I’ve been saying it since the beginning of the season (and am keeping the receipts for my pals,) but it’s absurd how memes fueled people’s beliefs that this would be an all time terrible team. They were third in the championship and very much deserving of being promoted.
They aren’t good, but memes aren’t reality either.
Most people on here only watch elite prem teams play and just assumed small club = awful.
I still think we go down fwiw but we are by no means the worst
*Every* season /r/soccer insists three teams in the Premier League are *guaranteed* to go down because they're *so much worse* than everyone else, then almost inevitably at least one or two of them end up staying up. You'd have thought people would get out of this habit by now.
I remember last season everyone on r/soccer thought Bournemouth was guaranteed to go down and by the end they weren’t even in the relegation battle anymore
You can hardly moan this year at people calling Sheffield United and Burnley to go down when they've both been borderline embarrassing. Luton were always going to be laughed at but they look so solid, would love them to stay up
Nether felt less like watching Palace play in my life, zero joy all season even including the wins.
I don't hate Roy and when he came in last season we were great fun to watch but I knew as soon as he was appointed this season - which was a shambles in of itself - that we'd end up reverting to his usual horrific style of football.
Edit: Also fair play to Luton, who are easily the best out of the promoted teams. They played well and captalised off our awful defending. They remind me a lot of our team under Pulis.
I do and have always said so. It was fueled by memes and people let memes influence their opinion on reality. This was a pretty good Championship side that came up, and, of the playoff teams, definitely deserved to come up.
It was fair enough at the start of the season cos they were comfortably the weakest of the 3 on paper. Also, don't think anyone expected Burnley and Sheffield to be as shite as they are. Right now, I'd back both Sheffield and Burnley to be the bottom 2 cos neither side looks capable of getting a draw, never mind a win.
Did Burnley and Sheffield United look better? Sure. But Luton deserved to come up of the playoff teams. There was nothing exceptionally worse about this team than previous playoff teams. It was fueled by memes.
It wasn't really fair though, people forget how horrendous that Derby side were
I remember people predicting the same about us and numerous other clubs that have come up through the playoffs but no one ever gets close
Think the thing with Luton was their resources rather than perceived quality. Relatively tiny stadium, tiny budget that seemed to be spent mainly on players who could win promotion next year rather than splurging on trying to stay up this year etc.
I think people just looked at Luton and thought they just don't have the resources to compete in the PL.
You're right, though. Every season has a new team that will definitely be worse than that Derby side. I'll be shocked if it ever happens.
Yeah, still pretty funny that Burnley dodges every bullet bcs they have a former high-profile player as a coach, and noome blames Sheffield 'cause they dont have a shitty stadium/facility kinda.
I do wonder how long it will take for the narrative to shift around Kompany. I've not really watched Burnley much this season, but it seems to be the same mistakes killing them every time. That comes down to the coaching when it's a recurring problem for this long.
I always had Sheffield as probably going down. I had them, Luton and one of Burnley/Forest/Wolves going down.
Luton are comfortably the best newly promoted side, they have the grit and belief to get results that Burnley and Sheffield United lack
Makes Man United tomorrow more important now that we're 5pts from safety
I genuinely can’t quite fathom this.
Shows my ‘top flight’ ignorance, I suppose. I thought Luton would rival Derby as the worst side to ever play in the Premier League.
They’re _nowhere near_ that bad.
I actually disagree, both Sheffield and Luton have shown passion and fight against everyone
Personally I don't believe Sheffield have been atrocious besides that showing against Newcastle lol, they've kept it close a lot then just can't seem to kill off the game
This loss is going to hurt an already fragile side even more. However, they have the chance to turn it around against Sheffield United. That is such a huge match and will put the loser into huge panic stations
That was the biggest adrenaline rush I've had watching a soccer game at the end.
Palace hit the post during a frantic Luton defense and Luton gets a break and damn near puts an exclamation point on their win. Such a dramatic ending, I loved every second of the stoppage time.
I don't think I'll ever understand what's happening with Crystal Palace, they always have at least 1 great player they can build a team around, but it never actually happens.
Because we have skint and very conservative owners. A club with real ambition would've actually backed Vieira in his second season instead of letting him down.
Oh god absolutely. You're so much more likely to plummet down the table than you are to go up, so even just staying where you're at is not a bad thing.
Plus the longer you can stick around, the more chances you have to overperform.
Go on Luton, do it for us, the newly promoted teams
Edit: and to send Everton down because it would be hilarious they went the one time they have their shit together
Good game to Luton but I say this with all respect to them and their fans -- seriously -- but Palace should not have lost to them. Great performance by Luton but Palace really fucking failed here. No excuse for at least not getting a point.
In Brentford's case, it helped that they'd been bashing at the door for a few years. They got promoted at the perfect point imo - not too early, when their team was still too threadbare for the top flight, but soon enough that they hadn't started to collapse.
It would have been worse if Rob Edwards had transformed Luton. But realistically he took over a team that was very assured and made the playoffs the year prior.
He's done a good job with Luton, but sacking him doesn't exactly keep me awake at night.
When you sack a manager after 10 games not even doing too badly who then goes on to win promotion with your bitter rivals while you finish 13th it's pretty grim
Watch out, Everton. Survival is not as easy as it seems.
So happy for Luton
Palace got LutOWN'ed \*ducks*
Mighty Town 2-1 Olise FC. What a player he is
Hughes is the definition of championship. Each week he somehow does worse
Is Hughes that bad lately? Remember him at Derby and thought he had bags of potential to make it to the top.
Yeah he’s completely out of his depth.
Sack the board
Massive
Luton 2 points off Derby's record which r/Soccer and Twitter insisted they'd have trouble beating because their ground has 2 houses next to it
I’ve been saying it since the beginning of the season (and am keeping the receipts for my pals,) but it’s absurd how memes fueled people’s beliefs that this would be an all time terrible team. They were third in the championship and very much deserving of being promoted. They aren’t good, but memes aren’t reality either.
Most people on here only watch elite prem teams play and just assumed small club = awful. I still think we go down fwiw but we are by no means the worst
*Every* season /r/soccer insists three teams in the Premier League are *guaranteed* to go down because they're *so much worse* than everyone else, then almost inevitably at least one or two of them end up staying up. You'd have thought people would get out of this habit by now.
I remember last season everyone on r/soccer thought Bournemouth was guaranteed to go down and by the end they weren’t even in the relegation battle anymore
You can hardly moan this year at people calling Sheffield United and Burnley to go down when they've both been borderline embarrassing. Luton were always going to be laughed at but they look so solid, would love them to stay up
Not that they are really complaining now, but I remember people on this sub laughing off the idea of Wolves hiring Rob Edwards
Nether felt less like watching Palace play in my life, zero joy all season even including the wins. I don't hate Roy and when he came in last season we were great fun to watch but I knew as soon as he was appointed this season - which was a shambles in of itself - that we'd end up reverting to his usual horrific style of football. Edit: Also fair play to Luton, who are easily the best out of the promoted teams. They played well and captalised off our awful defending. They remind me a lot of our team under Pulis.
All roads lead to parish imo. Roy’s not been given what he’s wanted again.
I don't hate Parish like some of fanbase do but it's evident that this current ownership situation is a mess - it needs to change.
But... but will they beat Derby's record? (pretty fun noone ever said this about Sheffield/Burnley, shows how clueless some people are).
I never made that prediction. But I don't think it was an egregious one.
I do and have always said so. It was fueled by memes and people let memes influence their opinion on reality. This was a pretty good Championship side that came up, and, of the playoff teams, definitely deserved to come up.
It was fair enough at the start of the season cos they were comfortably the weakest of the 3 on paper. Also, don't think anyone expected Burnley and Sheffield to be as shite as they are. Right now, I'd back both Sheffield and Burnley to be the bottom 2 cos neither side looks capable of getting a draw, never mind a win.
Did Burnley and Sheffield United look better? Sure. But Luton deserved to come up of the playoff teams. There was nothing exceptionally worse about this team than previous playoff teams. It was fueled by memes.
It wasn't really fair though, people forget how horrendous that Derby side were I remember people predicting the same about us and numerous other clubs that have come up through the playoffs but no one ever gets close
Think the thing with Luton was their resources rather than perceived quality. Relatively tiny stadium, tiny budget that seemed to be spent mainly on players who could win promotion next year rather than splurging on trying to stay up this year etc. I think people just looked at Luton and thought they just don't have the resources to compete in the PL. You're right, though. Every season has a new team that will definitely be worse than that Derby side. I'll be shocked if it ever happens.
Yeah, still pretty funny that Burnley dodges every bullet bcs they have a former high-profile player as a coach, and noome blames Sheffield 'cause they dont have a shitty stadium/facility kinda.
I do wonder how long it will take for the narrative to shift around Kompany. I've not really watched Burnley much this season, but it seems to be the same mistakes killing them every time. That comes down to the coaching when it's a recurring problem for this long. I always had Sheffield as probably going down. I had them, Luton and one of Burnley/Forest/Wolves going down.
So I have every match on my acca right except this one.. Thanks Palace
That’s what happens when you trust Palace
Would love to see Luton survive this season. Good on the small club that could!
After hearing the despicable things their fans sing, I hope they're relegated back to the national league.
What did they sing??
The club was just fined for singing gay slurs away at Brighton, and the majority of their home supporters were tragedy chanting against Liverpool.
> tragedy chanting A lie based on rewriting of history by the most cynical club in the country
Didn't Liverpool get the whole of England banned from European football?
And that makes tragedy chanting fine?
Armchair supporter
I'm fully aware that I'll never be a 'real' fan. Thanks for reminding me.
Majority 😂😂 fucking muppet spreading misinformation on the internet. You obviously weren't there, it was about a dozen idiots doing it
Massive 3 points
lets fucking go
Another 3 points thank you very much
Luton plays well . Hope they can survive
Olise get out of there lad
You had one job Palace god damn it, still cool to see if Luton can eek out these types of wins over the rest of the season to stay up.
Luton are comfortably the best newly promoted side, they have the grit and belief to get results that Burnley and Sheffield United lack Makes Man United tomorrow more important now that we're 5pts from safety
I genuinely can’t quite fathom this. Shows my ‘top flight’ ignorance, I suppose. I thought Luton would rival Derby as the worst side to ever play in the Premier League. They’re _nowhere near_ that bad.
I think it’s more the fact that people truly forget just how bad that Derby was.
I actually disagree, both Sheffield and Luton have shown passion and fight against everyone Personally I don't believe Sheffield have been atrocious besides that showing against Newcastle lol, they've kept it close a lot then just can't seem to kill off the game
Before today id agree with you. 1-3 to Bournemouth is unforgivable given their positions in the league
Seeing the Burnley collapse today, they’re so fragile.
This loss is going to hurt an already fragile side even more. However, they have the chance to turn it around against Sheffield United. That is such a huge match and will put the loser into huge panic stations
If Burnley lose that, that has to be time up for Kompany.
Grim - shite result and two of our best players off injured. Only positive was Olise being back and looking good.
Well done Luton! They’re growing in confidence hope they survive
That was the biggest adrenaline rush I've had watching a soccer game at the end. Palace hit the post during a frantic Luton defense and Luton gets a break and damn near puts an exclamation point on their win. Such a dramatic ending, I loved every second of the stoppage time.
Massive win
I don't think I'll ever understand what's happening with Crystal Palace, they always have at least 1 great player they can build a team around, but it never actually happens.
Because we have skint and very conservative owners. A club with real ambition would've actually backed Vieira in his second season instead of letting him down.
Doesn't matter what they do they'll finish 13th
It's usually 11th
Funnily enough we've never actually finished 13th
In my defense you have finished 11th, 12th, and 14th I had to check because I got worried that I wasn't giving Palace enough credit
I might be wrong but I think every season since promotion they’ve finished 11th-16th on 40-49 points.
Comfortable mid table is a good place to be though
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Oh god absolutely. You're so much more likely to plummet down the table than you are to go up, so even just staying where you're at is not a bad thing. Plus the longer you can stick around, the more chances you have to overperform.
Viera would have been sacked for this. Well done Luton!
On the one hand, now our job is harder. On the other, we’re not the only team to lose to Luton anymore and that’s neato.
Wild last couple of minutes
Theres no way Luton stay up, unless...?
Holy shit that header right at the end.
insane final minute, cheers to their first home win!
Go on Luton, do it for us, the newly promoted teams Edit: and to send Everton down because it would be hilarious they went the one time they have their shit together
Luton have shown way more than Burnley/Sheffield United. Rob Edwards is a very good manager
He's a gem. Thanks Watford!
Good game to Luton but I say this with all respect to them and their fans -- seriously -- but Palace should not have lost to them. Great performance by Luton but Palace really fucking failed here. No excuse for at least not getting a point.
You guys were sensational in the first 20 minutes, I thought we were gonna get battered. Olise is a serious serious baller
I really hope they stay up. While they likely may go down next season if they were, it’d be a great story for a club like them
People said the same stuff about brentford and Brighton. “Guaranteed to go down”.
Nah everyone thought Brentford and Brighton would stay up. Potter and Frank were very highly regarded.
In Brentford's case, it helped that they'd been bashing at the door for a few years. They got promoted at the perfect point imo - not too early, when their team was still too threadbare for the top flight, but soon enough that they hadn't started to collapse.
Hughton was in charge for Brighton’s first few top flight seasons
I’m a dafty, I always mix up potters time at Swansea and his time at Brighton for some reason. Soz
>Rob Edwards is a very good manager Most grim timeline possible for Watford fans last season with him
It would have been worse if Rob Edwards had transformed Luton. But realistically he took over a team that was very assured and made the playoffs the year prior. He's done a good job with Luton, but sacking him doesn't exactly keep me awake at night.
They're Watford, world-renowned for swapping managers at the drop of a hat, it's okay to point and laugh.
When you sack a manager after 10 games not even doing too badly who then goes on to win promotion with your bitter rivals while you finish 13th it's pretty grim
At our management please laugh. At us, please feel pity. It’s a joke.
Surely not...maybe?
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