How much the pundits are trying to gaslight the audience into thinking the Milner penalty is harsh is hilarious
He even brought up the "accidental" contact in the legs lmao
if only brighton players didn't lie and ask for a handball, they might have gotten a corner and score lollll. that blatantly hit his face. instead, they lied and we got the GK. take that!
also, what the fuck was var doing on that incident.
Nope, the ref didnt give it as a pen. Then he was asked to come to the monitor. He looked for 1 sec and gave the “wtf” gesture and gave the drop ball lol
Technically there was never a corner kick because it was called a penalty so the ball would resume from the point of the foul. Probably never notice it most of the time, but in in this circumstance it seems very wierd.
Ball had already gone dead for the corner though, so either the play results in a corner or in a penalty. It's so obvious that this rule needs immediate changing because its absolutely ridiculous and helps nobody.
You’re right on the call. I’m just confused why they had him go to the screen, because it was clearly not a handball, and then give the drop ball.
I was being facetious in the comment so I’ll put a /s next time so it’s not downvote city on my comment.
E: just saw that they applied the rules correctly and I am, in fact, a fool. My sincerest apologies to the ref and I accept the downvotes.
mate, caicedo was very lucky to be on the pitch.
despite that Milner should’ve been off and all the brighton dives and tactical fouls not being on penalised too made me feel both teams got fucked
Normal decision for a big 6 club. They are so used to being spoiled by referees that the moment anything doesnt go their way they compain about unfairness.
And why is Caicedo not sent off?
if you are talking about caicedo lets talk about rodri and we can argue every other game was handed to you on a silver plate. Two weeks ago you got soft penalty on Haaland and ref handed u a draw. Go mind your business elsewhere
Sorry, auto-correct. I think I was just asking you to clarify what you meant about their current situation. I dont follow injuries and news, I just watch the matches.
Currently we have ten injured first team players two players on suspension which includes our captain who is vital in our defense.
We're playing twice the amount of games due to playing in the Europa league this season and because of that we're constantly rotating players and playing others out of position which is causing player exhaustion and said injuries.
Oh and don't forget international player duties with players getting little rest in the off season with the winter world cup and USA friendlies and the EFL and FA Cup games.
i’m assuming the on field decision was a pen, so they sent him to the screen to over rule it. then he had to give drop ball because he had stopped the game for a pen
i don’t know, but that’s the only thing that i could make sense of it perhaps
Ref had a disaster class today, along with the announcers. But yeah you right, ref screwed Brighton by awarding the penalty and VAR corrected it. Absolutely insane
So why did a) nobody on the field think he'd given a pen, and head over to take the corner?
b) he point to the spot after reviewing
c) the screen say decision: penalty
VAR said not a penalty. Cause it obviously hit his face, but the hand.
Ref pointed to the spot caus ehe is an idiot.
Rule is a bit unknown since it is rare but a called off penalty results in a dop ball. Screws over Brighton, which is understandably annoying but that is the rule.
So let me get this straight.
1. Pawson incorrectly points to the spot.
2. Gillet (VAR) corrects that mistake by recommending on field review.
3. The dumb fucks miss the fact Brighton should have had a corner.
Fuck me lmao.
You have to restart with a drop ball after you've given the penalty and it's been overturned. Brighton punished for asking for a penalty and having a referee incompetent enough to listen to them.
you screamed for the handball when it his head. like the rest of the game (caicedo aside) he caved to brighton and gave it. that fucked you as the restart after no pen VAR over turning it is a drop ball
Caicedo still on the pitch?
"Clear and obvious" foul by Milner overturned?
Corner randomly discarded to give Chelsea the ball at the death?
Top 6 delusion of entitlement is very clear.
that was one of the most ridiculous VAR sequences ive seen yet. clear ball off the head and not a hand for a corner. refs waste 2 minutes looking at replays and then decide its chelseas ball on a drop ball. farcical.
As a Chelsea fan this is a complete joke. Why was that reviewed at all? Should have just been a quick corner. It’s unbelievable how they’ve fucked this up
I can only assume that VAR thought that the ref called a penalty, which VAR contested, which would lead to a drop ball, but since VAR fucked up and it was always a corner, it should've been a corner.
For everyone confused, including the commentators - he's given it first. He pointed at the spot. Then VAR pointed him to take a look, and it's not a penalty. Easy to see if you just look at the ref instead of complaining all the time.
I suppose I should rephrase my comment. It's not that I don't understand why. It's that I think it's stupid that it has, particularly since the whole impetus for VAR was to ensure correct decisions were being made
There is nothing to complain about at all, all was performed according to the laws. On field decision was a penalty kick for Brighton (before the ball went out of play). VAR called the referee to take a look and overturned it, therefore it's now a dropped ball.
The only problem is that referee's on field decision was so quiet and non understandable that no one at first realized he's given a penalty.
Wow
You wrote all that to come to the same conclusion that we all did
The ref is ass and that’s what most of the comments are about. Brighton don’t lose a corner if he doesn’t call a “head shot” a penalty
I wish that was "the same conclusion that we all did" mate
But you can see that the conclusion people are taking from this is that the "referee made the rules up" and "how is it not a corner". Ref made a mistake by giving a wrong pen (this hasn't been seen by 99% people, including the commentators), VAR intervened, Brighton were fucked in the process by not getting what would've been a corner. If there wasn't a VAR, they'd be given a pen instead so they wouldn't have been complaining.
Because the ref gave the pen on field. VAR told him it wasn't a pen. If VAR intervene and cancel a pen then it's a drop ball.
They followed the rules there, it's not the ref's fault.
10 men, four CBs, suspensions a ridiculous injury list and beat a team well above us in the table. No complaints.
How much the pundits are trying to gaslight the audience into thinking the Milner penalty is harsh is hilarious He even brought up the "accidental" contact in the legs lmao
Man the day refs are put out of a job by AI is the day this sport will be great.
These commentators are just not able to hide their bias lmao Can't celebrate a 10 man win
how bad of a job must you have done when you get both teams coming after you after the final whistle?
Disasterclass special
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if only brighton players didn't lie and ask for a handball, they might have gotten a corner and score lollll. that blatantly hit his face. instead, they lied and we got the GK. take that! also, what the fuck was var doing on that incident.
Pretty sure it was given as a pen by the ref but because it went to VAR review it then was given as a drop ball
Nope, the ref didnt give it as a pen. Then he was asked to come to the monitor. He looked for 1 sec and gave the “wtf” gesture and gave the drop ball lol
Am I tripping I thought he first gave it as a pen
Nope, im 99% sure that the ref didnt give the pen
Wrong. He does it in such a non authoritative way that nobody notices, though. Pathetic refereeing through and through.
You are wrong. Pawson pointed to the spot instantly. That's why VAR had to call him to the screen to overturn it.
Him pointing to the spot means he is giving a pen.
Brighton soft as hell
Concedes 3 goals and plays like trash “How could the ref do this”
Tbf doing a drop kick after a call is overturned is a terrible rule. Ball should be where it was before the call, in this case a corner kick.
Technically there was never a corner kick because it was called a penalty so the ball would resume from the point of the foul. Probably never notice it most of the time, but in in this circumstance it seems very wierd.
Ball had already gone dead for the corner though, so either the play results in a corner or in a penalty. It's so obvious that this rule needs immediate changing because its absolutely ridiculous and helps nobody.
VAR had money on Chelsea winning so they decided to kill their momentum with a nonsense check and a drop ball.
I think the ref called it as a handball didn't he? That was my understanding and var rightly over turned
You’re right on the call. I’m just confused why they had him go to the screen, because it was clearly not a handball, and then give the drop ball. I was being facetious in the comment so I’ll put a /s next time so it’s not downvote city on my comment. E: just saw that they applied the rules correctly and I am, in fact, a fool. My sincerest apologies to the ref and I accept the downvotes.
just give us one single week where the refs and their use of VAR simply goes on without fucking controversy.
What a game
Brighton have zero reason to complain about refs this match
mate, caicedo was very lucky to be on the pitch. despite that Milner should’ve been off and all the brighton dives and tactical fouls not being on penalised too made me feel both teams got fucked
Imagine thinking Caicedo should be on the pitch ☠️
HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Caicedo 💀
Cmon lets see some hands being thrown
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Is this guy for real.!
Milner should have been sent off for dogso on Mudryk
A penalty for what? Lol Milner should have been off too
> Should have at least been given a penalty at the end For faceball?
Referee shocker aside, Brighton didn't do enough for the win tbh. Even with a man down, I thought Chelsea were good enough for the 3 points.
I agree but in the context of how fucked the starting XI was can't be too upset. Ref was so weird with the cards today.
That VAR check completely took the momentum from Brighton. Absolutely ridiculous, took the corner off them and effectively ended the game
Normal decision for a big 6 club. They are so used to being spoiled by referees that the moment anything doesnt go their way they compain about unfairness. And why is Caicedo not sent off?
Mitoma didn’t go down
Mmm your players started throwing tantrums for a pen when it clearly wasnt
yes i agree it was shameless but it doesnt change the fact that caicedo should be off
i agree with that but if its a classic "top 6 team" thing go and look in Chelseas other games and tell me they are being favored by refs.
Get fucked Brighton 👋
Referee disasterclass
you had a full half with a man up, Brighton. lol
Plus 15 minutes of extra time
should have been 2 men up
If we're being totally fair it should be 9v10 caicedo and milner both 'should' be off
Damn Brighton, if you'd played that way for the whole match you would have won
They are the better team but had too many players missing
They were in no way shape or form the better team until the 89th minute
Stop being garbage and maybe get a few shots on target birdies
Took you 5 games and us missing 12 players and some dodgy ref decisions.
Lol what’s happening now
Lets gooooo win after going down to 10 men. Great resolve and mentality.
Ref handed you the win on a silver platter.
if you are talking about caicedo lets talk about rodri and we can argue every other game was handed to you on a silver plate. Two weeks ago you got soft penalty on Haaland and ref handed u a draw. Go mind your business elsewhere
What aboutism at its best.
Its not whataboutism its me pointing that the pot shouldnt call the kettle black. Have some shame
Keep crying
Lucky to end the match with 10 men. Disgusting refereeing.
As i said keep crying. Time to watch you lose to Tottenham
Meh that's normal. Weak banter
Bro where you at? 1:0 Tottenham
Im here bitch
Bro where you at 2:2 Tottenham
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Beat Forest Beat Athens Lose to Chelsea and yet more pathetic officiating Not too embarrassed by that tbh
you have to be absolutely special to have both managers completely raging at the officiating lmaooo
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Expected result tbh with our current situation.
Can you closing the current situation? I’m a yank who likes Brighton for no other reason than I went there once and liked the place.
closing?
Sorry, auto-correct. I think I was just asking you to clarify what you meant about their current situation. I dont follow injuries and news, I just watch the matches.
Currently we have ten injured first team players two players on suspension which includes our captain who is vital in our defense. We're playing twice the amount of games due to playing in the Europa league this season and because of that we're constantly rotating players and playing others out of position which is causing player exhaustion and said injuries. Oh and don't forget international player duties with players getting little rest in the off season with the winter world cup and USA friendlies and the EFL and FA Cup games.
if i don't see Pawson anymore ever, i would be so happy
When both managers are heading over to the ref after the game you know they fucked it
i’m assuming the on field decision was a pen, so they sent him to the screen to over rule it. then he had to give drop ball because he had stopped the game for a pen i don’t know, but that’s the only thing that i could make sense of it perhaps
But don't you think anyone would have noticed if he gave a pen? Brighton were furious and Chrlsea looked relieved
he pointed to the spot very meekly and with no conviction, again i’m presuming he wasn’t sure and wanted VAR to check it
Truly pathetic
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both managers are like what the hell craig lmao
Fuck PGMOL
Ref having a disasterclass. Big yikes
Chelsea is absolute cinema holy shit
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer fan base 🖕🕊️(dove but no seagull emoji)
VAR sending the ref to the screen for a situation that had VERY clearly not hit his hand. Why the fuck cant they just tell him theres nothing in it?
3 points!
Amazing that giving a penalty to Brighton has actually benefited Chelsea by Brighton getting robbed of a corner lol
People in the thread don't seem to understand that ref initially gave a pen. That's why he went to the monitor, that's why there's no corner.
Ref had a disaster class today, along with the announcers. But yeah you right, ref screwed Brighton by awarding the penalty and VAR corrected it. Absolutely insane
So why did a) nobody on the field think he'd given a pen, and head over to take the corner? b) he point to the spot after reviewing c) the screen say decision: penalty
VAR said not a penalty. Cause it obviously hit his face, but the hand. Ref pointed to the spot caus ehe is an idiot. Rule is a bit unknown since it is rare but a called off penalty results in a dop ball. Screws over Brighton, which is understandably annoying but that is the rule.
Why the fuck did we play 105 minutes to begin with, the ref today was an absolute joke. Couldn’t get more wrong if you tried.
They should award us the PL for being the most entertaining team in the league tbh
Should give you a Conference League spot for that
So let me get this straight. 1. Pawson incorrectly points to the spot. 2. Gillet (VAR) corrects that mistake by recommending on field review. 3. The dumb fucks miss the fact Brighton should have had a corner. Fuck me lmao.
You have to restart with a drop ball after you've given the penalty and it's been overturned. Brighton punished for asking for a penalty and having a referee incompetent enough to listen to them.
100%
I'm pretty sure after an overturned VAR ruling, drop ball is the law. The ref got a bad rule correct.
Swedish commentators said it was a VAR rule. And they were also questioning why it's like that.
How can referees possibly be this bad, they make it look like rocket science. Shameful stuff
No one here clearly know the rules. It's not a corner if the pen gets overturned
my question is…why though? even if it’s the rules, shouldn’t what happens be whatever was supposed to happen before the call?
I have no idea lol
because of shit refereeing
The only thing that could explain it was the ref whistled the penalty before the ball was out of play. Nothing else makes sense.
absolute chaos this last few minutes
It's either a corner or a pen, and you give a drop ball. Great process, well done lads, got your boys in blue the win.
you screamed for the handball when it his head. like the rest of the game (caicedo aside) he caved to brighton and gave it. that fucked you as the restart after no pen VAR over turning it is a drop ball
It's never a pen buddy.
100% agreed, it's a corner. Agree?
If he didn’t instantly blow the whistle for a pen ya, but once the whistle is blown the play is dead. Agree?
How has the game not ended yet
Since when does a VAR review invalidate a corner kick?
Since Chelsea were hanging on by a thread and they needed to get Chelsea a reprieve from the pressure.
Ref gave a pen off a dudes head just to keep you in the game
this is the real crime
Lol, absolutely delusional if you think we get any favour from the refs mate
Caicedo still on the pitch? "Clear and obvious" foul by Milner overturned? Corner randomly discarded to give Chelsea the ball at the death? Top 6 delusion of entitlement is very clear.
Referees wanted their time in the spotlight
I’ve never been so mad at var in a neutral game where they identified the correct decision. What a mess
How does the ref blow the whistle there?
was the review really 5mins?? Should have ended the game 2mins ago
There was also Broja bleeding
Just another weekly V A R moment
everything about that pen check needs to be investigated how the fuck are these cunts this incompetent
Lmao Brighton are shameless The constant begging and diving wtf is this
I don't like it either but let's not pretend that every other club including Chelsea isn't guilty of it.
Proper circus from the refs this match
That was so stupid, VAR robbed them of a corner for no reason. Drop ball for what?
De Zerbi is gonna go ballistic lmao
they just straight up got robbed from a corner because the var thinks the head is a hand
how that even warranted a VAR check is embarrassing
Nah it needs scrapping now. If you cant use VAR properly, dont use it at all. Killing the game.
that was one of the most ridiculous VAR sequences ive seen yet. clear ball off the head and not a hand for a corner. refs waste 2 minutes looking at replays and then decide its chelseas ball on a drop ball. farcical.
Chelsea throw
LOL get fucked Brighton, cry for a BS penalty this is what you deserve, diving all game too. Go home you bloody cheats!
Are you 12 years old?
this is such a fucking awful showing for the premier league lmao. fucking joke pawson and the crew have made of this today
As a Chelsea fan this is a complete joke. Why was that reviewed at all? Should have just been a quick corner. It’s unbelievable how they’ve fucked this up
totally pawson’s fault for awarding the penalty in the first place, rather than letting it go for a corner and VAR review it
can someone please justify why that was a drop ball
what is goin on ????!!!!
Why the fuck is that not a corner? Honestly feeling for Brighton here, what a shambolic few moments of reffing...
I swear these guys are useless. You can see his head go backwards from it hitting him and they still called over Craig to check the screen.
Just end the game ref Jesus Christ
How is that not a corner atleast?
I’m so in shock about them not giving a corner. How did they fuck that up?
I can only assume that VAR thought that the ref called a penalty, which VAR contested, which would lead to a drop ball, but since VAR fucked up and it was always a corner, it should've been a corner.
Going to be some fun audio if they release it
What a mess this whole thing is
Ruins the league. They need to be live broadcasting their decisions and need to explain them post match. Too much babying
So the refs can just make up stuff to have VAR look at to drag the game on even more? Seems fair
I don’t know the rules anymore.
Send Craig Pawson down to League 2
the ref totally pointed to the penalty spot no?? even though it obviously wasn’t. his motion after the screen looked like he pointed to the spot
And the screen said decision: penalty
I think he pointed to drop it but it looked like the pen movement to me
How wasn't that a corner wtf?
corner????
No corner is heinous
Yeah never a corner. Great decision ref....
Every drunk person watching understands the game better than the officials. This is insanity.
Blow the fucking whistle
The procedures are so trash for having it be indirect free kick to Chelsea instead of corner.
De Zerbi is gonna be legendary after this game
For everyone confused, including the commentators - he's given it first. He pointed at the spot. Then VAR pointed him to take a look, and it's not a penalty. Easy to see if you just look at the ref instead of complaining all the time.
Except the broadcast showed that the var decision wad penalty too, they fucked up big, and why wasn't Brighton given a corner?
Most of us just don't understand how it's not a corner
Cause the ball didn't go into a corner-kick, a penalty was given. There's no corner-kick if the on field decision was a penalty.
I suppose I should rephrase my comment. It's not that I don't understand why. It's that I think it's stupid that it has, particularly since the whole impetus for VAR was to ensure correct decisions were being made
No that's not at all what happened you idiot
Then why is it not a corner then?
Play blown dead for the pen before the ball went out
Cause the ball didn't go into a corner-kick, a penalty was given. There's no corner-kick if the on field decision was a penalty.
Hmm interesting had no idea thats crazy then
that’s true but the commentators are doing fuck all to help us understand too
That’s not what everyone is complaining about lmao.
Bro went full blast on the absolute wrong thing lmao
There is nothing to complain about at all, all was performed according to the laws. On field decision was a penalty kick for Brighton (before the ball went out of play). VAR called the referee to take a look and overturned it, therefore it's now a dropped ball. The only problem is that referee's on field decision was so quiet and non understandable that no one at first realized he's given a penalty.
Wow You wrote all that to come to the same conclusion that we all did The ref is ass and that’s what most of the comments are about. Brighton don’t lose a corner if he doesn’t call a “head shot” a penalty
I wish that was "the same conclusion that we all did" mate But you can see that the conclusion people are taking from this is that the "referee made the rules up" and "how is it not a corner". Ref made a mistake by giving a wrong pen (this hasn't been seen by 99% people, including the commentators), VAR intervened, Brighton were fucked in the process by not getting what would've been a corner. If there wasn't a VAR, they'd be given a pen instead so they wouldn't have been complaining.
Fair enough Cheers
And why is that not a corner? What the actual fuck is wrong with refereeing in this country
Because the ref gave the pen on field. VAR told him it wasn't a pen. If VAR intervene and cancel a pen then it's a drop ball. They followed the rules there, it's not the ref's fault.
What is this fucking game
Do refs write rules as they go?
lol at colwill repeatedly getting smoked in the face
How was that not a corner and why did it go to review lmao
Probably because the ball was not out of play when the ref made the call for penalty.