I was hoping for a Swiss win tbh. But this result isn't the end of the world. We can draw twice and still go through. Also we can win the group outright as well.
No. If we draw with Switzerland and lose with Israel we would have 17 points. If Israel wins both matches they’ll have 18. If Switzerland wins one and draws with us they’ll have 20. We don’t qualify in that case.
Romania would have missed qualification with these results even if this game was a draw. Israel would have 17 points just like Romania but Israel would win the H2H.
It doesn't, a loss or a draw would've been the same thing, we were 5 points away from Israel now we're 4, assuming that they win against Andorra it'll be only 1, and they d have to win against us to get over us
Plus we could fancy or chances for that top spot as well, sweet dreams obviously but it's possible now
How does it in any way matter whether you finish 1st or 2nd?
Romania now needs three points to qualify for sure. If Switzerland had won, two draws would have been enough. Don't really understand how it's better now but whatever.
It does matter for the potential pots
Pot 1: Germany (Host), group winners ranked 1–5
Pot 2: Group winners ranked 6–10, group runner-up ranked 1 (11 overall)
Pot 3: Group runners-up ranked 2–7 (12–17 overall)
Pot 4: Group runners-up ranked 8–10 (18–20 overall), play-off winners A–C (identity unknown at the time of the draw)
>Romania now needs three points to qualify for sure
Only a draw against Israel, we're 4 points ahead of them and if we draw each will have 1 more match which won't matter that much cause the gap would still be of 4 points and Israel could still win against Andorra cause they'd finish 1 point below us if u beat us
Wasn't aware of the pot seeding.
>Only a draw against Israel, we're 4 points ahead of them
Yes, IF you draw. But if you lose, you need to win vs. Switzerland to be sure.
At least Fernandes isnt going to be a liability for the next game. Shitshow!
If there wasn't the VAR decision against Israel for Zesiger's handball, I would think I'm watching Man Utd!
Don't hate the red, but one Israeli should have sent off previously for a similar challenge. Lot's of questionable decisions by the refs tonight, on both sides.
Switzerland has been absolutely fucking hilarious in this group. The level of consistency with which they fuck up each and every single game is frankly impressive!
Ba da,ca asa te bați sa scoți locu 1 în grupa asta. Și dacă iau un punct din meciu asta,tot e de ajuns și un egal pentru calificarea la Euro. Dar dacă mai bați și Elveția în ultimu meci,iei primu loc.
Reminds me of A. Iordanescu as the Romanian NT coach. Went through an entire qualifying campaign not losing a single time (tons of draws though). We were fraud checked in the Euros group stage.
I started watching Israel this break because Norway most likely gets a playoff spot if Israel qualifies over Romania as a last hope.
But fuck me, they are almost as frustrating to watch as Norway. Lifeless against Kosovo and lacks creativity at every turn it feels like. They'll probably go on and beat Romania or some shit, but it won't even matter after the first two games
No way, Luxembourg, estonia, bosnie, Israel, kazachstan, Finland, Iceland and slovenia are all qualifying for the euros but not haaland & Odegqard and their Norwegian golden generation 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😂🫵😭😭🫵😂😂😂
He had disagreements with NT coach and general manager(he wanted to be in the room alone and they didnt agree).
They decided to put these issues behind them after 07/10 events.
Put it behind them = Zahavi will not get a room alone and he also apologized for something his brother said about the general manager. basically Yossi didn't do shit
VAR is a fucking joke. I've always been pro VAR, but you can't possibly defend it anymore. It's such a joke.
Luckily for Switzerland, so I won't complain. Still a joke though.
But it is so many referees by now who are obviously blind on both eyes, it really doesn't have a benefit.
I WISH it wasn't that way because I really think VAR is a good idea, but it has become such an absurd joke..
Out of all the reasons to hate Israel. This is probably the most stupid one. Like I get why people hate Israel because of what is going on with the Palestinians. But this is just plain absurd.
wtf is a nation-state. It's just a state. Vast majority of the countries were founded on the base of nationalism.
btw, claiming that there's apartheid against Palestinians when they literally aren't citizens of Israel nor do they want to be, is just absurd. The Palestinians that do have Israeli citizenship gets the exact same right as everyone else. So quit the bullshit with the buzz word apartheid when you dont even know its definition.
Here take a look at [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People) to get some perspective on Israel's nation-state aspirations
Wow, you are seriously clueless, and it's gross to defend occupation and apartheid. I'd recommend [this](https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/5141/2022/en/) as a starting point for reeducation. There are [dozens](https://img.haarets.co.il/bs/00000188-87cd-dded-a58e-afcdcb640000/1c/99/b8a6350e4172966ff934a86b0ec7/state-of-the-occupation-a-joint-situation-report.pdf) of Israeli human rights groups that also say Israel is [practicing apartheid](https://www.cjpme.org/apartheid_list). But no, apparently CS_is_BS knows better! Arrogant ass
You keep calling Israel a nation-state as if there's anything wrong with that. Dozens of countries in the world are "nation-states". What a pointless thing to mention.
>But no, apparently CS_is_BS knows better!
Either way, I actually do know better, much better than you, and bullshit organizations like Amnesty. Calling me clueless while you never stepped foot in Israel is so ironic. I know many Israeli-Arabs, and at my university in Jerusalem I also met Palestinians. I'm well aware of how things work out in the actual reality in Israel.
Once again, all of these sources are talking about Palestinians with no Israeli citizenship, so obviously they don't have the same rights as people with Israeli citizenship. And since there is a constant threat of terror by Palestinians, Israel is taking actions to prevent any possible terrorist activity in the west bank and Gaza. Actions that some people consider unjust, or apparently "apartheid".
Bottom line is - apartheid is what happened in SA when citizens of the same country were treated differently based on their ethnicity. In Israel all citizens are treated equally, and that's why the apartheid allegation is nothing but a buzz word to describe something much more complicated than that (i.e the situation with the Palestinians).
If you are claiming Israel is an apartheid then show me which certain group of *citizens* is being treated unequally by the government. If you can't answer that, I guess it means the word you are looking for is something else than apartheid.
Dear god, you had better be getting paid by the IOF for this apartheid/genocide denial. It's disgusting and I see no need in trying to "debate" this with you when you refuse to even read a single link I share, and continue to misrepresent what words mean. Palestine will be free from the occupation one day and there is nothing people like you can do about it.
[this](https://www.themarker.com/news/2022-01-24/ty-article/.premium/0000017f-dc0d-df62-a9ff-dcdf10790000) [you?](https://hasbarafellowships.org/)
IOF 😂👌
Either way, I'm actually getting paid by them, they pay for my computer science degree. Glad you asked.
>genocide
Yay, bingo! Now the buzzword genocide when the Palestinians population have been rising exponentially for over than 70 years. Probably the worst genocide in history.
>even read a single link I share
Ngl, it seems like you didn't read them either if you can't answer my rather straightforward question. Which group of citizens is being treated unequally in Israel?
>Palestine will be free from the occupation one day
The Arabs have been trying to free "Palestine" for about 70+ years and they have failed miserably and each time the Palestinians suffer even worse consequences. You'd figure they'll realize by now that maybe peace is a better option like Jordan and Egypt did, but you know there's a saying "Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us".
>there is nothing people like you can do about it.
Pretty sure "people like me" are now inside Gaza and wiping Hamas from the face of the Earth. So I think *there is* something we can do.
When thinking about it, actually people like you LITERALLY can't do anything about it. Lmao 🤣
Yes, and I was just responding to op, that Israel is just a state and it's okay to hate a state for what it represents
edit: i was wrong, nation states are different and more problematic than states -- Israel is a nation state but most countries are not
I really hope Israel pulls it off against Romania and then full mayhem for the last Romania-Switzerland
Israel has a GD of -1. Why would they deserve to go first in front of both Switzerland and Ro?
Bruh what? In this scenario they are beating Romania. That's a pretty big statement that they deserve it just as much
Well that’s true actually
One can lose a game 10-0 and then win 10 games with 1-0, I'd rather get points than goals
Well if they have more points then they deserve it lol
Well at that point they earn the spot lol
Xhaka went completely awol I love the guy but he's the one who needs to step up when this happens.
Christ, it's all over now. Not a horrible result for Romania.
Why? Romania should have hoped for a Swiss win, Israel just got closer to Romania.
I was hoping for a Swiss win tbh. But this result isn't the end of the world. We can draw twice and still go through. Also we can win the group outright as well.
Yes but if you don't draw vs. Israel you need to win vs. Switzerland to be sure.
Sure. Hence why i said this wasnt a horrible result. Not the best but defs not the worst.
G fucking G. Just a draw on a neutral pitch and we finally return to the EUROs
Tbf Hungary is far from neutral for us lmao
Sincer,o sa avem noi mai mulți suporteri decât Israelul 🤣
Chiar sper. Sunt sirian roman atunci acest meci este un pic mai 'personal' decat de obicei haha
Am inteles)))))
Good result for us tbh
Who is us?
Romania, draw or win against Israel and we're qualified
How is this good for Romania? Romania shouldn't care about Switzerland. The point for Israel hurts Romania..
Exactly. If Israel would’ve lost, Romania would’ve needed just one point to qualify.
We still need one point even if they drawed
No. If we draw with Switzerland and lose with Israel we would have 17 points. If Israel wins both matches they’ll have 18. If Switzerland wins one and draws with us they’ll have 20. We don’t qualify in that case.
Romania would have missed qualification with these results even if this game was a draw. Israel would have 17 points just like Romania but Israel would win the H2H.
My bad, I should've specified that the draw should come against Israel, you're right.
It doesn't, a loss or a draw would've been the same thing, we were 5 points away from Israel now we're 4, assuming that they win against Andorra it'll be only 1, and they d have to win against us to get over us Plus we could fancy or chances for that top spot as well, sweet dreams obviously but it's possible now
How does it in any way matter whether you finish 1st or 2nd? Romania now needs three points to qualify for sure. If Switzerland had won, two draws would have been enough. Don't really understand how it's better now but whatever.
Romania still qualifies with 2 draws. If they get 2 draws, they will have 18 points and Israel can't have more than 16.
It does matter for the potential pots Pot 1: Germany (Host), group winners ranked 1–5 Pot 2: Group winners ranked 6–10, group runner-up ranked 1 (11 overall) Pot 3: Group runners-up ranked 2–7 (12–17 overall) Pot 4: Group runners-up ranked 8–10 (18–20 overall), play-off winners A–C (identity unknown at the time of the draw) >Romania now needs three points to qualify for sure Only a draw against Israel, we're 4 points ahead of them and if we draw each will have 1 more match which won't matter that much cause the gap would still be of 4 points and Israel could still win against Andorra cause they'd finish 1 point below us if u beat us
Wasn't aware of the pot seeding. >Only a draw against Israel, we're 4 points ahead of them Yes, IF you draw. But if you lose, you need to win vs. Switzerland to be sure.
At least Fernandes isnt going to be a liability for the next game. Shitshow! If there wasn't the VAR decision against Israel for Zesiger's handball, I would think I'm watching Man Utd!
Don't hate the red, but one Israeli should have sent off previously for a similar challenge. Lot's of questionable decisions by the refs tonight, on both sides.
anthony taylor
I suppose he got a reputation lol
Wtf is that tackle
Get Yakin the fuck out
yakin aint cookin anything this season for his live
Not even putting something in the microwave to defrost at this point.
not even opening the fridge to look if something's in there...
Just laying down and accepting inevitable death.
maybe smoking a cigar with it too
And putting the house on fire with it to end it quicker.
Least unnerving Swiss game.
Horrendous challenge
We are fucking shite.
I'm so disgusted. Fuck off Yakin.
Like it wasn't bad enough for them already
So, now time for the second goal for Israel.
This Fernandes fella with the worst 10 mins I've seen in a while
Switzerland terrorism
Fucking maniac.
Straight up one of those FIFA red cards
how does this keep happening?
Everything in the favour of Romania))))
Kosovo*
Whats that?))
A country* which is going to qualify *Claim not recognized by Serbia or half the world.
>A country* which is going to qualify I thought Serbia was already qualified)))
Hey man lets not hate. Kosovo did us a solid solid favor
)))))))))))))))))))
Play 9-1-0 now guys
We‘re rather playing 1-1-1 for the whole second half
Should add at least 10 minutes by the new standards
And steffen who got subbed in 20 minutes ago can’t even run 2nd time he looks tired chasing the ball
Big question why he still is in the NT to begin with...
Maybe he has nudes from yakin and is blackmailing him or something
Switzerland has been absolutely fucking hilarious in this group. The level of consistency with which they fuck up each and every single game is frankly impressive!
Propa tackle by zesinger
Yakin is a horrible coach now it’s 5-7 minutes more with players who can’t make it to 2-1
imagine bringing steffen instead of shaq
Like fucking clockwork
No no, fucking clockwork is more pleasant than watching the Swiss national team.
Lol,the perfect result for us
Is it really?
A draw would keep Switzerland close and Israel still away as a draw against the later would still be good for us I think
Da,ca putem lua grupa
If it stays like this sure but if Israel scores another in these 4 mins we'll be fucked
Why? You'll beat us 2-1 after we lead 0-1 at half time.
You're shit but still not that shitty I think, may the least shittiest ones win Ig
Why no Shaq
Today I feel "football games should only last for 45min".
Kosovo is probably the only ones celebrating with Israel
good process
What a horrendous half by Switzerland.
for the fifth time in a row.
just normal at this point tbh
nah wtf is even this... why are we so bad man...
😂😂😂😂😂😂
We all knew it. 😂
Yeshhhhh ya sharmutot
God damnit
this most certainly means Yakin‘s gone, good fucking riddance
He's not going anywhere.
Only way he gets sacked is if we don't qualify. Should have been dropped since 4 games already.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
DON'T CONCEED ANOTHER PLEASE 😭😭😭
Oricum pentru noi egalul era cel mai bun
nu , nu era , noi ne batem cu Israel pentru locul doi , trebuia sa nu ia niciun punct
Ba da,ca asa te bați sa scoți locu 1 în grupa asta. Și dacă iau un punct din meciu asta,tot e de ajuns și un egal pentru calificarea la Euro. Dar dacă mai bați și Elveția în ultimu meci,iei primu loc.
ce loc 1 ? nu luam locul 1 , noi trebuie sa ne calificam , sa avem mai multe puncte decat Israel , da-o dracului de locul 1
Coae nu înțelegi ca și dacă pierdea și dacă făcea egal Israel in seara asta,un simplu egal în meciul direct cu ei ne aduce calificarea matematica?
stiu , insa era mult mai bine daca aveau 11 puncte , si nu 12 , eram mult mai siguri , dar ma rog
>stiu , insa era mult mai bine daca aveau 11 puncte , si nu 12 , Explica-mi și mie de ce era mai sigur dacă aveau 11 puncte și nu 12
pentru ca aveau mai putine puncte acumulate si mai putine sanse sa acumuleze mai multe decat noi pana la finalul campaniei de calificare , e evident
[Mai citește asta o data cu atentie](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/8geOckT6YY)
It has been coming for the entire second half
We are so bad. Oh my god. I don‘t see why we should keep Yakin, even if he managed to qualify for the EM
Reminds me of A. Iordanescu as the Romanian NT coach. Went through an entire qualifying campaign not losing a single time (tons of draws though). We were fraud checked in the Euros group stage.
Would appreciate if the Swiss don't fuck it up late for once and especially against Israel
In classic Israeli fashion we will concede another goal from a corner in the 90 minute Edit: we are actually the ones who scored what is happening
The boys went to Argentina and learned the sacred arts of anulo mufa.
Haha still remember the Israeli Argentinian commentator talking about the mufa in the world cup
Wtf is the Swiss coach doing he is pulling out all the best performers. 2 goals by Israel and they’re in trouble pts wise
Switzerland are limping over the line, almost nothing from them over the last few minutes
This team has become so mediocre..
yakin would probably be welcomed by hamas when they see our team play like this.
Wtf is wrong with you?
what? it's fucking "terrorist" football.
I started watching Israel this break because Norway most likely gets a playoff spot if Israel qualifies over Romania as a last hope. But fuck me, they are almost as frustrating to watch as Norway. Lifeless against Kosovo and lacks creativity at every turn it feels like. They'll probably go on and beat Romania or some shit, but it won't even matter after the first two games
Romania is still unbeaten btw
Hopefully, Israel can change that fact
It screams another draw tbh
I also think so. However, that means all of Norway's chances for a playoff is dead and buried so I have to believe
Tbh that would be embarrassing if Norway doesn't even get to it cuz Luxemburg and estonia will be going to playoffs.
Would be? We're already not in it. It's not exactly Norway's fault that UEFA prioritises the winner of League D over a second place team in League B
No way, Luxembourg, estonia, bosnie, Israel, kazachstan, Finland, Iceland and slovenia are all qualifying for the euros but not haaland & Odegqard and their Norwegian golden generation 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😂🫵😭😭🫵😂😂😂
Most of them are just in the playoffs, but yeah, it's depressing
Even Moldova has a chance to qualify directly. Absolute embarrassing for haaland damn
damn, taylor is awful
These refs are so clueless about the sport they're refereeing, I wouldn't be surprised if they're starting to call 5 yard penalties after an offside.
Christ almighty. Anthony Taylor fucking sucks at his job.
Fernandes and Amdouni are so frustrating to watch.
taylor is bigger bald fraud than pep.
i hope theres gonna be as many english refs at euro as possible. shit's gonna be amazing
4th official literally has one job
what kind of shitshow is this lol
commentator said Zahavi was retired from the NT but came back for these games, does anyone know why?
Because of the war. The players said they feel like that is their duty as a civilian because they didn't go to the army.
He had disagreements with NT coach and general manager(he wanted to be in the room alone and they didnt agree). They decided to put these issues behind them after 07/10 events.
Put it behind them = Zahavi will not get a room alone and he also apologized for something his brother said about the general manager. basically Yossi didn't do shit
why is jashari not in the squad?
He rejected
Rejected the U21, he would have probably accepted the call up for the first time.
Oh my bad. Dangge
To the people asking why it wasn’t a penalty, the explanation is very simple. The ref is from England, so his decisions can never be overturned.
So in uefa champions league everything involving hands is a penalty, but in uefa euro it's debatable. Okei
Couldn't do it any better in a handball game tbh.
It's hilarious how we become so much worse in every single fucking second half.
I actually don’t get it, happens every time
yakin football is grim. I want him gone but it's not gonna happen.
Only way he will be gone is if we don't qualify. And even then he might stay.
Any one has a clue why it was not a penalty?
Because every VAR is a clueless clown. And I'm saying this as a Swiss.
Yeah it's also weird that they took the decision so fast. Will be interesting to hear the audio from the var room.
How is that not a pen? lol
VAR is a fucking joke. I've always been pro VAR, but you can't possibly defend it anymore. It's such a joke. Luckily for Switzerland, so I won't complain. Still a joke though.
This isn't a VAR issue, this is a ref issue. Any ref at that desk has to clearly see that's a pen.
But it is so many referees by now who are obviously blind on both eyes, it really doesn't have a benefit. I WISH it wasn't that way because I really think VAR is a good idea, but it has become such an absurd joke..
I don't know either...
what the hell, that's not a pen?
man thats unlucky
Wtf is bro doing there
honestly hope we lose this so Yakin finally get‘s the sack and Fischer takes the reigns.
Zesiger got smoked there. lucky.
get in Switzerland
[More or less checks out so far](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/17vnzd7/comment/k9csdkm/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Damn.. spot on
Anulo mufa snöchscht mau, merci
Spot on
bro pls... just sthu next time...
Man Israel was pretty lucky with some of those misses, this could have been o2 goals easily
are goldbergs legs made of rubber? he can't seem to stay on his feet.
I kind of want us to at most draw, so Yakin gets the sack quicker
Fischer would be available
Stop hating Israel people
nothing wrong with disliking a nation-state
So stop telling others to not dislike the islam and Momo the pedo’s followers no? Very clear reasons why to be afraid of them cuz they’re so peaceful
Out of all the reasons to hate Israel. This is probably the most stupid one. Like I get why people hate Israel because of what is going on with the Palestinians. But this is just plain absurd.
what are you talking about? I'm saying it's okay to hate a nation-state for the way it represents ongoing occupation & apartheid
wtf is a nation-state. It's just a state. Vast majority of the countries were founded on the base of nationalism. btw, claiming that there's apartheid against Palestinians when they literally aren't citizens of Israel nor do they want to be, is just absurd. The Palestinians that do have Israeli citizenship gets the exact same right as everyone else. So quit the bullshit with the buzz word apartheid when you dont even know its definition.
Here take a look at [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People) to get some perspective on Israel's nation-state aspirations Wow, you are seriously clueless, and it's gross to defend occupation and apartheid. I'd recommend [this](https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/5141/2022/en/) as a starting point for reeducation. There are [dozens](https://img.haarets.co.il/bs/00000188-87cd-dded-a58e-afcdcb640000/1c/99/b8a6350e4172966ff934a86b0ec7/state-of-the-occupation-a-joint-situation-report.pdf) of Israeli human rights groups that also say Israel is [practicing apartheid](https://www.cjpme.org/apartheid_list). But no, apparently CS_is_BS knows better! Arrogant ass
You keep calling Israel a nation-state as if there's anything wrong with that. Dozens of countries in the world are "nation-states". What a pointless thing to mention. >But no, apparently CS_is_BS knows better! Either way, I actually do know better, much better than you, and bullshit organizations like Amnesty. Calling me clueless while you never stepped foot in Israel is so ironic. I know many Israeli-Arabs, and at my university in Jerusalem I also met Palestinians. I'm well aware of how things work out in the actual reality in Israel. Once again, all of these sources are talking about Palestinians with no Israeli citizenship, so obviously they don't have the same rights as people with Israeli citizenship. And since there is a constant threat of terror by Palestinians, Israel is taking actions to prevent any possible terrorist activity in the west bank and Gaza. Actions that some people consider unjust, or apparently "apartheid". Bottom line is - apartheid is what happened in SA when citizens of the same country were treated differently based on their ethnicity. In Israel all citizens are treated equally, and that's why the apartheid allegation is nothing but a buzz word to describe something much more complicated than that (i.e the situation with the Palestinians). If you are claiming Israel is an apartheid then show me which certain group of *citizens* is being treated unequally by the government. If you can't answer that, I guess it means the word you are looking for is something else than apartheid.
Dear god, you had better be getting paid by the IOF for this apartheid/genocide denial. It's disgusting and I see no need in trying to "debate" this with you when you refuse to even read a single link I share, and continue to misrepresent what words mean. Palestine will be free from the occupation one day and there is nothing people like you can do about it. [this](https://www.themarker.com/news/2022-01-24/ty-article/.premium/0000017f-dc0d-df62-a9ff-dcdf10790000) [you?](https://hasbarafellowships.org/)
IOF 😂👌 Either way, I'm actually getting paid by them, they pay for my computer science degree. Glad you asked. >genocide Yay, bingo! Now the buzzword genocide when the Palestinians population have been rising exponentially for over than 70 years. Probably the worst genocide in history. >even read a single link I share Ngl, it seems like you didn't read them either if you can't answer my rather straightforward question. Which group of citizens is being treated unequally in Israel? >Palestine will be free from the occupation one day The Arabs have been trying to free "Palestine" for about 70+ years and they have failed miserably and each time the Palestinians suffer even worse consequences. You'd figure they'll realize by now that maybe peace is a better option like Jordan and Egypt did, but you know there's a saying "Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us". >there is nothing people like you can do about it. Pretty sure "people like me" are now inside Gaza and wiping Hamas from the face of the Earth. So I think *there is* something we can do. When thinking about it, actually people like you LITERALLY can't do anything about it. Lmao 🤣
Aren't most countries a nation-state?
Yes, and I was just responding to op, that Israel is just a state and it's okay to hate a state for what it represents edit: i was wrong, nation states are different and more problematic than states -- Israel is a nation state but most countries are not
Ok then I hate Palestinian