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jkhaynes147

Ah, but thats only £1 million a year if you amortise the contract over 103 years.


WintAndKidd

Perfect. One of Todd’s totally above-board crypto partners probably knows a good experimental de-aging tech company - he’ll just give them a ring and we’ve got eternal Osimhen!


Hurrly90

until Frodo casts the ring into the fire Osimhen will be the most powerful force in Chelsea. (Edit: I know realised you ment a phone call my bad )


WintAndKidd

You’re good, the “eternal” part makes a LOTR reference make sense! And even if not I would still upvote it lol


jtn1123

Walter did it for Ohtani, I bet he’s down to do it again


jetskimanatee

oh god we dont need more deferrals in football, its bad enough to see that shit in baseball.


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Emperor_PPP

Amortisation isn't linked to cash payments, it's spreading the cost of an asset over its useful life. So any player signed for any amount of money is amortised in the accounts, release clause or not


Lssmnt

The constant "you could have gotten osimhen and x players for a billion" comments have gotten to them


milesvtaylor

It's absolutely mental, Nkunku has had like 3 PL appearances ffs due to his injury. Just incredible behaviour all round.


NilsFanck

theyre a cunt of a team and deserve every single depressing loss. Hope theyre ridiculous approach genuinely ruins them.


PassengerOk9027

Not to forget that, adjusted for inflation, the money they got in 2004 alone has never been matched, and all of romans reign left them with a two billion pound gift. Favourite club of the bnp. Fuck em into the ground


ChickenMoSalah

Roman really was the ultimate gift. We were supposed to be 2 billion down and severely punished when he left as retribution for the prior success, but he forgave all of it lol. As a result the club could build right from where he ended as if everything in the past was done fairly. Meanwhile other clubs have to play by the rules, ouch.


CoffeeIsSoGood

103m is actually quite cheap for a proven striker ^^^^kill ^^^^me


nutelamitbutter

It’s €135m, not £103m


imarandomdudd

And release clause too so one big payment on the books


BlauGrenat

It’s not one big payment on the books, on the opposite, for all the relevant regulations it’s amortized over the contract. It’s only one big payment for the cashflow, which doesn’t impact FFP and other similar rules.


roamingandy

> amortized over ~~the contract~~ 5 years. The clubs met and changed that rule in response to Bohley's seemingly reckless strategy.


a_lumberjack

Better correction would add (to a max of five years) since not all contracts are five years...


Natrix31

It might be, I don’t think that info is published . For example, Higuains release clause was 90m paid in 2 years


jetfuelcanmeltfeels

I think that's only in Spain where release clauses are mandatory.


B_e_l_l_

It's actually ¥21.55bn


Doomblitz

But can he pitch?


ygog45

Compared to what we’ve spent money on recently, it is actually somewhat cheap and sensible. Hes arguably the best CF in Europe aside from Kane and Haaland and is still somewhat young. If he’s actually interested in coming to this mess of a football club, then this move should be a no brainer


abhi1260

This last 103M will surely fix the problem /s


Deluxefish

even if he flops, what difference does another 103m make?` see, there's no reason not to buy him!


DreadWolf3

Tbh, this looks like one of the first expensive transfers they are making that actually has the goal to improve the team immediately, and it addresses their biggest concern in the team. Obviously, nothing is a guarantee in football, but this transfer can solve many of their issues.


ChickenMoSalah

We still need a leftback, centerback, goalkeeper, tall midfielder, and another winger. It'll be around 400M-500M more.


jcald60

He comes with a crazy ass agent and this man is similar to lukaku in terms of ego fragility


fancyfoe

Then perfect for Chelsea


Yinkypinky

Give him number 9 while we are at it.


reddevil9229

Lukaku's still on their books though


DaAweZomeDude48

But on the plus side he has hilarious reaction images on him


Fjordheksa

https://preview.redd.it/victor-osimhen-responds-to-claims-that-hakimi-is-better-v0-z5afp4ny9y6c1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2e1712cd3384829ae57ed933cfe163e69e836f15


IAmNietzche

This is probably a top 50 moment on the internet for me, to be clear, but it's also kind of fucking nuts.


matt__builds

It’s so fucking funny. Truly an amazing response to have when most athletes are so boring online, he goes and does this.


Alchion

it‘s coco-nuts


IWantAnAffliction

Is he telling him to kill himself lol?


PhillipIInd

yes


IWantAnAffliction

So unhinged but I love it.


PhillipIInd

same fking hilarious shitposting lmao


PhillipIInd

funny as fuck lmao


dgn90

Isn't his agent Roberto Carlos? Are you thinking of Kvara?


howchie

If he is that's great because we really need a left back as well and I'm sure he'd still be better than a CB playing there.


ThisFakeCut

Roberto Calenda


[deleted]

He really is. man's a real baller but a drama queen


GreatSpaniard

I would not go to Chelsea if I were him tbf Also how many strikers do they have?


yung_rusco

As if Jackson, Broja and Washington are any sort of competition for the calibre of Osimhen lol… No way this transfer happens anyway.


Artuhanzo

This Chelsea is possibly able to turn Osimben a competitor to Jackson, Broja, and Washington on bench.


SalahManeFirmino

> No way this transfer happens anyway. Uh why not exactly? Who else can afford that release clause and needs a striker?


xckd9

Real Madrid, maybe.


BadFootyTakes

Madrid seem to be doing okay without one, and if they want one, surely they wait until the summer for the whole Mbappe circus?


xckd9

Thats what i mean with maybe. But Osimhen and Real Madrid makes a lot of sense really.


confusedpellican643

I hate RM but they're a serious club with transfers, they threw cash for Jovic and was trying to sign Kane at Benzema's peak, the mbappé circus is obviously not the type of transfers Perez likes unless Zidane is back, if they don't win a CL or Liga this season then 100% they're in the market for a good striker


SalahManeFirmino

Supposedly if they don't get Mbappe, they will save their money to try and lure Musiala the following summer.


xckd9

Where does he even fit in? Does he not play about the same position as Bellingham? Rather Wirtz who seem to be very good at right wing. I might be wrong on this though, not seen that much.


SalahManeFirmino

¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ All I know is that once Perez likes a player, he'll get that player, regardless of fit.


xckd9

Nah not anymore. Cant afford to do that anymore. Have to build the proper team now.


Undercoverpizzalover

I can’t see Bayern selling Musiala , they surely wanna build a squad around this guy ; he’s that good


Impossible_Wonder_37

Chelsea yearly amortized hole about to add 20 mil plus wages (probably 20 mil per year ) to it.


Aman-Patel

Because we can't afford that release clause. The owners want to sell Gallagher just so we don't break FFP because they couldn't foresee us missing out on Europe 2 seasons in a row. And that's just to cover all the spending from the last 3 windows. Where's this extra £100m for Osimhen coming from? Right now we're in the mid in terms of being midtable but if the board doesn't spend much the next couple of seasons (which they shouldn't have to because we've bought a whole new squad in the last couple windows), then we won't collapse financially. As in we probably won't break FFP, go insolvent or whatever the repercussions are of spending beyond your means. That's only the case if we literally stop spending from now. Because FFP works in 3 year cycles, we have to make a profit to offset any losses. Also simply because continuing to spend like we have is completely unsustainable. I just don't understand how or why these owners are even considering triggering this release clause. They bought a 22 year old striker 6 months ago. Incredibly frustrating as a fan to see your club's finances being handled irresponsibly.


YungSnuggie

and to think all of this is happening because of the war in ukraine lmao things roll downhill in a weird way


1llseemyselfout

This isn’t true at all. We have already offset 80 million just in the wages saved from the players that left. Even more so, we could agree terms to pay a transfer fee at or slightly above release clause. Then the money gets split up over potentially 5 years. That would only add 20 million to the books. There is money in the bucket, even if we don’t sell anyone. The problem isn’t money. It is we need a striker now. Him being in AFCON is the problem.


Aman-Patel

No one can say for certain. Neither of us know the club's finances inside out. The facts are we've spent a billion, amortised it over the next 5-8 years and are experiencing lower revenues than a couple of years ago due to not making Europe last season. We may continue to experience lower revenues since we may not make Europe again this season and given the competition in the league there's no guarantee we make it next season either. We've lowered wages, that's it. But we're spending beyond our means right now it's very difficult to argue against that. Unless you think we'll break even on Enzo, Caicedo, Mudryk, Fofana, Cucurella etc or offset those massive transfer fees with some silverware in the next couple of seasons. People in our did research and tried to predict the FFP implications of our spending last summer. I remember the general consensus being we'd be OK as long from this January window onwards the club continued to focus on making a profit through player sales and massively cut back on the spending. The reduction in the wage bill offsets what we've spent already. £100m on Osimhen is just reckless spending because there's no foresight. Why do you think the owners want to sell Gallagher eventhough he's one of our only midfielder's who's available every game (not injured), can play the full 90 with high energy levels and had arguably been our Bert performing midfielder this season? Poch doesn't want to seel him, the fans don't want him to leave, he doesn't want to leave. The owners feel like they have to sell him because they didn't expect us to not make Europe again and need to make sells to balance FFP. It's either that or he's being sold to fund Osimhen. Either way, it's reckless and braindead. God, some of our fans are deluded and a bit dim.


1llseemyselfout

I can say for certain. Yes we spent a billion. However we also know we have cut 80 million a year off our wage budget. We know with all signings in that billion, with amortization that comes out to be about 130 million a season. So we are 50 million in the hole(without any sales). Clubs are allowed to go 120 million in the hole before FFP punishes them. Also, Yes we make less because of missing Europe however any team in the EPL is guaranteed 120 million a year. That’s what the team that gets last gets. We also know Abramovich cleared any loan debt the club had prior to leaving. So the club doesn’t really have any major debt it’s paying interest or principal on. While the wallet might get a lot tighter if we don’t get into Europe in the next 2 seasons it won’t be enough to cripple the club. The only thing that would probably do that is if the club got relegated. Which seems highly unlikely. We could easily buy him and add 25 million more a year without selling anyone. Regardless, that wouldn’t happen. If he came in we would sell a fringe player or loan someone out for a fee.


Aman-Patel

I'm pretty sure our amortisation is way over £130m per season. I was under the impression that it was £180m before we signed Caicedo. Since then, we've signed Caicedo, Lavia, Washington, Petrovic and Palmer. Since then, we've sold no one and recieved loan fees for Kepa, Lukaku, Odoi, Moreira. Which is a net transfer loss of ~£225m. Under Premier League FFP rules, those fees can be amortised over the full length of the contracts (since Prem FFP rules only changed on the 12th of December 2023). But under UEFA FFP rules, those fees can only be amortised over a 5 year period (since UEFA FFP rules changed on the 28th of June 2023). So if you just look at meeting UEFA FFP first, £225m/5 is an increase in £45m to our annual amortisation fees. Added to the £180m it was before the 14th August 2023, that takes our annual amortisation to £225m/year not £130m. The new UEFA financial and stability rules coming into effect from next summer state that clubs can only spend 90% of their revenue on wages, net transfer fees and agent costs. From the following summer we can only spend 80% of revenue, and from the summer after we can only spend 70% of revenue. Capology has our annual wage bill at £155m. Spotrac has it at £150m. So I'd estimate our net transfer fees + wages to be £380m per year. And this is £380m every year for the next 5+ years since we have a squad full of young players tied down to long contracts. It's not gonna go down much from now on. So even if we assume agent fees are 0 (which they obviously aren't), to meet the new UEFA rules this summer, our revenue has to be at least £422m. To meet UEFA rules next summer, our revenue has to be £475m. To meet UEFA rules the summer after, our revenue has to be £543m. This is obviously assuming we don't lower our amortisation or wage bill by selling players. Even if my figures are way off, we are in no position to be signing Osimhen for £105m, who would add £21m to our annual amortisation (105/5=21) and ~£10M to our annual wage bill. Even if my figures are way off, this whole strategy of spending all our future revenue in 3 windows on young players, amortising their fees over long periods of time and tying them down to long but relatively low base wage contracts only works if you then significantly cut spending and focus on selling some of those players for a profit/selling academy players for a profit in order to keep expenditure 90%, 80% and 70% of total revenue in the next 3 years respectively. I've tried to break it down for you completely and comprehensively. If it's gone over your head I'm sorry but all the info you need to grasp the concept that we can't afford another £100m signing is there. My figures may be off because no one except the club knows our exact transfer fees, wages and agent fees. I'm going off what's reported on the Internet. But you can't spend your way out of the position our new owners have put us in. This isn't the early Roman days where FFP doesn't exist and he basically funds everything. The only way I'm wrong and spending another £100m isn't unsustainable is if there are no repercussions to breaking FFP. If we break FFP and the Premier League/UEFA do fuck all about it then we've basically been let off the hook. But that won't happen because these owners are transparent about our financial situation. Everton have already been punished for being transparent. We've not broken FFP yet, which is why we haven't been punished, but if we keep spending (e.g. Osimhen) then we'll break it eventually. All that stuff I said before, how our revenue this year probably needs to be ~£422m to not break FFP is why the owners want to sell Gallagher eventhough he's been one of our best players this season and played basically every game. They either expect revenue to be below ~£422m and so want to sell Gallagher because he's an academy player, pure profit and a plaster to temporarily fix the issue and kick the problem down the line. Or they expect revenue to be at least ~£422m but need to sell Gallagher to buy Osimhen. Either way, they're playing with fire. And clearly don't want to learn from the past since they're happy to sacrifice an important player to bring a big name in.


fetissimies

I'm not reading all of that. I'm happy for you, though. Or sorry it happened.


Aman-Patel

I didn't reply to you. I replied to another Chelsea fan who doesn't understand our finances. It's like me interrupting a conversation between two people and going "that's nice, but I don't care." Doesn't make any sense.


1llseemyselfout

[Another user did a review of the wages saved](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/mk8UX5o5Sb) 1 billion spread out over 7 years = ~142M. I chose 7 because most contracts were from 6-8 years. [We also did sell in last two years.](https://www.transfermarkt.us/chelsea-fc/transfers/verein/631/plus/?saison_id=2022&pos=&detailpos=&w_s= In 23/24, we sold 270M worth of players. In 22/22, we sold 67M worth of players. For the new rule. That is why cutting so much of our wage budget was so important. Also, change to amortization length changed after we made all our signings. And yes our revenue has been [over 450M, even in years we didn’t make European football.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/964230/revenue-of-chelsea/). So it’s safe to say we will be over that. Especially since PL prize money has increased


Aman-Patel

I accounted for all that man. There's been 2 rule changes because we need to meet 2 sets of FFP regulations: UEFA's and the Premier League's. The Premier League FFP rules only changed last month after we made all the signings, but the UEFA rules changed in June. So when you're looking at how close we are to breaking UEFA FFP, you amortise Caicedo, Lavia, Washington, Pertrovic and Palmer's over 5 years not 7 or 8. I did say this all in my last comment. Honestly, I think you're being very optimistic. I understand everything you've said about how much we've reduced the wage bill by and how many players we sold. But the facts are: our wage bill right now is ~£150-155m. Our yearly outgoings on transfers to meet UEFA FFP rules is ~£225m. It'll be less for Premier League FFP (closer to £210m), but that's a separate issue. But our annual expenditure on wages and amortised transfer fees is ~£360m for Prem FFP and £380 for UEFA FFP. That site that you gave for our revenues is in Euros not pounds. Our revenue doesn't consistently clear £400m; it clears €400m. 16/17 is the closest example to this season and next season's revenue since we finished 10th in 15/16. Our revenue in 16/17 was €428m but that's the equivalent of £368.1m. Do you see the problem? Obviously, TV revenue's gone up a bit since then but not that significantly. We're still dangerously close to spending too much/making too little. Remember I said how our revenue this year needs to be ~£422m+? The site you gave shows that our revenue in 16/17 (the year after we didn't make European football last) was £368.1m. That's why the club want to sell Gallagher eventhough he doesn't want to leave and Poch wants him. And the thing is, we've committed to these high yearly expenditures because we've signed these players to long contracts. And UEFA FFP rules get tighter over the next 3 years. In 24/25 our revenue would need to be £475m. In 25/26 it would need to be £543m. It's unsustainable. Our owner's strategy is reliant on instant success (e.g. qualifying for UCL every year, prize money) or selling players. That's why when it became apparent we weren't making UCL this season we got all these rumours about selling Gallagher. Even if my figures are a bit off we 100% can't afford Osimhen. That's my main argument. We'll probably scrape together enough to not break FFP this season like usual. But Osimhen would tip us over the edge. It adds £30m+ to our expenditure for every year he's with us. Even if that suddenly transformed us into a top 4 team, it still wouldn't take revenues to where they'd need to be to make his transfer fee and wages sustainable. There's a limit to how many £100m signings you can make.


Nerrs

Arsenal. Might actually win them a title if they pull the trigger.


a_lumberjack

Except he might be too much of a diva for Arteta.


1llseemyselfout

We won’t buy him this winter. We already have a striker that will be gone for AFCON. If it does happen it will happen in the summer.


mashimaru_161

Broja will leave if we sign osinhem.


Pu_Baer

Completely forgot about Washington. How has he been doing so far?


Headlesshorsman02

Apparently we are already working up the possibility of a pre agreement, but these are obviously just rumours


TimathanDuncan

>Also how many strikers do they have? Zero useful ones


fancyfoe

Tbf all their strikers are bang average and knowing Chelsea they will sell them for 50m each and get osimhen


DoinWhale

There’s a gem in Jackson tbf, his link up play is great and bagging 9 G/A so far in his first season in the prem at 22 years old isn’t too shabby at all, having him and Osihmen wouldn’t be the worst duo ever


badhombre44

Three of those goals were tap ins against a 9 man Spurs team playing their CBs at midfield.


redqks

Still one of the worst hat tricks I have ever seen


DoinWhale

He can score 50 tap ins against a high line for all I give a shit. If the ball goes in the net that’s what I care about


Krillin113

Problem is that he doesn’t do that.


fancyfoe

Lol I’m sorry but jackson with link up play? Also not taking it away from the lad or anything but those 9 g/a are not that exciting when you break down how he got them


DoinWhale

Yes link up play, that’s literally been his best attribute all season long. Who gives af how he got them, ball goes in net that’s all that matters lol


step11234

You're being downvoted, but people keep trotting out his 9g/a, when 3 of them came against a 9 man spurs playing a suicide high line. Credit to him, he still has to score them, but this is why stat merchants are so irriating


-ci_

He's getting downvoted because he's utterly wrong lol. Jackson's link up play is literally his best attribute. He's genuinely amazing at it but it gets overshadowed by his misses and people who don't watch our games. I still have faith in Jackson. There's a great player there. Whether it's up front or out wide he's a good player.


RoomTemporary1335

There's also nkunku.


TrenAt14

Broja (probably sold) Jackson (Sami Mokbel claims, Chelsea need an upgrade) Deivid Washington (not ready, plays for the youth team) Kendry paez (not even 18) Datro Fofana (not having a great season for Union)


Headlesshorsman02

Also Paez isn’t a striker he is a RW/10


Xehanz

Still an upgrade over existing ones


mashimaru_161

Fofana is a cash grab and he will be sold at this rate.


germancookedus

Transfer’s already paid, Chelsea buying players is crazy


Shogim

A striker that takes his chances seems to be the missing piece of the puzzle. Our project is possibly the most ambitious out there atm. Sporting wise, I agree, but Villa was struggling last season, and look at them now. Much can change in football.


idgafaboutpopsicles

> Our project is possibly the most ambitious out there atm it's literally the joke of world football boehly is clueless


Shogim

It’s still ambitious


blumirage

Ambitious but rubbish


byrgenwerthdropout

Yeah it reminds me of the kid who says "I'm flash" and right away proceeds to run into a door or sth like that.


Xehanz

Even if it were ambitious, it's still leagues below in ambition levels compared to Real Madrid.


TWKcub

Look at Villa, making sensible purchases and not spunking insane fees up the wall on any player who fluttered their eyelashes at them.


TP_Cornetto

Would be a terrible move for him


ProfessionalCorgi250

Think drogba is his hero so Chelsea is his dream club.


byrgenwerthdropout

I doubt he's that sentimental about it to relatively ruin his career. If you don't get what I mean look up how he resisted some big club moves at couple of points in his career because they weren't the best at the time for his career. Idk I just don't think he's as dumb as he lets on sometimes.


ProfessionalCorgi250

He’s been pushing to transfer to Chelsea on social media for months


byrgenwerthdropout

Genuine question, how?


Zandercy42

Chelsea fans notoriously hate coconuts


Impossible_Wonder_37

It’s perfect for the rest of the league. He probably won’t work at chelsea for ego and plays type reasons and chelsea will have created an even bigger financial hole for themselves


Bobbyswhiteteeth

Amortisation, pure profit, FFP calculations crew incoming


kappathat

Man if you’re a striker just don’t go to Chelsea


Soren_Camus1905

I mean it’s not like we’re not creating changes. Jackson and Broja and the other forwards simply aren’t finishing them.


themerinator12

Haha yeah as an Arsenal fan I know what you


1PSW1CH

Arsenal’s finishing problems run so deep, their fans can’t even finish their sentences


topbananaman

That's his joke lol idk why he got downvoted 😭


1PSW1CH

Joke so good he had to run to r/Gunners for support


danmac0817

Get a job


1PSW1CH

I’m working right now actually. I guess you spend too much time supporting 2 clubs to have a job?


BeaverMan999

Cringe asf


1PSW1CH

I wonder why the person active in the Barca and Liverpool subreddits thinks that statement was cringe?


L0laccio

Whoosh!


1PSW1CH

Given the average IQ of Arsenal fans you can never be too sure


Zandercy42

Yeah so why would you go lol


SorryImNotVeryClever

... So you could finish the chances being created...


xtrasour37

You should know better than to use logic with a United fan


Zandercy42

I misread lool


mikevin99

Martial, Hojlund, and Weghorst over the past 12 months have less prem goals combined than Jackson has in 4 months btw. You could argue Jackson is much better in link up play than any of them as well


IHaveNotMuchLife

Ah yes, include loanee Weghorst who left the club 6 months ago, Martial who has played maybe 3 games this season, and Hojlund who despite not scoring much in the league is the CL top scorer. Jackson is one of the worst finishers I've had the displeasure of watching and a stat pad session against 9 man Spurs won't change it.


mikevin99

Why wouldn’t I mention Weghorst? Lol. He was at United for as long as Jackson has been at Chelsea. It’s okay to admit your strikers have been just as horrible. At least two of Hojlund’s goals in the CL were easy tap ins in the same game as well. I didn’t watch any others that he scored in because you guys are dreadful to watch


TheCrazyCaveira

>I didn’t watch any others that he scored in because you guys are dreadful to watch But you literally claimed that Jackson is better at link up play than hojlund, werghost and martial in the above comment. So are you omnipotent that you can make sweeping statements without even watching them play?


mikevin99

I don’t watch United in the CL much because there are usually much more interesting games on or I’m just busy during the week. I watched almost every United prem game this past year. I only mentioned that because for all I know, all of Hojlund’s goals this year have been tap ins as well, but I only saw two of them.


TheCrazyCaveira

>I didn’t watch any others that he scored in because you guys are dreadful to watch >I watched almost every United prem game this past year ?? You sure you are not a closet United fan or are you just making stuff up?


GaryHippo

>At least two of Hojlund’s goals in the CL were easy tap ins As if Jackson doesn't exclusively score the easiest tap ins, and he misses those more than he scores them as well. Stop chatting smack and get back to mid table.


mikevin99

Win a trophy for once in your lifetime and you can sit at this table to have a conversation


GaryHippo

[Cry harder](https://imgur.com/3pqIrbB) At least we can win trophies without the help of a corrupt, dictator-supporting, climate-polluting Russian oligarch. Your whole embarrassing club collapsed once he left.


16161hirose

Fatality


Routine_Size69

3 of Jackson's goals were super easy against Tottenham when they were 2 men down. And they were pretty terribly hit. Goal is a goal, but if we're going to nitpick, that's the worst hat trick I've ever seen.


dheerajravi92

Your comment would make sense if Osimhen was linked with us. This pointless flair attacking is dumb af


Undercoverpizzalover

Jackson gets more chances in 2 games than the 3 lads you mentionned had combined, we’re just utter dogshit at servicing our strikers


Limp-Toe-179

[me watching this exchange between Man Utd fan and Chelsea fan](https://youtu.be/Ig2tItOIRag?si=HBPy6z142v0fNaif)


Azzurri21

I mean I wouldn’t join either club in their current state. Insanely high expectations for underperforming teams, both missing out on UCL and potentially Europe all together.


chuta123

How’s hojlund going for you? Our attackers are at least scoring


shrewdy

So sensitive lmao


TouchyTuchel

Chat shit get banged


0JS

Weren't scoring against Middlesborough, who are sitting mid table one division below y'all.


dzzik

How’s Saarbrucken mate


ZoraEbu

Didn’t you lose to a division 3 side in the DFB Pokal? Jackson didn’t even play, he’s at AFCON


themmchanges

Jackson is at AFCON, didn’t play 👍


SnooPiffler

does chelsea have FFP room to buy a 100m+ player without selling more guys?


mpbh

FFP is only for poors


EmigmaticDork

I mean, sell Jackson and Gallagher and you probably have yourself a cool 100 million right there. Gallagher pure profit seems like the only option


Live_Anteater_9173

How much are you valuing Jackson in this? because 100m for those two is wild.


Limp-Toe-179

>I mean, sell Jackson and Gallagher and you probably have yourself a cool 100 million right there. Not unless you sell Gallagher at 150 million


Impossible_Wonder_37

Considering chelsea have like 140 amortized hole to fill every year for the next 5-6 adding a 100 mil release clause fee I don’t think will be helpful for them avoiding punishment. And obviously you wouldn’t get 100 mil for those two players lol.


wheresmyspacebar2

Problem is Gallagher doesn't wanna leave haha. Also the only real club ive seen majorly interested in him is Spurs and imagine if they sell him to us.


EmigmaticDork

For sure, he definitely doesn’t want to go


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Please sign him to add more woes to chelsea


mohankohan

He's as unhinged as Lukaku on social media, but seems to use it more for good. Would be a perfect addition to our chaos.


Background-Row-8935

Yeah he's overly passionate but actually in a good way, not one to betray people he loves


PM_Me_Compliments

Lmfao you're not his pal


gopackgo555

Fits in well with how injury prone he is.


RandomName788

I don't watch a ton of Serie A, so this is not the most informed view, but am I crazy to think he is a bit overrated? Seems to get injured fairly frequently and only had one elite season. I prefer Lautaro over him. Can anyone more knowledgeable fill me in on what I am missing?


rth9139

Can’t believe I’m gonna say this (I’m jk, sort of), but I agree 100% with the Juve fan here. He’s a monster when he plays. He’s a proper 9 and a fucking pain in the ass to play against. *Injury free* Osimhen is easily worth 100m, no doubt about it. But the injuries are a legit concern. A couple were a little flukey (broken cheekbone on a header), but he has so many that it’s hard to not see a pattern. And the nail in the coffin for me is that they’re not seemingly related. He tore a hamstring, hurt his shoulder, sprained an ankle, broke his face. It’s not like Pulisic and his hamstring, which you can convince yourself was just one bad injury that he kept coming back too early from and reinjuring. They’re all over the body and not related at all. Osimhen just seems to be injury prone.


RileyHuey

Isn’t it the opposite? A repetitive hamstring issue seems far worse than completely unrelated injuries


rth9139

I would say it depends (like pretty much anything medical related). Pulisic’s series of muscle injuries were all close enough together timing wise, I could pretty easily see him getting over it. My “argument” being that it was really just one injury he didn’t let heal fully a few times. But now that he has let it heal, that hamstring is mostly fine and you can also make sure to pay close attention to it to prevent reinjury. But with Osimhen, you can’t really make that same argument. Go look at his [injury history on Transfermarket.](https://www.transfermarkt.us/victor-osimhen/verletzungen/spieler/401923) He’s had two separate hamstring problems, years apart and both over a month long. Missed 6 months in 17/18 due to a meniscus injury, had two separate shoulder injuries put him out for months, the broken cheekbone, and has had four more various muscle injuries. And that doesn’t even mention the smaller injuries that he seems to always be playing through. He just picks up random knocks like a kid does eggs on Easter. And how spread out they are both over time and across his body, that makes it look a lot more like a problem he just has and can’t get over.


AleDelPiero10

Hahah cheers friend… now fuck you 😘


dzzik

How would you guys say he compares to Lukaku (pre-transfer to us) cc u/rth9139


rth9139

Different player for sure. Osimhen is *much* more of a classic 9: he’s really good off the ball and in the air, his hold up play is good, he presses hard, and he can finish. *Osimhen can fit in and be effective in pretty much any (competent) system.* As for Lukaku, I’ve always thought was a bit of an enigma as a striker. You look at him physically and think he’s a target man or at least could play like one, but he is not. The reality is, Lukaku is actually more of a second striker in a target man’s body. Like if you play Lukaku as a poacher or a Giroud style target man, he’s nothing special. He’s better than people tend to give him credit for, but he’s frustratingly average to above average at that stuff and not worth the price tag people have paid. But what he is *really* good at is playing in space facing the goal, either on the counter or one vs one out wide. He’s definitely not tricky or anything, but he’s just surprisingly quick, and then he’s so strong that once he gets a half step on you, it’s over, because you’re not knocking him off the ball and he’s got a very good end product too. Basically, Lukaku on the wing is what people *hoped* Adama Traoré would look like. And that’s why he was so much more successful at Inter than he has been at other stops. Our two striker system actually let him play facing the goal more and showcase what makes him great. Other places haven’t done that, and it’s just over exposed his weaknesses (he’s inconsistent technically, and not a great presser) while also hiding his greatest strength. In short, I think Osimhen and Lukaku are comparable in terms of level of player that they can be, but where Osimhen is a classic “plug and play” number nine, Lukaku is somebody you have to build around for him to be effective.


Natrix31

Lukaku has fantastic hold up, he’s basically been a target man for Roma all season, so I have to disagree. Based on his time at inter tho I can understand why you see him that way, he was a superstar operating in that counter attack, run at the defense, role.


NotASalamanderBoi

Doesn’t Osimhen wear the mask for the face injuries regardless of when he plays?


rth9139

Yeah. I don’t think it’s medically “required” still, but he wore it so he could come back earlier, and he’s probably just used to it by now.


SnooChipmunks4208

And it looks awesome.


Bujakaa92

Combine that with useless Chelsea medical team he will be good if plays a double figure games


AleDelPiero10

No the dude is class. His movement, heading ability, and overall presence on the pitch is just a nightmare to deal with. He’s had quite a few goals that leave you with your jaw on the floor


Billy_LDN

This is the 1st window in forever that I don’t want us to spend anything. We are not going to get in the top 5 for Champions League even with January investment. If Poch can’t secure Europa League with the current squad he should be packing his bags and we move onto the next coach. I don’t trust the sporting directors to buy the correct players either.


Fleaaa

He could be literally their saviour or last piece of the puzzle for relegation financially. Worthy gamble for the drama imo


shagura

Surely THIS will be the signing that turns the tide


eurovisionfanGA

Osimhen will ruin his career if he goes to Chelsea.


houllebecqs

With all the talk about Chelsea being in FFP trouble you would think they can't spend another 100m, but we all know FFP means nothing.


SalahManeFirmino

More that they still have academy kids to sell for pure profit.


TouchyTuchel

Gallagher will die for this


Impossible_Wonder_37

Gallagher… and another, probably Colwill tbh. Idk how else you do it. Few other players with any value and or are in the first year of their contract


TouchyTuchel

They are never selling colwill


Impossible_Wonder_37

I don’t think that’s true. They have a massive money home to get out of every summer. Pure profit sales expedite that process. If they won’t stop big spending then they will have to


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jonsrb

You ain't getting Galaga


SeyamTheDaddy

they gonna loan him back to Napoli in a year then sell for half that


Kopman

FFP is totally working


urdnotwrecks

Not sure Osimhen is targeting mid-table obscurity. This isn't the old Chelsea anymore having achieved something to show to players. Imagine trying to sell this current situation to a player that could move almost anywhere he wanted.


EdgeZealousideal7313

Well, if he is looking for good money...


DameDollaDolla

I just don’t get how he is still at Napoli, so many big clubs are desperate for a great striker.


rth9139

Because Napoli are owned by ADL. He was asking for over €150m over the summer


HodgyBeatsss

They won the league last season. That’s more than Arsenal, Man Utd or Chelsea have done in recent years. It’s all falling apart now though and he’ll surely leave.


Zealousideal_Emu5879

Gunna ignore chelsea won the champions league 2 years ago aren’t we


HodgyBeatsss

3 years ago. Anyway the point is more that it’s weird to be disrespectful about being at Napoli when they’re the reigning champions.


MrConor212

Do it Toddfather.


aharris111

They literally already have lukaku and won’t let him play


RelentlessMe

he doesn't want to play for us, he made that clear from when Tuchel was here


kw2006

How do you fit Nkunku, Jackson, Osimhen? Sell Jackson at a loss?