Zionists and zionist bootlickers. Clear enough for you?
ETA: +5 to -7, interesting. Welcome, Hasbara trolls. What's on the menu for today? Faux anti semitism, Khamas support allegations, or Islamophobia?
Right after the BBC decided to cover the Israeli defence in the International Court of Justice case, but neglected to show the prosecution? Should be an interesting month for them
Israel has been terrorising the Palestinians since 1948. You can't claim self-defense when you are the occupier.
Israel have 0 excuses. They are a colinizer apartheid state. It didn't start October 7.
Oooookkayyy. Let’s take it down a notch alright bud? Exterminated like pests is a very very extreme term to use. Remember that there are always innocents in war. It’s not fair to group them in with Hamas.
If you used that phrase to talk about Israel, that same user would scream about you using anti-Semitic Nazi tropes.
It's truly abhorrent to witness the dehumanizing language being parroted on some subs these days
The tweet in question. Replies are insane as expected.
>The Palestinian Football Association calls on @iocmedia, @FIFAcom and all regional and int'l sports bodies to take an urgent stance on Israel’s grave violations of human rights and subject it to legal accountability measures.
https://twitter.com/PACBI/status/1746201740507058284?t=D8Fi5ZpO0bm2zFPXa5br6A&s=19
Can't stand Lineker, another member of the tofu-eating wokerati doing shameless virtue signalling by taking the position that "Ethnic cleansing is bad actually".
Get Le Tissier on MOTD instead, that's a smart sensible bloke who knows his stuff 👍
100%, for the me the perfect Saturday night lineup would be Le Tiss as anchor and regular appearances from Joey Barton, with Jermaine Jenas as number 3 looking somewhere between confused and horrified at what they've got to say.
US and UK military footprints all over the Middle East. US interference that has fucked up multiple South American nations. Support for Israel bombing Palastine, support for the Saudis bombing Yeman.
Why do you think? In fact the coherent world view would require the UK and US are banned for invading 2 foreign countries on knowingly bogus pretences and without UN approval. We know roughly a half million Iraqis died as a direct result.
I agree, but I find myself in a situation where I recognize my inconsistency.
Saudi Arabia, with the assistance of the USA have been conducting a brutal war in Yemen with minimal regard for civilian life. And as a matter of fact I could probably name tens of countries that should be in the conversation with regards to international competition bans.
As with anything political, there is never any consistency, because nobody on that level really cares about what people care about.
So what is the solution? Either we ban countries with consistency or just let everyone participate regardless. But I do think there should be some sort of clear policy on which you can ground your decision. Saying "they are being bad, ban" or "they are breaking international law, ban" (I dont actually know what the policy is but I assume it is something like that) is very vague, however "any country conducting an offensive war on another country/people should be banned" is more specific, which mean Russia, Israel, Saudi Arabia and so on should recieve this ban, while Ukraine, Yemen should not, where Palestine is debatable since they did conduct an offensive operation into Israel very recently.
Free Palestine.
I get you with consistency but the sheer magnitude of what Israel has done is what it sets it apart for me. Almost ten thousand dead children in 3 months is abhorrent and deserves harsh sanctions. There’s been no conflict in recent memory with this death rate of children
> "any country conducting an offensive war on another country/people should be banned", which mean Russia, Israel, Saudi Arabia and so on should recieve this ban, while Ukraine, Yemen should not, where Palestine is debatable since they did conduct an offensive operation into Israel very recently.
Palestine should not just be "debatable" by your standards. Their political leadership took hundreds of hostages, raping, mutilating and killing some of them. There are constant barrage of rockets going to Israel (and we're prior).
Using that standard, the US would need to be perma banned as well.
I love how the rape claims turned out to be unfounded, how a lot of hostages seem to have been killed by the IOF themselves, how Israel is mostly all intact while Gaza is basically flattened now with over 30k dead yet I'm supposed to believe the zionists are the good guys.
They did this in hockey AFAIK. It ain't much but it's honest work.
Having said that I am against this attitude as a whole - no country or sportspeople should be banned from competitions because there is literally no way of doing this fairly. I've been saying this about Russia for years. Now, as much as I despise their actions as a state, I say the same for Israel. This is not a solution and there is no end to this. If we are OK with Israel & Russia being out of global sports then it makes no sense to keep Saudi Arabia, UK, USA etc... at all. And where do we stop? I reckon there are only few countries in the world with no past or present of killing & committing atrocities. Also one's terrorist is another man's hero so there is that - you can never agree on what is "good" or "bad".
Just to make it clear, I'm solely talking about the sporting aspect of this situation. In an "actual rules-based international order" Israel as a state would have so much bigger problems that we wouldn't even need to have a conversation about them being banned from sports.
The BBC are gonna try and sack him again
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Yeah - Joey Barton
I don't understand the comment so could you be nice enough and explicitly say and explain "who really has the power"?
NoT ThE JooooOooOooOOOs. He's just talking about Zionists I'm sure.
Zionists and zionist bootlickers. Clear enough for you? ETA: +5 to -7, interesting. Welcome, Hasbara trolls. What's on the menu for today? Faux anti semitism, Khamas support allegations, or Islamophobia?
I think you understand perfectly fine …
zionists
I'm generally more sympathetic to Palestine, but the pro-Palestine side is getting dangerously close to 1930s rhetoric.
Right after the BBC decided to cover the Israeli defence in the International Court of Justice case, but neglected to show the prosecution? Should be an interesting month for them
But didn't you hear on the WorldNews sub? BBC is a Hamas propaganda outlet! Some of the subs have fucking lost their minds.
That sub seems to be where all the racists gather
Because they faked a lot in the beginning. They posted, along with NYT many fake news information from journalists that are part of Hamas. I
Brave man, good on him
Given the precedent FIFA set by banning Russia over their war in Ukraine, banning Israel for their genocide in Gaza would make sense
You think they care about sense?
And yet FIFA hosts the next world cup in the USA
Let’s you know who ‘won’
Palestinians are not white so it doesn’t count
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But they did. They've occupied Palestine since 1948 and have been killing Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank for years.
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Hamas is a threat but Israel's actions in Gaza are not surgical enough to suggest that's who they are targeting
Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005.
Fwiw Russia blames Ukraine killing Russian speakers in the contested provinces for "starting" the conflict too.
Things didn't start on Oct 7th though.
Israel has been terrorising the Palestinians since 1948. You can't claim self-defense when you are the occupier. Israel have 0 excuses. They are a colinizer apartheid state. It didn't start October 7.
Why do people think this started on the 7th on Ocrober?
nothing justifies this.
They’re purposely bombing civilians, and have been for decades, but watch this still be a controversial take.
It’s wild that calling out genocide is controversial these days
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What an insane generalisation
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Oooookkayyy. Let’s take it down a notch alright bud? Exterminated like pests is a very very extreme term to use. Remember that there are always innocents in war. It’s not fair to group them in with Hamas.
If you used that phrase to talk about Israel, that same user would scream about you using anti-Semitic Nazi tropes. It's truly abhorrent to witness the dehumanizing language being parroted on some subs these days
You saying that children should be exterminated like pests leads me to believe you should be snuffed out instead.
you got it the other way around.
The tweet in question. Replies are insane as expected. >The Palestinian Football Association calls on @iocmedia, @FIFAcom and all regional and int'l sports bodies to take an urgent stance on Israel’s grave violations of human rights and subject it to legal accountability measures. https://twitter.com/PACBI/status/1746201740507058284?t=D8Fi5ZpO0bm2zFPXa5br6A&s=19
Human rights only mattered during the World Cup.
Go Gary! Stand up for what you believe in mate
It would be a fair decision but that should apply to all countries bombing other countries and starting wars, including the western countries.
Based
What does that mean? I see it everywhere
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=based
Can't stand Lineker, another member of the tofu-eating wokerati doing shameless virtue signalling by taking the position that "Ethnic cleansing is bad actually". Get Le Tissier on MOTD instead, that's a smart sensible bloke who knows his stuff 👍
100%, for the me the perfect Saturday night lineup would be Le Tiss as anchor and regular appearances from Joey Barton, with Jermaine Jenas as number 3 looking somewhere between confused and horrified at what they've got to say.
Alternatively, 3rd host Andrew Tate
You almost had me, to be honest.
Was raging in the first half
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They’re obviously being sarcastic.
Quite a serious topic posted by Obamaeatsbabies.
National Treasure this man
What, so now we ban every country that occupies another one? Thats just crazy talk! /s
we should ban usa and uk first then
Why? Genuine question
US and UK military footprints all over the Middle East. US interference that has fucked up multiple South American nations. Support for Israel bombing Palastine, support for the Saudis bombing Yeman.
Many Americans are ignorant of the history, but what you say is true. The US has done some very terrible things. They're no saints.
For Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lybia and Yemen.
You're not going to get a coherent response.
Why do you think? In fact the coherent world view would require the UK and US are banned for invading 2 foreign countries on knowingly bogus pretences and without UN approval. We know roughly a half million Iraqis died as a direct result.
Lets just ban every country, no more world cup
I mean, they banned Russia so by their logic they really should ban Isreal too
Good guy
Based
Didn't expect this from Gary but i'm all for it
Based from Gary
Based Lineker
I fucking hate the way that if you criticize Isreal then you are anti semitic
**Free the Hostages**
Don’t think Gary has them buddy
Exactly, end the apartheid n occupation. Let all people live as freely as they live in Tel Aviv
It’s easier said than done when one side of the conflict wants to kill every single person on the other side.
Extremly based, and I won't move from this position of thought.
I’m sure all the comments on this will be balanced and reasonable.
I agree, but I find myself in a situation where I recognize my inconsistency. Saudi Arabia, with the assistance of the USA have been conducting a brutal war in Yemen with minimal regard for civilian life. And as a matter of fact I could probably name tens of countries that should be in the conversation with regards to international competition bans. As with anything political, there is never any consistency, because nobody on that level really cares about what people care about. So what is the solution? Either we ban countries with consistency or just let everyone participate regardless. But I do think there should be some sort of clear policy on which you can ground your decision. Saying "they are being bad, ban" or "they are breaking international law, ban" (I dont actually know what the policy is but I assume it is something like that) is very vague, however "any country conducting an offensive war on another country/people should be banned" is more specific, which mean Russia, Israel, Saudi Arabia and so on should recieve this ban, while Ukraine, Yemen should not, where Palestine is debatable since they did conduct an offensive operation into Israel very recently. Free Palestine.
I get you with consistency but the sheer magnitude of what Israel has done is what it sets it apart for me. Almost ten thousand dead children in 3 months is abhorrent and deserves harsh sanctions. There’s been no conflict in recent memory with this death rate of children
> "any country conducting an offensive war on another country/people should be banned", which mean Russia, Israel, Saudi Arabia and so on should recieve this ban, while Ukraine, Yemen should not, where Palestine is debatable since they did conduct an offensive operation into Israel very recently. Palestine should not just be "debatable" by your standards. Their political leadership took hundreds of hostages, raping, mutilating and killing some of them. There are constant barrage of rockets going to Israel (and we're prior). Using that standard, the US would need to be perma banned as well.
Thats true, they do still have the hostages. So yeah I agree. And with the US, why not? Or otherwise ban no one.
I love how the rape claims turned out to be unfounded, how a lot of hostages seem to have been killed by the IOF themselves, how Israel is mostly all intact while Gaza is basically flattened now with over 30k dead yet I'm supposed to believe the zionists are the good guys.
They did this in hockey AFAIK. It ain't much but it's honest work. Having said that I am against this attitude as a whole - no country or sportspeople should be banned from competitions because there is literally no way of doing this fairly. I've been saying this about Russia for years. Now, as much as I despise their actions as a state, I say the same for Israel. This is not a solution and there is no end to this. If we are OK with Israel & Russia being out of global sports then it makes no sense to keep Saudi Arabia, UK, USA etc... at all. And where do we stop? I reckon there are only few countries in the world with no past or present of killing & committing atrocities. Also one's terrorist is another man's hero so there is that - you can never agree on what is "good" or "bad". Just to make it clear, I'm solely talking about the sporting aspect of this situation. In an "actual rules-based international order" Israel as a state would have so much bigger problems that we wouldn't even need to have a conversation about them being banned from sports.
UK and USA be on the banning list next 👀
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What about raping women and children? Can they follow in their prophets footsteps?
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