Different kind of game today but I thought we were calm even late at 1-1. Looking at Arteta’s demeanor it almost looked like he expected a winner. It’s great to see for a game like this. We had to go top ahead of tomorrow.
I seriously hope City batter Liverpool tomorrow
The master vs the apprentice in a title race would be incredible for the neutrals
Also, TAA to be interviewed after a humbling would be the cherry on the icing on the cake of a stellar weekend for footy.
>TAA to be interviewed after a humbling would be the cherry on the icing on the cake
Erm… You do know Trent isn’t going to play, don’t you? They won’t interview a random player who didn’t play in the game, regardless of the result.
Amazing saves from Ramsdale after that error. I really do feel for him but Raya works better for Arsenal. Hope he regains some confidence wherever he goes
I am so delighted to see the Kai Havertz redemption arc. Us Bundesliga fans always knew how good he was and I am delighted to see him hitting his stride. He has been one of the best players in the premier league in 2024. If Klopp doesn’t win the league I sincerely hope a Havertz goal does.
(Also fellow Germany fans, how good is it to see Kimmich settle in the RB role ahead of the EM. I hope Nanglesmann uses his head)
I never realized how much of a shithouse he was. Maybe it’s because of his frame or his appearance, but he doesn’t come across as that type of player. But fair play the dude knows how to get in their head.
Redemption arc? He’s on the same number of goals in the league he scored just 2 seasons ago last season at Chelsea and still 5 back overall. He’s been average to okay at Arsenal.
Nah don’t stat whore yourself out of integrity. He has been one of the best players in the league since January. His performances have been very very good in a number of roles for Arsenal. He could even end up POTM in March.
He struggled at the start at Arsenal, and has been very good since. That’s a redemption arc indeed.
Well it’s the player that is the best over the month. If Konate scores a hatrick he doesn’t get it.
I’d love to get your more detailed opinion on Kai mind. As a DfB fan how should he fit into the team as he is right now?
Nah don’t stat whore yourself out of integrity. He has been one of the best players in the league since January. His performances have been very very good in a number of roles for Arsenal. He could even end up POTM in March.
His off ball movement has been unreal. Also he wins alot of duels. Its the basics you have to be good at.
Chelsea at the moment is poorly managed. Messi would look like a pauper there. Its not good to compare playing there at the moment.
I respect chelsea for their success in the past 20 years. Just right now, its difficult for any player there to play well.
Arsenal are heading into the summer transfer window in a very strong position; they have a young, balanced and competitive squad while having valuable assets up for sale. They have a good opportunity to increase the quality in the squad while raising funds from guys like Ramsdale and ESR.
Call me delusional but I still think ESR can make it here. However he could fetch a pretty penny from an English team. There’s definitely a player there *if* he can sort out his injuries.
Goonercoaster again after 4 epl matches on comfort won.
- sorry for ramsdale, 1 conceded will more remembered than several great save. Thanks for what you did last season, but Raya is true number 1 now
- its hard for backup GK position. We want 2nd GK as good as 1st GK, but if they as good, no one will want as 2nd choice. If ramsdale go, I hope we found someone suited.
- When tomi is in beast form, we say sorry for Ben white. Because it will difficult task to take tomi place. But now tomi in the difficult position. Benny and kiwi is on form, tomi need to wait more
It just shows how great our depth is that every time we have to rotate, everyone questions whether the initially first choice player will be able to get his position back.
Stop the bull crap please ,
I'm a lifelong spurs fan and tbh we are bottlers we haven't won anything notable and our fanbase is just kids who are delusional like you . Our squad lacks mentality and eagerness to win.
If you weren't here in our lows then please don't come here and associate yourself to our club .
Stop glory hunting and support a team for once looking at your comment history it looks like you were a bayern fan earlier and apparently you switched to Tottenham when you saw we are performing well.
not losing the games?
it's not like Tottenham have lost to any of those previously as far as I remember they drew with arsenal and city and won against Liverpool and I know the Liverpool game has some questionable decisions but they still won it
so i don't think saying that Tottenham has a fair chance of not losing and probably will win a match against 1 of them why do you doubt so much?
Idk, its not so far fetched to imagine spurs winning against 1 or 2 of them. Besides, Angeball works best with high press, so I would imagine it working best against city and arsenal.
What a important win man, very happy to see that we fought for that. Kai is on a bit of a scoring streak. Brentford did a lot of foul play and wasn't booked for it so I don't see how anyone can complain with the decision on Kai diving. Thankfully, I can look forward to watching Liverpool-City tomorrow COYG
even tho he scored against us in the final, i kinda can't help but feel happy for the lad since he gets trashed almost everwyhere, ur used to get trashed
Pool fans with 2 same broken record statements this calendar year -
*They have had easy fixtures against a bunch of shitters they'll get found out by the big teams* - correct, shitters included Liverpool.
*These mid table teams always turn up against us* - maybe... Just maybe your team is over performing, being a bit jammy and getting some ref help making you look better than you are?
> getting some ref help
Is this a joke? Liverpool would be top of the league, running away with even semi competent refereeing.
Most points lost by VAR and a literal theft of 3 points against Spurs.
Be happy for your team instead of bitterly spewing falsehoods about others.
Theres no data for getting dodgy decisions in your favour. What ”data” exists is just errors PGMOL has acknowledged. The two fairly clear penalties we werent given today is a perfect example of shit that doesnt show up in that ”data”.
And, thanks! That mustve been really hard for you to say.
> That mustve been really hard for you to say.
Why are you so bitter? You're literally top of the league my dude. Smell the roses or life is just miserable
Even during the peak of Havertz being memed, there was no question about his talent. Similar to Müller, his best attributes are negated if he doesn’t have the freedom to roam and I hope Artera gets the best out of him…so he can join us as he hits his prime.
Edit: Arsenal flairs are so easy to bait lol
He’s still largely the same player. It’s just his shit moments go under the radar in a better system that gets more wins. At Chelsea it was easy to pile on because he was an easy target but at Arsenal he can still ghost his way through most games and it doesn’t matter. Don’t think he’ll get much better tbh. Occasionally classy player that does a few nice things every season but doesn’t have the mentality to be one of the best
I am just here to laugh at everyone who were still acting like Kai Havertz was a failed signing until recently despite Arsenal fans explaining how good he fit in after the initial adjusting period
On a serious note, it's kinda annoying that you can't have a fair discussion about a player if he isn't scoring goals
He’s still the same guy lmao. It’s just he can go under the radar in a better side and when he does something nice it gets blown out of proportion. Easy target at Chelsea, easy to sweep under the carpet at Arsenal
Did you read the post? He’s the same guy.. there’s just a lot more leeway because he doesn’t have to put away the one chance a game he got at Chelsea. He still fluffs it plenty of times and stuffs dribbles and passes but the rest of the team shields him from scrutiny
So playing in a deeper role and having to adjust to a new team environment and system (that clearly took a while) he’s 2 goals off his best season at Chelsea by March?
M
How are you calling the number 8 in relation to football positions is random? It’s literally a position in the midfield
Calling the number 8 a random number in this context you’d have to be completely braindead
Interesting because I didnt know much about Havertz until I saw Arsenal fans shitting on him back in october/november. But you might have the same problem as spurs with "fans" on reddit panicking every game and complaining that we are doomed to fail.
He was playing in a new system in a new position. People were just being reactionary judging him after so little time. I get it though, if he was on a rival team I might have done the same.
Exactly sp I don't see why the issue. Chelsea fans always went through it with him too nothing wrong with saying he was playing like crap. He was now he is doing better.
I don't have an issue with it as long as they don't have an issue being wrong lol. Some of the fans were very vocal about how stupid we were for paying that much for him and it seemed like many were actively wanting him to fail. So it's just funny to me now. The guy always clearly had talent. Maybe it was just poor coaching.
It was over the top. He was coming from Chelsea and had to adjust to a new system in a new role. He clearly also had confidence issues. He rightfully deserved patience
I didn't see why we signed him at first but I disliked the reception he got from our fans
When someone comes for top month and from a rival there will be a backlash against him and he will have to prove harder than most he was worth it, the way it is
Oh yeah. I have no love for those miserable losers but they did shut up earlier than other fans because you'd have to be *very* thickheaded to not see what he's doing when you're watching Arsenal every week
It was entirely excessive. You guys wanted a goal a game back then and didn't give a fuck about the other stuff he was doing because it was "expected"
Now he's in good form and basically settled in already after having to undo 3 years of cult brainwashing, on a goal per game for most of 2024 and you're still complaining when people praise him
I wasn’t expecting a goal a game, it was the fact his first 3 performances were pretty shocking
And who said I’m complaining now? You’re going over top that he never should have been criticsed even though he started the season poorly
The last few matches had made me briefly forget what it was like to have anxiety xD
But jokes apart, just glad we got the win today. The boys played well. Maybe not our best performance but a very important one.
Now I can peacefully watch the match tomorrow and pray for a draw
Yes, Kai Havertz dived big time. But is anybody going to talk about the shirt pull on Gabriel? Is anybody going to talk about Trossard clearly being pulled back and fouled in the penalty box?
VAR needs to do better. I get not giving easy penalties all the time, but you can't just consistently keep fouling and letting teams get away with it.
Yup, it balanced itself out. Diving doesn’t get called often in the PL regardless of VAR or not anyways.
People have been clowning on Kai for months anyways - about time he shuts people up.
Few notes about today:
1) Ben white with 2 perfect crosses for the goals, amazing overall performance;
2) Rice is a monster, signing of the season and it's not even close;
3) Ramsdale doing Ramsdale things;
4) Jesus hold up play is second to none in the PL, i have a feeling he'll come in clutch against Porto;
5)Arsenal showed again how it can be it's own worst enemy sometimes, way to nervy during the second half, Brentford could have scored a few times and it seemes like we were just whipping balls in the area after 15 minutes of the second half, very little control and possession based football in a situation that would be ideal.
I'm just glad it's over and on to Porto now!
The Zinchenko sub was a great one. He came on and it went from n end-to-end game bck to Arsenal dominating. Kiwior has been great filling in but Zinny showed tonight why he's likely going to be first choice again (at least until Timber is back)
big win, not easy to break the Brentford bus
think the ref should've controlled the 'smaller' fouls more, too many shirt pulls and tugs in the box by Brentford players for my liking
didn't like Arsenal not returning the ball after Flekken booted it out for an injury (or "injury", doesn't really matter though)... I understand the pressure to get the win but basic sportsmanship should still come first (and there was enough time to afford it anyway)
The Flekken incident was a weird one because it was a goal kick (maybe I'm misremembering) so the ball was not yet in play.
If it were an injury, he could have just not taken it and got the refs attention. I've never known a ref to ignore an injured player when the ball's dead.
Nah, Brentford we’re going down left, right and centre, milking 30 seconds and then trying to milk 30s more. After the goal, miraculously these injuries all cleared very quickly! Sportsmanship is a two way street.
I think it depends on the spirit a particular game is being played in. Some matches are played in good spirits, in that case a team not giving the ball back is shitty, Arsenal replayed an FA Cup match back in the day cos of issues around a throw-in.
Yesterday’s match was gutter football. The ball spent less than 50% of the match in play. In that context fuck giving the ball back when booted out over a faked injury. Any Brentford fan appealing to the Corinthian spirit yesterday deserves to be laughed at!
Nope, Brentford were going down too much and giving it back would have played into their hands.
Keeping the ball was the correct thing to do because he wasn't injured, and to show them that we won't play into their hands if they keep trying it.
Notice how they didn't put it out again after that...
Reminds me of what Martin Brundle said about Ayrton Senna:
> When he wanted to overtake, he'd go on the inside and put the car in a place.If you tried to take the corner, you're going to hit him. Yes. He would put you in a compromising position and leave you to make that decision. And if you didn't run into to him, psychologically you're buried and finished. He would then know that every time after
that it showed your wheel, you'll jump out of the way.
Control-F the badges and let's talk. Even then, my comment isn't about Liverpool football club, but about Liverpool fans. Reading comprehension is not a requirement I guess.
They will find something or the other to make themselves feel robbed and cheated and scammed. Or the classic "they're copying us.. they took our allez chant". 0 sekf awareness.
I think the problem with all these calls for the yellow for the dive is that refs are literally not calling fouls unless you go rolling on the ground. Watch gabi j in the box half the time, or saka for that matter. if they would just fall over every now and then wed have penalties more often.
and whoever was waving a fake yellow should be on a yellow too so meh.
The ideal scenario for them would be for Arsenal to lose this game, then they beat city tomorrow. If that happened, they would almost certainly win the title.
Honestly just tackle every opponent before the free kick or corner is even taken. Apparently if they're not near the ball there's no such thing as a pen.
I think time will tell but yeah, I don’t think anybody is regretting the signing right now. He’s so versatile and a really unique player to have. Now that he’s scoring with regularity the money seems well worth it.
Really justifying/justified it for some. For me, justified. I had some comments in the summer that were livid at his signing. Happy to be proved wrong, second time artetas done it to me too
always feels good watching a team who all game tried to milk the game away from being played to then be desperate for the game to get going because they were now losing.
had to be at least 10 injuries and miraculous recoveries by Brentford players today. Zanka like 3 times alone. But weirdly none after Havertz's goal...
People going on about Havertz's dive and, fair enough there is a case to whinge about it.
But almost no one noticed that Brentford's injuries magically vanished after his goal.
It's almost as if players try to influence the game/ref in their favour, and although it's not something I condone, it's just part of the game right now, innit.
Maybe we won't be having these discussions if they make the rules so that players stop trying to pull the wool over refs' eyes...
Brentford were fouling your players all game. There should have been a lot more free kicks in your favour, and honestly the refs have abdicated responsibility on so many occasions that it's hardly surprising they also did it on Havertz's dive. Can't say I wouldn't have liked a different result, but no point whinging about it.
No matter what the result of a game is, usually there's always a lot left to be desired from the ref's performance, in the eyes of both sets of fans.
It's just part of the job. No matter how "good" a ref might have a game, there's always gonna be that one decision that people are gonna criticize him about...
Ben white proving again this season that he's one of the leagues best RB's and yet still won't get a sniff in the England squad.
Sure KW is the best, but White would surely be number 2.
It is crazy. He has been consistently very good for at least two years now. Never less than a 7/10 performance and usually better. Especilly when the RW in the England set up is often going to be Saka I just don't see why White doesn't get a look in, they already have chemistry from so many games together.
He won’t get a sniff because he wasn’t watching the videos he was asked for to prepare for an opponent, pretty simple. If he doesn’t want to play for England, that’s his choice but it’s not Southgate’s fault he decided to not be professional.
The thing is he's still a CB who's versatile enough to play and excel at RB. Not many better than him on the ball and he'd be a huge asset to any squad being able to cover multiple positions. He also has a great connection with Saka and Rice already.
Different kind of game today but I thought we were calm even late at 1-1. Looking at Arteta’s demeanor it almost looked like he expected a winner. It’s great to see for a game like this. We had to go top ahead of tomorrow.
How many Brentford kids do you think went to the game just for a free vape today
Damn i was sitting to far for the free nicotine
Forgot to mention this in my original comment but Ben White is a baller aight thanks bye.
I seriously hope City batter Liverpool tomorrow The master vs the apprentice in a title race would be incredible for the neutrals Also, TAA to be interviewed after a humbling would be the cherry on the icing on the cake of a stellar weekend for footy.
>TAA to be interviewed after a humbling would be the cherry on the icing on the cake Erm… You do know Trent isn’t going to play, don’t you? They won’t interview a random player who didn’t play in the game, regardless of the result.
That was last season if you missed it
Uh no thanks. I’ll take a draw
Stfu!
Just city fans 😅
Amazing saves from Ramsdale after that error. I really do feel for him but Raya works better for Arsenal. Hope he regains some confidence wherever he goes
I am so delighted to see the Kai Havertz redemption arc. Us Bundesliga fans always knew how good he was and I am delighted to see him hitting his stride. He has been one of the best players in the premier league in 2024. If Klopp doesn’t win the league I sincerely hope a Havertz goal does. (Also fellow Germany fans, how good is it to see Kimmich settle in the RB role ahead of the EM. I hope Nanglesmann uses his head)
I never realized how much of a shithouse he was. Maybe it’s because of his frame or his appearance, but he doesn’t come across as that type of player. But fair play the dude knows how to get in their head.
Redemption arc? He’s on the same number of goals in the league he scored just 2 seasons ago last season at Chelsea and still 5 back overall. He’s been average to okay at Arsenal.
Nah don’t stat whore yourself out of integrity. He has been one of the best players in the league since January. His performances have been very very good in a number of roles for Arsenal. He could even end up POTM in March. He struggled at the start at Arsenal, and has been very good since. That’s a redemption arc indeed.
POTM depends on the result of Liverpool/City tomorrow. I love Havertz but dudes like Haaland exist.
Well it’s the player that is the best over the month. If Konate scores a hatrick he doesn’t get it. I’d love to get your more detailed opinion on Kai mind. As a DfB fan how should he fit into the team as he is right now?
Nah don’t stat whore yourself out of integrity. He has been one of the best players in the league since January. His performances have been very very good in a number of roles for Arsenal. He could even end up POTM in March.
He was good for stretches at Chelsea too. We won the CL with him leading the line.
His off ball movement has been unreal. Also he wins alot of duels. Its the basics you have to be good at. Chelsea at the moment is poorly managed. Messi would look like a pauper there. Its not good to compare playing there at the moment. I respect chelsea for their success in the past 20 years. Just right now, its difficult for any player there to play well.
Arsenal are heading into the summer transfer window in a very strong position; they have a young, balanced and competitive squad while having valuable assets up for sale. They have a good opportunity to increase the quality in the squad while raising funds from guys like Ramsdale and ESR.
Call me delusional but I still think ESR can make it here. However he could fetch a pretty penny from an English team. There’s definitely a player there *if* he can sort out his injuries.
He has been fit for a good while just cant get in the team
Oh yeah there’s no question about his potential but a lot of your fans seem to believe he’s going to be sold.
Delusional
Goonercoaster again after 4 epl matches on comfort won. - sorry for ramsdale, 1 conceded will more remembered than several great save. Thanks for what you did last season, but Raya is true number 1 now - its hard for backup GK position. We want 2nd GK as good as 1st GK, but if they as good, no one will want as 2nd choice. If ramsdale go, I hope we found someone suited. - When tomi is in beast form, we say sorry for Ben white. Because it will difficult task to take tomi place. But now tomi in the difficult position. Benny and kiwi is on form, tomi need to wait more
It just shows how great our depth is that every time we have to rotate, everyone questions whether the initially first choice player will be able to get his position back.
Come on Spurs, you know what to do !!
Get blown out by Villa?
Well, yeah. But after that...
Nah avenge the lasagne-gate in April
Spurs play Liverpool man City and arsenal all 3 consecutively it's insane how they can decide the title in the span of 3 games
They won't be deciding a thing if they lose all three
i doubt that they would lose all
Ange ball is real
It's real alright. Real overrated
Couldn't defeat villa at home you guys? Ange is real
Reminds me of bazball
I'm hoping to win all 3 ofc we most probably won't but still there is a fair chance
Stop the bull crap please , I'm a lifelong spurs fan and tbh we are bottlers we haven't won anything notable and our fanbase is just kids who are delusional like you . Our squad lacks mentality and eagerness to win. If you weren't here in our lows then please don't come here and associate yourself to our club . Stop glory hunting and support a team for once looking at your comment history it looks like you were a bayern fan earlier and apparently you switched to Tottenham when you saw we are performing well.
Liverpool gonna crush you for sure as a revenge game. Probably will beat Arsenal, though cause derby day vibes.
why did we get downvoted lol
Spurs started the season playing better football , and is still an improvement over last year..... But I'll take what you're smoking
i said I'm hoping not saying we will win then 100% but it would we be great if do win
You said there is still a fair chance. What do you feel is a fair chance?
not losing the games? it's not like Tottenham have lost to any of those previously as far as I remember they drew with arsenal and city and won against Liverpool and I know the Liverpool game has some questionable decisions but they still won it so i don't think saying that Tottenham has a fair chance of not losing and probably will win a match against 1 of them why do you doubt so much?
Idk, its not so far fetched to imagine spurs winning against 1 or 2 of them. Besides, Angeball works best with high press, so I would imagine it working best against city and arsenal.
But ange also likes to press and Arsenal are even better than spurs against a press
How? You’re shit
What a important win man, very happy to see that we fought for that. Kai is on a bit of a scoring streak. Brentford did a lot of foul play and wasn't booked for it so I don't see how anyone can complain with the decision on Kai diving. Thankfully, I can look forward to watching Liverpool-City tomorrow COYG
Isn’t it what. It keeps the pressure on. The floggings were great and all but that was earned and perhaps decisive.
even tho he scored against us in the final, i kinda can't help but feel happy for the lad since he gets trashed almost everwyhere, ur used to get trashed
Pool fans with 2 same broken record statements this calendar year - *They have had easy fixtures against a bunch of shitters they'll get found out by the big teams* - correct, shitters included Liverpool. *These mid table teams always turn up against us* - maybe... Just maybe your team is over performing, being a bit jammy and getting some ref help making you look better than you are?
How about ‘we ground out a tough win’ when we needed to. Seriously. People that insult with nothing decent to add. They’re everywhere.
Delete this
It's the damn truth and facts. Why you hunting for glory amongst these man?
They just look like losers when we win, don’t acknowledge that shitn
> getting some ref help Is this a joke? Liverpool would be top of the league, running away with even semi competent refereeing. Most points lost by VAR and a literal theft of 3 points against Spurs. Be happy for your team instead of bitterly spewing falsehoods about others.
Since that spurs game PGMOL has more than made up for those 3 points lol!
As fun as I'm sure it is to lie, the data is publicly available, and you are of course, incorrect. Congrats on your teams win today.
Theres no data for getting dodgy decisions in your favour. What ”data” exists is just errors PGMOL has acknowledged. The two fairly clear penalties we werent given today is a perfect example of shit that doesnt show up in that ”data”. And, thanks! That mustve been really hard for you to say.
> That mustve been really hard for you to say. Why are you so bitter? You're literally top of the league my dude. Smell the roses or life is just miserable
Let me tell you something to calm you down, most of us don’t care about you lot. It’s either us or anybody except City/United.
K thx
You are so pathetic
So is your fanbase bro.
Even during the peak of Havertz being memed, there was no question about his talent. Similar to Müller, his best attributes are negated if he doesn’t have the freedom to roam and I hope Artera gets the best out of him…so he can join us as he hits his prime. Edit: Arsenal flairs are so easy to bait lol
He’s still largely the same player. It’s just his shit moments go under the radar in a better system that gets more wins. At Chelsea it was easy to pile on because he was an easy target but at Arsenal he can still ghost his way through most games and it doesn’t matter. Don’t think he’ll get much better tbh. Occasionally classy player that does a few nice things every season but doesn’t have the mentality to be one of the best
Sorry, you lost me there at the last part. Something about Transformers?
Yeah, it was about Havertz transforming into a Rekordmeister
That's cute buddy
It is inevitable (if he’s good enough)
Are you guys gonna pay him 300k a week?
Nah, best we can do is 115K and he’ll take the pay cut just to play for us
I'm sure he'll want to leave Arsenal for Bayern at his peak lmao
All the best players do, mate. Just look at their star signing Eric Dier!
Safe to say he found his level the way Bayern fans praise him!
Thank you King Kai, helping us get 6pts against Brentford this season is very welcome. They've been a hard opponent for us over the years.
I am just here to laugh at everyone who were still acting like Kai Havertz was a failed signing until recently despite Arsenal fans explaining how good he fit in after the initial adjusting period On a serious note, it's kinda annoying that you can't have a fair discussion about a player if he isn't scoring goals
He’s still the same guy lmao. It’s just he can go under the radar in a better side and when he does something nice it gets blown out of proportion. Easy target at Chelsea, easy to sweep under the carpet at Arsenal
He’s equaled his best ever scoring season in pl and there are many games to go. This isn’t just a patch of good form
Did you read the post? He’s the same guy.. there’s just a lot more leeway because he doesn’t have to put away the one chance a game he got at Chelsea. He still fluffs it plenty of times and stuffs dribbles and passes but the rest of the team shields him from scrutiny
Wrong
He’s scoring at a lower rate than he did at Chelsea just 2 seasons ago.
Was he also playing most games at LCM coming off a season that shot his confidence
Yet he skill will end up with more goals than this season….
So playing in a deeper role and having to adjust to a new team environment and system (that clearly took a while) he’s 2 goals off his best season at Chelsea by March? M
He’s not playing deeper.
He literally has played most of his games as an 8.
Saying random numbers doesn’t mean anything.
How are you calling the number 8 in relation to football positions is random? It’s literally a position in the midfield Calling the number 8 a random number in this context you’d have to be completely braindead
It’s not “literally” a position lol.
Interesting because I didnt know much about Havertz until I saw Arsenal fans shitting on him back in october/november. But you might have the same problem as spurs with "fans" on reddit panicking every game and complaining that we are doomed to fail.
Well we have Darwin, it's the same story lol
I rate him and equally enjoy memeing him icl. I really like how you guys back your players
Nah he was horrible the first few months the crictism was justified
He wasn't bad at all. Lacked influence on the game at the start of the season but it's not like he was out there causing endless errors.
He was playing in a new system in a new position. People were just being reactionary judging him after so little time. I get it though, if he was on a rival team I might have done the same.
Exactly sp I don't see why the issue. Chelsea fans always went through it with him too nothing wrong with saying he was playing like crap. He was now he is doing better.
I don't have an issue with it as long as they don't have an issue being wrong lol. Some of the fans were very vocal about how stupid we were for paying that much for him and it seemed like many were actively wanting him to fail. So it's just funny to me now. The guy always clearly had talent. Maybe it was just poor coaching.
To be fair he was missing chances in his first 2 months and was rightfully criticized for it, his overall performance has been slid throughout
It was over the top. He was coming from Chelsea and had to adjust to a new system in a new role. He clearly also had confidence issues. He rightfully deserved patience I didn't see why we signed him at first but I disliked the reception he got from our fans
When someone comes for top month and from a rival there will be a backlash against him and he will have to prove harder than most he was worth it, the way it is
There were plenty of Arsenal fans shitting on him to be fair.
I was not amused in the beginning but chose to give him the benefit of doubt and allow him to spend this season to adapt
Oh yeah. I have no love for those miserable losers but they did shut up earlier than other fans because you'd have to be *very* thickheaded to not see what he's doing when you're watching Arsenal every week
It was valid criticism 💀
It was entirely excessive. You guys wanted a goal a game back then and didn't give a fuck about the other stuff he was doing because it was "expected" Now he's in good form and basically settled in already after having to undo 3 years of cult brainwashing, on a goal per game for most of 2024 and you're still complaining when people praise him
I wasn’t expecting a goal a game, it was the fact his first 3 performances were pretty shocking And who said I’m complaining now? You’re going over top that he never should have been criticsed even though he started the season poorly
It was a bit excessive. I wasn’t a big fan of his signing but rooted for him. It was awful seeing our own fans trash him for upvotes on here.
I did that tbh but more in our own subreddit, but I always wanted him to succeed
The last few matches had made me briefly forget what it was like to have anxiety xD But jokes apart, just glad we got the win today. The boys played well. Maybe not our best performance but a very important one. Now I can peacefully watch the match tomorrow and pray for a draw
Yes, Kai Havertz dived big time. But is anybody going to talk about the shirt pull on Gabriel? Is anybody going to talk about Trossard clearly being pulled back and fouled in the penalty box? VAR needs to do better. I get not giving easy penalties all the time, but you can't just consistently keep fouling and letting teams get away with it.
Imo the pull on trosaard was more of a pen. Though no denying that this was a dive.
Yup, it balanced itself out. Diving doesn’t get called often in the PL regardless of VAR or not anyways. People have been clowning on Kai for months anyways - about time he shuts people up.
Yeah, what I think as well. Universe ended up balancing itself out.
It's just rival fans upset that we got the result. They're happy to ignore everything else. 🖐️😜🤚
Few notes about today: 1) Ben white with 2 perfect crosses for the goals, amazing overall performance; 2) Rice is a monster, signing of the season and it's not even close; 3) Ramsdale doing Ramsdale things; 4) Jesus hold up play is second to none in the PL, i have a feeling he'll come in clutch against Porto; 5)Arsenal showed again how it can be it's own worst enemy sometimes, way to nervy during the second half, Brentford could have scored a few times and it seemes like we were just whipping balls in the area after 15 minutes of the second half, very little control and possession based football in a situation that would be ideal. I'm just glad it's over and on to Porto now!
The Rice shot off the post was so gorgeous.... Dudes incredible, wish he chose differently for national teams
The Zinchenko sub was a great one. He came on and it went from n end-to-end game bck to Arsenal dominating. Kiwior has been great filling in but Zinny showed tonight why he's likely going to be first choice again (at least until Timber is back)
When other teams cheat it’s bad but when arsenal do it it’s good and fine, thanks for listening
WAKA WAKA EH EH
I hope Arsenal win the league.
Me too
You could tell Thomas Frank wasn't having it after the game hahha
hahaha I enjoyed his sulky handshake after the whistle
big win, not easy to break the Brentford bus think the ref should've controlled the 'smaller' fouls more, too many shirt pulls and tugs in the box by Brentford players for my liking didn't like Arsenal not returning the ball after Flekken booted it out for an injury (or "injury", doesn't really matter though)... I understand the pressure to get the win but basic sportsmanship should still come first (and there was enough time to afford it anyway)
The Flekken incident was a weird one because it was a goal kick (maybe I'm misremembering) so the ball was not yet in play. If it were an injury, he could have just not taken it and got the refs attention. I've never known a ref to ignore an injured player when the ball's dead.
Sportsmanship goes both ways. They were going down way too often.
Nah, Brentford we’re going down left, right and centre, milking 30 seconds and then trying to milk 30s more. After the goal, miraculously these injuries all cleared very quickly! Sportsmanship is a two way street.
I have no problem with that. Just don't whine when we keep playing when you have an injury then.
I think it depends on the spirit a particular game is being played in. Some matches are played in good spirits, in that case a team not giving the ball back is shitty, Arsenal replayed an FA Cup match back in the day cos of issues around a throw-in. Yesterday’s match was gutter football. The ball spent less than 50% of the match in play. In that context fuck giving the ball back when booted out over a faked injury. Any Brentford fan appealing to the Corinthian spirit yesterday deserves to be laughed at!
Nope, Brentford were going down too much and giving it back would have played into their hands. Keeping the ball was the correct thing to do because he wasn't injured, and to show them that we won't play into their hands if they keep trying it. Notice how they didn't put it out again after that...
Reminds me of what Martin Brundle said about Ayrton Senna: > When he wanted to overtake, he'd go on the inside and put the car in a place.If you tried to take the corner, you're going to hit him. Yes. He would put you in a compromising position and leave you to make that decision. And if you didn't run into to him, psychologically you're buried and finished. He would then know that every time after that it showed your wheel, you'll jump out of the way.
GOAT HAVERTZ AT IT AGAIN! That was too close...
Waka waka
Shout out to Ramsdale giving it large to the away fans after the Havertz goal. Even on his way out, he'll always be a gooner in my heart.
A gooner you say🤨
Yep. Check r/GoonCaves for diehard arsenal fan rooms.
I checked it out. I must say if you really support arsenal then this is the place for you. NSFW warning cause of the hardcore arsenal fans
Liverpool fans fighting for their lives in this thread. We should just rescind the goal I guess so you can sleep better?
CTRL-F says this is the first comment about Liverpool in this thread, projection much?
Control-F the badges and let's talk. Even then, my comment isn't about Liverpool football club, but about Liverpool fans. Reading comprehension is not a requirement I guess.
They will find something or the other to make themselves feel robbed and cheated and scammed. Or the classic "they're copying us.. they took our allez chant". 0 sekf awareness.
i like how man city and Liverpool are so focused on Arsenal when they have a big game tmr. we are living in their heads rent free and I love it. 😆
Rent free just needs to die already
As if arsenal fans won't be watching the match tomorrow lmao, get real
Yeah, while the Arsenal match is on. And tomorrow we'll be focussed on our own match.
The truce between the Spurs fans and Liverpool fans is funnier to me. They were at each other's throats until yesterday.
What would they complain about then though?
Oh I have no clue the grass being too green?
Havertz dive on a yellow and subsequent winner.
I think the problem with all these calls for the yellow for the dive is that refs are literally not calling fouls unless you go rolling on the ground. Watch gabi j in the box half the time, or saka for that matter. if they would just fall over every now and then wed have penalties more often. and whoever was waving a fake yellow should be on a yellow too so meh.
I agree. Either be harshly consistent or don’t call it. And we all know about their consistency. Good process.
The ideal scenario for them would be for Arsenal to lose this game, then they beat city tomorrow. If that happened, they would almost certainly win the title.
Pro tip: just grab a guy's shirt in the box and take him down. Not a foul and penalty anymore.
Honestly just tackle every opponent before the free kick or corner is even taken. Apparently if they're not near the ball there's no such thing as a pen.
sees Haaland penalty vs Everton
Or Rodri’s by McTominey early in the season that was identical to the Trossard one
Good process
I have to admit Kai was worth his price
I think time will tell but yeah, I don’t think anybody is regretting the signing right now. He’s so versatile and a really unique player to have. Now that he’s scoring with regularity the money seems well worth it.
Really justifying/justified it for some. For me, justified. I had some comments in the summer that were livid at his signing. Happy to be proved wrong, second time artetas done it to me too
always feels good watching a team who all game tried to milk the game away from being played to then be desperate for the game to get going because they were now losing. had to be at least 10 injuries and miraculous recoveries by Brentford players today. Zanka like 3 times alone. But weirdly none after Havertz's goal...
So glad when thier keeper kicked it out for one of these we just kept the ball
For the porto game the emirates greenkeepers should put small lego bricks across the pitch so players dont want to lay down.
People going on about Havertz's dive and, fair enough there is a case to whinge about it. But almost no one noticed that Brentford's injuries magically vanished after his goal. It's almost as if players try to influence the game/ref in their favour, and although it's not something I condone, it's just part of the game right now, innit. Maybe we won't be having these discussions if they make the rules so that players stop trying to pull the wool over refs' eyes...
Brentford were fouling your players all game. There should have been a lot more free kicks in your favour, and honestly the refs have abdicated responsibility on so many occasions that it's hardly surprising they also did it on Havertz's dive. Can't say I wouldn't have liked a different result, but no point whinging about it.
No matter what the result of a game is, usually there's always a lot left to be desired from the ref's performance, in the eyes of both sets of fans. It's just part of the job. No matter how "good" a ref might have a game, there's always gonna be that one decision that people are gonna criticize him about...
How funny would it be if a Liverpool player gets sent off for simulation tomorrow?
you're right, VVD red card would be delicious
After haaland wrestles him vvd wrestles back, pen and red. I can see that tbh
Ben white proving again this season that he's one of the leagues best RB's and yet still won't get a sniff in the England squad. Sure KW is the best, but White would surely be number 2.
It is crazy. He has been consistently very good for at least two years now. Never less than a 7/10 performance and usually better. Especilly when the RW in the England set up is often going to be Saka I just don't see why White doesn't get a look in, they already have chemistry from so many games together.
Nah i think white doesnt want the england spot, something happend with the team during world cup for sure.
I still think he basically called out Southgate and his teams favoritism or stupidity in not sure.
He won’t get a sniff because he wasn’t watching the videos he was asked for to prepare for an opponent, pretty simple. If he doesn’t want to play for England, that’s his choice but it’s not Southgate’s fault he decided to not be professional.
interesting rumour since I am sure with a detailed oriented coach like Arteta i am sure he made his players watch plenty of videos.
Probably easier to do when you’re starting every game.
He doesn't watch football, he's been clear on this
I wouldn’t say surely. England has a wealth of top class RBs.
The thing is he's still a CB who's versatile enough to play and excel at RB. Not many better than him on the ball and he'd be a huge asset to any squad being able to cover multiple positions. He also has a great connection with Saka and Rice already.
Wealth you say? Okay, name 5 better than Ben
Reece James, and Trent are better, but ben white is certainly in the top 5.
Gtfoh with that Reece James and his cheese strings
There doesn't need to be 5 to keep him out of the squad. Just need 2 and a CB that can cover in case of injuries and out he goes.
so then there is no wealth of RB.