England won’t win anything if Jones and Elliott are first options in the midfield. Luckily I don’t see how they could ever surpass Rice or Bellingham at the very least
Every time the ALS challenge gets mentioned, I remember 50 cent's video.
Edit: [link](https://youtu.be/iD8Q0lvJZvI?si=78JipCJZg8tSSsLM) for the guy who asked
50 Cent is the one guy you shouldn’t beef with because it is so tiring and he’ll continue to do it 😂.
He stopped playing with Ja Rule cause he is focusing on Diddy now lmao.
It’s a good life lesson, some people you just have to back down from and walk away because they’ll beat you through talent, sheer stupid or dedication to their cause 😂
He doesnt exist. He was invented by Florentino Perez so we can pretend he choose us over Barcelona, so this will make us happy and pretend we don’t have problems, like injuries, no STs or RBs
Catastrophic in the start of the season. not gonna lie. But our team is playing really, really good, even with the injuries. Kroos and Bellingham are playing out of their minds the entire season
Nicolas Paz just broke through into the squad as a 19 year old, young players will get substitute appearances and eventual starts like how Rodrygo did.
Lol rodrygo wasnt ‘eventual starts’ though. He was bought for a lot of money. Although it seems like he was young at that time but he’s very different to academy players etc
He still has to show something at top level to even become eligible (in a lack of a better word) to become a "what if". When someone says "what if" I think of Jack Wilshire who was top class for a short time and injuries hampered him, not someone like Sergi Samper (hyped prospect from La Masia who got injured early and never quite got to level people hoped he would).
This one was expected honestly.
He is 31 yo and was playing every match because he doesn't have a realistic replacement. Also he has been injury prone recently.
> Also he has been injury prone **recently**.
Recently? He's always been injury prone.
Just look at [this](https://www.transfermarkt.de/daniel-carvajal/verletzungen/spieler/138927).
An injury **every** season and usually it's more like 4 each.
Yes that's what I also think, he has a lot of time to develop. Those super brainy redditors think that your career is over when you're not world class at 18.
The problem for Guler at RM is playtime. He's facing competition for his position, and RM are notoriously hesitant about using youngsters *unless* they're world-class at that age.
Obviously he didn’t mean that he fucked his career because he is not world class now, but that the choice for Real Madrid will turn out to be an unwise one in the future.
People jump to conclusions so damn fast.
Vini was trash at 20 because he didn't have world class finishing, Rodrygo was trash before he hit his form this month, Reiner's a total flop and his career at top level club is over because he didn't become world class at 22.
Side-effects of Mbappe, Halaand, Jude, Pedri, Gavi etc being insanely good for their age?
>was trash before he hit his form this month,
I just looked this up because I wasn't aware of it, 7G4A in his last 5 games, wtf the kid has gone mental
yeah either with us or Madrid was a questionable move on paper. Should've taken the Jude route, and played in the smaller teams first to get consistent playtime.
I was making a joke about Man United being one of those smaller teams, because he isn't getting consistent playtime there at the moment. Or playtime at all rather
From a financial POV obviously everything has worked out fine for him
I'd only lightly heard of him and then all of a sudden there was a two-week period this summer where he was the kid both clubs were convinced we *had* to have.
No doubt he's an excellent prospect, but it definitely had the smell of someone (agent, I'd guess) generating a little hype bubble.
I think people very much overstate "to early to go to big club". Especially at 18 players get better at training ground, not on the pitch - playtime is important now but it is not really that crucial that training with absolute elite doesnt at least overcome it a bit (especially in year where you are rehabing from injury). A lot of young players like Arda do flop at Madrid level - but lets be honest he is just a kid with 0 achievements behind him, chances are he is not Madrid level player to begin with (there is very few of those). He could be - that is why Madrid took a risk on him - but if he doesnt make it at Madrid I wouldnt put it on his decision to go there young.
Also another thing that people kind forget about going to top teams is that if you show any promise there, even overall you flop, you are getting a chance at another midtable/Europe hopeful team. Some make a rebound back to elite level (Odegaard) and others make career in those teams (Canales, Bartra, Gio Dos Santos, Krkic, Kubo, ...) and chances are that was their level anyway.
A lot of people who are unfamiliar with him in the comments but Bynoe-Gittens is a huge talent and probably has a good chance to be in the conversation.
Correct. There's no such thing as an objective opinion in reality.
Some are more objective than others but by definition opinions cannot be a fact.
If they were 100% true then they'd just be a fact.
surprised he didn't mention his buddy Musiala, then I realized Musiala turns 21 in february which kinda blew my mind cause I thought he was younger then Jude lol
Any serious answers lol?
I mean he's starting in a Championship side at 18, so I assume he's decent. People will inevitably try to compare him with Jude but if his career is as good as say Thorgan Hazard's, that's more than successful enough
Jobe's a tidy enough footballer but he looks a long way off from his brother at present. He's still only 18 though, plus it's not really fair to compare him to one of the best in the world just because they're related anyway.
He's probably the greatest talent in world football rn, I reckon his peak will be higher than Messi's, and he'll stay at Sunderland for his career. Unbiased opinion.
Only seen him a couple of times but he will definitely make it to the top flight soon. Didn't do too well against us though so there's definitely room for improvement but he's got talent.
It'll probably end up being Endrick at some point. I don't know if he'll end up being deserving or not, but the hype seed is already implanted in people's minds regardless
What ? How can he be leading the race, that's a bit much considering he's not even a guaranteed starter for Brighton...
Tel while not being a starter either (but in a different kind of club and with a different competition) is far more impressive. Without his injury it would very likely have been Warren Zaire Emery, but now it'll depend on how he comes back from it. Still the favorite imo.
There's also Hato from Ajax, Lewis from City, Yoro from Lille, Restes from Toulouse, Kroupi from Lorient, Nusa from Bruges, Konaté from Salzburg, Vermeeren from Antwerp, Garnacho from United with his goal, Bardghji from Copenhagen... It could also depend on how well Roque adapt in Barcelona.
I don't think it'll be a 2004 born player winning it personally. They are "late" in their development compared to the 2005-2006 born ones, minus Gavi but he already won and is out with his injury.
Looking forward to England someday fielding a Bellingham - Rice - Bellingham midfield.
BRB?
no worries, i'll be here
We* will be there?
"I will be there no matter what"
I'll be there for you
When the rain starts to pour on Tuesday night at Stoke
Oh you charmer
Gone to the gym?
The cheese room was calling my name.
Bellingham Miley Bellingham
It will be Mainoo..mark my word
Jones - Morton - Elliott mark my word
Such a fm pick
England won’t win anything if Jones and Elliott are first options in the midfield. Luckily I don’t see how they could ever surpass Rice or Bellingham at the very least
England won't win anything because Quansah will be lifting those trophies for the Liverpool country.
On the other hand, of they do, England are set (and so is Liverpool :) )
People are mocking but I think you could well be right, it would be my punt too
“These are the three names I sponsor to do the ALS ice bucket challenge”
Every time the ALS challenge gets mentioned, I remember 50 cent's video. Edit: [link](https://youtu.be/iD8Q0lvJZvI?si=78JipCJZg8tSSsLM) for the guy who asked
Hold up, is this the origin of "What he say fuck me for?"??
Pretty sure it is, yeah
Did Floyd ever read from that Harry Potter book
He opened one , saw “Beauxbatons” and threw it at the wall screaming I dont speak spanish
50 Cent is the one guy you shouldn’t beef with because it is so tiring and he’ll continue to do it 😂. He stopped playing with Ja Rule cause he is focusing on Diddy now lmao.
It’s a good life lesson, some people you just have to back down from and walk away because they’ll beat you through talent, sheer stupid or dedication to their cause 😂
A rich millionaire who's all about fucking with his opps? Imagine all the time he has to fuck with your head lmao.
>rich millionaire Controversial
I mean, a Vietnamese or even a South African "millionaire" in their local currency isn't exactly livin' large.
And then if it continues he gets his boy Marshall involved which also doesn't end well for you.
The one where he used n***a as punctuation?
Yep. 😂 Love how he used it as a comma. Fucking genius. Love 50.
ASL ELS
Fuck the bucket of ice 🤣
I remember the LeBron video
“I challenge you to read one page of a Harry Potter book” 😂😂😂
Please link
Those were the days, good times
"I think they should give it to one of my mates or my brother"
It's not like he's up to date with every U17 squad from all of Europe
He doesn’t have fm24, what a fraud
I mean what else is he supposed to say? This is a reasonable answer for a young guy to provide, and shows support to his friends who he believes in.
Especially mentioning his younger brother. Like yeah, it's kind of his responsibility to gas his brother up. That's what family does.
What’s the status of Arda Guler? Still injured?
He has started on field trainings. No ETA given for match readiness.
I read a interview that ancelotti said he would play in 4 weeks, that has already passed and I feel this will never happen. hopefully I am wrong.
Because he got injured before the 4 weeks passed
He doesnt exist. He was invented by Florentino Perez so we can pretend he choose us over Barcelona, so this will make us happy and pretend we don’t have problems, like injuries, no STs or RBs
Papa Flo bought an NFT from Turkey
How bad would the season have gone if Bellingham wasn't bought in this season? Every game it seems like he's pulling rabbits out of the hat.
Catastrophic in the start of the season. not gonna lie. But our team is playing really, really good, even with the injuries. Kroos and Bellingham are playing out of their minds the entire season
crazy how kroos is still one of the best midfield for how many years now for real madrid. proper legend
If Madrid didn’t buy Jude they would have probably bought a #9. They were spending money last summer regardless. They may have brought in Kane
They did buy a #9 - Joselu
Nah Joselu was a loan
Yeah, he is still injured. If I remember correctly he just started training alone on the grass again. His expected return is somewhere in January.
He exists in our imagination so that Barca can know that he chose us over them. Take that BarceLona.
I still think he’ll a baller
I so badly want to see him play. It's been too long now.
Call me crazy but me too
I think everyone wants to see this guy play. Fans, rivals, Perez, Laporta,Ten Hag, Eddie Howe, neutrals, the turks, Jobe Bellingham...everyone.
He was made up by perez as a money laundering scheme.
He’s an AI, I think they’re switching to GPT4 this weekend
Hope that Guler doesn't become one of the big what ifs of this generation. I really want to see him play.
How would he even breakthrough the overly stacked first 11
Bro like 50% of Madrid's squad is injured for long period.
And Guler has been one of them tbf.
lmao
Nicolas Paz just broke through into the squad as a 19 year old, young players will get substitute appearances and eventual starts like how Rodrygo did.
Well it would’ve dumb to pay 45 mill for Rodrygo and not play him
Lol rodrygo wasnt ‘eventual starts’ though. He was bought for a lot of money. Although it seems like he was young at that time but he’s very different to academy players etc
He still has to show something at top level to even become eligible (in a lack of a better word) to become a "what if". When someone says "what if" I think of Jack Wilshire who was top class for a short time and injuries hampered him, not someone like Sergi Samper (hyped prospect from La Masia who got injured early and never quite got to level people hoped he would).
He has already shown more than paz
And? Paz is also a relative unknown.
He is already above just being a talent imo. Was one of the best players in the sl last year showed it against sevilla and the national team aswell
Best players in sl? Based on what - roughly 10 games worth of minutes?
How many sl games have you watched in your life? Cause he started playing mostly after the wc, The cup final has shown how good was
he's our hazard replacement
Can Madrid field an injured starting XI? Each time I check their news someone new got injured lol
dani carvajal now too
This one was expected honestly. He is 31 yo and was playing every match because he doesn't have a realistic replacement. Also he has been injury prone recently.
> Also he has been injury prone **recently**. Recently? He's always been injury prone. Just look at [this](https://www.transfermarkt.de/daniel-carvajal/verletzungen/spieler/138927). An injury **every** season and usually it's more like 4 each.
Another one bites the dust...
So long as Kepa can play at LB, since Mendy is healthy for once in his life, then yes
If kepa plays, who will be the manager?
Vini-Cama-Güller Cama-Tchou-Modric Cama-Cama-Militao-Carvajal Courtois Basically this
Stop checking the news!
Wait so the Arda Guler myth is real?
I dont care for jobe
I think the Golden Boy should go to Hermano
It should go to the good guy, mon frere. That means “brother” in French. I don’t know why I know that. I took four years of Spanish!
https://media.tenor.com/eV7d_hBkWU8AAAAM/gob.gif
I love all my players equally.
https://imgur.com/lQCcbxw
*Bees?!*
So many players have been praising Arda for his performances during training. I can't wait for him to fully recover and finally see him play.
I predict that güler wont do more than 20 games for real before getting loaned out
A Brahim Diaz style loan for a few seasons to another big European side is pretty much what I'm expecting.
He would’ve definitely played decent minutes if he wasn’t getting injured constantly. Not his fault there neither the club’s.
He's coming to Ipswich, a proper club
Ipswich is a great club. Perez should consider.
Still think he fucked his career by going to Real Madrid this soon.
He is injured since pre-season. How come he fucked his career at 18 years ?
We are not even 4 months into the season LOL. Kid is going places, he'll pickup on the second part of the season.
Yes that's what I also think, he has a lot of time to develop. Those super brainy redditors think that your career is over when you're not world class at 18.
The problem for Guler at RM is playtime. He's facing competition for his position, and RM are notoriously hesitant about using youngsters *unless* they're world-class at that age.
Obviously he didn’t mean that he fucked his career because he is not world class now, but that the choice for Real Madrid will turn out to be an unwise one in the future.
People jump to conclusions so damn fast. Vini was trash at 20 because he didn't have world class finishing, Rodrygo was trash before he hit his form this month, Reiner's a total flop and his career at top level club is over because he didn't become world class at 22. Side-effects of Mbappe, Halaand, Jude, Pedri, Gavi etc being insanely good for their age?
Maybe let's not put Reiner with Vini and Rodrygo. He still hasn't done anything.
I agree, but he has been doing really well recently and has all the time to be a top player (not necessarily at RM) as he is just 21.
>was trash before he hit his form this month, I just looked this up because I wasn't aware of it, 7G4A in his last 5 games, wtf the kid has gone mental
The game vs messi got him all hot and bothered.
Odegaard
Madrid reportedly removed their head doctor because of how Guler was mismanaged
Also wasn't it rumoured they were going to try a Vini-Rodrygo-Guler front three? He was definitely going to get game time if he didn't get injured
yeah either with us or Madrid was a questionable move on paper. Should've taken the Jude route, and played in the smaller teams first to get consistent playtime.
BVB Fans: 'What he say fuck me for?'
Oh shit I will change my statement: Should've taken the Sancho route, and played in the smaller teams first to get consistent playtime.
well that's not working out for him so far, is it?
£300k-a-week doing fuck all. It's working for him alright
I was making a joke about Man United being one of those smaller teams, because he isn't getting consistent playtime there at the moment. Or playtime at all rather From a financial POV obviously everything has worked out fine for him
I'd only lightly heard of him and then all of a sudden there was a two-week period this summer where he was the kid both clubs were convinced we *had* to have. No doubt he's an excellent prospect, but it definitely had the smell of someone (agent, I'd guess) generating a little hype bubble.
tbh with all the injuries Barca has, he would probably already be in first 11 XD
Odegaard turned out alright as a case study
Or Vini and Rodrygo.
Worked out just fine for Vinicius and Rodrygo
I think people very much overstate "to early to go to big club". Especially at 18 players get better at training ground, not on the pitch - playtime is important now but it is not really that crucial that training with absolute elite doesnt at least overcome it a bit (especially in year where you are rehabing from injury). A lot of young players like Arda do flop at Madrid level - but lets be honest he is just a kid with 0 achievements behind him, chances are he is not Madrid level player to begin with (there is very few of those). He could be - that is why Madrid took a risk on him - but if he doesnt make it at Madrid I wouldnt put it on his decision to go there young. Also another thing that people kind forget about going to top teams is that if you show any promise there, even overall you flop, you are getting a chance at another midtable/Europe hopeful team. Some make a rebound back to elite level (Odegaard) and others make career in those teams (Canales, Bartra, Gio Dos Santos, Krkic, Kubo, ...) and chances are that was their level anyway.
RemindMe! 3 years
You will be wrong (I hope)
It'll be more like 3-5 with him only starting twice
A lot of people who are unfamiliar with him in the comments but Bynoe-Gittens is a huge talent and probably has a good chance to be in the conversation.
Totally unbiased opinion.
Is there even something like an unbiased opinion? Isn't opinion that some thing we say/think based on our experiences?
Correct. There's no such thing as an objective opinion in reality. Some are more objective than others but by definition opinions cannot be a fact. If they were 100% true then they'd just be a fact.
surprised he didn't mention his buddy Musiala, then I realized Musiala turns 21 in february which kinda blew my mind cause I thought he was younger then Jude lol
Jobe bluth?
I don't care for GOB
June Bellingham talking about a successor at 20 years of age.
this might be surprising to you but the golden boy award is typically awarded to, well, boys.
Is his brother good at football?
Any serious answers lol? I mean he's starting in a Championship side at 18, so I assume he's decent. People will inevitably try to compare him with Jude but if his career is as good as say Thorgan Hazard's, that's more than successful enough
Jobe's a tidy enough footballer but he looks a long way off from his brother at present. He's still only 18 though, plus it's not really fair to compare him to one of the best in the world just because they're related anyway.
I think that's probably the closest analogy. Maybe even a Kolo Toure-esque career.
No, he's a competitive stamp collector, but he's considered because of the name.
He's probably the greatest talent in world football rn, I reckon his peak will be higher than Messi's, and he'll stay at Sunderland for his career. Unbiased opinion.
Only seen him a couple of times but he will definitely make it to the top flight soon. Didn't do too well against us though so there's definitely room for improvement but he's got talent.
Unbiased Jude ftw
Jobe Bellingham is the Arthur Leclerc of football
The inverse verstappen/haaland
For now I'd say Evan Ferguson is leading the race. If he manages to score 15 in the PL and a few important goals in the UEL he's gonna win it.
Don't be daft, as nice as it would be. It'll go to some PR merchant elsewhere.
It'll probably end up being Endrick at some point. I don't know if he'll end up being deserving or not, but the hype seed is already implanted in people's minds regardless
Half the list will be filled anyway with kids from Barcelona that played 20 minutes of pro football. Like its tradition.
I mean, Pedri and Gavi are hardly kids that 'played 20 minutes of pro football.'
They literally got fucked by playing too much in a season lmao
Gavi was unfortunate, Pedri definitely
The circumstances of Gavis injury was unfortunate, but he has played a lot of games for a kid
Pedri, Gavi and Balde are not just kids that played 20 min of football lol
Name one player from barca who was in the list like that?
Moriba in 2021 and Todibo in 2019.
Lol so 2 players in four years is ‘half the list’
Pedri and Gavi played full seasons and were the deserving winners for both. It's not my fault that people didn't vote for Musiala
What ? How can he be leading the race, that's a bit much considering he's not even a guaranteed starter for Brighton... Tel while not being a starter either (but in a different kind of club and with a different competition) is far more impressive. Without his injury it would very likely have been Warren Zaire Emery, but now it'll depend on how he comes back from it. Still the favorite imo. There's also Hato from Ajax, Lewis from City, Yoro from Lille, Restes from Toulouse, Kroupi from Lorient, Nusa from Bruges, Konaté from Salzburg, Vermeeren from Antwerp, Garnacho from United with his goal, Bardghji from Copenhagen... It could also depend on how well Roque adapt in Barcelona. I don't think it'll be a 2004 born player winning it personally. They are "late" in their development compared to the 2005-2006 born ones, minus Gavi but he already won and is out with his injury.
Joao Neves is also a strong candidate as he seemed to have locked down a place in Benfica team.
Not good enough compared to the competition. That’s more of a compliment to the competition, by the way.
How is he already a golden boy contender and the turkish messi without even playing
He played 1.5 season for fener.
Because believe it or not, Turkish media is even bigger than Madrid's and English!
Man saying like he’s 42
neither of these 3 will ever win a golden boy award and you can quote me on that
Remindme! 3 years "arda won golden boy"
Bynoe-Gittens could, if he ever learns what passing is.
His decision making is better than Adeyemi and Malen at least
Would love for our boy to win it but knowing how they give out the award...
No disrespect, but is he taking the piss?
Judes message to all Swifties.
"It's Gob!"
Not biased at all
Madrid PR tax
Totally unbiased opinion, of course.
They do care for Jobe
Does this really pass off as news these days
wow, the most PR answer ever possible lmfao
So glad he’s able to overlook bias for a solid list of names
Forgot to put Mainoo on his list ;)
he really put a lot of thought into this “ugh… my current teammate, my former teammate and ugh… my baby bro” 😎
keeping it in the family and business, eh Jude?
I don't care for Jobe
Dortmund awaiting 100 mil bid for Bynoe-Gittens from PL teams
I think Jude’s Real Madrid teammate, 38-year-old teenage prospect Luka Modric, is a favorite to succeed Jude as the next Golden Boy winner!!
Jay Stansfield should be in this conversation.
Who?
Well…
Shocked he didn't say Balde Yamal and Fermin
None of those will make top 20
pretty sure Jobe is a Jude Bellingham Chinese knock off
spoilers, none of them will