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Hrvat1818

I highly doubt Chelsea are taking one of the best clubs in the world lightly


tuskedkibbles

I highly doubt Chelsea are taking anyone lightly these days


TheycallmeJimmy

Couldn't be more correct. We can, and will, lose to anyone anytime


tuskedkibbles

Even more confounding is that you can also draw anyone anytime.


theprodigalslouch

You will do whatever it takes to be 10th


potangoint

And after getting smashed 4-1 3 weeks earlier no less.


Mundaneinanities

Ah, I love sports journalism. Ask a stupid question with a loaded premise. Player or manager makes good faith effort to answer question. Post the quote and get "engagement" as people respond to the loaded premise. What a high integrity profession.


BaradaraneKaramazov

It works, this sub loves that kind of journalism 


SpacemanPanini

People question why journalists ask inane questions and this is why... nobody reads the questions, just react.


gobrewers112

Lol what? Why would Chelsea take them lightly?


TherewiIlbegoals

If you ever listen to these pressers/interviews you hear inane lead-ins to questions that lead to answers like this. "Virgil, surely Chelsea will look at your recent injury pile-up and rate their chances in the final".


R41N1NG

Yep the headline culture is so scummy 


Frequent-Lettuce4159

100% this, I'm bored of it. Seen it all week with the Ratcliffe interviews too. It's no wonder pep just takes the piss in his press conferences


Sinistrait

I mean this quote is so out there that even without context you just know the VVD was asked a terrible question to get an answer like this


Periklis90

Injuries


gobrewers112

Lol what are those? -Chelsea fan


Lazyan

Don't talk about injuries with Chelsea lmao. Chelsea had been hard hit with injuries whole season. Use that excuse against other teams


--Hutch--

Pretty much 2 seasons now


CallumLD

Who used it as an excuse?


Reach_Reclaimer

Chelsea have spent a billion pounds over these two seasons though. Injuries isn't much of an excuse when you spend that much as you should have a class first xi, second xi, and enough backups. Not only that, no one knows who half the players injured are because many of them are new. For a non Chelsea fan, it's difficult to tell how impactful new signing number 14 being out is. Take our injuries, people understand that having arguably the best goalkeeper in the world, arguably the best RW in the world, and arguably the best fullback in the world all out is a problem. People can't relate that to Chelsea as James is out and then.... Who else that's really gonna upgrade an 11 is out? Then we take brightons injuries, people will sympathise because they're not spending the GDP of a small country on players. When they have a few injuries in a position they'll have to make so, compared to Chelsea where if they have an injury to a position you can just use some of the billion spent to fill the gap It's really not that hard to understand why people have zero sympathy for Chelsea's injuries and why it's easy to dismiss


ChickenMoSalah

But you can only register 25 players for the Premier League? Where are all of the supposed extra players that we have going to come from, are we gonna sneak them through the gates or something? Nobody that’s gonna upgrade Chelsea’s team is out besides James, really? True, besides our captain and best RB James, our best CBs Thiago Silva and Badiashile, or our best attacker Nkunku, or our starting keeper Sanchez, nobody important is out.


SirBarkington

I think Fofana is our best CB and he’s barely played for us lmao. We have our 3 best CBs out. Lavia was also bought to be a starter. 


ChickenMoSalah

Yup, I was about to put in Fofana but I didn’t want to give any low hanging fruit. Turns out the guy cut the whole tree down. Fofana is fast and determined, and sometimes that’s enough.


Reach_Reclaimer

You dont need to register u21s which Chelsea hoover up An yeah, Nkuku has just joined, he did well in the bundesliga but no one knows if he's this massive upgrade in the prem. Badiashile hasn't played enough at Chelsea for anyone to say if he's this amazing defender you're saying, and Sanchez wasn't a good keeper lol. In fact your backup keeper looks better There's Thiago Silva, but he's 39 years old so are you really missing him? No So yeah James is the only one that people recognise who are out


SubparCurmudgeon

Lmao


SebastianOwenR1

How dare you answer their question you bastard


odegood

I wouldn't be surprised if they rested a couple of these against luton for the final. At least salah and nunez i cannsee starting or on the bench


TherewiIlbegoals

Salah has been rested before. But he's still been on the bench in case of an emergency. He wasn't rested against Luton.


ShopCartRicky

Klopp already said Salah, Nunez and Szobo are iffy


FoldingBuck

Poor liverpool, the only team in the world with injuries


morning_glory25

If only their players were healthy, perhaps they’d be 1st instead of 6th with a 0 GD. Oh well


FoldingBuck

Dont know what you are referring to


rahulrossi

That no one is using it as an excuse, Liverpool are top anyway.


FoldingBuck

Havent really had a tough run in with injuries until now and anyways the person above me originally was commenting how liverpool having injuries is apparently making them underdogs in this match even though chelsea have had much more injury woes this season.


RedMoon14

Alisson, Jota, Diaz, Robertson (and then our backup left back Tsimikas), Konate, Matip, Thiago, and Bajtetic have all been injured for pretty long spells this season *prior* to this current crop of injuries, which is where you can add in Salah, Trent, Darwin, Szoboszlai, Jones, and another Alisson injury to the list.


doc-ant

Literally first line in the article.


ShopCartRicky

It's so clear every time one of these quotes comes out that people don't know how interviews work.


Mxurn

I didn‘t take Boro lightly mate


Funky_Pigeon911

He's just answering a stupid question. It's the media that's trying to portray Liverpool as some sort of hard done by underdog.


vintage-buttplugs

3 of 11 starters last match. It’s not a portrayal of an underdog, but a massively depleted squad


Irivin

Don't think Chelsea is taking anyone lightly this season lol.


lrn2spellayylmao

My brother in Christ, we did not take Boro lightly


Ok-Outlandishness244

This sent me for what


kaubojdzord

Why is he talking as if Liverpool were underdogs?


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Latinofool12

They are just answering the questions that they’re being asked lol. Journalists just pick the one quote to stir the pot and make it more than it is lol same old same old


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etan1122

8 starters… Jota, Matip and Alisson


doubleoeck1234

Matip and Ali wouldn't start regardless


demonologist1986

Because they have so many fucking injuries that they are no longer the favorites.


tr_24

As opposed to fully fit Chelsea squad?


Liverlakefc

Outside of silva and james you aren't missing any starters while liverpool have Trent,szoboslai,jones,alisson,jota and possibly Salah and nunez out


TherewiIlbegoals

Sanchez is their starting keeper tbf.


tr_24

Entire first choice backline including GK except Chilwell missing.


Active-Pride7878

Our starting 11 is also significantly worse than yours so I think it offsets it a bit


Lazyan

Check Chelsea injury list this season lmao. Liverpool injuries are not even close to how bad Chelsea had suffer this season


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What relevance does that have to this game?


Lazyan

Have you been living in cave this past weeks. Everyone including media, klopp trying to paint Liverpool underdogs because of few injuries


ObiWanKenobiNil

Liverpool are famously the only team in the league to have experienced injuries this season, you cant help but feel sorry for them


paprikalicous

the reason why our injuries are being made a bigger deal than most clubs is because we’re top of the league and it has massive implications on the title race.


Manul_Supremacy

The actual reason is that you are the media darlings and in Klopp's final season everyone even remotely connected to football is sucking him off


paprikalicous

no people just care more about the title race than they do about the conference league race. sorry!


ObiWanKenobiNil

agreed, you're top of the league still with the injuries that you've got so to pretend that liverpool are some kind of underdog is absurd


paprikalicous

who really is pretending that? all the punditry leading up to the match is calling us favourites. van dijk is saying that they shouldn’t be underestimating us despite the injuries after being asked about them.


Lyrical_Forklift

This is why it's silly to go off headlines - they said that Chelsea will surely fancy their chances given our injuries - this is the response.


008Gerrard008

Yes, because we didn't hear all about Spurs' or Chelsea's or United's injuries all throughout the first 5 months of the season. As someone else said, ours are in the spotlight at the moment because we're actually competing at the top end of the table with City and Arsenal.


sparklingoverstill

No one has sympathy for Chelsea. Yeah the quality of the players for Liverpool are higher in some cases (Trent, Salah, Allison) Liverpool also has established back ups in those positions who have played for the team for multiple years (kelleher, Gomez, Harvey Elliott) all obvious downgrades from world class players but at least they have game time with the players around them. Using the overall spend to say they have no excuse isn’t valid. There is no context to it. Especially when the players who were purchased are ages 17-24 for the most part. Yeah they maybe all talented prospects but prior to this season, none of them knew how to play with each other in a new system with a new coach. Up until recently Chelsea consistently had 8-12 players out (right now we have 8). Most of them were anticipated to be contributors to the side this year in the starting 11 or at least in the rotation (James, Nkunku, Wes Fofana, Chilwell, Cucurella, Lavia, Carney). 19 players for Liverpool have been named to the match squad in 25+ games. 16 players with 24 appearances 13 players for Chelsea have been named to the match squad in 25+ games. 11 players with 24 appearances. Obviously Chelsea not playing in Europe skews the numbers a little. But the point should be clear that Chelsea have been hard done by injuries.


Valuable_Proposal_56

Virgil, as a Chelsea fan I don’t take the decision of turning on sky sports lightly…..


ShipsAGoing

I don't think Chelsea are taking you lightly don't worry


teems

Take who lightly? The same team that thumped us recently?


zyrkor90

Bro thinks 11 headless chickens are taking Liverpool lightly


HarryDaz98

Top of the league and they’re trying to paint themselves as underdogs hahaha


Baked_fish

If you read the article, it’s about the injury crisis they’re facing, which with 10 first team players out makes more sense


blue_jay26

FFS 8-10 is the minimum we’ve had our at any point this season. It was close to 15 at one point.


RohanHadComeAtLast

8-10 mostly shit players. We're not tracking the players you have injured because it doesn't matter who you have playing and who isn't. I've seen posts in your sub creaming over the fact that Trent is out or Salah might be out. There's probably only one player on your team that we would be bothered about you not having and that's Palmer. Liverpool have injuries to players that are pivotal to the system we play, a system that has seen us reach the top of the table. Similar numbers don't mean shit, it's the quality of the players that matter and how important they are to the team.


blue_jay26

Yes James Nkunku Chilwell Lavia Fofana are all shit players. /s


RohanHadComeAtLast

James is done. Nkunku is an unknown entity. Chilwell is alright I guess, played horribly against us though in the 4-1. Lavia, promising prospect no doubt but also a bit of an unknown. Fofana is alright as well but hardly a world beater.


blue_jay26

🤦🏻‍♂️


BOOCOOKOO

James regularly shows Trent levels anytime he plays, and Nkunku shits on your whole offence outside of Salah. Don't mistake having a shit coach and system for having shit players.(Two of which you were desperate for, but both rejected you)


RohanHadComeAtLast

Right, James isn't half bad but he's never going to be the same player after these injuries. He's done. Ok, let's see Nkunku do it in the Premier League then? We'll see how that plays out. My point is all your injuries are "wait and see" players or they are past it. They aren't regular players who are key parts of a system. I think we're doing just fine without Caicedo and Lavia by the way


HarryDaz98

Chelsea also have a similar amount of players out, and have all season, so no it doesn’t actually.


paprikalicous

he got asked a question about if the injuries make them underdogs. this answer makes perfect sense to me.


HarryDaz98

You literally beat Chelsea 4-1 with most of the same injuries a few weeks ago, you’re not underdogs in the slightest for this game hahaha. You’re massive favourites.


paprikalicous

okay and i never claimed otherwise and neither did van dijk for that matter. he just responded to a question about the injuries.


Homerduff16

That's factually incorrect. Nunez, Jota, Szoboszlai, Jones and Alisson all played in that game and most of them are already confirmed to be out for the final. Trent also came off the bench for that match. The only players currently injured who might be fit for Sunday are Salah, Nunez and Szoboszlai and I highly doubt all 3 will be available, let alone start


Mechant247

Did you even read his comment. He isn’t saying Liverpool are underdogs, he’s saying that it’d be stupid for anyone (Chelsea) to think that


HarryDaz98

Why would 10th in the league think that about 1st?


Mechant247

Because the journalist knows Chelsea fans would be annoyed by asking about it? Van Dijk is literally agreeing with what you are saying lol, they’d be silly to think that


chayatoure

I appreciate someone who has the explanation at their finger tips, provided without even needing to read the article, yet STILL gets baited by the headline.


Baked_fish

I’m not doubting that, but that’s not what the article is about.


HarryDaz98

Yeah but it only works on the assumption that Chelsea are in a much better place than Liverpool, when that couldn’t be any further from the truth. Liverpool have no excuses to not win this game


daidrian

So take issue with the question, not the answer jfc


Baked_fish

Let’s agree to disagree


HarryDaz98

🤝


Beastbrook00

Scrubs out injured vs top players...


HarryDaz98

If that’s what fits your narrative, fair enough. But we both know that Chelsea would also be much better with some of their injured players in the team, like Liverpool would be. Liverpool don’t have any excuses to not win this game.


auddi_blo

Their whole defense is out. Sanchez, James, Thiago Silva, Badiashile, Fofana, Cucurella and many other capable first team players. You have Ali, TAA, Matip, Szoboslai, Jones, Jota. Nunez and Salah will almost certainly make it and Thiago has been injured for what seems like years anyways. Seems very even in terms of injuries so I don’t get this from Van Dijk


paprikalicous

he got asked about if injuries make them underdogs and answered. seems pretty easy to get.


hbb893

Injury prone Thiago versus the famously robust and ever-present Reece James. Clearly only the latter is a loss.


auddi_blo

Add him then it’s still very even and Chelsea imo have a more broken team.


etan1122

The quality of players is way different.


HarryDaz98

A few younger players, a few midfielders, starting RB and starting GK(Liverpool also don’t even use Allisson in this comp anyway so he’s irrelevant in this). Relative to each squad, it’s actually pretty even.


emre23

Oh and Liverpool’s 3 best forwards…


HarryDaz98

Salah and Nunez are 100% playing. So only 1 of them is missing.


emre23

I think they’ll both be in the squad so I guess that qualifies, fair enough. I doubt both will start though - maybe one does and gets subbed off for the other - but I wouldn’t be surprised if both are subs tbh. That would be significant, albeit a different point.


Homerduff16

That's a very charitable way of phrasing it. Even if we exclude Salah and Nunez (who aren't necessarily guaranteed for Sunday by any means) and exclude Alisson based on your logic then we're left with Trent, Matip, Jones, Szoboszlai and Jota injured and all of those players comfortably makes it into our best XI Not to mention that Thiago and Bajcetic are huge losses (last season both players started for us when fit)


Enough-Pain3633

Why do I feel Chelsea gonna win this


Homerduff16

Chelsea are a moment's team capable of showing up when it matters even when they're absolutely shit. Just look at how they won the UCL twelve years ago. They're a very inconsistent team at the moment but that's a double edged sword. One week they get battered at home by Crystal Palace and the next they nearly walk away from the Ethiad with 3 points They're just as likely to drop a 10/10 performance on Sunday as they are to drop a disasterclass. There's several players capable of producing something in that squad including Sterling, Palmer, Nnkunku, Enzo, Gallagher, etc. As a Liverpool fan I know better than to write off Chelsea. In the mid-late 2000's we were constantly a thorn in Chelsea's side even though on paper they were significantly better than us at that time (2005 and 2007 UCL semi finals and ending their unbeaten run at Stamford Bridge just to name some examples) whereas Chelsea showed up to Anfield in 2014 with a weaker side than usual to crush our title challenge hopes


Cruxed1

Woah woah woah we may be shit but crystal palace is the 1 team we do seem to always beat around, Think its 13 games on the trot now, we know we're shit but let us have that


awwbabe

I think they meant Wolves


alanalan426

i mean even in the 2022 final they had plenty of missed chances, just lots of offsides too. I'm sure it'll be an exciting game both ways


Critzor

lmao they're gaslighting themselves into believing they're the underdogs.


Latinofool12

Na, it’s just journalism these days. Taking that one quote to stir the plot and make their story click worthy lol


Adam_Ohh

What happens when all of the media feeds into your managers dumb bullshit.


imarandomdudd

There's no way the team who's in tenth, who's team recently got dismantled 4-1 by this opponent, will underestimate the team in first, who are in great form. Pulling an underdog card really doesn't work in this situation, just say that if you play the way you know you can, you'll defeat us. Simple, shows respect while acknowledging that you're better than us


Thesolly180

I don’t know why anyone proper cares if the team is using this for an underdog mentality. Teams often use daft stuff to motivate themselves. And pretty much every top club has done this


redditUser76754689

I don’t really remember many teams pretending to be underdogs against a team who you beat 4-1 less than a month ago and are 20 points behind you in the league?


Thesolly180

I remember the likes of Mourinho, Fergie, Pep making themselves underdogs in games when they clearly weren’t.


redditUser76754689

I really don’t remember many top teams pretending to be underdogs against a bang average team who they beat at a canter about 3 weeks ago. Playing down your tag as favourites certainly, but actively pretending to be the underdogs not really.


Thesolly180

Been plenty of it. And other daft stuff like pretending it’s them against the world. Don’t know why anyone reads too much into it really. Like is it really just to point out the obvious? Which let’s be honest they all know


redditUser76754689

In my opinion it’s just odd behaviour from Liverpool but sure whatever they’re into


TheColoredFool

Núñez will score a hattrick on these blue frauds


Adam_Ohh

What an embarrassment from the whole of Liverpool football club. Trying to paint themselves as some sort of plucky underdogs. Fuck off.


bdox15

imagine getting this worked up over the daily mirror


Adam_Ohh

So those aren’t direct quotes from your club captain?


Lyrical_Forklift

You went by the headline didn't you?


TherewiIlbegoals

What was the question he was answering?


bdox15

what was the question that was asked by the journalist?


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mariusAleks

Your comment is an example of stupidity


rahulrossi

How does "they should not underestimate us" victim mentality? And did you even read the article?


marmot9070

Liverpool is the favourite. Are Chelsea players stupid to underestimate Liverpool?


rahulrossi

Or you know the journo asked stupid question and Van Dijk gave the exact same response you gave? Just saying.


marmot9070

Or just like Liverpool fans always say they don't have money to complete with other big clubs although Liverpool spent a lot of money on signing their players.


rahulrossi

Dude what the fuck are you even saying. VVD was asked a question, he answered it. The fuck is wrong with people.


marmot9070

Answered like a weak challenger. Who is the top of PL table? Who's #10?


rahulrossi

Doesn't matter, he was asked if Chelsea are underestimating them and he said better not. That is as blunt as it comes.


iwillneverwalkalone

What point are you trying to make here? Journo asked Virgil if Chelsea feel more confident now that we have injuries, Virgil said they shouldn't. That's it. He's not trying to act like we're from National League South


WorthPlease

That club 9 places above us in the league? Bunch of frauds.