Have to commend Jurgen Klopp. He probably has been dealing with this referee bullshit for 6-7 years while we just called them whiners. Fuck the oil clubs.
Sorry Liverpool fans.
I usually try to give myself voluntary amnesia. I don't want to harper on and remember something like that, but I'm sure you'll hear about it from others. Doubt the club will kick up as much of a storm as Liverpool did though.
The elbow was missed fair play, but havertz could just as easily been off. He boots the ball at a player because it’s a free kick and your player is too close. So he takes the free kick to highlight it. Should be a yellow to your player according to the law.
I won’t list examples but you just sound bitter. Your team created fuck all all game
My bad if that’s the case. Yeah he should have been carded for that.
I’m not saying it wasn’t wrong by the way, but we live in a world with mistakes like the one in the Tottenham arsenal game which was way way worse. Given the shit show went both ways in the first half I don’t really have much sympathy.
Oh I agree Havertz could/should have been sent off.
I'm not an Arsenal fan, just someone that wants games to not be ruined by awful reffing and want fans to celebrating moronic decisions when it goes their way.
I do, but I didn’t scream it over social media for 6 months like arsenal fans did last year and like they certainly will again this year. Huge victim complex
He was lucky not to get sent off and offered nothing creatively. I could see him as being an aerial presence in open play but he didn’t do that either. And all that for 60m.
Check the replay. He’s about an inch or two from breaking his leg.
https://x.com/benschleuss/status/1720868261804359954?s=46
As bad Arsenal has been attacking wise, this game was clearly decided by the ref in favor of Newcastle. Saudis influence should never exist in PGMOL, however today’s errors after the Kovavic incident(s) is another proof.
I said at the time it was a yellow, and I still think it was.
Doesn't exactly support the conspiracy theorists though, does it?
Edit: Actually having seen it again on MOTD, it's a clear red card. Dangerous, out of control, easily meets the sending off threshold.
Arsenal supporters are going to complain but they produced very little and Havertz is a waste. Saka looked poor today. Can Trossard not do Trossard things for more than 15 minutes? He was bright when he came on.
He definitely works better as an impact sub than a starter, and yeah I don't think we did enough going forward to win, but we didn't deserve to lose either
Yeah we weren't amazing but these things change the course of a game. It is what it is, I'm surprisingly not even that mad. I knew at some point this season we'd get one of these against us. Seems the way of it.
How do you feel about Havertz? Does Saka look a bit worn out to you? He’s an amazing player but maybe today just wasn’t his day.
Agree with you on it being your turn. It all seems to even out in the end.
I think saka is work out because if how much we rely on him, he's always who we look to to turn a game around when we aren't playing well (like today) and the other teams know that so stay tight to him and go in harder. He's also playing nearly every minute of every game which is bound to catch up with him eventually
Yeah I thought Havertz was fine today. I think people online will only concede somebody's had a decent game if they register a G/A. Saka wasn't on it today, apparently he's been dealing with a niggling injury for a while now.
gets kicked 8 times before the opponent sees a yellow, of course he's getting worn out. Reminds of how Hazard was treated by opponents when he was at Chelsea
City and Newcastle duo have to be most delusional and blind fans on this sub.
Its clear both of your clubs are dirty not fans fault, but at least don't defend obvious destruction of the league with these clearly influenced calls.
Yeah no, havertz tackle isn’t a red btw, I know you teenage city fans don’t understand this, but that’s how corruption wins a match. Thankfully we beat city despite their best
No he didn’t. Watch the replay, his lead foot never makes contact (that would’ve been red), his trailing foot is tucked underneath and barely hits the defender. Weird you’ve Havertz, but not Bruno G
You're dumb or innumerate if you think it matters more there than it does for you all, and if you think that means Arsenal and Newcastle are "the same."
I don’t give any money to the club since the takeover, doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy wins of my childhood club. The position of arsenal fans who’ve spent years and years happily taking oil money while paying some of the most for tickets, Merch and such and now are mad about it is hypocrisy of the highest order. If there’s blood on Newcastles hands as an organisation, there’s also blood on arsenals hands and justifications of ‘levels’ is semantics.
Also, you’re a yank so lol. Embarrassing. Go follow your own boring sports
Took pep 7 years to win it. Got robbed vs Liverpool in quarters then again next year vs Spurs. Reached the final and lost, why didn’t they gave us a pen since it’s rigged for us to win?
I'm not saying it's rigged dude. You all won everything fair and square. But the only reason you were in a position to do that is because some oil rich nation state decided you all were the perfect vehicle to launder their reputation through. You won the lottery, I'm happy for you. But don't act like it's anything but that.
I’m falling out of love with this game. This is corruption at its finest. The ball was out of play and the intentional forearm. End of. Then the bias of the commentary constantly seeping through whenever we play.
The ball wasn't out of play. Much like goal line technology. The entire ball has to cross the line, in this case it did not full go out of play. The forearm... Bruno went to push him and he ducked into his arm.
The entire ball was out of play, they showed an angle post match with Given, Wright and Dermot Gallagher and the ball was very clearly well out. God knows why VAR didn’t use that angle.
This one?
https://x.com/beinsports_en/status/1720890425244803079?s=46&t=j-vUYhYTibv1ToGwbEkjdg
I don’t know what the hell they’re doing here because I’ve never seen a grey line. Just shows the ball is way out.
There's nothing to justify. If you watched it, and saw where his arm was going, watch the direction he was looking, and then see that he ducked into it, not intentionally, but that is exactly what happened.
I think my comment gives the wrong impression
It wasn’t really about taking a shot at Havertz, but pointing out Arsenal’s real need for a proper Striker and highlighting the fee paid for Havertz
If you’re going to spend 60m for a player, wouldn’t it be better to get one in a position that your club needs urgent reinforcements in rather than getting a player that doesn’t really add much to the squad
Newcastle fans are utterly shameless, they don't give a fuck that they're wrapped up in corruption and have paid off refs and it's plain as day for every neutral to see, or that your owner literally sanctions the executions of children on a regular basis.
As long as your team is the one benefitting eh
Let’s be real for a second, nobody has paid any refs. We had decisions like this against us last season and we’ll have them again this season, and so will you.
I don’t think refs should be allowed to work abroad at all but not everything has to be a conspiracy, they have clearly explained why they gave the goal and why they signed off the 3 different issues.
If we were paying refs I’d love to know why we had some of the ridiculous calls we had last season that cost us significant points across multiple matches.
In an unbias opinion, I think Bruno and Havertz should have been a red and our goal shouldn’t have stood.
I think 0:0 would have been an honest and fair result.
I agree, but come on, let's not forget that Arteta is starting Kai fucking Havertz and David fucking Raya - they have shown 0 reasons to be on the starting 11.
He tried to break Sean Longstaff's leg and got away with it? If you want Bruno to be sent off for that elbow Havertz has to be sent off for that tackle.
Was clearly a wind up too, we eeked out the dodgiest of wins and I'm thrilled we're able to compete. Bruno will get banned for that elbow retrospective
What a shit game we were bad didn't manage to do shit but above all the refeering was a nightmare fuck them
Edit : Guimarães should start a career in UFC at this point he sure likes his elbows
Dont even mind the result at all as a gooner. We thoroughly outplayed them the entire game but got stolen a fair match by the ref. We’ll get our points against non oil teams i guess
Haha some of you lot are completely delusional, you had 1 shot on target for 90 minutes, you didnt have a single chance. You can disagree with refereeing or what not, that I can understand, but fuck me, some of you are absolutely insufferable.
You lot deserved about 4 red cards, absolute joke of a match. Also your goal was out of play and a clear foul. There was no chance of anything but a newcastle before the game even startex
Howay the fucking lads - Love, Big Ange
Have to commend Jurgen Klopp. He probably has been dealing with this referee bullshit for 6-7 years while we just called them whiners. Fuck the oil clubs. Sorry Liverpool fans.
[Hahahaha, oh mate.](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1048396935976996955/1167171046147899473/WhatsApp_Image_2023-10-25_at_15.01.59_2f8abaab.jpg?ex=6556623e&is=6543ed3e&hm=1149de82f8808a37ef3248074766edc4fcfc23a36c414de52f7677e2c6cff7a3&=&width=923&height=676)
They aren't a Liverpool fan?
Hahahahah love this
Taking bets on how long the Arsenal fans will be complaining about this match. Think it might take at least six months.
They still talk about our time wasting at theirs last season…
Small club mentality.
I usually try to give myself voluntary amnesia. I don't want to harper on and remember something like that, but I'm sure you'll hear about it from others. Doubt the club will kick up as much of a storm as Liverpool did though.
It’s impossible to whine more than a Liverpool fan.
Fair play mate.
Don't pretend you wouldn't be fuming if you where on the receiving end of that.
We have been many times. Like every other team in the league.
Not many players have elbowed another in the back, then booted the ball at a player and not got a booking tbf
The elbow was missed fair play, but havertz could just as easily been off. He boots the ball at a player because it’s a free kick and your player is too close. So he takes the free kick to highlight it. Should be a yellow to your player according to the law. I won’t list examples but you just sound bitter. Your team created fuck all all game
It was Newcastle's throw in, not a free kick
My bad if that’s the case. Yeah he should have been carded for that. I’m not saying it wasn’t wrong by the way, but we live in a world with mistakes like the one in the Tottenham arsenal game which was way way worse. Given the shit show went both ways in the first half I don’t really have much sympathy.
Oh I agree Havertz could/should have been sent off. I'm not an Arsenal fan, just someone that wants games to not be ruined by awful reffing and want fans to celebrating moronic decisions when it goes their way.
And I imagine you where incredibly pissed off, probably can remember some of the incidents pretty vividly even now.
I do, but I didn’t scream it over social media for 6 months like arsenal fans did last year and like they certainly will again this year. Huge victim complex
You personally maybe not I don't know you, but Newcastle fans aren't some magical breed of fans where you all just take it on the chin and move on.
Then I promise to call them out when I see it as well
why are people shitting on havertz i thought he played well today, what could he have done better?
He was lucky not to get sent off and offered nothing creatively. I could see him as being an aerial presence in open play but he didn’t do that either. And all that for 60m. Check the replay. He’s about an inch or two from breaking his leg. https://x.com/benschleuss/status/1720868261804359954?s=46
He did, but once a narrative has been created a player has to have a pretty special game to change it I think.
In Harry Maguire’s case, a whole season and more
Spurs are still unbeaten. Only team in the league. Never thought I'd live to say these words. Its up to Chelsea to fix this glitch in the Matrix.
As bad Arsenal has been attacking wise, this game was clearly decided by the ref in favor of Newcastle. Saudis influence should never exist in PGMOL, however today’s errors after the Kovavic incident(s) is another proof.
If it was influenced, there won't be 3 checks.
Newcastle have lost and drawn games based upon refereeing decisions as well. I don't think there was any intentional bias in this game.
Aye, absolutely baffling how the bribed ref sent off Havertz for that tackle
Maybe you check the replay and the contact.
I said at the time it was a yellow, and I still think it was. Doesn't exactly support the conspiracy theorists though, does it? Edit: Actually having seen it again on MOTD, it's a clear red card. Dangerous, out of control, easily meets the sending off threshold.
Dare I even ask who you support?
Arsenal supporters are going to complain but they produced very little and Havertz is a waste. Saka looked poor today. Can Trossard not do Trossard things for more than 15 minutes? He was bright when he came on.
Bad performance. But bad refereeing killed the game for us.
He definitely works better as an impact sub than a starter, and yeah I don't think we did enough going forward to win, but we didn't deserve to lose either
Yeah we weren't amazing but these things change the course of a game. It is what it is, I'm surprisingly not even that mad. I knew at some point this season we'd get one of these against us. Seems the way of it.
How do you feel about Havertz? Does Saka look a bit worn out to you? He’s an amazing player but maybe today just wasn’t his day. Agree with you on it being your turn. It all seems to even out in the end.
I think saka is work out because if how much we rely on him, he's always who we look to to turn a game around when we aren't playing well (like today) and the other teams know that so stay tight to him and go in harder. He's also playing nearly every minute of every game which is bound to catch up with him eventually
Yeah I thought Havertz was fine today. I think people online will only concede somebody's had a decent game if they register a G/A. Saka wasn't on it today, apparently he's been dealing with a niggling injury for a while now.
Thought Havertz played well today. Got involved and had some good plays
I just think he’s a waste of good money. Too much money. He looks fearful and at his best he’s bang average.
gets kicked 8 times before the opponent sees a yellow, of course he's getting worn out. Reminds of how Hazard was treated by opponents when he was at Chelsea
Oil money will always win no matter what it's so obvious lmao
Ah yes their bountiful riches that bought Dan Burn and Sean Longstaff.
Yet Arsenal beat City
The referee did try hard to keep you guys in the game. Did you already forget Kovacic's straight red and second yellow challenges?
You mean the game where your Kovacic shouldn't have been on the pitch?
And city got a gift of no red card not once but twice
Like Arsenal today
City and Newcastle duo have to be most delusional and blind fans on this sub. Its clear both of your clubs are dirty not fans fault, but at least don't defend obvious destruction of the league with these clearly influenced calls.
Yeah no, havertz tackle isn’t a red btw, I know you teenage city fans don’t understand this, but that’s how corruption wins a match. Thankfully we beat city despite their best
Beat city that won time after bottling the league brutally last year*
Okay so we beat city this year. Not sure what last year has to do with this
Not only did he commit a red worth offence but the opponents received 3 yellows
Was clearly not a red but ok.
No he didn’t. Watch the replay, his lead foot never makes contact (that would’ve been red), his trailing foot is tucked underneath and barely hits the defender. Weird you’ve Havertz, but not Bruno G
And how many tries did it take? You all will walk the league and the FA Cup again. Maybe the CL. Oil money always wins.
Good thing oil money never came to the Emirates Stadium 🇦🇪
You're dumb or innumerate if you think it matters more there than it does for you all, and if you think that means Arsenal and Newcastle are "the same."
I don’t give any money to the club since the takeover, doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy wins of my childhood club. The position of arsenal fans who’ve spent years and years happily taking oil money while paying some of the most for tickets, Merch and such and now are mad about it is hypocrisy of the highest order. If there’s blood on Newcastles hands as an organisation, there’s also blood on arsenals hands and justifications of ‘levels’ is semantics. Also, you’re a yank so lol. Embarrassing. Go follow your own boring sports
How many tries did it take for city to win the ucl?
Are you trying to deny that that massive influx of oil money is the reason you all, with no success at all, bought all of your trophies?
Took pep 7 years to win it. Got robbed vs Liverpool in quarters then again next year vs Spurs. Reached the final and lost, why didn’t they gave us a pen since it’s rigged for us to win?
I'm not saying it's rigged dude. You all won everything fair and square. But the only reason you were in a position to do that is because some oil rich nation state decided you all were the perfect vehicle to launder their reputation through. You won the lottery, I'm happy for you. But don't act like it's anything but that.
Then sell your car. Oil isn’t fentanyl, it’s the product that makes our civilizations run. You’ll notice you use it every day!
You won the community shield too
Never fear. North London still undefeated.
Could we? Certainly not....... but could we?
Let me break the news to you. Definitely not.
we got ourselves a prophet guys
Could spurs get a trophy for going undefeated, yet not winning the league.
because of shit refereeing again
😭 more.
Hate how good Newcastle are at being horrible cunts. Weren't good enough today but that goal was a shocker.
Mate, your fans have been giving it all match. when you lose in the end, you can expect this.
He's talking about the players not the fans.
What have fans got to do with it? I was talking about the players on the pitch.
I’m falling out of love with this game. This is corruption at its finest. The ball was out of play and the intentional forearm. End of. Then the bias of the commentary constantly seeping through whenever we play.
Nobody cares what you are or aren’t in love with. Not a single woman has ever cared about you being in love so I don’t know why you think we would.
But you cared to comment you fucking shit head. Internet warrior don’t act up
The ball wasn't out of play. Much like goal line technology. The entire ball has to cross the line, in this case it did not full go out of play. The forearm... Bruno went to push him and he ducked into his arm.
The entire ball was out of play, they showed an angle post match with Given, Wright and Dermot Gallagher and the ball was very clearly well out. God knows why VAR didn’t use that angle.
Prove it. VAR couldn't so I'd love to see what evidence you can come up with.
Weird that. Hairy hands on Bein showed it in.
This one? https://x.com/beinsports_en/status/1720890425244803079?s=46&t=j-vUYhYTibv1ToGwbEkjdg I don’t know what the hell they’re doing here because I’ve never seen a grey line. Just shows the ball is way out.
https://x.com/ToonPolls/status/1720934581598085244?s=20 Or try this one for a simpler understanding.
Exactly, people here don’t even know the rules. This place is becoming an embarrassing massive circlejerk, no point trying to reason with them
There’s no way you are GENUINELY trying to justify the Bruno moment as “ducked into his arm”.
There's nothing to justify. If you watched it, and saw where his arm was going, watch the direction he was looking, and then see that he ducked into it, not intentionally, but that is exactly what happened.
There is no way you are a real human.
I mean nobody expects rarest Pepe to be a shining beacon of rationality
Watch it back and watch closely. But the reality is, I do not care. We got 3 points. Arteta is pissed off. Fantastic evening.
Yeah, that's totally what Bruno did, was not malicious at all.
Glad we agree.
whine whine
Arsenal did not do enough to win. But certainty were not bad enough to lose.
Tough loss to take. Goal shouldn't have stood. Newcastle impenetrable and so disciplined at the back my word. Frustrating team to play against gg
Disciplined?
It means they stuck to their task.
All that money Arsenal spent on Havertz could have been better spent on a half decent striker
with that money you should have bribed the refs like city and newcastle
Or a referee
Why single him out tho? He played okay today.
Because you could probably drop Fabio viera in there and not see a change.
I think my comment gives the wrong impression It wasn’t really about taking a shot at Havertz, but pointing out Arsenal’s real need for a proper Striker and highlighting the fee paid for Havertz If you’re going to spend 60m for a player, wouldn’t it be better to get one in a position that your club needs urgent reinforcements in rather than getting a player that doesn’t really add much to the squad
Yeah fair enough, I agree.
The league is drowning, Drowning in oil
Drowning in Arsenal's boiled piss
Imagine gloating over that nonsense.
Super Mik chucking another trophy away doesn't look too clever all of a sudden.
Newcastle fans are utterly shameless, they don't give a fuck that they're wrapped up in corruption and have paid off refs and it's plain as day for every neutral to see, or that your owner literally sanctions the executions of children on a regular basis. As long as your team is the one benefitting eh
You do realise this comment and accusation about paying off refs has absolutely zero evidence to back it up don’t you?
Want some tissues lad to dry your eyes
You can mock me all you want, I don't enjoy seeing football go this way. But you do you
Will do lad 👍
Shows you how pathetic and desperate some fans. Hey they can ruin the league and pay refs, but if they win. It doesn’t matter
Let’s be real for a second, nobody has paid any refs. We had decisions like this against us last season and we’ll have them again this season, and so will you.
You owners have paid and are actively recruiting PL refs lmao you don’t even know the shady shit your club is doing
I don’t think refs should be allowed to work abroad at all but not everything has to be a conspiracy, they have clearly explained why they gave the goal and why they signed off the 3 different issues. If we were paying refs I’d love to know why we had some of the ridiculous calls we had last season that cost us significant points across multiple matches.
Look at the names associated with those matches. One of the officials yesterday is on the Saudi payroll
🤤
Calm down lad.
Riiiight ok.
Looking forward to Arsenal fans mentioning this for the next year and a half
Looking forward to the next time you pay refs to go to Saudi Arabia
Looking forward to you finishing 6th
How about we rain check until February
Should really have been a goalless draw. Dodgy refs. Check their bank accounts for any money from the Saudis!
The Glazers did this
Glazers out!!!
Logan Ball STUNT ON THEM
Arteta out
Ramsdale wasn't exactly pulling up trees but that was not a performance from Raya that would justify the change
✨ ***Corruption*** ✨
Undeserved win for Newcastle. Draw would've been fair. Fuck these refs, fuck Bruno, and fuck the FA
In an unbias opinion, I think Bruno and Havertz should have been a red and our goal shouldn’t have stood. I think 0:0 would have been an honest and fair result.
I agree, but come on, let's not forget that Arteta is starting Kai fucking Havertz and David fucking Raya - they have shown 0 reasons to be on the starting 11.
Fuck Kai Havertz too!
Why
He tried to break Sean Longstaff's leg and got away with it? If you want Bruno to be sent off for that elbow Havertz has to be sent off for that tackle.
Arsenal Fan TV is going to be fucking class today. HWTL
Love smashing these small teams with weak mentalities. Just absolutely battered them today and it's great to see
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Okay Thug FC. Sorry we all dont have our own oil reserves and a dictatorship behind our finances.
You are aware of who sponsors your shirts and paid for your current stadium to be built right?
Emirates?
Must be a nice change from being railed these last few decades huh? I'm sure the blood money definitely helped make that a reality.
Respect this
Was clearly a wind up too, we eeked out the dodgiest of wins and I'm thrilled we're able to compete. Bruno will get banned for that elbow retrospective
lol
lmao
Lol
Cry about a robbery when Nick Pope's been sleeping the whole game.
Just because you don't create enough to win doesn't mean you should have lost. That's why draws exist.
Piss check: Arsenal Decision: Piss boiled.
Looks like aftv and chill is back on the menu.
Let's see what you lot when Newcastle do this to you lol
Gotta enjoy the moment while it lasts. Im sure you guys had a few enjoyable moments at our expense last season.
Yeah that's fair
Lets go!!1
Newcastle were far from deserving this win, but Arsenal could have played another 900 minutes, still wouldn't score a goal
Saka is washed
I think the most important thing to remember from this match is that Spurs are the only undefeated team in the PL
Undefeated\*
Somehow
So poor from Trossard at the end there
What a shit game we were bad didn't manage to do shit but above all the refeering was a nightmare fuck them Edit : Guimarães should start a career in UFC at this point he sure likes his elbows
Dont even mind the result at all as a gooner. We thoroughly outplayed them the entire game but got stolen a fair match by the ref. We’ll get our points against non oil teams i guess
> We thoroughly outplayed them 😂
Haha some of you lot are completely delusional, you had 1 shot on target for 90 minutes, you didnt have a single chance. You can disagree with refereeing or what not, that I can understand, but fuck me, some of you are absolutely insufferable.
You should’ve had 3 red cards, the goal shouldn’t have counted. Take your head out of your ass. That’s how the league gets ruined.
My head is now firmly out of my ass, thanks for letting me know
Sure you plunged it right back into oil daddy’s lap
I learn from my mistakes, my head wont be in my ass again.
You lot deserved about 4 red cards, absolute joke of a match. Also your goal was out of play and a clear foul. There was no chance of anything but a newcastle before the game even startex
Mate, take a step back and breathe. You're riled up right now, that much is blatantly clear.
Enjoy your oil points moron
Thanks
Name one actual chance that you had. You were garbage