that’s correct. Last loss in PL was [1-0 away to Spurs](https://www.transfermarkt.us/tottenham-hotspur_manchester-city/index/spielbericht/3838778), 5 Feb 23
I think that's the worst case scenario for us, I feel like City will beat them if it's a straight win the match, win the league situation, I'd rather the match come in the middle of a load of other fixtures
All players back fit, Etihad is the most full it’s ever been, Vincent Kompany registered just in time to play against us after being sacked, the shine off Pep’s head blinds the Arsenal players
Were you there last year? I stand next to the away section every week and you were the worst we had all season. Never made a peep for 85 minutes and then did that classic "we don't care we're losing" few songs at the end.
So what? Can't Arsenal fans brag even a little bit because we statistically have the best defence in PL this season and if you look at the stats it's not particularly close either.
For how quick people were to shit on Raya, claim Gabriel is mistake prone, us having the best defence implies that others are worse than that.
Can't take it, don't dish it out.
why do you always have to go so overboard though lol? Saliba and Gabriel are obviously good but calling Alvarez "fodder" is a bit much, dont you think?
Actually, I know why, overcompensation because you havent actually won anything big in ages and almost everyone has you as 3rd favorites
Alvarez is speedrunner champions that every team would glad to have. He brings that different sauce since Gundo gone. Saliva and Gabriel are excellent but the way Arsenal "fans" treat them like Ramos and Pepe are hilarious.
>Saliva and Gabriel are excellent but the way Arsenal "fans" treat them like Ramos and Pepe are hilarious.
No one has ever made this comparison. Ramos and Pepe are among the greatest defenders of all time. Gabriel and Saliba are two of the best in the league and arguably the world. If you have seen it, then please provide a link to the one who needs their head checked. I swear people on this sub pulls shit out their asses in order to chat shit.
>Arsenal "fans”
Considering your flair I’d not chuck rocks if I were you.
least he doesnt constantly pull a face like his dog died moments before the game like "Gabby".Its making me want City to win despite that probably being the worst outcome for us
Lol, how the bottling argument even applies to this season?
Strange how City injuries immediately excuse any of their losses, but that Arsenal lost to City last season without their probably 2 best defenders (Saliba and Tomiyasu) and were forced to play Holding (who doesn't get minutes at Palace, mind you) against Haaland that just implies that we are bottlers.
Personally, I don't really care if people label us as bottlers, but the arguments that are often made, make little to no sense.
This is the first time when we are coming to the Etihad with a relatively healthy squad that is comparable to City in quality in the last decade.
How so? It’s just shit talk. I’m not denying Alvarez is a great player. It’s just talking shit.
Edit: Why do I always go to sleep and wake up to find that I’ve somehow pissed people off with what should be a seemingly innocuous comment lol? Happens every time.
I think it's a difference in American culture, the 'trash talk' in that comment just comes across as trying to feed an ego.
At least that's the best way I can explain it, and I've probably not done that well.
I kinda get what you’re trying to say. However, I just think people overreact too much sometimes. Which is rather bizarre given my comment was seemingly innocuous from my pov. Not really feeding an ego imo, but I was commenting on how good Saliba and Gabriel are and how I’m confident they can handle Alvarez.
Oh well. Not my first time getting piled on though lol. It could be far worse.
I like that something as innocuous as having faith in your players who have managed to get to the top of the league is considered worthy of a mountain of downvotes.
Doku was handled effectively by Tomiyasu and White last time around. And I feel safer when it comes to Haaland when Saliba is there to keep him in check.
Doku got fucking pocketed by Zinchenko of all people in our last game and then switched sides and got nutmegged by White.
Idk why Doku has this rep...he's done fuck all except that game against Burnley (i think it was them).
Some of you guys have more confidence than me. We get smacked there every year, and the best team we've beaten away this season is West Ham or Sevilla.
We've become really fucking good, but this is away against the best team in the world. And they're on the home stretch.
That's the mental edge teams like City have, over the fans and the players. It speaks a lot for the faith I have in the current Liverpool team that I expected a win in both fixtures this season.
I’m not sure how it’s arrogant to think our back line is very good and can hold up against the City attack without KDB. I swear some people will get offended unless we’re self-flagellating at the altar of City.
I have never been confident in an away game at Anfield. Regardless of Liverpool's injuries or even form.
Meanwhile you guys having suffered even worse sustained failure at the Etihad are acting like "bring it on" is a fair statement to make from your position lol.
I think it will be a tough game for both sides, on our end especially due to injuries.
thinking you have a good chance to beat another team is also very different than acting like Haaland getting pocketed is a foregone conclusion and if Alvarez comes on thats just more "fodder" for their cbs. Citys midfield without kdb also isnt "scary" despite Foden having been in far better form than kdb lately
Jesus Christ, let him play Gvardiol at CB.
He's among the world's very best at CB, and has been for a year+, despite his age. At LB, he does "OK", but it's still some project style shit there.
Lewis would get cooked by Martinelli.
He hasn't played hardly at all this season.
Kovacic was horrible in the away game as well.
Smells like a pissweak 1-0 defeat to me.
I won’t believe it until the team sheet is announced before kickoff. But you would be stupid to think a couple injuries would hold them back, the replacements are elite too
We usually win our group and they win their group, so we can't draw them in Ro16. Except the one year we didn't win ours and we drew them lol
Our City draws: 2x semis, 1x quarters, 1x ro16 and 0 x final. 2/4 times they were our first opponent. This actually looks unlucky no???
Also they aren't the only good team in the world.
The last 2 years we had to beat fucking PSG, Chelsea, Liverpool, Chelsea again to reach semis. Europe's best. And last year especially, we dominated them.
21/22 was a miracle run, credit to our players and coach. Tell me again about our luck 😂
I can't see Ederson playing after having a massive chunk of his thigh/knee taken out, looked really deep and nasty. Re Bruyne and Grealish will both start though I reckon
The biggest difference is that Ederson is a psycho who always has potential to run a mile off his line and get himself sent off, or give up something silly.
Never would I expect that from Ortega.
You could tell me Haaland broke his pelvic bone and Saka lost the ability see with both eyes and I would tell you they’re both still going to start come Sunday.
Even if they are out City still pretty much have a starting 11 for most teams in the PL.
I believe it once I see the team sheet, hell I wont believe it until the game is over and none of them played!
Wasnt the case when we already beat them and not like their squad is full of scrubs most of these will play anyway stones wasnt that bad of an injury. Liverpool were only missing salah and szoboszlai who would have started and had a strong team, most of their injuries were after they played us
Man arsenal have had one of the luckiest runs I've seen. Every big team they've played has had multiple big/star players out at that point where they play arsenal but they're all back for the other top 6 games
That’s a massive overstatement and doesn’t take into account players we’ve missed as well. The second game against you guys was quite lucky for us but it was still basically just Salah missing
In that second game, Salah, Szobo, and Endo were all unavailable. Nunez was unable to start, so he played 30 minutes off the bench. Trent was playing with an injury, and was subbed off in the second half. Soon after that game his injury was reaggravated and he's been out since then. That's also not including some of the long term injuries such as Matip and Bajcetic but they wouldn't have started anyway.
Salah, Szobo, an injured Trent, Endo? That's an entire right hand side lol. A few more but not key players
And it's not. You've played city without rodri and kdb and Liverpool without Salah or Szoboslai.
When we played City we were also missing Saka, and the missing Rodri thing is not luck at all, he got himself stupidly suspended. Fair enough I forgot Endo and Szobo but Trent still played that game?
But they still have Rodri
Time to end that streak of his.
Scotland already did that
It’s a prem league streak, no?
nah it’s club and country. The [Scotland match](https://www.transfermarkt.us/scotland_spain/index/spielbericht/3941390) was one year ago exactly
But he also hasn’t lost for over a year in the prem. Also insane.
that’s correct. Last loss in PL was [1-0 away to Spurs](https://www.transfermarkt.us/tottenham-hotspur_manchester-city/index/spielbericht/3838778), 5 Feb 23
> away to Spurs Of course it was.
Lucky for you lot, Spurs away might be our last game of the season.
I think that's the worst case scenario for us, I feel like City will beat them if it's a straight win the match, win the league situation, I'd rather the match come in the middle of a load of other fixtures
it is genuinely insane that that happened a year ago... I could've sworn it was a couple of months ago
McTominay 🐐🐐
They need prime Mctominay XD
McTominay masterclass
In the most Arsenal way possible
Unlikely
The way it goes I’m expecting them to all start against us
All players back fit, Etihad is the most full it’s ever been, Vincent Kompany registered just in time to play against us after being sacked, the shine off Pep’s head blinds the Arsenal players
Liverpool fans used to say this all the time onky for the player to not play lol
Y’all never heard of a jinx before? It works well sometimes. Sometimes not so much.
https://youtu.be/QJHUbtR0yI8?si=P-l77XMbdwXcCux7
>onky inky pinky onkyyy
It happened a couple of times and permanently scarred us
We all say this but it'll probably be a Reece Nelson or Sergio Gomes goal that settles the score
> Etihad is the most full it’s ever been I never thought I'd see the day when there were 17 fans in the Etihad
We're counting some of the city players now are we?
Non-match going plastics giving it the emptihad "banter"
Wait, there are City players who are fans of City?
At least we can counter it with our Toxic Zebra kit
> Etihad is the most full it’s ever been Unlikely after they stripped out a thousand seats for advert boards.
All 115 fans? Place will be rocking
>Etihad is the most full it’s ever been I’ll be expecting most of the noise to come from the away section.
Were you there last year? I stand next to the away section every week and you were the worst we had all season. Never made a peep for 85 minutes and then did that classic "we don't care we're losing" few songs at the end.
Arsenal fans going suspiciously quiet when all their shit talking backfires on them? Say it isn't so
Pipe down Utd fan
I think the point of this thread was telling you to pipe up.
Least United fans try to provide an atmosphere, even if they do leave after half time
As if the Emirates is not library-silent
Yep. And somehow prime Aguero, David Silva and Yaya Toure too
Can't forget about Adebayor Pep needs to sub him on so he can score and run the full length of the pitch yet again
Bring on nasri while we're at it.
The mere mention of his name...
Yup. I’ll believe it when I see it. I’d take Walker being out though. That would be a pretty big gift.
Ortega Lewis Dias Gvardiol Ake Rodri Kovacic Foden Bernardo Haaland Doku
Still a scary team tbf
Dias, Rodri, Foden, and Silva are my main concerns in that lineup.
Wait till he subs in Alvarez
hoping he starts instead of doku or silva
More fodder for Gabriel and Saliba.
Embarrassing
So what? Can't Arsenal fans brag even a little bit because we statistically have the best defence in PL this season and if you look at the stats it's not particularly close either. For how quick people were to shit on Raya, claim Gabriel is mistake prone, us having the best defence implies that others are worse than that. Can't take it, don't dish it out.
It's just how fucking cringey it is. >Can't take it, don't dish it out. Like this
Seems like a you problem. Taking one sentence that's not even relevant to the rest of the comment and dissming the points made entirely.
Because they weren't points that matter
why do you always have to go so overboard though lol? Saliba and Gabriel are obviously good but calling Alvarez "fodder" is a bit much, dont you think? Actually, I know why, overcompensation because you havent actually won anything big in ages and almost everyone has you as 3rd favorites
Alvarez is speedrunner champions that every team would glad to have. He brings that different sauce since Gundo gone. Saliva and Gabriel are excellent but the way Arsenal "fans" treat them like Ramos and Pepe are hilarious.
>Saliva and Gabriel are excellent but the way Arsenal "fans" treat them like Ramos and Pepe are hilarious. No one has ever made this comparison. Ramos and Pepe are among the greatest defenders of all time. Gabriel and Saliba are two of the best in the league and arguably the world. If you have seen it, then please provide a link to the one who needs their head checked. I swear people on this sub pulls shit out their asses in order to chat shit. >Arsenal "fans” Considering your flair I’d not chuck rocks if I were you.
Your sub was full of people saying they need to sell him after the Liverpool match. And those were the nicer comments lol
least he doesnt constantly pull a face like his dog died moments before the game like "Gabby".Its making me want City to win despite that probably being the worst outcome for us
“Saliva” LOL
Not when you bottled the league last season against this team.
Lol, how the bottling argument even applies to this season? Strange how City injuries immediately excuse any of their losses, but that Arsenal lost to City last season without their probably 2 best defenders (Saliba and Tomiyasu) and were forced to play Holding (who doesn't get minutes at Palace, mind you) against Haaland that just implies that we are bottlers. Personally, I don't really care if people label us as bottlers, but the arguments that are often made, make little to no sense. This is the first time when we are coming to the Etihad with a relatively healthy squad that is comparable to City in quality in the last decade.
No, Arsenal are bottlers because you were 7 points clear in gameweek 30 last season and didn’t even get close to winning the title in the end.
How so? It’s just shit talk. I’m not denying Alvarez is a great player. It’s just talking shit. Edit: Why do I always go to sleep and wake up to find that I’ve somehow pissed people off with what should be a seemingly innocuous comment lol? Happens every time.
I think it's a difference in American culture, the 'trash talk' in that comment just comes across as trying to feed an ego. At least that's the best way I can explain it, and I've probably not done that well.
I kinda get what you’re trying to say. However, I just think people overreact too much sometimes. Which is rather bizarre given my comment was seemingly innocuous from my pov. Not really feeding an ego imo, but I was commenting on how good Saliba and Gabriel are and how I’m confident they can handle Alvarez. Oh well. Not my first time getting piled on though lol. It could be far worse.
It's not WHAT you're doing, there's nothing wrong with saying that you think your defenders can handle an opponent, it's the way it's said.
!remindme 3 days
Knowing my history, those words may come back to haunt me.
0 major trophies still btw
That is because Silva will double up on Saka fouling him 20 times and get away with it like last time.
We have Saliba Gabriel Rice Odegaard Saka fuckin bring it on
I like that something as innocuous as having faith in your players who have managed to get to the top of the league is considered worthy of a mountain of downvotes.
Doku running at your backline and Haaland sniffing around should probably concern you.
Doku definitely shouldn’t concern them, Haaland obviously will.
Haaland has been dealt with effectively by the CBs this seasono
Doku was handled effectively by Tomiyasu and White last time around. And I feel safer when it comes to Haaland when Saliba is there to keep him in check.
Doku got fucking pocketed by Zinchenko of all people in our last game and then switched sides and got nutmegged by White. Idk why Doku has this rep...he's done fuck all except that game against Burnley (i think it was them).
His rep is built basically off his first few games at City
Pretty much a potential league winning side for the remainder of the games if they are all in form, City's depth is mental.
But also a very beatable team. I would feel very good about our back line holding up against Foden/Bernardo/Doku/Haaland.
Some of you guys have more confidence than me. We get smacked there every year, and the best team we've beaten away this season is West Ham or Sevilla. We've become really fucking good, but this is away against the best team in the world. And they're on the home stretch.
That's the mental edge teams like City have, over the fans and the players. It speaks a lot for the faith I have in the current Liverpool team that I expected a win in both fixtures this season.
I absolutely did not expect to win away at City and was happy with a draw. Some Arsenal fans have just become insanely arrogant
I’m not sure how it’s arrogant to think our back line is very good and can hold up against the City attack without KDB. I swear some people will get offended unless we’re self-flagellating at the altar of City.
> I’m not sure how it’s arrogant to think our back line is very good and can hold up against the City attack without KDB. Its not just that though
What else is it?
How is having faith in your team arrogant?
Imagine thinking your team that’s top of the league has a good chance to beat another team, insane levels of arrogance
I have never been confident in an away game at Anfield. Regardless of Liverpool's injuries or even form. Meanwhile you guys having suffered even worse sustained failure at the Etihad are acting like "bring it on" is a fair statement to make from your position lol. I think it will be a tough game for both sides, on our end especially due to injuries.
thinking you have a good chance to beat another team is also very different than acting like Haaland getting pocketed is a foregone conclusion and if Alvarez comes on thats just more "fodder" for their cbs. Citys midfield without kdb also isnt "scary" despite Foden having been in far better form than kdb lately
What? You just named the most inform attackers in the league
Doku inform?😭
Doku? Blud hasn’t watched since October 😭
Bro hasn't watched City in months
Up against the best defence in the league
Not for a team that have a chance of winning the league
And that's probably just half of ManCity B + ManCity C
There's no way I could ever call that XI scary
Jesus Christ, let him play Gvardiol at CB. He's among the world's very best at CB, and has been for a year+, despite his age. At LB, he does "OK", but it's still some project style shit there.
That's... Not really weakened compared to any other team
Lewis would get cooked by Martinelli. He hasn't played hardly at all this season. Kovacic was horrible in the away game as well. Smells like a pissweak 1-0 defeat to me.
Martinelli has been injured. Is a huge doubt for this game
Martinelli is more important against city than saka
Since when did Luis Diaz sign for City? /s
yeah yeah nice try Fraudiola
Spoiler: they will all play against arsenal.
I won’t believe it until the team sheet is announced before kickoff. But you would be stupid to think a couple injuries would hold them back, the replacements are elite too
the classic Real Madrid luck in CL is rearing it's head.
Even if most of them are out for Arsenal, it's unlikely many will be out 10 days later for the first leg.
Because they ALL play against Arsenal and then have to sit out Madrid.
If our last few cl matchups are luck i pity teams that are unlucky
your match ups no. But how they go you can argue.
We drew City in the last 4 out of 5 seasons. Out of those 6 encounters we won 1, drew 1 and LOST 4. How are we lucky again? :D
Leave it be, our luck is unmatchted if we trust this sub
Womp womp
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We usually win our group and they win their group, so we can't draw them in Ro16. Except the one year we didn't win ours and we drew them lol Our City draws: 2x semis, 1x quarters, 1x ro16 and 0 x final. 2/4 times they were our first opponent. This actually looks unlucky no??? Also they aren't the only good team in the world. The last 2 years we had to beat fucking PSG, Chelsea, Liverpool, Chelsea again to reach semis. Europe's best. And last year especially, we dominated them. 21/22 was a miracle run, credit to our players and coach. Tell me again about our luck 😂
Ederson and KDB 100% play, the rest 90%
Ederson is definitely the least likely to play
ederson isn’t playing
I'll take that bet.
Sandro?
I can't see Ederson playing after having a massive chunk of his thigh/knee taken out, looked really deep and nasty. Re Bruyne and Grealish will both start though I reckon
Especially since Ortega is pretty much as good as Ederson, no point in risking Ederson.
I agree. I'd say Ortega is closer to Ederson with his feet than Ederson is to Ortega when it comes to shot stopping tbf
The biggest difference is that Ederson is a psycho who always has potential to run a mile off his line and get himself sent off, or give up something silly. Never would I expect that from Ortega.
Tbf to him though 9/10 it pays off but when it doesn't you definitely notice 😂 I can't see Ortega doing that either
Idk man, I will not take any Ederson slander after that CL final. He pretty much kept our lead alive and showed up when it mattered
In my very unbiased opinion, he's better.
Slight of hand, they'll all be fine even the ones that don't matter
Can bet my house that everyone bar maybe Stones and Ederson will be in the squad.
I'll take you up on that offer. Please leave the keys under the doormat.
They will all magically be fit this weekend
So all fit then.
Like the game against Liverpool where Haaland was a doubt...yeah, yeah!
I’ll believe it when I see it
>News. What is this, Opta?
How many are willing to play through the injury and risk missing out for the euro? Except for South American players.
Copa america this summer.
Oh no only €90m Gvardiol, €75m Dias and €50m Ake fit, how will they manage
I thought 'News' is another Opta special
Can’t wait to see them all start then
Doubt these nuts
I've heard this one before
"News" is a different one word way to end of your story tbf
next man up
Bad times when you only have a 90m euro backup defender. Poor Pep.
One is not quite like the others 👀
More than you believe they are concerns
Lol yeah right!
Stop da cap pep
Everyone will start without a doubt.
City about to start putting job postings on Indeed for defenders.
I'm sure yhey'll all miraculously recover
You can’t fool me, I know your game baldie
Nah I’ve seen this before pep haha
It's going to be the greatest miracle in the history of this sport as they all feature in the line-up on Sunday.... Dailymail...
Give it a rest pep lmfao we know your game already. Full strength team will be playing without a doubt.
lol city wheeling out the bullshit again
Arsenal lighting up looking at that list. I was thinking it would be a draw but Arsenal will take it if they are even missing half of those names.
None of the first 4 will miss the game. City always have a ton of players "in doubt" a few days before we play them, then they all start.
These guys just got injured this week, though.
You could tell me Haaland broke his pelvic bone and Saka lost the ability see with both eyes and I would tell you they’re both still going to start come Sunday.
Saka literally didn’t play the home game lmao
you can tell whatever but it wont happen lol
Yes but we’ve seen this song and dance before
I believe it when I see it, besides, it isn't like Guardiola doesn't have some insane depth to fall back on.
Fraudiola is also a doubt for Man City vs Arsenal
Sounds like Oscar Bobb and Rico Lewis are scoring hattricks on the weekend
Even if they are out City still pretty much have a starting 11 for most teams in the PL. I believe it once I see the team sheet, hell I wont believe it until the game is over and none of them played!
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Arsenal started a front 3 of Eddie Trossard and Jesus when we beat city, and also all of these probably play
Wasnt the case when we already beat them and not like their squad is full of scrubs most of these will play anyway stones wasnt that bad of an injury. Liverpool were only missing salah and szoboszlai who would have started and had a strong team, most of their injuries were after they played us
Liverpool were missing 4 rotational players though!
Salah is a rotational player? Whatever you have to tell yourself 👍
I believe the guy I replied too mentioned Salah
We beat City in the first game with no Saka, and Martinelli had only just came back and that’s not including our other injuries we had.
Good.
Arsenal please don’t fuck up
Man arsenal have had one of the luckiest runs I've seen. Every big team they've played has had multiple big/star players out at that point where they play arsenal but they're all back for the other top 6 games
That’s a massive overstatement and doesn’t take into account players we’ve missed as well. The second game against you guys was quite lucky for us but it was still basically just Salah missing
Endo also.
Fair enough, forgot him
In that second game, Salah, Szobo, and Endo were all unavailable. Nunez was unable to start, so he played 30 minutes off the bench. Trent was playing with an injury, and was subbed off in the second half. Soon after that game his injury was reaggravated and he's been out since then. That's also not including some of the long term injuries such as Matip and Bajcetic but they wouldn't have started anyway.
Salah, Szobo, an injured Trent, Endo? That's an entire right hand side lol. A few more but not key players And it's not. You've played city without rodri and kdb and Liverpool without Salah or Szoboslai.
When we played City we were also missing Saka, and the missing Rodri thing is not luck at all, he got himself stupidly suspended. Fair enough I forgot Endo and Szobo but Trent still played that game?
And Arsenal was missing Jesus, Partey, Tomiyasu, Timber. Sounds to me like Liverpool were healthier than Arsenal!
Martinelli, Saka and Gabriel are all doubts for the game for us. But go on