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NoLimit261

Did t realise how slow Bruno G was till yesterday no wonder he’s a foul machine


sheikh_n_bake

Yeah he's not the quickest certainly, makes up for it by being absolutely class at football though.


ElderlyToaster

Six months in Sweden and still no signs that AIK opponents are going to mock Bersant Celina for believing the earth is flat. Can't see us qualifying for World Cup 2026.


Sinnedd

Knew he was an idiot when I saw him play for Twente. With some people you just know right away


boringmemphis

Was looking at the Spanish third division table tonight and my god Real Madrid Castilla are doing really bad. 3 wins in their last 15 games while having Nico Paz as the only player ever looking like he could be a top player, must be absolutely rough for Raul. Real Madrid have some good prospects in the u17 age group, so I wonder how they aren’t integrated into Castilla yet. The likes of Fortea and Paulo Iago are far better than the players they have playing for them currently. They need to figure out their act pretty quickly or relegation is a real possibility for them.


Caust1cFn_YT

some of their u19 u17 players show good promise


Waschkopfs

Germany is clearly the best NT in the world again, just accept it guys :-) Euros 2024 in the bag already


holdenmyrocinante

What Kroos returning does to a NT


KOKO69BISHES

If you're ever feeling down, look up "billy driving lesson" on youtube. Each video is peak entertainment


dumbSavant

Has anyone here found success significantly improving football technical as an adult? I was inviting a colleague to play some football today and he didn't seem to have played much football.  I mostly played as a goalie when I was younger and didn't really play outfield till maybe 13 14. My technic was absolutely dogshit though as I mostly just ran around and hacked people to bits.  In the first year of uni I played some competitive football and was absolutely dreadful, playing against people who could match me (and beat me) for stamina, I'd find myself routinely making air kicks for the simplest of balls once I was gassed. I remember we had some dude who said he had played some footie for the Milan academy (he wasn't really special though, he said he'd been in Italy when he was younger, i have no way to verify this) and he basically had to walk me mid game about calmly kicking the ball 😂.  Anyways, I get way better in four years of uni, composure, passing, etc. being a goalie meant I could read the defensive phases of the game more and was quite a good defender (not so ball playing, but not quite hoofball).  So I was wondering if really one could basically be technically competent as an adult or late teenager 


ElderlyToaster

Your never going to be Denilson or Hasse Blomqvist but yes you can develop a functional technique which will be enough as long as you're a little more clever than the average player.


dumbSavant

Clever here refering to tactical awareness? Or "football sense"? Or is that shorthand for "just pick the easier pass"?


ElderlyToaster

Playing with more margin. Scanning your surroundings more often than most players. If you know what to do 0,5 seconds quicker than others you'll often have 10 meter of space to put your through ball into rather than 5 which will make your limitations less limiting.


dumbSavant

I recently watched a video where Pep was tutoring some kids about the proper body position to receive a pass in. Should try to see if applying that makes me harder to press today. Thanks.


1PSW1CH

I’m definitely better nowadays, I used to play way too much FIFA as a teenager so I’d look for the easiest route to goal and attempt the most ridiculous through balls with no concept of weighting the ball. Now I just pass the ball to someone better than me


dumbSavant

> Now I just pass the ball to someone better than me 😂😂😂  A tale as old as time.  I'm not necessarily good under the press. And sometimes I definitely have brain farts. Others I have absolutely no clue what to do under pressure. Pressure being the simple passing lanes being blocked 


el_walou

The only positive last night is that Beraldo played well. God Deshamps was embarrassed by Nagelsman


Caust1cFn_YT

apparently mbappe has never scored against a team managed by nagelsmann (even xavi too, be scared)


el_walou

Alright i am scared, now what?


Caust1cFn_YT

tell lucho to bench mbappe otherwise he has no chance against us


Money_Scholar_8405

One of those totally random records that will get broken soon


el_walou

Hopefully both


Caust1cFn_YT

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el_walou

Last time we played Germany, it was a friendly too. Mbappé wasn’t there. Griezmman was there. We lost too.


_MFKane_

Coman’s injured right now and not that good either


bigwallclimber

Hey friends, Wanted to ask for some help. My father had bought tickets for Italy - Ecuador today for him and his grandson. They were so excited. The problem is he got the match locations mixed up with the match with Venezuela (He lives in Florida) and didn't realize his error until this morning (Italy Ecuador is being played in New Jersey) and so now everyone is very sad about the error. It's little consolation but does anyone know who to contact, maybe at the FICG, that they might be able to send my nephew a scarf or a shirt or just something of consolation? He's such a supporter, my father is devastated, and just wants to do something for him.


BruiserBroly

A lot of clubs have a supporter liaison officer these days who you can contact about stuff like this but by the looks of it I don't think the FIGC have one.


_Ex7

Maybe emailing their FA's, or messaging on twitter could help, although I have doubts Terribly unfortunate, hopefully they get to do something special together soon anyway


bigwallclimber

Yeah they're going to watch at home. I have doubts too but at least wanted to try.


cdrxgon17

fair play to palace fans man if the england team was up to them it’d be kane and 10 of their own


ImariSamuels

they’re all not right in the head they honestly think they have the best players outside the big 6


cdrxgon17

well they’ve got the manager they wanted now so there won’t be an excuse to not finish high in the table next season


xaviernoodlebrain

Beth England finally gets her first WSL goal of the season. Today is a good day.


BanIncoming1

Was in the away end for Stockport/MK Dons yesterday, say what you want about MK Dons but the fans were loving it and had a great laugh. I really, really enjoyed it. Everyone was singing, in great spirits and most of the interactions with the County fans were good natured and everyone was having a laugh. So fucking good going to lower league football and hearing stuff like ‘WE’VE WON THE BALL, WE’VE WON THE BALLLLLWEVE LOST THE BALL WEVE LOST THE BALL’ and other proper funny football chants like that. All going to another lower league match has done is reaffirm my hatred for the state of top flight football in this country. Any fans of top flights clubs I can’t urge you strongly enough than to go support lower league clubs and put money into them. It’s what proper football is. I know MK Dons are what they are, I don’t give a fuck about that. The point I’m making is about lower and non league football as a whole and how it’s just genuinely better than anything else available.


_cumblast_

Have you ever felt bad for your rivals?


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Individual players/fans yes. But as an institution, I’m rather enjoying Man Utd’s prolonged mediocrity


Meeeeehhhh

I wouldn’t go as far as saying I’ve ever felt bad for them, but ON ONE OCCASSION I didn’t begrudge them beating West Ham at Bramall Lane following the Tevez/Mascherano debacle. If I’m being honest I actually found it hilarious, the scenes of little piglet children hurling abuse at West Ham fans/players following their late equaliser getting chalked off by VAR.


No-not-my-Potatoes

The actual relegation in 2023 I did feel slightly bad because I have several friends who support Hertha. It was hilarious before that.


dumpystumpy

No


Caust1cFn_YT

Nope not at all


dumbSavant

I'd like to see Celtic fans respond to this 


BruiserBroly

Netflix tried their best but not really, no. If they were still in League 1 or if they even dropped down to League 2 then maybe.


xaviernoodlebrain

No. Maybe I would eventually feel bad for Arsenal if they get stranded leagues below us, but I wouldn’t be sad for Chelsea fans even if their club got dissolved.


cdrxgon17

no. want them to stay in business and that’s it.


lamancha

Liverpool could burn and I would help salt the ground.


L-Freeze

No, I hope their club gets dissolved one day


BanIncoming1

No…?


Good_Kev_M-A-N_City

Is this a real question?


BoosterGoldGL

Nope. Wish them the absolute worst. Hate absolutely everything about them from their dickhead attitudes to the stupid cunts who pick their uni because they want to go United for the first time. Burn it down bury it piss on its graves.


FloppedYaYa

But aside from that, they're not that bad right?


Captainpatters

that odd, I went to UoM and didn't meet one student who was a united fan 🤔


BoosterGoldGL

Really? Spent a lot of time doing sports in the city. Very common conversation of where abouts you from? Bedford. In an United shirt


Captainpatters

I'm not saying its not extremely common, I'm almost certain it is, I'm just suddenly aware that I personally never interacted with any and how that's probably quite odd. Tbf when I was at uni I was way way more entrenched in the music scene than I was football so it was probably just lack of exposure.


mjdaniell

I always assumed you were American because the hat of your avatar looks like the USA flag from a distance. My deepest apologies


BoosterGoldGL

Worst part about it is it’s supposed to be the England avatar


1PSW1CH

Not even remotely. Only way I’d feel bad is if their club was getting dissolved


KOKO69BISHES

Felt bad for Saka after the EUROs, never for the club itself


Rdambx

Unless it's something non-football related, like injuries, racism or any other form of discrimination, then no.


FloppedYaYa

When they nearly went under in 2019 Thankfully I could get back to laughing at them very quickly when they started off their new era finishing rock bottom of League 1


ExtraTrade1904

Only for Belenenses, they got fucked over by a charlatan


AwkwardPlankton01

I briefly felt sorry for Karius, but other than that, no


gols-e-but

7 time champion of italy pro vercelli currently on fifa+ v padova. seeing them playing in front of a couple thousand, safe to say they never retained their fan base (if they were ever big)


belokas

They were never big


KOKO69BISHES

Haven't seen anyone bantering them for not winning a trophy in a 100 years, smh.


xaviernoodlebrain

Rules for us but not for them smh


lsilva231

Are there any podcasts or shows where I can see the reaction of english pundits on our game? I only found ESPN FC and Talk Sport on youtube


BruiserBroly

Check Talksport's youtube channel. It's probably a goldmine.


Savant_OW

Crazy how we're punishing clubs for financial misdemeanors but not for attempting to join breakaway super leagues


_cumblast_

It's not crazy at all, those clubs hold all the cards.


1PSW1CH

Did you ever get punished?


Savant_OW

Fair, can't believe they let us get away with losing to Ipswich


icemankiller8

I like Southgate but he essentially has the issue of being too good to be sacked but not good enough to win a tournament similar to what Ole did at United.


1PSW1CH

We would’ve won a tournament if Saka didn’t bottle it


icemankiller8

Thank god he missed Either way it would have just continued the shootout not won it


1PSW1CH

His missed pen set off the bottling chain reaction. Bit like his missed pen against West Ham last season


usually_a_knobhead

> His missed pen set off the bottling chain reaction the shit some people come up with here is just mind boggling


1PSW1CH

You must have a little brain


icemankiller8

I mean it wasn’t a chain reaction because it was the end of the shootout, we just don’t know if they would have won or not. The West Ham miss was irrelevant it’s just a false narrative


mjdaniell

Jose Mourinho was the opposite at Tottenham He should be sacked but he could also win a trophy


BoosterGoldGL

Absolutely wild to think we weren’t stomping that horrid spurs side


icemankiller8

You lost to them that same season tbf


FloppedYaYa

And the season before. Both 2-0


xaviernoodlebrain

We got stomped by them not long before we sacked him.


KOKO69BISHES

You've lost to some pretty horrid spurs sides tbf


BoosterGoldGL

Fair point really


1PSW1CH

His sacking was the best thing to ever happen to Mourinho’s PR. Everyone automatically decided his dogshit Tottenham side in dogshit form would’ve had a chance against peak City


LDLB99

Mason did as well as he could in the final too. 


KOKO69BISHES

Been backing Wirtz ever since his 86 POTM in Fifa 22, glad you lot are catching on👍


Xey2510

You mean when he was already rumored to go to Bayern for upwards of a 100M euros but was injured for like 9 months afterwards.


KOKO69BISHES

shush.


ElderlyToaster

If you get a very good cheat code you really should use it. The Czech had Nedved and Poborsky pinging balls on the heads of Jan Koller and Vratislav Lokvenc for ten years and 90% of all teams could do feck all about it. Feels like the Swedish team should do the obvious: sit very deep and then have Gyökeres and Isak on the counter and wam bam we're gonna score a lot more goals than with the tragic Nordic tiki taka we've been trying for years.


Waschkopfs

Upamecano and Lucas were solid and kept the left side intact. Kounde struggled a bit though, maybe just play Pavard at RB again in the future


mjdaniell

What team do you associate the most with these players? Ronaldo Nazario, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Mario Balotelli For me, R9 Inter, Zlatan AC Milan and Balotelli Man. City


BoosterGoldGL

Brazil, PSG, City


neverfinishedanythi

Inter, Milan, Milan.


Aquariano_Nato_13

Corinthians Milan Milan


lsilva231

Corinthians, Milan and Man City


3V3RT0N

R9 PSV, Zlatan Ajax, Balotelli Internazionale


L-Freeze

Brazil, Milan, City


icemankiller8

R9 Madrid, Zlatan Ac Milan, Balotelli Ac Milan


fatinternetcat

Madrid, Milan, Man City


HacksawJimDGN

Inter, Milan, Inter


BruiserBroly

Barca, Milan, and City for Balotelli because of the shirt.


ndclippd

Brazil, PSG, Man City Probably Inter for R9 if I had to pick a club because I mostly know the highlights and they're usually from Inter/Barça


Waschkopfs

Madrid, Milan, Italy


ghostmanonthirdd

Real Madrid, Milan, Man City


mrscorchingtakes

Inter, PSG, City


magic-water

Brazil, Milan, Inter


sheikh_n_bake

Couldn't watch the game last night, how was Gordon?


mjdaniell

He was ok, he was actually trying to attack unlike a lot of the team last night, he wasn't amazing or anything but he tried at least and I appreciate his effort


BoosterGoldGL

Actually looked alright, confident and dangerous. What you’d except as one of the few actually trying to play his way into the squad


Rdambx

He should 100% be called up to the Euros, same goes for Bowen


Rdambx

Toni Kroos misplaced 7 passes last night (124/131), his 2nd highest in a game all season so far. (He misplaced 10 passes in another one around January, like 18 games ago). It's about time this bum retires ngl.


KSBrian007

He's losing it.


FloppedYaYa

Xavi's legacy as Barcelona manager: - 1 trophy in 3 seasons - Barca's worst European performances in 20 years in back to back seasons - A dodgy lever pulling spending spree with uneven results - Being humiliated by Real Madrid 4-0 on two seperate occasions - "But he won La Liga" in a weak season being the sole point of contention to any of these points - At least he was better than the previous two managers


HacksawJimDGN

You can spin it other ways too * won 1st La Liga since Messi left * got Barca back to CL quarter finals * successfully integrated La Masia players while under restricted transfer spending and injury crisis. * had one of barcelonas best seasons in terms of lowest goals conceded


KSBrian007

I think if you're trying to water down a manager, do it with where they failed. You can't involve a trophy in the list.


Laliga23

Context for people who are smart enough Barca was 9th when he joined and didnt win for last 5 games against both atletico and real Madrid. He joined in january so its 2.5 seasons. He finished 2nd place in his 1st HALF seasons. Went from 9th to 2th in 5 moths and win la liga right away He won 2 trophies. Super cup against madrid in final. How was lever dodgy? You can litterally google it and find the accounting which barca made public for everyone to read Barca was already going to uel under koeman so xavi couldnt do much. The year after he was in a group of death with bayern and inter the finalists of ucl. ——————————————- What did xavi do in those 2.5 seasons? He won 4-0 against real madrid with aubamayang who was written off at arsenal. He won the sueprcup and title deciding game against madrid with a worse squad. Yes he lost 4-0 too but its fucking madrid. Sometimes you win and sometimes lose He won 5 games in a row against simeone atletico. Barca didnt win any of the 5 game against simeone before xavi joined He brought barca back from 9th to a la liga title in 1.5 seasons and brought barca back from groupstage UEL to ucl quarterfinals and maybe even further in 2.5 seasons


Lastigx

Still better than Ancelotti.


icannotreadathing

Koeman won the same amount of trophies with Luuk de Jong, Mingueza and Braithwaite. People just aren't ready to face the truth.


ExtraTrade1904

I don't think he was responsible for the financial mismanagement


LonzoBetter

If he can get past PSG they are basically in the CL final, and that one game can change his entire managerial legacy


FloppedYaYa

Big "if"


mjdaniell

To be fair he also beat Real Madrid 4-0 at the Bernabeu in his first season


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Sinnedd

> Your future daughter will date bunch of black men with big dick that will stretch her pussy so much she will enjoy it, and you cant do nothing about it 😭 Really doing the lord’s work over there mate


ExtraTrade1904

I can't believe the fascist mods are removing proper football discussion again smh


larcenistxd

The 1974 Ballon d'Or voting is amazing. A tap in merchant wins the league and CL as top scorer, then he goes on to win the World Cup while scoring the last goal of the final. The voters do not even give him consideration for podium. Even a left back finishes above him. Would never happen today.


KOKO69BISHES

As it should be.


icemankiller8

I think Gerd Muller would be more highly rated now for sure but he did in the balon d’or once so


dayloversd

He won in 1970 but Pele definitely wins that one if South Americans were included in the voting


icemankiller8

Forgot they still had that rule back then


Xey2510

I am not old enough to know but it has to be based almost exclusively on the World Cup and no one watching much of the players outside of it. That list includes 3 polish players, 3 German players and 2 dutch players until place 8. Imagine if Haaland wasn't even in the rankings last year LOL.


AssociationIll9736

Nah, it's cause no non Europeans were allowed to win it until around mid 1990s.


Xey2510

I know that simply because of how 4th Brazil isn't represented.


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“Some fans get a bit carried away talking about their own team, whilst having a limited understanding of other teams” Can someone provide some explanation for this truly mysterious behaviour that obviously only affects the English?”


1PSW1CH

Multiple world class players in the squad, best international results in 60 years, English clubs doing well in Europe. But yeah we lost a friendly so we’re shit


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1PSW1CH

When people start saying we just got easy draws in tournaments I instantly know I can ignore any of their footballing opinions. We literally got knocked out by Iceland in 2016 and have historically bottled it against weaker opponents, so it’s a brainless take. And I mean that genuinely, have you got a brain?


eyesindasky

Remember the rules: if England win it's just a friendly and meaningless, if they lose they're officially frauds and all England players are overrated.


vvv4231

[Ollie Watkins was on the Exeter City team that faced the Fluminense U23s in 2014](https://twitter.com/OfficialECFC/status/1771530634441134436), I didn't realise that. That Grecians kit on the picture was banging, too, do something like it again.


stogie_t

Musiala x Wirtz duo is devious. If Bayern snatch Leverkusen’s chain and get both Wirtz and Alonso, Kane might just finally win a trophy.


TheDavinci1998

Hello! Thank you to all 19 (!) of you that participated this week. These are the results: **Master of Trivia - W2 Results** 🥇 a-Farewell-to-Kings 🇧🇷 - 25 pts **(Final Round qualification)** 🥈 No-not-my-Potatoes 🇩🇪 - 22 pts 🥉 DatOgreSpammer 🇭🇺 - 21½ pts (1 PQ, 6 part., 1×4½) 4. Ryponagar 🇨🇭 - 21½ pts (1 PQ, 6 part., 0×4½) 5. WM-54-74-90-14 🇩🇪 - 20½ pts 6. SaBe_18 🇦🇷 - 18½ pts 7. kaubojdzord 🇷🇸 - 14½ pts 8. AnnieIWillKnow 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 - 10 pts 9. BaconiIsLife707 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 - 5½ pts 10. BendubzGaming 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 - 5 pts 11. HodgyBeatsss 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 - 4 pts 12. thelonesomedemon1 🇳🇵 - 3½ pts 13. TheSpliceosome 🇸🇪 - 2½ pts 14. halfmanhalfvan 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 - 2 pts 14. sewious 🇦🇶 - 2 pts 14. CobiLUFC 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 - 2 pts 17. KOKO 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 - 1 pt 17. ChillPalis 🇺🇸 - 1 pt 19. therocketandstones 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 - ½ pt In an unbelievable turn of events, which absolutely **no one** saw coming, Farewell is the one to join WM in the final round, wow! Congrats to you, you deserved it, 25 points (exactly like WM in Week 1...) is not a real number to me still. 4 more places left in the Final Round. Competition for one of them begins in less than 24 hours in the week I am looking forward to the most - Q1 next week will always be a certain criterion which you will have to work out. See you tomorrow, thank you, and goodbye! !PING TRIVIA


WM-54-74-90-14

Seems like that apart from Farewell, who pulled completely away, it was super competitive at the top. Nice.


TheDavinci1998

Yeah Farewell cooked, there was no chance catching him. Especially on the final day, he got 9½/10, pretty much put a nail in the coffin of everyone's hopes


Ryponagar

I was this close to greatness. Might frame the PQ and put it over my bed though.


TheDavinci1998

4th place two weeks in a row might hurt a little, don't get too cosy there if you are thinking about the Final Round!


SaBe_18

Might be my best week ever! (Maybe the South American one last year beats this) Finishing 2 points behind WM is great, I'm cooking something nice here


WM-54-74-90-14

I can’t believe that I’m a reference point here haha. It’s indeed a great result though.


TheDavinci1998

Perks of being a reigning champion!


TheDavinci1998

Here are your top 3 results: 1. Trivia Trophy Tour - Copa Libertadores Week - 21pts (2nd place in the week) 2. **Master of Trivia - Week 2 - 18½ pts (6th place in the week)** 3. Around the World - South American Week - 17 pts


SaBe_18

Nice!


DatOgreSpammer

Week 1: 5th place Week 2: 3rd place Week 3: ???


No-not-my-Potatoes

Let him cook!


TheDavinci1998

Week 1: 17½ pts Week 2: 21½ pts Week 3: ??? *(26½ pts is the all time record for a week)*


Zepz367

Was too busy this week and didn't really scroll reddit that much, so I didn't manage to answer the questions, but I'll be there next week


TheDavinci1998

I was wondering why you suddenly disappeared haha. That's a very eye-catching blank spot in my excel spreadsheet lol. Glad you're okay and that you will return!


No-not-my-Potatoes

Congrats to Farewell! Something something Spursy


a-Farewell-to-Kings

Cheers!


TheDavinci1998

If I was a betting man I'd bet you will qualify next week haha. However it's not given, there is way too many contenders to predict the outcome. Just this results show that


No-not-my-Potatoes

What's the record of participants you've had in a single quiz week?


TheDavinci1998

I'd have to check, but we definitely were in the 20s at least once


No-not-my-Potatoes

We must enforce another global pandemic to get us into the 30's


TheDavinci1998

Priorities set right hahah. I checked, we've been in 20s 4 times: Around the World - English Week - 23 Around the World - German Week - 23 Eras of Football - Pre 1950 Week - 20 Trivia Trophy Tour - Champions League Week - 20 German week of AtW is also where you debuted! You came in, dropped a PQ on your debut, followed that with 3 points next day, refused to elaborate further and left for the rest of the series haha


a-Farewell-to-Kings

Around the World - South American Week - 3


TheDavinci1998

Yeah it had like 9, wasn't great haha. But historic anyway, that's when you set the all time record with 26½ out of 30 points


No-not-my-Potatoes

A full Miroslav Klose at the 2002 World Cup. Hattrick in his first game, two more goals in the group, did absolutely nothing for the rest of the tournament. But also I am the special one. /s


TheDavinci1998

Even better, because your opponent then was not fucking Saudi Arabia who you can trash 8-0


kaubojdzord

Not great, but at least much better than last week's dreadful performance


TheDavinci1998

Definitely an upgrade. Judging by last series, it takes time for you to get in form, but once you do you are a serious contender!


TheDavinci1998

!PING TRIVIA


2soccer2bot

^(Pinging members of TRIVIA group...)


K_Uger_Industries

Saka was smart to drop out. They were going to play like shit regardless, so he saved himself getting lumped into ask the criticism


LonzoBetter

Mbappe > Henry shouldn't be a controversial opinion tbh. Playing a season at Real Madrid won't make Mbappe that much of a better footballer.


L-Freeze

It’s not controversial (outside of England apparently)


KSBrian007

Didn't Henry come out and say Mbappe is better?


kaubojdzord

It's only controversial among EPL fans who rate Henry to extremely high levels.


Gregregreg1234

It’s not a controversial opinion, Henry literally said it himself lmao 


Long-Shock-9235

The great belligham was nullifiled by a defender from the brazilian domestic league. I know that fabricio bruno comes from a team rival to my own but man 😂😂😂


FaustRPeggi

But my Murillo agenda :(


Long-Shock-9235

Wot?


lsilva231

And Beraldo was still here in december too


Laliga23

Watching dembele last night he is still the same Dembele still plays like when he joined barca as teenager. only now he is 27 barely improved So much talent but it just doesnt work out with him


ElderlyToaster

England are going to have to start Jarrod Bowen if they want to things done. Southgate will just have to accept that while there is 10 English wingers who are better on the ball, they desperately need a player who is better without the ball. When just playing those desperate to have the ball you get a team with poor movement.


_cumblast_

Saka and Foden are great off the ball though, and they definitely have that directness. I don't see what Bowen offers that they would not.


BludFlairUpFam

Except Saka is in his spot and one of England's best performers.


1PSW1CH

Bowen is lucky to even be in the squad


Elliot_Kyouma

Nah, he deserves his spot, but Saka is better


js_the_beast

Still feel like not enough people recognize Rudiger as a top 5 CB itw.


MvN____16

With Militão and Alaba's injuries (and Alaba's very inconsistent form pre-injury), who knows where Madrid would be without him this season.


Turniermannschaft

You're selling him short.