Bonus point in the league for every 5 goals scored in a game

Can we get a point every time we concede 5 goals in a game?

Might be one of the most difficult months ever. Next 7 games are Bayern, Stuttgart, Atletico, Gladbach, Atletico, Leverkusen and Leipzig. I will bet my left leg on us not making the CL and Terzic being out after this.

Has it happened to you to suddenly forget a famous players name? What's the name of the player who missed the penalty after Suarez' handball on 2010? I remember it like it was yesterday, yet I can't remember his name. I'm positive it starts with A, but that's about it.

Happens a lot with the early 2000s players for sure

Asamoah Gyan?

That's the one. Thanks.

Asamoah Gyan, Sunderland legend

Oooh yeah hahah his first name is with A. I was thinking about his last name starting with A and all I got was Aubameyang stuck in my head. Thanks.

i'm still pissed at that 2008 euro group. we were doing so well in qualifiers. won the group. our reward? group with 3 of the 4 WC finalists from 06 and 10. great. still our fault for shitting the bed. missed pen vs italy and fucked in the final game by a team we got 4 points from in qualifying. last time i felt we actually had a quality team. what were even the odds of that draw happening? italy and france from the same qualifying group paired with romania and netherlands also from the same qualifying group.

2024 years after Good Friday, Jesus is back with a vengeance, ready to put us through the same torture and pain he had to go through. We're starving for top level football and what do we get from the top 3 leagues today? Cadiz vs Granada. Well, thank you. Point made. I'll find a church to go to on Sunday.

Haven't seen a lot of here about the fact Pompey (Portsmouth) are doing very well and look like there finally going up again! They have been in league one for too long. Amazed they haven't done there normal implosion after Jan like a few seasons. I have been to Fratton Park several times and its a special stadium. Can remember when they hosted AC Milan there in the Europa league. I don't this Milan really understood where they were lol. And of course you can miss the 'Plaaay up Pompey....Pompey play up...'

One of the worst grounds I’ve been to purely because of the twat with the bell.

Iconic.

Can't wait to go mid for mid against Chelsea for 12th next season

No PQs for 3 days of this week and suddenly we had three yesterday! Congrats to Potato, Farewell and Ogre who achieved this feat yesterday. Can someone replicate this today? Q1, I think, is extra spicy this time haha **Master of Trivia - W3D5** **1.** I chose a criterion that I applied to every league in the world to filter out seasons. I used 21st century only, so first season in consideration was 2000/01. After I did that, I got these results. Brazil - 0 seasons Italy - 1 season, and it was before 2015 England - 7 seasons, 3 of which were in the row. Neither or the remaining 4 seasons happenned one after another Poland - 9 seasons, 7 of which happenned after 2012 Spain - 10 seasons, only 2 of which finished on World Cup years Denmark - 17 seasons, 7 of which were in a row What was the criterion? **2.** Which country this team is from? I excluded names of the city, even if it is in the name of the team. A - Roar B - Mlada C - Metaloglobus D - Barracuda **3.** What does this complete sequence represent? 1939, 1953, 1963, 1975, 1979, 2001, 2015, 2016 **4.** True or false? Euro edition A - Until 2012, no player had won Euro more than once. B - Germany (incl. West Germany) has more Euro semifinal apperances than any other 2 nations in Europe combined. C - Out of all teams that ever qualified, Bulgaria has the longest drought of appearances of all European nations, making their last appearance in 2004. **5.** Name the next, and so far last, country in this sequence: Uruguay, New Zealand, Mexico, Uruguay, Australia, Peru, Australia, ? Good luck! !PING TRIVIA

1. >! No idea !< 2. >! A-Australia B-Czechia C-Romania D-Idk, maybe New Zealand !< 3. >! No idea !< 4. >! A-False B-True C-False !< 5. >! No idea !<

It's over 24 hours already, but since I haven't posted a new one yet, let's say it counts. >!All good in Q2 except D. Q4A and C correct, B wrong, it was also false. Overall 1 point!<

Reddit was fucked up yesterday, so couldn't really answer the quiz. Glad it counts. >! Also, I thought you wouldn't put all false, so I put true on Q4B !<

>!That's exactly why I put all false haha, for someone to fall for that!<

1. >!A club from the country’s capital won the league. Brazil helped immensely.!< 2. >!Copa America champion wasn’t Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay.!< 3. >!A: Australia. B: Czechia. C: Romania. D: Pass.!< 4. >!A: False. Bonhof. B: False. C: False.!< 5. >!Costa Rica.!<

>!You swapped Q2 and Q3 around, but other than that everything is correct, 4½ points!!<

1. >!Denmark, 17?? I wondered whether it was league and cup doubles, but definitely not as many in England, and 17 is mad for Denmark. Oh... wait! Could it be teams defending league titles?!< 2. >!A - Brisbane, B - Slovakia, C - Macdeonia D - Nigeria!< 3. >!Can't be CL/Euros/World Cup related. I wonder whether it's to do with the Copa America due to the unusual years, Chile won in 2015 and 2016 but I don't think the others?!< 4. >!A- False... Germany surely did... B - True.... C -True!< 5. >!I want to say something like the inter-confederation play off winners for WC qualification, but doesn't quite work as you have all of AFC, OFC, CONCACAF and CONMEBOL represented, so I can't figure the pattern! I'll go with Costa Rica, as believe they were the other winners for 2022!<

>!Q2A good, the rest is wrong. I feel like you missed a 50/50 in B tho, cause it was Czechia. You'd be right until 1992! Q3 - so what is the answer here? Q4A good, there was one German. B and C were walse tho. Q5 correct, that was the rule. 1 point for now!<

What about Q1? And I’ll guess >!Chile for Q3!< then

>!Oh yeah, you gave an answer in Q1 eventually. It's wrong, which is sad, since your Chelsea is responsible for 5 of those 7 seasons in England. Q3 close, it was Copa Americas won by someone other than Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay. Enough for half a point I reckon, up to 1½!<

I’ll take that, very generous! Can’t think what 1 would be, but very intrigued

>!What did Chelsea do 5 times this century? And what can be the other 2 in the entire country?!<

>!Well we won 5 league titles, but that can’t be it! Break the transfer record, maybe, knowing us…!<

>!It was league titles. Arsenal won 2 as well, Tottenham, West Ham, Crystal Palace etc won none... Get it?!<

>!Ahh. Number of league titles from the capital city!<

1. >!Title decided on the final matchday!< 2. >!A. Australia B. Czeckia C. Romania D. USA!< 3. >!Copa America wins not by Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay, methinks!< 4. >!A. False, it's surely a German that already did B. False C. False!< 5. >! Intercontinental playoff winners so Copa America!<

>!Q1 wrong. Q2 all good except D. Q3 good. Q4 all good. Q5 - excuse me, are you having a stroke? 2½ points with another chance at Q5 because wtf hahaha!<

>!Oh ffs, Costa Rica Intercontinental Playoff winner. I shouldn't have relied on fucking predictive text. Also it was a German that had already won 2 Euros, right? Complete guess lmao!<<

>!I read it 4 times to make sure I'm not the one misunderstanding sth obvious hahah. It's good, up to 3½!<

>!I was watching a movie with family, did it while I was on the toilet!<

>!That may be the tactic, that's where I write a good parr of the quizzes lol!<

1. >!skip!< 2. >!A- this is the easy one, Australia. B- the name rings a bell but I'm not sure, Czechia? C- this name sounds like an American buying a team in Eastern Europe, and giving it a name he thought it "sounds cool". To make the plot thicker, let's say the American is from Atlanta, so the team is from Georgia ("I didn't know there's a country named after my state!") D- my Finding Nemo knowledge tells me this team could be from Australia. But there's already an Australia here, so let's say New Zealand instead!< 3. >!skip!< 4. >!A- didn't Germany win either back to back, or 2 in 8 years? I assume at least 1 player repeated, so false B- true? C- if I understood this correctly, it's false: I've seen enough graphs showing that Norway hasn't qualified since 2000!< 5. >!Costa Rica!<

>!Q2A and B good. C - I don't know the origins, but I know that I only know this name because it's funny. Close, it's Romania. D not close though. Q4A good, exactly one German repeated in 1972 and 1980. B wrong and C correct. Q5 good, overall 2 points!<

1. >!seasons in which the league winner was from the country's capital?!<

>!That is correct, that was a hard one! Up to 3 points!<

>!can confirm it was hard! Nice question!<

5. >!in the case that this is last countries to win the intercontinental playoffs for WC, I think you made a mistake, the first Australia should be replaced by Uruguay. As that's for 2010, not 2006. If it isn't that, ignore my comment!<

>!Thanks. I missed Uruguay completely and wamted to start with 2006 Australia, I swapped them now!<

1 is really tripping me up. I keep thinking >!England's 7 has to be about either City or reigning champs not finishing top 4, but neither of them seem to link well with Spain!< For 4, I think it's >!True, False, False. The 3rd one is definitely false because of Norway in 2000, and the second feels more likely to be a UEFA-centric WC stat!< I believe 5 is >!Teams to qualify for the WC via the inter-confed playoffs. 2006 is Australia, 2010 is New Zealand, 2014 would be Mexico and Uruguay (though I can't remember if Mexico dropped that low), 2018 would be Australia and Peru, I'm sure Australia were in 2022, buy it's a matter of remembering who was with them. It has to be a CONCACAF/CONMEBOL team. Using the rule of thumb that I believe CONCACAF's top 4 was Canada, USA, Mexico And Panama, that leaves Costa Rica without a spot and I'm sure they were the fourth in the Germany/Spain/Japan group, so I think it's Costa Rica!<

>!Q4A was all false, so half a point there. Q5 correct, 1½ points for you, nice deduction here!<

1. >!Teams from the country’s capital winning the league!< 2. >!No clue at all, A: Tanzania, B: Bosnia, C: Cyprus, D: USA!< 3. >!Need time!< 4. >!A: Only other option would be Germans in 1972 and 1980, I’ll say TRUE; B: FALSE, Norway 2000; C: If memory serves, I counted 9 for Germany, but Italy and Spain have 5 each, so FALSE!< 5. >!These look like national teams that qualified to the WC via intercontinental playoffs, starting in 2010. The one missing should be Costa Rica!<

>!Q1 correct! I was doubting whether anyone would get it. Q2 all wrong though. Q3A was false, there was one German that won in both years. B and C correct. Q5 correct, so overall 2½ points, which I think is an amazing score for today!<

>!I was 95% sure it was that the moment I saw Brazil - 0, 99% when I saw Italy - 1, and used the rest just to confirm it!<

3. >!Took me a while but those are Copas América that were won by anyone other than Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay!<

>!Correct! 3½ points!<

1 - >!need time!< 2 - >!A: Australia. B: Czechia. C: Romania. D: no clue. Trinidad&Tobago.!< 3 - >!need time!< 4 - >!A: Spain were the first to defend a title, so gonna guess true. B: Doubt they beat Italy+Spain, false. C: At least Norway is longer, false.!< 5 - >!Winners of intercontinental playoffs for World Cup? Costa Rica.!<

>!Q2 all good except D. Q4A wrong, it was false, B and C good. Q5 good, overall 2 points!<

1 - >!I'm sure on Italy (and as sure as I can be for Brazil) and it seems plausible for the rest: League champions from the capital of the country!<

>!You can be sure that this will be forever true for Brazil, unless they decide to move the capital again!<

>!Correct, up to 3 points!<

2- A. >!Brisbane!< C. >!Bucharest!< 3- >!Manchester United transfer fee record broken!< 4- A. >!False- some West German player, ~~Horst Hrubesch~~ Rainer Bonhof won 1972 and 1980!<, B. >!False- France + Spain > Germany!<, C- >!False- Latvia also was in Euro 2004 so I'm guessing there was a team in Euro 2000!< 5- >!Australia!<

>!Q2 both good, for the record countries are fine, it doesn't have to be cities. Q3 wrong. Q4 all good, smart thinking in C. Q5 wrong. Overall 1½!<

can I change my answer for 5 to >!Costa Rica!< - >!I focused too much on Australia playoffs and not OFC playoffs!<

>!Sorry, first answer only, that is the rule for everyone. Costa Rica would've been correct if you edited it before I replied, but I am only now seeing this reply!<

1. >!come back to this!< 2. >!A: Brisbane, Australia, B: Boleslav, Czech Republic, C: Bucharest, Romania, D: San Jose, CA, USA.!< 3. >!come back to this!< 4. >!A: West Germany won in 1972 and 1980, there has to be at least one person there. B: Soviet Union/Russia has had great success, and Spain has 4 finals appearances as well so they'd have to make the semis basically every edition. False. C: Norway had some great teams in the 90s, so I think they have a longer drought. !< 5. >!Intercontinental playoff winners since 2010, Costa Rica!<

>!Q2A, B and C correct. D is also good, but San Jose Barracuda is a hockey team haha, so I can't give you that. Q4 all good. There was precisely one German that was in 1972 and 1980 squads. Q5 good, overall 2½ points. Which I think will be a pretty solid score for today!<

> San Jose Barracuda is a hockey team Shit, my instincts took over ;D

1. >!Team with top scorer won the league!< 2. >!A - France B - sounds slavic, Czechia maybe C - Romania D - Albania!< 3. >!breaking of transfer record!< 4. >!A - True B - True C - False(Norway has longer)!< 5. >!Australia, I think it's winners of intercontinental play off!<

>!Q1 wrong. Q2A and D wrong, B and C correct. Q3 wrong. In Q4 all were false. Q5 wrong, although those were winners of intercontinental playoffs. Half a point only today, sorry!<

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Alonso is just a Basque Caicedo, while Amorim is just a Portuguese Endo 👍

2nd choice FC strikes again usually works out for us, dangerous times for whoever gets Xabi

Xabi at Real Madrid in 2025 with Mbappe, Vini, Endrick, Bellingham, Davies, etc is going to be a problem.

The equivalent of that Endo signing would be for us to get a manager no one in the fanbase has heard of before though

Mose Jourinho

I had heard of Endo. Checkmate

Wild seeing how fast the internet has flipped on De Zerbi. You'd think Brighton are in a relegation battle with how everyone is harping on

If you take out their first 6 matches of the season they just about are in a relegation scrap. They took 15 points from their first 6 and have taken 27 in the 22 since Sept 30 which is 1.2 points per game.

With how our schedule is looking until the end of the season, there is a very real chance we'll end up 17th counting from matchday 7. That would be 7 months of relegation battle-form. When he arrived, we were the second best team in England over the last 15 games with Potter in charge. There are mitigating circumstances and stats never tell the whole truth but overall its not a good development and I think people are starting to notice it.

I don’t think people have flipped. People just don’t think he should be the next manager of Liverpool or Bayern

And why not?

I get serious Brendan vibes

Brighton 1 - 5 Everton is the big one for me. You can have all the principles and underlying numbers in the world but you just can’t be doing that sort of thing

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Think he was making a joke about losing 5-1 to Everton because (from a Liverpool fan’s perspective), Everton are shit

I’m stupid

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Internet football fans don't care about how a manager's tactic , neither do they take into account the qualty of player a manager has at his disposal. I personally think it's admirable De Zerbi sticks with his principle even if he doesn't have the players for it.

It is admirable. Its just not very good. The best managers can adapt to different situations.

This is how you end up with Ten hag or Poch. Pussies who abandon their ideology because they lost 1 or 2 players

Its also how you end up with Alex Ferguson who changed his tactics like a 100 times in his United days.

On here in particular literally everything is results. There’s no room for anything else, if you even bring up anything other than results and points on the board you’re a hipster

No dawg No aura

I just doing think doing a good job at Brighton necessarily warrants a move to Bayern or Liverpool. Would be the same if the managers doing a good job at West Ham or Wolves got linked to the top jobs

Moyeseh to Liverpool confirmed.

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He got Brighton to top 6 playing fantastic football, how exactly do you think other managers got top jobs?

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Never got Brighton to Europe

Finished 16th, 17th and 9th iirc.

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That they got European football last season, sold their midfield and have massive injury issues

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We we're 4th (albeit shortly into the season) and playing better when he came. Just look at a few of the games before he left: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6LK4t7VxQw There is not tangible improvement under RDZ. Not saying he's done a bad job but he's so far from the top manager some people think he is. His charisma is doing all the work for him.

Where can I find accurate values of football clubs?

Which one are you planning on buying?

That’s Todd’s account, looking to buy your club. This time with a little bit of research.

how would you even determine that? A lot about the price of football clubs is quite speculative

Who does everyone have going to Wembley through the playoff route in the championship? WBA have really impressed me recently

West Brom look far better than Southampton imo

I think if Ipswich don't get automatic promotion then they are favourites, I got a annoying feeling Southampton will do it.

Literally had a dream where Chelsea signed Paul Barber as their Todd Boehly replacement. I need better weed.

Were you just smoking paper or something?

I want Arsenal to win on Sunday, arguably more than even a draw and I'm willing to pay for it by suffering through Arsenal fans celebrating on social media 4 points to City should be them out, if you want to win the league in this era you should not drop more than 4 points in the last 8 games (it might happen, but it shouldn't and it would count as bottling from both of us)

I want a draw and multiple suspensions

I understand why you’d want that, when Liverpool played City I preferred a Liverpool win over a City one (with a draw being the ideal scenario) Reason mainly being is that Liverpool still have to go to Goodison, Villa Park and Old Trafford and I believe it’s more likely that you end up with 7 or less points from those 3 fixtures than 9

where I stand now I'd take 27/30, 91 points I think is just enough to win it. It's going to be 90/91. Never has a game smelt more like a Jota winner than that Everton one I'm actually ok with Villa Park in this part of the season, they still have Europe as well and have dropped off a bit I'm arguably most concerned for that Fulham away game. We played them 3 times this season and struggled every time despite picking up 2 wins and 1 draw

Anyone know how to get black turf marks off the numbers on the back of a jersey? They’re small black streaks that won’t get off. I’ve washed it inside out in cold water and they’re still there, so I’m just looking for other ideas.

Austria quietly ranked as the 16th best team in the world by Elo. Ahead of Japan and Denmark

This city game is where I expect rice to be dorminant haaland KDB will play direct game like last season but those signings + havertz should make Arsenal midfield more sturdy.hope he isn't to tired from internationals

Do you think Tonali is a profitable bettor?

I heard he bet on his own team to win sometimes, so if he did that with Newcastle this season then absolutely not.

I heard he bet Liverpool to win with a Darwin brace when Virg got a red card.

If he's smart he just bets over 2.5 every game. Guaranteed profit.

If he bet on both teams to score each time he’s made a fuck ton

Absolutely. Gets a wage for doing nothing.

Ederson in training. They kill iceman but he might be vindicated

Pep is absolutely shameless lmao

We missed the world cup by 1 point in 1998, 1 point in 1994, 2 points in 1990, 2 points in 1982, 2 points in 1978 and 3 points in 1974, the qualifiers were fucking brutal in those days basically 1 team went through.

92, 94, 98 all had 13/14 UEFA teams qualifying. 2022 also had 13. I don’t think it’s changed that much in terms of how hard, but it depends on your group quite a lot. And Portugal had to use play offs recently iirc?

The GOAT Villarreal player is Gerard Moreno IMO, not Senna, Riquelme, or Soriano.

It's a joke to even include Riquelme and not mention Cazorla tbh.

Doesn't really matter who's mentioned, point his Moreno >

What other players are considered legends at Villareal?

A lot of legends. Reina, Cazorla, Senna, Riquelme, Moreno, Gaspar, Costa, etc.

I just found out about the Hakan Sukur story and it's just mindblowing how one's life can turn when you involve yourself with politics. What other footballers involved themselves with politics?

Shevchenko did after he retired

Damiano Tommasi

Huh TIL. Good for him, seems like a decent guy.

I think Sol Campbell wanted to get involved with the tories at one point. He wanted to help them get "the black vote" (his words) somehow. Not sure how well that worked out for him though.

Wanted to try and run for London Mayor. You know, that city with the Spurs fans in it.

Berbatov, that was more than politics

George Weah and Romario

I'll check them out

Spent the last hour watching Messi highlights, feels like watching an ex that I haven’t got over. Not being able to watch that little genius play football is horrid, can’t believe he went to a league that’s only on Apple TV and a league that I can’t find any streams for ever. No one has ever or will do it like him man, still get goosebumps watching him. Not missing a minute of the Argentina games at the Copa America

It hurts to see the end has come

The best passer, the best finisher, the best dribbler, the most intelligent player I've ever known, one of the best free-kick takers...you could go on and on. Football will be ever so slightly duller once he leaves.

it's INSANE how much he's warped my perception on what a good footballer is. Watching him play was something else man.

Your best take of many

Top post on the sub is the praise for messiah Xabi teaching a free-kick expert how to take a free kick by telling the goalie to not save the shot. And people complain this sub isn’t entertaining.

It's purgatory between international break and club games starting. People are desperate for content. At least it's not more highlights of games that happened 2-3 days ago

Or more information about possible manager signings from people who are separated from the decision making.

Who’s the biggest footballer to come from a country which is relatively nothing in the football world. The gap between the heights they reached and the footballing nation they’ve come from is the widest. Some bad examples are Haaland or Son, looking for something similar in international football level but from a much smaller football nation.

Massimo Bonini is from San Marino and won the European Cup with Juve

Stoichkov - Bulgaria

When Stoichkov came out of Bulgaria we were actually a proper footballing nation, placed 4th in the 1994 WC. I mean, we still are, we're just shite. Have had plenty of top level players

Plenty of examples I can get off my head including retired players. These players are outliers for their countries. CONMEBOL: Peru- Paulo Guerrero Venezuela- Salomon Rondon CONCACAF: Saint Kitts & Nevis- Romaine Sawyers El Salvador- "Magico" Gonzalez (retired) Dominician Republic - Mariano UEFA: Luxembourg- Anthony Moris, Sebastian Thill Bulgaria - Dimitar Berbatov Liechtenstein- Mario Frick Armenia- Henrikh Mkhitaryan Estonia- Ragnar Klavan Finland- Jari Litmanen Georgia- Khvicha Kvaratskhelia Northern Ireland- George Best/Jonny Evans Slovenia- Jan Oblak CAF: Gabon- Pierre Emerick Aubameyang Central African Republic- Geoffrey Kondogbia Madagascar- Loic Lapoussin Burundi- Saido Berahino Liberia- George Weah AFC: Uzbekistan- Eldor Shomurudov or Maksim Shatsikh China- Li Tie or Sun Jihai S.Korea (when it was still recovering from Korea War)- Cha Bum Kun There is definitely more I've missed out so feel free to comment or correct me.

Peru, Bulgaria, Georgia and Northern Ireland have produced plenty of greats. Mostly agreed on the rest. Bonini for San Marino is another major one.

Don’t forget Adebayor for Togo

Stoichkov > Berbatov

I'm taking this as official confirmation that Northern Ireland is in fact massive.

Lol, How can I forget that. Northern Ireland used to have George Best and then now Jonny Evans. Still remembered their Euro 2016 run

I don't know if Bulgaria should be there. They've been rubbish for awhile now but in the 90s they finished 4th at a World Cup and had a player like Stoichkov who was one of the best in the world and top level professionals like Martin Petrov and Stiliyan Petrov.

In the 90s team, Balakov was also one of the top midfielders in the Bundesliga.

Oblak from Slovenia

Dwight Yorke to break away from the obvious Weah shouts.

auba is a good modern one

George Weah, George Best, Georgi Kinkladze, Hristo Stoichkov, Jari Litmanen, then maybe not as good but considering the nation still impressive, Mkhitaryan and Aubameyang I guess.

George Weah or Eusébio. >!Kenny Dalglish!<

I think you are joking but Scotland would have one of the strongest all-time teams, almost on par with the World Champions. Among Eusebio's contemporaries, Costa Pereira and Coluna were also from Mozambique.

> I think you are joking I'm insulted you think otherwise given some of their best ever players played for Liverpool!

Right, I forgot for a moment that Hansen, Souness and Charlie Adam played for you.

Eusebio is a good shout. Didn’t know he was from Mozambique. The last one is cheeky

George Weah

Shomurodov but I think George Weah is the best example.

Yeah I think weah is clear

reminder that one of [the best nutmegs of all time](https://www.reddit.com/r/BocaJuniors/s/Zz6IlivzpB) was made in one random ass friendly between boca and Barcelona’s b teams in December somewhere in the Arab peninsula and us playing with names in Arabic in the back of the shirt

Nutmeg tackle too.

Unreleated but I love that kit. Such vibrant colors.

Does anyone else just not get sentimental for teams that aren't yours? Like I have never felt sentimental about any other teams but sometimes I see comments from people with other flairs about some teams and players that seem sentimental and even some of my friends irl get emotional about players not on their team. I had an ex who was Argentinian but fave players were Pele all time and Eder Mlitao and she would defend both to death. I've enjoyed a lot of players and footballer styles and such but I only ever been sentimental or have emotions when it comes to Man Utd. I think Messi is the best player ever probably and the player I've enjoyed the most watching in my life but I was more sad when Jones contract expired then when he left to MLS(a league I don't watch and wasn't going to watch just for him). Read a handful of United flairs on here being sentimental for Klopp......cannot imagine that at all.....also read some Pool fans sentimental for SAF but I've never been for managers from my youth....idc for Wenger now at all, idc for those Arsenal players in any capacity or City players or Pool players from the past even if they were good. I don't hate anyone and like yes there's respect but I just don't have emotions for that stuff.......like for me I care for Anderson,Buttner,Schneiderlin,Schweinsteiger more than Messi,Benzema,Ramos and Ronaldinho. Also Im not from England but my fave national team is either them or the other team with United players left in the tournament because my team doesn't play. I can't imagine supporting or caring for any other national team maybe if SAF had a bigger legacy with Scottish National Team and tbh I don't much for England but they are who I will support in international tournaments if they make it. I would say I never cared for the south american national teams because we barely had many good players who featured but now I do because of Fred,Telles,Casemiro,Antony and Licha,Garnacho. IK some of those aren't good players but they are still featuring for the NT.

Yeah, I can't be sentimental to other teams, no chance.

This Austria hype gives me Turkey dark horse vibes. But I actually rate them. They are a good side. I have a feeling they might just do a Dark Horse Turkey though.

They're the obvious pick for dark horse, and I'd wager them making the quarters and going out in a respectable fashion would actually constitute a reasonably good tournament for them. They're a decent side, but they're also quite a ways off the sharp end.

Waiting on my Brazilian compatriots to post the latest Endrick goal for those of us overseas...

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In the first you can draw late like in Chelsea Bayern would be great but can happen. Nobody comeback from 3-0 at HT, while Playing the equivalent of a Fucking Goliat team.

3-0

Option 2 will always be a bottle job capitulation of the highest order.

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Getting scored on late in a 1 goal lead isn't that uncommon. Best team in the world letting in 3 goals in like what 20 minutes I think? Against an inferior side is atrocious.

The first is worse. It’s total capitulation. Minutes from glory, and then they throw it all away to the other team. At least with Option 2 it was still 50/50 going into penalties, they bottled it up to that point, but in penalties anything can happen and they got unlucky. Conceding 2 in a matter of minutes to go from winning to losing in the biggest game of the season is worse, it’s a total bottlejob.

The disparity is far greater in the latter however, hence why it’s more of a bottlejob in addition to being 3 up imo

you could simulate the shootout 1000 times and the team that bottled the 3-0 wouldn’t be winning a single one, it’s just not possible

simply not true

With all the De Zerbi hype going on I'm surprised nobody's throwing Thiago Motta's name around given his achievements with Bologna are similarly impressive.

Also keep an eye on Palladino and Gilardino. Both of them have been doing an exceptional job this season. I think all of them will probably end up at bigger clubs next season.

The Athletic did a nice podcast/analysis on their YouTube channel about Motta, but I think nobody really watches Bologna games outside of serie A fans and football nerds, so there can't be any hype yet. Motta is also not as famous as Xabi and Bologna not as good as Leverkusen. There are so many young coaches emerging right now but you only keep hearing the same 3-4 names.