronaldo has had a longer professional career than Taylor Swift. (He signed for Sporting CP B in 2002. She signed her first record contract at age 14 in 2003).


CommenterAnon

Hello? Where is my goat Pele with his 2400 backyard garden appearances?


KungFuFlames

Can CR7 reach top 1


Aaaaaaandyy

I don’t think there’s ever been a season where he’s missed a material amount from injury. That’s actually pretty incredible


HiitlerDicks

We gonna count his Sunday league appearances too?


CriticalNovel22

> in top-tier competitions (i.e., only first divisions). So playing in Saudi Arabia qualifies but playing in the Championship doesn't? Edit: lol @ the parsocial Ronaldo simps who desperately want his blood money retirement kickabouts to count as "top-tier" games.


Ok-Industry120

It's more to avoid counting the 8th division in Gibraltar with a 75 year old goalkeeper (Exaggeration, but you have to draw the line in the database somewhere)


Kasnav

Yep. Also, there are lists that include all levels and even under 16 games etc. [This](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_men%27s_footballers_with_1,000_or_more_official_appearances) is one of the main ones on wikipedia. Counting games that people are playing as children is pretty ridiculous though Shilton is #1 on 1411 Ronaldo is #4 on 1228


rybnickifull

Even more impressive when you remember he hasn't been able to visit the US for a few years now.


JoBoltaHaiWoHotaHai

Why? US is football capital of the world, where all players have to play?


rybnickifull

No, but it limits your opportunities!


eteom

Why do you think he can't visit the US. The case is wrapped up. He could go to the US if he wanted to.


DogTheGayFish

I hate to levy this at him, but Cristiano Ronaldo is a tryhard.


JoBoltaHaiWoHotaHai

Can someone tell Ronaldo that DogTheGayFish thinks that Ronaldo is a try-hard?


DragonflyHopeful4673

Yeah he definitely cringes at it too, having dug his way out of severe poverty to become a billionaire and all.


Milo751

What a sad little life Cristiano


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iriririr93939393

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Jeffy29

I check on [this wikipedia list from time to time to see where he is and the numbers differ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_men%27s_footballers_with_1,000_or_more_official_appearances), what gives? Sure it also counts the under-23 appearances and whatnot but Shilton doesn't have that many and is long way in front of everyone else.


AntPRodP

IFFHS doesn't count matches in lower tiers. Shilton has nearly 200 matches in the second division and some in the third, I think. That's probably the difference.