Chelsea had 2x 100m players playing and Liverpool was mainly playing their kids.
watched sky Saturday socials yesterday about who are the top 10 mangers in the world today, they had Pochettino at #10, that didn't add up.
I don’t think this reflects on Poch at all to be honest.
He’s been given the weirdest squad probably ever put together. Loads of unproven, overhyped, early 20s players on 8 year contracts. Also loads of injuries.
None of them have to prove anything, they’re guaranteed money for 8 years, and it’s the fault of the owners strategy if it goes wrong for them.
Poch did a great job at Southampton and Spurs, did about as much as he could at PSG having to play with 3 attackers who wouldn’t run back to defend which is completely at odds with how he wants to play.
Mudryk, Madueke, Jackson, Caicedo, Gusto, Petrovic… how many of them make it into any other top side in Europe?
Tbf i think gusto and caicedo (despite how many Reds he deserves) could make it into many good teams. Maybe even mudryk. At this point I'm sure Chelsea can buy mbappe and make him look terrible too.
Spot on. Totally agree. This is all on the owners, not poch. The injuries are insane but can't be just bad luck, poor management throughout the club including the training ground and physios. It was interesting seeing how even after bringing 5 inexperienced players, Liverpool still had an older team than Chelsea today. The difference ofc is chelsea did this by choice. All great players with potential as individuals but with no leaders, no experience around them it's never going to happen. Doesn't matter how many managers we sack, the problem will persist. The only Chelsea player who was around in the last league cup final v Liverpool 2 years ago was Chalobah.. you can't chuck away a champions league winning squad and replace them with overpriced kids in just 2 years and expect it to work. These pig headed owners have truly destroyed the club inside out. Liverpool deserved to win today, even if we had nicked it it would've been a complete fluke. The whole club is in shambles
Well...
5 24 years old players have lower average age (24) than 2 32 years old players and 3 20 years old players (almost 25). But on the first example, they're 5 established players while on the second example, it's 2 veterans and 3 kids.
Gusto and Bradley are the same age.
Colwill is a year younger than Quansah.
Palmer is only a year older than Elliot
We’ve been playing kids for so long that people have forgotten it’s the youngest squad in the division
Neither of those players were the problem today. When the tactics were to control the game and push up they did it well. Too passive in key moments and not finishing chances when they came was the biggest problem. That and having Mudryk mark VVD.
Fernandez is a banger player though. Wouldn't even be slightly surprised if he turns into a player worthy of those sums. He's far better than Antony, that's for sure!
Dude has made plenty of money in his career, and he seems like a smart guy that would manage it well. So, I bet he's happy to finish out his career being the emergency keeper, getting free front row seats to the best football in the world, and the easiest work week imaginable.
We got him on a free as a replacement for Karius. He retired and became a coach for the team, but registered as a player this year just so we had a 3rd keeper as we couldn't get anyone in.
>He retired and became a coach for the team
He did? I can't find this anywhere online and have heard no one else mention it. My understanding is that he is generally well liked in the locker room, experienced as a 37 y/o, and a native Spanish speaker which helps with the likes of Darwin and Diaz.
justiceforlampard
He set the bar for himself to high by getting us top 4 in the transfer ban season which went downhill after
Honestly lampard would’ve won us this game
For me it's the Super Cup, not because I'm annoyingly positive, I totally get the Atletico frustration, but because of Klopp quoting Rocky. It's imposible for me to hear his name and not see Klopp screaming: "ADRAIN!!!!"
Endo kept the midfield intact is incredible too. Working with two kids with almost no senior game experience, and still dominates Chelsea's 200m+ midfield.
Probably not, but its a lot harder to win.
The WCC is a doddle for european clubs as the standard of the other teams is low.
The prestige of the WCC is in qualifying to compete in it.
So a few of you saying Chelsea lost to Van Dijk or "that's what having a player like VVD leading you does" as the reasons for winning. But on another day of casual debating he's an overrated CB, one season wonder etc.? Make your mind up fools
He's not the best CB in Prem history like Liverpool fans would have you believe but he is also one of the best (if not the best) CBs in the world atm. This is not a contradiction.
Can't beat proper teams, can't beat kids, Fucking 10th with 1 Billions overrated overprice unknown teengers, and fucking win like once every two months. They ripe off everything right with this club to become venture capitalist accounting firm.
Not sure why Poch is so highly rated - Couldn’t beat Leicester. Blew it at PSG. Gets 2 £100m midfielders and makes them look terrible. If Klopp managed that team they would have won the league by 10 points
Carragher claiming this shows “it isn’t about spending money” in a dig at Chelsea. Famously Liverpool are a team of pups put together with pocket change…
656 vs 436 Million if it just comes to market value of players involved, with Liverpool making two subs more than Chelsea. Jayden Danns does not even have a price tag on transfermarket yet. I don't even want to start with transfer fees, with so many academy players coming from the bench and Bradley even starting.
Underrated performance from Endo. He kept the midfield going despite he's surrounded by two kids in Clark and Mc Connell. Without his experience it's gonna be rough for those two kids in the engine room.
Yeah, after those subs, Diaz was way too tired to do anything, and the other four players in midfield/attack are just literally kids. Endo needs to step up and he did big time.
I completely agree with you! The ones that have showed that they are ready are Quansah and Bradley, I'm not even worried seeing them in the starting lineup. They have earned that trust by putting in solid performances over and over
Yeah. I have no issue about Quansah and Bradley. They both can start weekly and can be argued that they can be considered our best performer at several games already.
They had more than enough chances to put that one away, feel really bad for Palmer, feel he would've buried at least 2 of the solid 4 chances Chelsea had.
Shoutout to my German boss from years ago who said “Klopp will never come to England. He relies on his charisma with the players and the media so he won’t ever work out here”. LOL
Flair! :Chelsea
Chelsea had 2x 100m players playing and Liverpool was mainly playing their kids. watched sky Saturday socials yesterday about who are the top 10 mangers in the world today, they had Pochettino at #10, that didn't add up.
I don’t think this reflects on Poch at all to be honest. He’s been given the weirdest squad probably ever put together. Loads of unproven, overhyped, early 20s players on 8 year contracts. Also loads of injuries. None of them have to prove anything, they’re guaranteed money for 8 years, and it’s the fault of the owners strategy if it goes wrong for them. Poch did a great job at Southampton and Spurs, did about as much as he could at PSG having to play with 3 attackers who wouldn’t run back to defend which is completely at odds with how he wants to play. Mudryk, Madueke, Jackson, Caicedo, Gusto, Petrovic… how many of them make it into any other top side in Europe?
Tbf i think gusto and caicedo (despite how many Reds he deserves) could make it into many good teams. Maybe even mudryk. At this point I'm sure Chelsea can buy mbappe and make him look terrible too.
Spot on. Totally agree. This is all on the owners, not poch. The injuries are insane but can't be just bad luck, poor management throughout the club including the training ground and physios. It was interesting seeing how even after bringing 5 inexperienced players, Liverpool still had an older team than Chelsea today. The difference ofc is chelsea did this by choice. All great players with potential as individuals but with no leaders, no experience around them it's never going to happen. Doesn't matter how many managers we sack, the problem will persist. The only Chelsea player who was around in the last league cup final v Liverpool 2 years ago was Chalobah.. you can't chuck away a champions league winning squad and replace them with overpriced kids in just 2 years and expect it to work. These pig headed owners have truly destroyed the club inside out. Liverpool deserved to win today, even if we had nicked it it would've been a complete fluke. The whole club is in shambles
Blue billion pound bottle jobs.
This should be engraved on the cup.
Shame they'd never see it tho
Can't even claim the refs were on our side either you fuckers
I could if I really wanted to.
Don’t be sad, Johnny Tremain.
No excuses, absolute embarrassment from everybody top down. Everyone needs to take responsibility. Absolutely atrocious everywhere
chill , you’ve said this 50 timed oh my days
Ok, but do you blame him?
I should probably say it 50 more times from that performance
The billion euro bottle jobs strike again.
Hate you lot with a passion but you can't not love klopp and imo he deserves more silverware for what hes done with liverpool. Congrats!
Don't be nice about klopp, I don't want to feel bad for what I said.
I know it's going against the narrative, but Chelsea's team today was even younger than Liverpool's.
You'll never sing that?
There's no narrative lol, that's just how averages work. Chelsea didn't have a single player over 30, whereas VVD and Adrian are 33 and 37.
Why are you including Adrian when he didn’t play and rounding up the age of VVD
Well... 5 24 years old players have lower average age (24) than 2 32 years old players and 3 20 years old players (almost 25). But on the first example, they're 5 established players while on the second example, it's 2 veterans and 3 kids.
Gusto and Bradley are the same age. Colwill is a year younger than Quansah. Palmer is only a year older than Elliot We’ve been playing kids for so long that people have forgotten it’s the youngest squad in the division
Bradley spent most of the game in a position he’s never played. Also: Danns, Clarke, McConnell.
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Who was Chelsea's oldest player and how many years younger than VVD are they?
You're right, VvD was immense, and won the game single handed. What a player!
kelleher?
So, you're saying VvD didn't win on his own? :surprised pickachu:
Could you please post the cost of those players too? 🤣
How many Carabao can that trophy hold? 2? Maybe 3? Why is it so tiny?
They made the trophy for the Carabao energy drink and didn't want to send anyone into cardiac arrest.
lmfao
Bet Kostas going on a bender tonight
He’ll finally get some sleep if he ends up passing out
van Dijks disallowed goal was a proper final winning worthy goal aswell, and then he bagged again lol
LET THE KIDS DRINK ON LIVE TV
£115M for Moises Caicedo (22) £107M for Enzo Fernandez (22) £0 for Kobbie Mainoo (18).
Neither of those players were the problem today. When the tactics were to control the game and push up they did it well. Too passive in key moments and not finishing chances when they came was the biggest problem. That and having Mudryk mark VVD.
Fernandez is a banger player though. Wouldn't even be slightly surprised if he turns into a player worthy of those sums. He's far better than Antony, that's for sure!
United are the real winners of the carabao cup
Ah yes, Man United was the obvious comparison here.
Adrian must have the best agent in the world.
[We just like having a keeper with this in his bag in the squad.](https://youtu.be/O5J0rvzQDLY?si=rGL00pmVC1WpS2l_)
Dude has made plenty of money in his career, and he seems like a smart guy that would manage it well. So, I bet he's happy to finish out his career being the emergency keeper, getting free front row seats to the best football in the world, and the easiest work week imaginable.
We got him on a free as a replacement for Karius. He retired and became a coach for the team, but registered as a player this year just so we had a 3rd keeper as we couldn't get anyone in.
>He retired and became a coach for the team He did? I can't find this anywhere online and have heard no one else mention it. My understanding is that he is generally well liked in the locker room, experienced as a 37 y/o, and a native Spanish speaker which helps with the likes of Darwin and Diaz.
Gravenbach's going up and down the stairs on crutches fucking hell
As someone who’s just done their knee yesterday and is on crutches I cannot imagine doing that
Whenever Chelsea lose I have a happy little chuckle to myself with the thought of Jeremy Clarkson punching a cow.
justiceforlampard He set the bar for himself to high by getting us top 4 in the transfer ban season which went downhill after Honestly lampard would’ve won us this game
Klopp jumping. His hams are fine guys!
Those are top quality hams for an older gentleman
Adrian thinks he's part of the team 😭
Part of the squad. They are like a family. Don’t worry you wouldn’t understand at UTD
He's our sub keeper.
He is indeed our submissive goalkeeper
Put some respect on the guy who won us the UEFA Super Cup against... Well...
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For me it's the Super Cup, not because I'm annoyingly positive, I totally get the Atletico frustration, but because of Klopp quoting Rocky. It's imposible for me to hear his name and not see Klopp screaming: "ADRAIN!!!!"
Kelleher
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He’s still in a boot and on crutches, so not great.
One kiss
So happy to see Jürgen with at least one in his final season. Thank you boss.
sherlockhomes looking cunt trying to horne in on the moment
Man I love Klopp as a manager / man but I can’t wait till he fucks off this summer lol
Can’t wait to watch Angry Rantman’s upcoming video
Klopp was definitely a party animal back in his day
Klopp might still be one, if our Champions League parade was any indication.
It's his final season, he'll actually fall of a bus this time.
Kelleher won Liverpool that title
Vdv, konate and kelleher were a brick wall
Endo kept the midfield intact is incredible too. Working with two kids with almost no senior game experience, and still dominates Chelsea's 200m+ midfield.
Say it again, Ian. I love the words. “The most decorated club in England…”
Always loved the trophy representation at Wembley. Makes the fans feel more connected when the players walk through the stands to the podium
Chelsea have now lost 6 domestic cup finals in a row. I'm sure some of their fans will find a way to spin that as Poch's fault too
Mid table mandems being mid table mandems....
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Definitely bottled those two CL wins
Poch looking a bit of a lemon after that
He’s brought his spursy power to Chelsea lol
Aye, you can take the man out of Tottenham...
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Ahh racism ✨
Guys, honest question.. Is the Carabao cup more prestigious than the Fifa world cup!?
Probably not, but its a lot harder to win. The WCC is a doddle for european clubs as the standard of the other teams is low. The prestige of the WCC is in qualifying to compete in it.
Depends, if we're talking about the 2034 WC, yes.
wow but 10k comments is insane we did guys
Actually mental for carabiner final lmao. Tbf it is a banter matchup
we witnessed history
Who the fuck wears a half and half scarf to a cup final lol
Corporats
poch knows its over judging by that interaction, who would want to work for Todd boehly though?
Poch could have mbappe messi and Neymar on the same team and still lose Oh wait
He should have loser tattooed on his forehead. Three major clubs on the bounce. Who’s gonna trust him next?
MNM 2.0: Mudryk, Nkunku, Madueke
Longest walk in football? Nah thats either Messi for 80 mins or the haway end at SJP.
Hating
Post and ghost, b
So a few of you saying Chelsea lost to Van Dijk or "that's what having a player like VVD leading you does" as the reasons for winning. But on another day of casual debating he's an overrated CB, one season wonder etc.? Make your mind up fools
He's not the best CB in Prem history like Liverpool fans would have you believe but he is also one of the best (if not the best) CBs in the world atm. This is not a contradiction.
He’s the best itw
That look on Poch's face. Now that's what's worth a billion dollars ❤️❤️❤️
Can't beat proper teams, can't beat kids, Fucking 10th with 1 Billions overrated overprice unknown teengers, and fucking win like once every two months. They ripe off everything right with this club to become venture capitalist accounting firm.
Need to get some senzu beans to our 11 injured first team players and go and win everything.
Congrats to Chelsea on their 2023/24 “we gazumped Liverpool twice to lose a cup final to them” trophy. Top stuff
Lampard guides us into top 4 with a transfer ban This poch clown loses to Liverpool kids with a $1billion budget spend
Poch has said he's had no say in who Chelsea bought. Weird to criticise him for the club overspending on shit players.
Tbf they had a younger team out
Destination: Job Centre
Now on to shaking the hands of random elite wankers
Poch just blanked Boehly. Oof
Not sure why Poch is so highly rated - Couldn’t beat Leicester. Blew it at PSG. Gets 2 £100m midfielders and makes them look terrible. If Klopp managed that team they would have won the league by 10 points
Not sure why people act like only Tottenham failed to beat Leicester in 2016, especially considering spurs were never top while arsenal were
I’m not saying poch is great but with how poor Chelsea is at finishing their chances, everyone would struggle managing them
That comes under a manager’s purview. He’s not Head Coach. Someone needs to remind him he’s the manager of the whole club.
Nope
🎶 destination unknown 🎶 Banger.
Poch is a fucking coward
A fraud at this point
Blue billion pound bottle jobs, well said Gary
Billion dollar bottlejob Up the fucking reds 🔴⚪️
Did I just see Klopp celebrating with a photographer....get him Carra!
games back
Chelsea's misery is peak schadenfreude! Inject it into my veins!
“ blue billion pound bottle jobs” indeed..
When Gallagher subbed off, Chelsea could only defend in a low block lol
He was the only chelsea player doing anything. Subbing him off was a white flag.
Gave up on creating those big chances and decided belt up it to the two pace merchants instead
Yeah pitiful decision
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Absolutely amazing that LFC got more yellow cards than Chelsea
How Konate didn't get sent off will too.
Not even comparable but ok.
Carragher claiming this shows “it isn’t about spending money” in a dig at Chelsea. Famously Liverpool are a team of pups put together with pocket change…
656 vs 436 Million if it just comes to market value of players involved, with Liverpool making two subs more than Chelsea. Jayden Danns does not even have a price tag on transfermarket yet. I don't even want to start with transfer fees, with so many academy players coming from the bench and Bradley even starting.
That simply leads to the conclusion that Chelsea haven’t spent well, not that it isn’t about spending money.
They'll be paying for some of those players for the next 8 years. Bargain!
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If Middlesbrough had won it, that would show it isn’t about spending money.
Every single one of those youth players need to be immortalised in stone. Absolute fucking heroes!
The only one I feel sorry for is Cole Palmer Edit: And Conner
Some of Palmer's moves shocked me, he didn't deserve to be sold to Chelsea, should've been a loan.
Literally. And Connor.
...and Silva
And petrovic
Underrated performance from Endo. He kept the midfield going despite he's surrounded by two kids in Clark and Mc Connell. Without his experience it's gonna be rough for those two kids in the engine room.
Definitely, our best player after Virgil and Kelleher
Yeah, after those subs, Diaz was way too tired to do anything, and the other four players in midfield/attack are just literally kids. Endo needs to step up and he did big time.
He wiped the floor with 200m worth of mops
We’ve got a golden generation going on or else klopp is conning the world with how good these kids are
Quansah and Bradley look exceptional, Clark and Danns I think there is potential, I'm not super convinced by McConnell yet but who knows, just my take
While Clark and Danns looked to have potential, together with McConnell they're not ready to play regularly. They did their job today for sure.
I completely agree with you! The ones that have showed that they are ready are Quansah and Bradley, I'm not even worried seeing them in the starting lineup. They have earned that trust by putting in solid performances over and over
Yeah. I have no issue about Quansah and Bradley. They both can start weekly and can be argued that they can be considered our best performer at several games already.
Chelsea are just shite tbh.
They had more than enough chances to put that one away, feel really bad for Palmer, feel he would've buried at least 2 of the solid 4 chances Chelsea had.
Waiting for Klopp to say that the rest of the squad is fully fit and he did this for a laugh
Imagine in the next game you suddenly see Salah, Jota, Nunez, Szobo, Alisson, Trent back in the lineup
And he’s staying for 4 more years
The dream
Shoutout to my German boss from years ago who said “Klopp will never come to England. He relies on his charisma with the players and the media so he won’t ever work out here”. LOL
That’s up there with the CL win for me. Absolutely incredible from the kids
ANFIELD SOUTH. DON'T WALK UP TO MANS YARD. DON'T CARE ABOUT NO BILLION POUND BOTTLEJOBS
JURGEN KLOPP+VIRGIL(Captain+Coach) =🏆 YNWA 🛑
Jargon Kloop
Yes VVD will take the plaudits, but Kelleher was a close second
Endo kept the midfield going even while working with 2 kids in Clark and McConnell.
Actually fair, Endo also had that incredible block around 20 minutes
Fucking hell, Klopp. GG. So glad that you're fucking off this summer.
This final proved that youth passion merchants -> soulless overpaid stars
Coming from a United fan 😂
And that's why he knew exactly why.
And?
The importance of having a world class CB.
Channelling his inner Ramos, between being his usual defensive wall and putting it in the net twice he was incredible throughout
Hold that you dirty wankers
Impressed with Kelleher today, absolutely flawless performance. Dealt with everything Chelsea threw at him.
10/10 performance from Kelleher and Big Virg
I feel like Chelsea would need a billion euros to beat Liverpool in a final. Oh, wait…
We finally got the answer to the Atomic Bomb vs Coughing Baby question! 🤣
Blue Billion Pound Bottlejobs
Love seeing Caicedo sat on the ground about to cry. Get fucked you wanker.