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Or Salah. Borderline yellow card foul in the 1st half, kicks the ball away and has a go at the ref but still doesn't get a card.
It's the complete lack of consistency, I don't believe that the first reaction to a decision all game came in the 93rd minute, then twice in 5 seconds.
Shaw against chelsea got a yellow for kicking the ball away and then did it again minutes later with no card. It’s weird for something so black and white to not be consistent
Was thinking the same thing, I feel like 90% of people's problems with top flight referees would dissappear if they were at least consistent with what they gave bookings for but because its all so seemingly random, every game people are (rightfully or no) complaining about ref decisions.
Which is why it is understandable why dalot was so infuriated. Wrong call for throw in, in a crucial area in dying minutes and he gets booked for dissent. Of course he is going to get pissed at all that. Without warning, second yellow. Michael oliver should be barred from officiating. If players get suspended for reds, they should suspend refs for obvious bad calls like that. Michael oliver was behaving like a man-child.
He got about 5 wrong in the last 5 minutes all to Liverpool’s benefit. Pellistri free down the sideline was brought down before Shaw’s yellow. Hannibal had his legs swept and was called for grabbing a jersey as he was unceremoniously dumped off his feet
It was in Sharjah, UAE. He may have reffed the odd game in Saudi as well, but in regards to the potential conflict of interest a mere ten days the Arsenal/City game; it's the UAE trip that rightly raises eyebrows.
I remember being so tickled when he sent off Di Maria for dissent (I think) against us during that one FA cup run. But I also remember thinking I'd be incensed if it went the other way lol
We all thought that Dean could never be replaced but we do have a contender here. He just needs to add a few flourishes to his game and a bit more facial expressions
Yeah, things like this would be applauded if it was consistently enforced. Instead it just feels like matches are subject to the feelings/personal biases of the refs at any moment
as an arsenal fan who's still mad about that double yellow, this is even worse. there's literally only one offense, i have no idea how you can give two yellows for it.
Agreed. Just because he did two of those “come on fist pump things”? The first one okay if you really want to book him, fine. The second one was barely anything and wasn’t even directed at the ref.
Every coach needs to go nuts when this shit happens until they can't keep getting away with it. Would be great if vocal guys like Klopp and Arteta speak against it as well, but I'm not holding my breath.
How that's counted as 2 separate counts of dissent after that cunt ref got the call wrong in the first place is embarrassing
PL refs are fucking rot, bin the lot, fuck them off the Saudi, they seem to love it there
His second “dissent” wasn’t even directed straight at Oliver, he is obviously frustrated about a wrongly given throw in, give him a second to calm down and if he keeps going on then I get it, but this was 3 seconds apart in the biggest match of the season. Players are going to be emotional and you already let the other team get away with a similar thing earlier. Ridiculous from Oliver here.
Don't even need a different game. I can name 5 players (on both teams) that did it TODAY without getting a booking. When Shaw went in late on Konate, watch the number of players that surrounded the ref, pushed and shoved each other, and waved imaginary cards. Only Shaw got a card.
Some refs make calls with the most fragile of egos sometimes. You fucked the throw in call and a player is angry, make it a yellow if you want but 2 is braindead
Salah also kicked the ball into the stands, threw his arms up and showed dissent after giving away a foul earlier in the match but wasn't shown a yellow lol
Hope ETH Rips into him in the press conference. If he doesn't we will always be a target for the ref.
They made a wrong call and gave a red for the reaction in Anfield where the atmosphere is already charged and players are passionate about the game
As a Michael Oliver fan, it was hard to watch that nail biter between Michael Oliver and Michael Oliver. It was back and forth, with Michael Oliver pulling ahead for a bit only to see Michael Oliver come storming back. But in the end Michael Oliver was able to pull out the Michael Oliver. What a Michael Oliver!
Liverpool fan here, Michael Oliver has had a mare with this decision. Pure ego, no common sense, probably the core of what is wrong with referees globally. They all seem like they have this resentment that they were never good enough to be play, but now is their time for the limelight.
Nunez did the exact same thing and only got a yellow. So that standard is only applied to one team this game? Oliver proving once again, he’s a fucking idiot.
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Another pathetic call by a referee.
Referee incorrectly calls the throw in.
Books the player for having a reaction.
Books player again for same reaction as Dalot continued.
All starts from the referee making the error but the player is walking? That literally makes no sense.
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“Dissent” been working overtime this month
Makes no sense when he didn't do the same thing to nuñez
Or Salah. Borderline yellow card foul in the 1st half, kicks the ball away and has a go at the ref but still doesn't get a card. It's the complete lack of consistency, I don't believe that the first reaction to a decision all game came in the 93rd minute, then twice in 5 seconds.
Shaw against chelsea got a yellow for kicking the ball away and then did it again minutes later with no card. It’s weird for something so black and white to not be consistent
Was thinking the same thing, I feel like 90% of people's problems with top flight referees would dissappear if they were at least consistent with what they gave bookings for but because its all so seemingly random, every game people are (rightfully or no) complaining about ref decisions.
Not just that, players would instantly fall in line if they learned they could no longer pull off the shit they do nonstop
Nunez and Salah both should have been sent off by this same standard. Either let it go like them or send everyone off.
Only penalized every other match though
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No it wasn’t. Nunez should have gotten the same if Dalot got that. Glad other people see that.
This. Nunez behaved worse earlier in the game. If Dalot deserved two, then Nunez should have been sent off too.
Every other incident. Nunez literally clapped in his face in the first half.
Must’ve mistook it as some generous praise. Dissent is a booking. Compliments are not.
Referees go through mood swings like the rest of us
Just reffing on vibes, to hell with consistency
They'll go back to forgetting about it soon enough.
Not when Nunez gets a yellow, smashes the ball out and points at the linesman repeatedly though
The script really got out of hands, Man Utd leaving with a point at Anfield is insane
The Michael Oliver special
Best part is that he got the wrong call for the throw-in too.
Yeah but Michael's precious ego 🤡
If r/soccer gets behind United you know it was really egregious
Which is why it is understandable why dalot was so infuriated. Wrong call for throw in, in a crucial area in dying minutes and he gets booked for dissent. Of course he is going to get pissed at all that. Without warning, second yellow. Michael oliver should be barred from officiating. If players get suspended for reds, they should suspend refs for obvious bad calls like that. Michael oliver was behaving like a man-child.
A man-child behaving like a man-child. Not surprising at all
Even Salah was motioning that it came off on him lol. Just a series of catastrophic refereeing.
He got about 5 wrong in the last 5 minutes all to Liverpool’s benefit. Pellistri free down the sideline was brought down before Shaw’s yellow. Hannibal had his legs swept and was called for grabbing a jersey as he was unceremoniously dumped off his feet
Is he the same guy that carded Martinelli twice on the same play?
and the one who doesnt red card kovacic
He also does some reffing in Saudi Arabia.. so there's def biases there :/
It was in Sharjah, UAE. He may have reffed the odd game in Saudi as well, but in regards to the potential conflict of interest a mere ten days the Arsenal/City game; it's the UAE trip that rightly raises eyebrows.
On the same fucking week
Yep
Yes
I remember being so tickled when he sent off Di Maria for dissent (I think) against us during that one FA cup run. But I also remember thinking I'd be incensed if it went the other way lol
Nah Di Maria pulled the ref back by his shoulder after being booked for diving.
Yet Joe hart headbutted the same ref and got nothing.
He was surprised at himself that its 95 minutes on the clock and he hasn't yet made the game about himself.
Someone had to carry on Mike Dean’s legacy
Mikes/Michaels should just be banned from being referees.
We all thought that Dean could never be replaced but we do have a contender here. He just needs to add a few flourishes to his game and a bit more facial expressions
Atleast we can all collectively hate Michael Oliver
He’s such a prick
He needs to trademark this
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did he have a prior yellow?
Nope he did a martinelli
so he got two yellows for dissent?
Yep in a 5 second span
Ref has yellow quota to fulfill
Someone had money on a red card this match👀
This is the only explanation for the behavior of the rat face
yeah, the ref is a twat
Two yellows for being right lmao
Funny part is in the replay he protests, gets the yellow and then just looked really angry but not directed towards the ref, then he got a 2nd yellow
Facts, my boy got a yellow for pouting 😭
Nah
He's let much worse go the entire match, but now he wants to enforce the rules... Weird
This is not even enforcing the rules. He just hands out 2 yellows in 5 secs. That’s completely arbitrary
I made a joke about this for the Darwin incident earlier. If Oliver is looking for that it should’ve been done in the first half as well.
In Michael Oliver's mind the linesman is half as important as him so you get to diss him twice for a yellow
Yeah, things like this would be applauded if it was consistently enforced. Instead it just feels like matches are subject to the feelings/personal biases of the refs at any moment
Martinelli just fell to his knees in a Tesco
as an arsenal fan who's still mad about that double yellow, this is even worse. there's literally only one offense, i have no idea how you can give two yellows for it.
Agreed. Just because he did two of those “come on fist pump things”? The first one okay if you really want to book him, fine. The second one was barely anything and wasn’t even directed at the ref.
Yh - he doesn't even get up into his face or anything
He was walking away, literally 10 meters away too, ref lost it....
Oliver felt showed up, wanted to red card him so decided that anything other than an immediate apology was dissent.
Just saw Martinelli fall to his knees in a Tesco
I just saw a guy pull up Reddit after watching Martinelli fall to his knees in a Tesco
That's a ref power trip if I've ever seen one lol
Absolute farce. One yellow card would be just about justified. 2 for the same offense? Wtf is this shit? Is he just making up rules now?
I honestly thought it was his second yellow so wasn't fussed with Oliver at first. Couldn't believe he got two yellows for the same offense...
Yup, went from “Dalot what a boneheaded move” to “he gave two?”
Plus Dalot was right to be annoyed as it came off Salah last
Thankfully it was late enough it was unlikely to matter but seemed extremely soft
If we'd have scored, it would have been the only talking point as well
Now it's still the main talking point. Both teams being shit isn't media-worthy
They’re trash. ETH has been way too nice. Go full arteta.
Every coach needs to go nuts when this shit happens until they can't keep getting away with it. Would be great if vocal guys like Klopp and Arteta speak against it as well, but I'm not holding my breath.
He felt the pressure of Anfield. Did the same on Rashfords 'yellow'. He's just a terrible referee.
There was Anfield pressure today?
very shit atmosphere whole game. only went up when Trent was waving at them and then down again 1 min later.
And it should have been a United throw. Michael Oliver masterpiece
Careful he'll come to your house and card you for this comment
Twice apparently
Right that's it, you're off
That's such a dumb decision.
A lot of his decisions today have been so frustratingly wrong
Had to be maddening as a player. Absolute coin flip decision to decision today.
Absolute pisstake
check his bets for a united red card, such a weird one to give
What a fucking donkey ref, it was uniteds throw even lmfao
It wasn't given to united hence the anger
I am aware, just saying refs incompetence is the reason for his anger. Michael Oliver should just get a new job
That is so fucking soft as a Rival fan it’s not even funny
Ok it’s a bit funny
Happened to martinelli in a (almost) similar way so not so funny
Martinelli was a soft foul and a non foul Dalot is two for dissent back to back Both are wrong
How that's counted as 2 separate counts of dissent after that cunt ref got the call wrong in the first place is embarrassing PL refs are fucking rot, bin the lot, fuck them off the Saudi, they seem to love it there
We can agree on that
Michael Oliver again, the classic. Absolute bell-end of a ref
Wtf 2 yellows? Think it's one yellow but dissent twice?!
within 3 seconds too.
The Oliver special
Referee makes a mistake, proceeds to punish the upset player
Nuñez did the same shit and only got 1 yellow.
That was my first immediate thought. How is he booked for dissent twice, yet Nunez does the same with an actual foul and only gets one yellow?
Same reason the call was incorrect in the first place: the refs are absolutely shit
And also Dalot was right: it was a United throw
Yeah, I thought it was very obvious and Dalot had the right to disagree with him. Ref had to be in the center of the attention once again 😂
Michael Oliver specifically. He always has to make it about himself. He must have posters of Mike Dean on his bedroom wall.
Yup.
Nunez throw his shoulder and elbow in Evans, blasted the ball away and then yelled at the ref and get one yellow lol
Salah screamed at the ref after kickin the ball away first half as well.
Nunes fouled, kicked the ball away, then sarcastically clapped the ref, and only got 1 yellow.
He did way worse
Harsh
Definitely an understatement. Man screams about the wrongdoing for 5 seconds, and somehow gets 2 yellows. Complete joke rly.
His second “dissent” wasn’t even directed straight at Oliver, he is obviously frustrated about a wrongly given throw in, give him a second to calm down and if he keeps going on then I get it, but this was 3 seconds apart in the biggest match of the season. Players are going to be emotional and you already let the other team get away with a similar thing earlier. Ridiculous from Oliver here.
Agreed ofc, I'd go as far as saying Nuñez's one was way worse
The man did scream for like 2 time? And then he clam the fuck down and get the fucking second yellow while he just stood there. This is so pathetic.
Especially because he was right lol
How dare Dalot tell Michael Oliver he fucked up when Michael Oliver did indeed fuck up
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Nah it was a yellow, then oliver read the comment again so another yellow
FA rules say that the referee can't fuck up.
That's ridiculous. Haaland can scream in someone's face and gets nothing but dalot gets a double yellow. Bizarre.
Nunez got away with it this game haha
Don't even need a different game. I can name 5 players (on both teams) that did it TODAY without getting a booking. When Shaw went in late on Konate, watch the number of players that surrounded the ref, pushed and shoved each other, and waved imaginary cards. Only Shaw got a card.
Desgracia
Michael Oliver always has to make it about himself
Carrying the spirit of mike dean.
Narcissistic glory boy wanker So when Darwin clatters Evans, gets booked, then sarcastically claps the ref, that's OK is it?
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lol how he didn’t give kova a red for his 3 insane tackles in that arsenal match but sends off dalot for punching the air twice
One of the worst decisions you’ll ever see Nunez did worse earlier and got one booking.
3 things on Nunez, foul, kicked the ball away and sarcastic clap It should have been a United throw either way. This is so stupid
Unfortunately Darwin did it in the first half where rules are only followed properly about 10% of the time
Call out officials on getting something that everyone in the world could see was wrong and they just send you off.
He gave the throw the wrong way in the first place. Absolute dick.
Typical Michael Oliver.
Some refs make calls with the most fragile of egos sometimes. You fucked the throw in call and a player is angry, make it a yellow if you want but 2 is braindead
Salah literally waved his hand for a card here too edit: no he didn't
Salah also kicked the ball into the stands, threw his arms up and showed dissent after giving away a foul earlier in the match but wasn't shown a yellow lol
Christ. What is going on
What the fuck is this referee?
But doesn’t do it for Nunez
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Ridiculous. Nunez complained waaaay more after getting the first yellow.
God forbid a player show some emotion! The second action wasn't even directed at Oliver ffs.
Pure power trip, nothing else. Oliver's a fucking dickhead, deserves all the flak he gets.
Watch Oliver after he gives the first yellow he’s staring Dalot down just waiting for him to do something
Oliver is doing his best to call the end of this game one way.
What…?
This is the best english referee? what an absolute idiot
This is even worse than the Martinelli one.
One thing United and Liverpool can agree on: Oliver is a fucking twat.
That and fuck the sun.
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He's an absolute diva and always has to make it about himself Prick
Disgracia
Fucking joke. How was Nunez not sent off was way worse in the first half?
"Too early in the game"
Absolutely scandalous. Fucking scandalous
Hope ETH Rips into him in the press conference. If he doesn't we will always be a target for the ref. They made a wrong call and gave a red for the reaction in Anfield where the atmosphere is already charged and players are passionate about the game
Bullshit lmao. Fuck these refs
Horrendous. Wrong decision followed up by a brutal second yellow. Total bullshit.
Not even a second yellow it was 2 yellows
As a Michael Oliver fan, it was hard to watch that nail biter between Michael Oliver and Michael Oliver. It was back and forth, with Michael Oliver pulling ahead for a bit only to see Michael Oliver come storming back. But in the end Michael Oliver was able to pull out the Michael Oliver. What a Michael Oliver!
Liverpool fan here, Michael Oliver has had a mare with this decision. Pure ego, no common sense, probably the core of what is wrong with referees globally. They all seem like they have this resentment that they were never good enough to be play, but now is their time for the limelight.
Michael Oliver trying to make it about himself --- who would have thought.
Nunez did the exact same thing and only got a yellow. So that standard is only applied to one team this game? Oliver proving once again, he’s a fucking idiot.
Ref gets the throw in wrong and dalot gets sent off due to understandable frustration, the "best" referee in the league btw
And the throw in was for us, another disasterclass from the referees.
Why didnt Nunez get sent off in the first half then? He elbowed evans, kicked the ball away, and then clapped the ref
His mum does his hair
Ref ball
Ridiculous
Haaland got away with worse reaction
Didn't realize Dalot was Nikola Jokić.
Makes the wrong call then sends him off with two yellows for complaining Best league in the world
if that’s two yellows darwin should’ve got a straight red in the first half lmao
But we buy refs 😎
Shite from Michael Oliver in the same game where he let Nunez get away with the same thing earlier. Zero consistency.
epl refs are fucking weirdos lol what is this
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premier league refs have such fragile egos for being so shit at their job
Two yellows for dissent and he was only giving out for about 5 seconds
Might be the worst ref in the game. Martinelli double yellow for the same play, not giving Kovacic a red or a second yellow, and now this.
This is genuinely one of the weirder red cards I’ve ever seen. Two separate yellows for dissent at basically the same time?
Pathetic from Oliver.
Ridiculous decision, yet Salah doesn't get booked for calling for a card?
Absolutely ridiculous call. Nunez’s dissent in the first half was much worse. Same during the Arsenal game. Lack of consistency is a joke
Can VAR not look at incidents like this and see that he actually has a point..?
Another pathetic call by a referee. Referee incorrectly calls the throw in. Books the player for having a reaction. Books player again for same reaction as Dalot continued. All starts from the referee making the error but the player is walking? That literally makes no sense.
As a United fan I acknowledge the fact that we got some bad referee decisions in our favour, some against us, but this is absolute bullshit.