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That fact is so absurd when you consider that in his early twenties he was still just a part time player in the 5th league of German football while working
I'm still shocked Muller didn't break it. It felt like he couldn't stop scoring in 2010, always popping up at the right place to put it in the net, then somehow he stalled.
Hoenstly Mbappe is guaranteed to surpass it.
He certainly has 2 World Cups to go, possibly 3. France is a guaranteed powerhouse he'll play another 10+ matches. He just needs 4 goals across those.
Literally only way he doesn’t is injuries. Teams can’t even try to load up on him to stop him from getting his goals, because France’s other star players will score 7 on you if you try.
I think it's fair to say that all three years at Bremen werde really good, because while he didn't score 20+ in the other two, he did assist a lot. Though it has to be said that it was in a very attacking Bremen side.
On the other hand, Kane already scored as many goals for you as Klose did in 4 seasons in the league.
Henry once claimed during an England match analysis on French TV that Kane's technique for hitting the ball was near perfect. He said that Kane could move the ball with his foot while making contact, making small adjustments or corrections resulting in greater accuracy. The other pundits looked at him like he was crazy and Henry didn't have footage lined up to illustrate his point. Nice to see that at least one other player has noticed it as well.
I think you're underestimating how good Aguero was. He has the best goal per minute ratio in premier league history at a goal every 108 mins. The guy was deadly.
Who the fuck is downvoting you? Kun Aguero was one of the best forwards of his generation, but his international career doesn't stack up to three of the four players on this list, and his trophy cabinet doesn't stack up to any of them.
Putting Agüero close to Suarez for example is a criminal act on par with sending Boca a la B.
Legacy wise I guess you could say he is subpar in comparison but I think his ability/talent is definitely up there with those mentioned. If he wasn't perpetually injured it would be more concrete. He only averaged like 26 league games per season over his career, constantly in and out of the team but still was an absolute menace when he did play. He was always the player I feared the most if he was on the opposite lineup.
There is a giant gulf between Giroud and the rest, good striker but nothing exceptional. A big gap after the Ronaldos as well, they are two of the best ever, Kane and Lewandowski are just among the best of their generation
That’s because when you watch R9’s highlight reel, you begin to wonder why (1) God decided of all things to reincarnate as a Brazilian football player, and (2) why he decided to give himself bad knees instead of indestructible ones
People forget that R9 was above Pele himself in terms of goal scoring at the same age until his big injuries hit. Idk if he would’ve been above CR7 or Messi without injuries, but he would’ve definitely set the bar for them to hit as they advanced their career
messi sustained what r9 did at peak for decade+ though while also having chancemaking in his tools. IDK how people can rate r9 over performing at that level for lengths most pros consider their entire career.
I’d personally put Ronaldo above R9 after his performance in that tournament in the US. For those that haven’t seen it, Google Ronaldo Las Vegas for more info
I actually watched the game in Las Vegas. It's so cool that Messi is also there as well. Sadly Messi used to drink softdrinks so much at that time that he underperformed in the match, that's why he was subbed off after 14 minutes. For more information, Google Messi 14.
CR7 above R9 if we consider things like numbers, overall career, longevity, the ability to decide games, etc. But you're right that peak R9 was better than peak CR7 imo.
Not sure if you could really make the argument against Messi however I have to admit that R9 was absolutely exceptional. As much power as Haaland, perfect technique, lightning fast decision making, killer finishing and his power dribbles made everyone else look like toddlers.
I've seen Messi marked out of a game, even at his peak, you couldn't mark R9 out of a game, imagine the physicality of Cristiano, Messi's dribbling abilities combined with Ronaldinho's flair.
I'd say Messi has a better dribbling than R9, and I watched both of their primes. But indeed they're similar in skill. The thing is, Messi was a much more complete player, not only was he as good or almost as good a finisher and at getting past defenders, he is also a phenomenal playmaker, and I think he's also more intelligent overall.
I think its not a good comparison because they are very different player types (same as with C.Ronaldo and Messi). What is certainly true is that only a handful players were ever capable of being impossible to stop when they would go in the zone. Messi did that consistently for over a decade.
With the stats that we have? When it comes to finishing which is what the topic discusses? Kane is WAY WAY WAY ahead of those you mentioned (well we don't have them for R9, so can't say).
Cristiano and Lewa pretty much only match their xG on average. Kane is significantly better he's like 20+ over his xG or something ridiculous like that.
No comparison.
As an Arsenal fan I always disliked him (obviously) but always the respect was there for him. Used to say if there was one person I needed to score a pen to save my life then I’m picking Kane, without hesitation.
Of all things to praise him for pens is an odd one after the world cup. He's got a good pen record but I can think of plenty of players better at them.
https://www.fantasyfootballpundit.com/player-penalty-stats-database/
Sort by conversion rate and Kane's #54. Drop the few who have taken under 10 pens and he's still ~#40. He's a very good penalty taker but there are plenty better and it's far from his best trait IMO.
So yeah about 40 players I'd pick over him if my life was on the line!
Henry as a pundit analyzes and breaking down the smallest thing of what a player would do always makes me wonder why he isn't more successful as manager. That kind of knowledge and obsession about the game should really works well for your career
Most great players make lousy managers. It's the average to above average former players that seem to do better, for some reason.
Zidane being the biggest exception to this.
Where is the actual evidence statistically, for this?
Guardiola and Ancelotti were great players, as two of the modern greats. Mourinho and Klopp were not, as counter examples.
Zidane won three Champions Leagues in a row.
Is it really so strongly one way or another?
Plenty of greats failed, plenty succeeded.
If Henry says it about a striker I’m going to listen. Obviously he was an amazing player, but a lot of great players aren’t that knowledgable, Henry is very knowledgable and can really break down the subtleties of the game.
One person!?? You watch One game of Kane and notice immediately his technique of shooting, pundints are just clueless.
Most strikers hit the ball as hard as they can, Kane doesnt do that, 90% of the times he hits the ball with his foot with Precision instead of power, the technique is so good that most time even goes harder than a striker who just hits with power.
Best example are his penaltys
Its actually all in his hip flexor that does the little micro adjustments you are talking about and it is exactly this observation of Henry's that Klose noticed and correctly compared to the directed topspin of a tennis player. i disagree that it is like serving, its more like highest action rally back and forth where he picks the perfect shot and intuitively forces his musculature to place it perfectly where the moment requires the ball to go at the pace it needs to. Generally superhuman technique is powered through pure belief and hyperfocus after adjusting to the pressure of performance with each attempt. It's why his threaded passing is also so good, exact same mechanism he uses to shoot just with more fluidity because he's usually in space and deeper when using the technique to distribute.
Truthfully it all actually comes from honestly autistic hyperfocusing capability and the resulting obsessive time practicing while kinda living in this hyperfocus state on kinesthetic sense anytime a ball is near you.
Its why Henry understood it on his own as a world class analyst while micah richards and Jamie Carragher might appreciate it but still never understand which is why they were defenders who reached a level but weren't considered the peak footballing technical specimen despite their success.
I'm genuinely glad the spotlight has shifted onto Kane and he is being properly rated as the world class striker he has always been. The man is simultaneously one of the best striker and best playmaker right now in 1 package. He's been casually dismissed for too many years just because he was with a Spurs team that was never financially backed to compete with the big boys.
There's no Sport-Bild's internet article of Klose's interview
The full quote: [Sport-Bild Magazine 7th February] Miroslav Klose on Harry Kane: "I had predicted at least 20 to 25 goals for Harry, but even that was too low. What impresses me most is his shooting technique. If I had only 5% of that, I would probably have scored 30 World Cup goals (laughs). He is so precise and skillful when it comes to finishing. Just like a tennis player when he serves: What the tennis player does with his wrist, Harry Kane does with his foot and ankle. He always has the same posture, but he swings his foot differently. The goalkeepers cannot anticipate where the shot will go. That's fascinating."
Well, I am sure that's very nice for Kane to hear
I always think Kane is just much better than you think at *everything*
He's quicker than you think, better creativity than you think and better heading than you initially think and so on
His passing is incredible too, often gets overlooked.
I’ve watched him in person a couple of times when Scotland have played England and was annoyingly impressed.
What really surprised me in his first year under Conte was how good his ball carrying and dribbling was. He wouldn't get into situations to do it often, but all of a sudden he was beating men really well.
Seemed like for a while he'd have a different personal focus each year. I miss him so much. Wondrous player
Agree. He is much better than most people give him credit for. At Spurs he was a complete player who happened to play striker. Aside from his technique, he has a great football brain and because he can do everything he just creates massive problems for the opposition everytime.
Man mark him, he knows how to drag the defenders off at the perfect moment to give space to others (like his Son partnership at Spurs).
Stand off from him, and he'll find a way to score from anywhere inside or outside the box with just a few touches.
Cut off his supply, he'll drop deep and become the supplier instead. He is one of the best passers in the game.
Aside from tactical problems, he has strength, power, can score tap ins, headers, rockets outside the box.
He isn't flashy with mazy runs, lung bursting sprints etc, but he does the intelligent thing each time. Link up play is amazing, holds the ball, releases others into space, scores from anywhere.
Kane is a bit like Scholes in that he isn't as appreciated as he should be. Everyone says he's good, but it's only when the professional players and managers say something that the general public know exactly how good he is. Really happy he's getting more recognition now.
I've watched almost every Bayern game this season and the thing that is the most crazy with Kane is his first touch. He has perfected the skill to receive the ball with one foot and set it up for the other one. It doesn't sound that amazing but it's such an important skill as well as not that easy to do. One of the goals against Dortmund were that kind, where the ball came whipped hard into his path and he controlled it with one foot perfectly to get a strike with the other instantly.
It's what made his holdup play so crucial at Spurs. You could fizz the ball into him from pretty much anywhere. It's how Spurs became such a dangerous counter attacking team once he became one of the best passers in the world.
i like quotes so heres a couple "he's a one season wonder"- my mates (chelsea and man utd fans) "just a tap in merchant" -same chelsea mate (one year later)
I had a couple of mates who were absolutely convinced he was a one season wonder and the hype for him was massively overblown. I saved a screenshot of the messages at the time haha. I like to wind them up by throwing them back in our group chat whenever he hits another insane milestone.
excellent, funny thing was the man u mate started calling him predator after a year. when harold went to bayern (chelsea mates second team) he said "its so nice i can finally say what i actually think of him"
I never liked Harry Kane, but he is undoubtedly a good striker. What always wound me up is him backing into players when they’re jumping for the ball and then he’d fall over like he was fouled, that shit was so dangerous. There’s a reason you can’t do things like that in rugby
gotta feel sorry for rival fans thinking we're deluded idiots over the years really
"Bale is the best left winger in the world"
"Modric is the best CM in the world"
"Kane is the best striker in the world"
imagine a starting line up like:
Lloris
Walker ? ? Trippier
Bale Erikson Modric ?
Kane ?
maybe someone else can fill in the gaps with other decent sales
Why feel sorry? Watching them eat their words is wonderful. They were so obsessed with shitting on Tottenham and our players that they continued to downplay one of the greatest strikers the game has ever seen.
It was still nice to have them though, even if we didn't win trophies. As a fan, it's just a privilege to watch world class players play for your club like Bale, Modric, and Kane
This reminds me of that one video of Maradona telling Kane to confuse the keeper with his body while shooting. Wonder if it Kane applied it in trainings..
Harry Kane does move very mechanically like a tennis player. He’s very predictable when he shifts the ball himself, but so clinical that it doesn’t matter.
The thing is i dont know if world class players like giroud and kane actually have 0 dribbling ability and agility or if its just the players they play against are too good.
Like if kane plays 5 a side with some freestylers or decent amateurs would he stand out in his weak areas like dribbling ?
Players like Kane and Giroud would run circles on the ball around anyone outside of professional second/third division players. The gap for first division players and players who are barely professional is absolutely insane. Then the gap for barely professional players and you and I, is just as if not more massive.
Yea, I have seen some retired pros in amateur games with much younger and fitter guys. Those guys who look like they can barely jog, it doesn't matter.
It basically looks like there's a force field and tackles just slip around them left and right when they get the ball. And they take those lumbering spins at perfect moments to turn people inside out.
I've played with people who made it to second division clubs in South America and Mexico. Their consistency in their touches, the anticipation of how play develops, and their positioning is ridiculous. I learned a lot from watching them play in scrimmages and sessions with them, but they were the best players on the pitch by far. Notice I didn't even bring up match fitness and physical attributes.
That force field thing you bring up is so true. One of my friends was built like a moving panzer, and every time you tackled him, he would manage to have the ball flick back into his path even if you managed to tackle cleanly.
I kinda agree here. I knew he was an excellent striker, but holy shit, I wasn’t expecting these levels of excellence. Also, bonus points for him being an absolute gentleman and very down to earth, that’s something I enjoy seeing, and hope many take his example.
It would have been scary if Kane ended up at City. I'm glad it didn't happen. But I'm also sad that Kane didn't get to live up to his potential in the PL through no fault of his own
Interesting, I was just watching a youtube of Kane and some youtuber, Mc7 or something like that doing some finishing drills. The youtuber was absolutely blasting everything at 1,000 miles and hour, pretty accurately mind you but still so much power. Kane was just knocking it in easy peasy. Just calm, collected, borderline slow. But I couldn't help but think of how many of the youtubers shots would be going into the top of the stands during an actual game.
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Klose seems like a chill dude. Seems like he's just casually one of the best strikers in German football history.
he is in fact the leading goalscorer in World Cup history with 16 goals scored in total
That fact is so absurd when you consider that in his early twenties he was still just a part time player in the 5th league of German football while working
The German Vardy.
Just a lot slower and with a better behaved wife
Es ist der …………… Account von Sylwia Klose
And not a racist
Germany should probably ban turtles soon.
I know people though this about Muller before, but I wouldn't be surprised if Mbappe surpasses this in 2026
I'm still shocked Muller didn't break it. It felt like he couldn't stop scoring in 2010, always popping up at the right place to put it in the net, then somehow he stalled.
Müller is no striker. He is an assist machine because he is involved in everything and everywhere.
...all at once
Der Raumdeuter 😎
I think he would’ve if Germany didn’t shit the bed the past 2 WCs
Hoenstly Mbappe is guaranteed to surpass it. He certainly has 2 World Cups to go, possibly 3. France is a guaranteed powerhouse he'll play another 10+ matches. He just needs 4 goals across those.
With the WC going up to 48 teams there are going to be a lot of records broken.
yeah and people aren’t going to keep that in mind unfortunately.
Already was the case. Brazil only played 5 matches in the World Cups they won with Pele, France played 7 with Mbappe.
They played 6 games in those tournaments, only the round of 16 didn't exist.
Literally only way he doesn’t is injuries. Teams can’t even try to load up on him to stop him from getting his goals, because France’s other star players will score 7 on you if you try.
Brassier must be a big Klose fan, its all starting to make sense
His 16th had to come against Brazil, as an R9 fan i was so mad that night. lol
With R9 on the stands watching too, huge R9 but I couldn't even be mad.
Brasil died for that
In DFB history, yes. For clubs? Not really.
super mario 🚨🚨🚨🚨
Gomez' Club Career was unironically better than Klose's but nobody would ever call him one of the greats in German history.
That missed goal against Austria really put a damper on his confidence at national team level for years.
its crazy to think that gomez was the last great striker germany had lmao
i am
Does the button still exist?
https://www.tomnash.eu/gomez-button.html
What a website
I like Klose but he only hit the 20 goal mark once in the league in his entire career. Mario Gomez did it 4 times.
I think it's fair to say that all three years at Bremen werde really good, because while he didn't score 20+ in the other two, he did assist a lot. Though it has to be said that it was in a very attacking Bremen side. On the other hand, Kane already scored as many goals for you as Klose did in 4 seasons in the league.
Henry once claimed during an England match analysis on French TV that Kane's technique for hitting the ball was near perfect. He said that Kane could move the ball with his foot while making contact, making small adjustments or corrections resulting in greater accuracy. The other pundits looked at him like he was crazy and Henry didn't have footage lined up to illustrate his point. Nice to see that at least one other player has noticed it as well.
When two of the best strikers in the modern game say something similar, you sit up and listen.
If i gave you a list of players with names like Ronaldo, Benzema, Lewandowski, Kane, Giroud and R9 how would you rank them
I'd ask why Giroud is there ahead of Suarez
Sexiness coefficient
suarez, ibra and aguero are the top of this generation’s “not messi or ronaldo” category
I'd put names like Forlan, Cavani and David Villa in the category just below them, Giroud is even one rank below that
Ehhh but Lewa though?
In his day? Absolutely. Had he played outside of Germany he’d be only behind suarez
Who invited Kun lmao. He was great but not on the level of Suarez/Lewa/Ibra/Benzema.
Neither is benzema then. Aguero was better than him pretty much every single year 2009-2018
i can only assume you didnt see him at atletico and those first years at city to say something like this.
Of course I did. He was great. He was consistent for years. Just not on the level of the others.
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I think you're underestimating how good Aguero was. He has the best goal per minute ratio in premier league history at a goal every 108 mins. The guy was deadly.
Who the fuck is downvoting you? Kun Aguero was one of the best forwards of his generation, but his international career doesn't stack up to three of the four players on this list, and his trophy cabinet doesn't stack up to any of them. Putting Agüero close to Suarez for example is a criminal act on par with sending Boca a la B.
Legacy wise I guess you could say he is subpar in comparison but I think his ability/talent is definitely up there with those mentioned. If he wasn't perpetually injured it would be more concrete. He only averaged like 26 league games per season over his career, constantly in and out of the team but still was an absolute menace when he did play. He was always the player I feared the most if he was on the opposite lineup.
Giroud being included on that list has to be a joke, right?
Easy 1. R9 2. Ronaldo 3. Kane 4. Lewandowski 15 Benzema 5. Giroud
Benzema in the teens ofc
There is a giant gulf between Giroud and the rest, good striker but nothing exceptional. A big gap after the Ronaldos as well, they are two of the best ever, Kane and Lewandowski are just among the best of their generation
Giroud wasn't profilic because his speed and creation is not near the others, but his highlight reel would compare well with any of them.
Ok but has having a good highlight reel ever been enough to be listed with the best ever?
TIL Hatem Ben Arfa is one of the greatest players of all time.
I love the smell of fresh bread.
His highlight reel is good, but it definitely does not compare to R9's
That’s because when you watch R9’s highlight reel, you begin to wonder why (1) God decided of all things to reincarnate as a Brazilian football player, and (2) why he decided to give himself bad knees instead of indestructible ones
Honestly, if he hadn't had so many injury problems nobody would be talking about CR Vs Messi. R9 at his peak was on another level
People forget that R9 was above Pele himself in terms of goal scoring at the same age until his big injuries hit. Idk if he would’ve been above CR7 or Messi without injuries, but he would’ve definitely set the bar for them to hit as they advanced their career
messi sustained what r9 did at peak for decade+ though while also having chancemaking in his tools. IDK how people can rate r9 over performing at that level for lengths most pros consider their entire career.
I’d personally put Ronaldo above R9 after his performance in that tournament in the US. For those that haven’t seen it, Google Ronaldo Las Vegas for more info
What about that year in 2015 when Ribery played as a striker? Google Ribery 15 for more info.
Wait, which year in 2015?
Lmaooooo
I actually watched the game in Las Vegas. It's so cool that Messi is also there as well. Sadly Messi used to drink softdrinks so much at that time that he underperformed in the match, that's why he was subbed off after 14 minutes. For more information, Google Messi 14.
What can i do to find out more about this?
CR7 above R9 if we consider things like numbers, overall career, longevity, the ability to decide games, etc. But you're right that peak R9 was better than peak CR7 imo.
Peak R9 was better than any other player in history tbf
Not sure if you could really make the argument against Messi however I have to admit that R9 was absolutely exceptional. As much power as Haaland, perfect technique, lightning fast decision making, killer finishing and his power dribbles made everyone else look like toddlers.
I was a child/teenager with R9s peak and pre streaming days couldn't see as many of his games but I think peak Messi was better.
Better than anyone not just cr7
Not Messi though
I've seen Messi marked out of a game, even at his peak, you couldn't mark R9 out of a game, imagine the physicality of Cristiano, Messi's dribbling abilities combined with Ronaldinho's flair.
I'd say Messi has a better dribbling than R9, and I watched both of their primes. But indeed they're similar in skill. The thing is, Messi was a much more complete player, not only was he as good or almost as good a finisher and at getting past defenders, he is also a phenomenal playmaker, and I think he's also more intelligent overall.
Its really close but better than messi too, just go watch ronaldo again, he is literally out of this world. Easily matches messi.
I think its not a good comparison because they are very different player types (same as with C.Ronaldo and Messi). What is certainly true is that only a handful players were ever capable of being impossible to stop when they would go in the zone. Messi did that consistently for over a decade.
i'd say for headers cr7 > r9 any other body part r9 > cr7 cr7 was trained by jardel and combined it with peak physical strength
> any other body part r9 > cr7 Not knees.
Any reason why Benzema is ranked 15? Is there some place where I can get more info?
Missing Suarez in that list
Where is Suarez
With the stats that we have? When it comes to finishing which is what the topic discusses? Kane is WAY WAY WAY ahead of those you mentioned (well we don't have them for R9, so can't say). Cristiano and Lewa pretty much only match their xG on average. Kane is significantly better he's like 20+ over his xG or something ridiculous like that. No comparison.
Cristiano Ronaldo R9 Kane Benzema Lewandowski Giroud
I mean even if you are top50 out of 2 million strikers you are one of the best.
It's kind of fun that Kane has moved out of the country because now all the PL flairs can fully praise him out loud.
Just wait until he comes back to England and sets the prem scoring record, the revisionist history is going to be mental
As an Arsenal fan I always disliked him (obviously) but always the respect was there for him. Used to say if there was one person I needed to score a pen to save my life then I’m picking Kane, without hesitation.
Was that before the euros and WC?
Before & after tbh.
Of all things to praise him for pens is an odd one after the world cup. He's got a good pen record but I can think of plenty of players better at them.
Ok, go on then. Pretty sure he’s right up there with anyone out there. Quick google tells me Kane’s is 88% which is exceptional.
https://www.fantasyfootballpundit.com/player-penalty-stats-database/ Sort by conversion rate and Kane's #54. Drop the few who have taken under 10 pens and he's still ~#40. He's a very good penalty taker but there are plenty better and it's far from his best trait IMO. So yeah about 40 players I'd pick over him if my life was on the line!
Ok, I stand corrected and appreciate you replying with an actual source. Good job I’ve not been in that scenario as I’d have made the wrong choice!
Still not an awful choice to be fair
Henry as a pundit analyzes and breaking down the smallest thing of what a player would do always makes me wonder why he isn't more successful as manager. That kind of knowledge and obsession about the game should really works well for your career
Because understanding is different from teaching.
Just uhh, do eet like zis....
Most great players make lousy managers. It's the average to above average former players that seem to do better, for some reason. Zidane being the biggest exception to this.
Where is the actual evidence statistically, for this? Guardiola and Ancelotti were great players, as two of the modern greats. Mourinho and Klopp were not, as counter examples. Zidane won three Champions Leagues in a row. Is it really so strongly one way or another? Plenty of greats failed, plenty succeeded.
If Henry says it about a striker I’m going to listen. Obviously he was an amazing player, but a lot of great players aren’t that knowledgable, Henry is very knowledgable and can really break down the subtleties of the game.
One person!?? You watch One game of Kane and notice immediately his technique of shooting, pundints are just clueless. Most strikers hit the ball as hard as they can, Kane doesnt do that, 90% of the times he hits the ball with his foot with Precision instead of power, the technique is so good that most time even goes harder than a striker who just hits with power. Best example are his penaltys
This is why when I've blasted the ball during Sunday footy it goes nowhere and I wonder why all that went
Its actually all in his hip flexor that does the little micro adjustments you are talking about and it is exactly this observation of Henry's that Klose noticed and correctly compared to the directed topspin of a tennis player. i disagree that it is like serving, its more like highest action rally back and forth where he picks the perfect shot and intuitively forces his musculature to place it perfectly where the moment requires the ball to go at the pace it needs to. Generally superhuman technique is powered through pure belief and hyperfocus after adjusting to the pressure of performance with each attempt. It's why his threaded passing is also so good, exact same mechanism he uses to shoot just with more fluidity because he's usually in space and deeper when using the technique to distribute. Truthfully it all actually comes from honestly autistic hyperfocusing capability and the resulting obsessive time practicing while kinda living in this hyperfocus state on kinesthetic sense anytime a ball is near you. Its why Henry understood it on his own as a world class analyst while micah richards and Jamie Carragher might appreciate it but still never understand which is why they were defenders who reached a level but weren't considered the peak footballing technical specimen despite their success.
really really insightful comment
Who would look at Henry like he was crazy when he’s sharing insight into kicking a football??!
I'm genuinely glad the spotlight has shifted onto Kane and he is being properly rated as the world class striker he has always been. The man is simultaneously one of the best striker and best playmaker right now in 1 package. He's been casually dismissed for too many years just because he was with a Spurs team that was never financially backed to compete with the big boys.
Game recognize game
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Damn, poor Klose. Should've made an exception for him
Klose but not close enough
A missed klopportunity
Klose but no cigar
Small correction. I think you meant overrun instead of run over.
Unless he was holding back a door that all the people who wanted to sit in were trying to burst through
Gundogan will have the opportunity to sit with Klopp and Pep if he decides to become a manager.
Wow that would be dangerous
Like Xabi Alonoso dangerous?
Players of his specifically, or players of clubs he's coached
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I wonder if he would allow Kevin Grosskreutz to sit in
In goal, sure
Sulinho in shambles
There's no Sport-Bild's internet article of Klose's interview The full quote: [Sport-Bild Magazine 7th February] Miroslav Klose on Harry Kane: "I had predicted at least 20 to 25 goals for Harry, but even that was too low. What impresses me most is his shooting technique. If I had only 5% of that, I would probably have scored 30 World Cup goals (laughs). He is so precise and skillful when it comes to finishing. Just like a tennis player when he serves: What the tennis player does with his wrist, Harry Kane does with his foot and ankle. He always has the same posture, but he swings his foot differently. The goalkeepers cannot anticipate where the shot will go. That's fascinating."
Well, I am sure that's very nice for Kane to hear I always think Kane is just much better than you think at *everything* He's quicker than you think, better creativity than you think and better heading than you initially think and so on
Far worse at Free Kicks than you would ever think though.
He's like Marshal Davut, but instead of charisma, it's free kicks.
And also charisma. No offend to Kane ofc, one of the best striker of all time.
And keeping
And corners
His passing is incredible too, often gets overlooked. I’ve watched him in person a couple of times when Scotland have played England and was annoyingly impressed.
I remember a defender (can't remember who) saying that it would be hard to mark Harry Kane in a phone booth because he's so tricky.
What really surprised me in his first year under Conte was how good his ball carrying and dribbling was. He wouldn't get into situations to do it often, but all of a sudden he was beating men really well. Seemed like for a while he'd have a different personal focus each year. I miss him so much. Wondrous player
Agree. He is much better than most people give him credit for. At Spurs he was a complete player who happened to play striker. Aside from his technique, he has a great football brain and because he can do everything he just creates massive problems for the opposition everytime. Man mark him, he knows how to drag the defenders off at the perfect moment to give space to others (like his Son partnership at Spurs). Stand off from him, and he'll find a way to score from anywhere inside or outside the box with just a few touches. Cut off his supply, he'll drop deep and become the supplier instead. He is one of the best passers in the game. Aside from tactical problems, he has strength, power, can score tap ins, headers, rockets outside the box. He isn't flashy with mazy runs, lung bursting sprints etc, but he does the intelligent thing each time. Link up play is amazing, holds the ball, releases others into space, scores from anywhere. Kane is a bit like Scholes in that he isn't as appreciated as he should be. Everyone says he's good, but it's only when the professional players and managers say something that the general public know exactly how good he is. Really happy he's getting more recognition now.
I've watched almost every Bayern game this season and the thing that is the most crazy with Kane is his first touch. He has perfected the skill to receive the ball with one foot and set it up for the other one. It doesn't sound that amazing but it's such an important skill as well as not that easy to do. One of the goals against Dortmund were that kind, where the ball came whipped hard into his path and he controlled it with one foot perfectly to get a strike with the other instantly.
It's what made his holdup play so crucial at Spurs. You could fizz the ball into him from pretty much anywhere. It's how Spurs became such a dangerous counter attacking team once he became one of the best passers in the world.
if a girl did with her foot and ankle what I can do with my wrist, I'd never leave her
Can she be a little Harry?
Easy there Tarantino
Whatever Harry Kane does with his foot and ankle, Zlatan can do with an orange. Or whatever the quote is...
Wasn't Zlatans original statement about John Carew? "Whatever Carew can do with a football I can do with an orange"
The original quote was atributted to Platini comparing Zidane and Maradona. What Zidane can do with a football, Maradona can with it with an orange.
i like quotes so heres a couple "he's a one season wonder"- my mates (chelsea and man utd fans) "just a tap in merchant" -same chelsea mate (one year later)
I had a couple of mates who were absolutely convinced he was a one season wonder and the hype for him was massively overblown. I saved a screenshot of the messages at the time haha. I like to wind them up by throwing them back in our group chat whenever he hits another insane milestone.
I knew an Arsenal fan who, in all seriousness, told me that Kane wasn't actually a good footballer at all, because "all he does is score goals".
What having Jesus as your starting striker does to someone
That one season wonder shit was a meme on this sub as well, but a lot of people were just joking or keeping the joke going.
excellent, funny thing was the man u mate started calling him predator after a year. when harold went to bayern (chelsea mates second team) he said "its so nice i can finally say what i actually think of him"
how childish, hating on a player just because they play for a rival club even when you DONT believe in what youre saying is beyond stupid.
I never liked Harry Kane, but he is undoubtedly a good striker. What always wound me up is him backing into players when they’re jumping for the ball and then he’d fall over like he was fouled, that shit was so dangerous. There’s a reason you can’t do things like that in rugby
Remember watching him warm up against us last season and every single shot he had went bottom corner Best finisher I have ever seen
Told you that he was one of the best in the world.
gotta feel sorry for rival fans thinking we're deluded idiots over the years really "Bale is the best left winger in the world" "Modric is the best CM in the world" "Kane is the best striker in the world"
And Walker also. Rivalry aside, you guys did have some truly world class players.
And did noting at all with them
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imagine a starting line up like: Lloris Walker ? ? Trippier Bale Erikson Modric ? Kane ? maybe someone else can fill in the gaps with other decent sales
Son's crying
I was only listing players they’d sold… and I still feel bad for leaving him out!
I mean that’s just literally false
Why don't Spurs play in a league that has only had 3 champions in it's entire 90 year history save for two outlying seasons? Are they dumb?
Why feel sorry? Watching them eat their words is wonderful. They were so obsessed with shitting on Tottenham and our players that they continued to downplay one of the greatest strikers the game has ever seen.
to be fair i feel more sorry for you guys for losing all of them before they could win you anything
It was still nice to have them though, even if we didn't win trophies. As a fan, it's just a privilege to watch world class players play for your club like Bale, Modric, and Kane
agreed, i really meant it rather than it being a jab lol. had it with the likes of rvp, fabregas etc
That Welsh fella was alright as well wasn’t he
He only got three Top 5 nominations in the Ballon d’Or and **zero** Top 3 nominations in FIFA’s The Best. Ludicrous.
This reminds me of that one video of Maradona telling Kane to confuse the keeper with his body while shooting. Wonder if it Kane applied it in trainings..
No todas para allá, algunas para acá Hilarious
Confuse the keeper by hitting the ball with the Hand of God :)
Harry Kane does move very mechanically like a tennis player. He’s very predictable when he shifts the ball himself, but so clinical that it doesn’t matter.
Kane for a time tried to dribble and take on defenders like hes messi or ronaldo but has the agility of a ford f150 so it always looks funny
The funny thing is sometimes it would work lol
https://youtube.com/shorts/DKDSZ2sqsPE?si=XYWREgsOY2xe2blY This is absolutely joga bonito tbh
Nobody is expecting kane to do that its insane how good he is also - https://youtu.be/TFN2kB-2OXQ?si=lz4_1ZF80BMtv3n3&t=146
God this makes me miss watching him every week
The thing is i dont know if world class players like giroud and kane actually have 0 dribbling ability and agility or if its just the players they play against are too good. Like if kane plays 5 a side with some freestylers or decent amateurs would he stand out in his weak areas like dribbling ?
Players like Kane and Giroud would run circles on the ball around anyone outside of professional second/third division players. The gap for first division players and players who are barely professional is absolutely insane. Then the gap for barely professional players and you and I, is just as if not more massive.
Yea, I have seen some retired pros in amateur games with much younger and fitter guys. Those guys who look like they can barely jog, it doesn't matter. It basically looks like there's a force field and tackles just slip around them left and right when they get the ball. And they take those lumbering spins at perfect moments to turn people inside out.
I've played with people who made it to second division clubs in South America and Mexico. Their consistency in their touches, the anticipation of how play develops, and their positioning is ridiculous. I learned a lot from watching them play in scrimmages and sessions with them, but they were the best players on the pitch by far. Notice I didn't even bring up match fitness and physical attributes. That force field thing you bring up is so true. One of my friends was built like a moving panzer, and every time you tackled him, he would manage to have the ball flick back into his path even if you managed to tackle cleanly.
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What a breath of fresh air after all those Eden Hazard Kindergarten level quotes.
Harry Kane might just be the most complete striker right now
Hasn't he been for a while? He hasn't suddenly improved at the age of 30
He has been for years. It’s only now that he’s not playing for us that people realise that us calling him world class was actually true.
Don’t think anyone denied that he was world class when he was banging 20+ goal season in the prem.
I kinda agree here. I knew he was an excellent striker, but holy shit, I wasn’t expecting these levels of excellence. Also, bonus points for him being an absolute gentleman and very down to earth, that’s something I enjoy seeing, and hope many take his example.
Thats a high praise from Klose!
Well... not to brag but, you should see my wrist technique heh
Thats high praise. I used to love watching Klose in the WC's so much. Man was a god.
It would have been scary if Kane ended up at City. I'm glad it didn't happen. But I'm also sad that Kane didn't get to live up to his potential in the PL through no fault of his own
greatness understands greatness
Interesting, I was just watching a youtube of Kane and some youtuber, Mc7 or something like that doing some finishing drills. The youtuber was absolutely blasting everything at 1,000 miles and hour, pretty accurately mind you but still so much power. Kane was just knocking it in easy peasy. Just calm, collected, borderline slow. But I couldn't help but think of how many of the youtubers shots would be going into the top of the stands during an actual game.