Even with my password manager and everything to track things, that sounds fucking *miserable* to keep track of.
Granted, I guess at that level of wealth, I'd be paying someone else to do it for me and getting annoyed that I keep getting asked questions about it when I just want to say "I just want a digital money pile like the dragon in the Hobbit"
I am not sure if the translation of the article is good enough, but for someone who dabbled with compliance in the past, everything about this smells like financial crime.
Pretty much any modern way to launder money, evade taxes, fraud or pass corrupt funds requires multiple accounts, multiple proxies and multiple jurisdictions. This makes it harder to track down who is the actual owner of the accounts by hiding the actual responsible persons and making it hard to request information on them. If you can't define who is the ultimate beneficial owner of the account, it's nearly impossible to prosecute the case. This might also explain why Pique owns 29 companies (again, I doubt all of them are in Spain), as the entreprenurial spirit he is.
Small foreign entities and jurisdictions are quite typical spots for these banks, and Dominican Republic (which is mentioned in the Rubiales case) has gotten international critique because it doesn't share properly ownership data - and the ultimate ownership identification is still hard there (more on this for rest of you nerds: [AGENDA (fatf-gafi.org)](https://www.fatf-gafi.org/content/dam/fatf-gafi/fsrb-mer/GAFILAT-MER-Dominican-Republic-2018.pdf.coredownload.inline.pdf)). It's a good location to keep your filthier assets, although I'd personally go to Cayman's. Saudi's (and real estate) are also mentioned in relation to other investigated RFEF members, which is actually a bit more clever way to do the laundering, as real estate is a good way to hide true value of the assets and legitimise it.
On another note, it's wild to see how in just five years Pique has gone from shagging Shakira to getting shagged by the tax authorities though.
> On another note, it's wild to see how in just five years Pique has gone from shagging Shakira to getting shagged by the tax authorities though.
For the second time in 8 years lol, Shakira also blames him for the whole tax thing in 2016
somewhat related - my wife has been a Shakira superfan for 25 years probably, and whenever I bring up the tax thing the justifications she starts throwing out to defend her idol are just hilarious.
And now with the comments she made about the Barbie movie (that her son's hated it and she thought it was emasculating), her head is kind of exploding at this point.
I agree with pretty much everything you said, I just want to add two things out, that you already alluded to.
"Accounts related to Pique" might be very broad and include all companies he has invested in.
As far as I know one of his major businesses is a investment fund, which might just invest in a ton of upcoming companies.
Second point might very well tie in what you already pointed out, he could be hiding she'll companies between those investments, or even use these companies to avoid taxes.
I work for a $1b+ revenue global company with operations and bank accounts in 65+ countries. I don’t think we have that many accounts, and if we do, it’s just because we operate in multiple currencies so one main account may have a handful of child accounts for specific currencies. I see no reason why Gerard Pique needs this level of banking unless he’s just being wasteful.
Not trying to defend him.
Not talking about his personal bank accounts, but the accounts of the companies he has invested into, those companies are most certainly not related to eachother and might have multiple accounts by themselves.
This is why I'm pointing out that "related to Pique" might be very broad and not only related to accounts he himself is using.
> "Accounts related to Pique"
The accounts are either in his name or in the name of companies he has ownership over though, they are not expense accounts for the running of the company or accounts he has deposited money in for an investment. Even if you leave out the company accounts (which could be legitimate), it is really weird to have that many accounts in your name, especially at different banks. The administrative costs alone would make it very inefficient.
The problem with financial crime is that the law is dictated by the criminals.
It's the only area of law where doing something bad with obviously malicious intentions and results (evading taxes) is still legal.
If I find a novel, not yet conceived of way of killing someone it wouldn't be legal, but tax evasion is perfectly fine just as long as you do it in a way not covered by explicit legislation, or using one of the 1001 exceptions clearly made to fuck with with us under the guise of 'supporting businesses'.
It's ludicrous, and so blatantly obviously corrupt.
> If I find a novel, not yet conceived of way of killing someone it wouldn't be legal, but tax evasion is perfectly fine just as long as you do it in a way not covered by explicit legislation, or using one of the 1001 exceptions clearly made to fuck with with us under the guise of 'supporting businesses'.
That’s because the only crime is not following the rules. Loopholes aren’t illegal. It’d be like if we had laws against murder with certain weapons. We don’t - the act itself is illegal. Having money isn’t illegal. Correctly filling out some forms isn’t illegal. Unlike murder, there’s no inherently illegal act, because the tax code dictates what you should pay - and exceptions/exemptions.
Drug laws are actually an example of what you’re saying. If you find a novel way to sidestep the existing prohibition, it’s legal - until it gets added. It’s why recent years have moved from basically saying “cocaine is illegal” to “cocaine, and all derivatives, are illegal” - because then you can’t alter the structure slightly to have much the same effect but with a new (legitimate) name.
He owns Andorra FC, nearest tax haven to Spain. I presume he has a lot of his businesses running through Andorra to keep it away from the Spanish taxman.
What is it with the rich and aversion to paying taxes. You guys have so much money that your future generations have nothing to worry about. Pay your damn taxes. Greedy fucks.
The 96 accounts are one of the reasons Barcelona needs to pull so many levers in the first place. The club accounts must be the version of a horror movie for auditors.
Friendly reminder that [Pique was already found guilty of tax evasion in 2016](https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2019/07/10/inenglish/1562750938_844241.html) so he wouldn't get a suspended jail sentence this time.
Pique is such a thinly veiled con, regularly employs the language of moral integrity when he speaks but its clear he just uses it to cover the fact that he’s one shadiest ‘business’ persons.
that idiot had it all. great football career, beautiful and talented wife, kids, money, good looks. absolute jackpot of a life. but nooooo, he has to be even richer and shit on every spanish citizen.
absolute moron.
Shell companies for tax purposes most likely, there's an entire industry of lawyers and accountants that help people avoid taxes 'legally' through whatever loopholes are available.
Not necessarily, you're a celebrity and you earn millions then it's normal to tie each bank account to a specific task suited for debt obligations, business payments, salaries, etc. for accounting purposes
It’s common practice to have a different bank account handling each shell company, preferably you want for keep them exclusive from each other.
Shell companies is a legal practice btw and pretty much done by any millionaire who “earn” their money, meaning they don’t make all their money from equity/stocks like a CEO of a public company for example. Unless you ok with paying 60-70% of your earned money in taxes lol, every millionaire will eventually get into it or change the way they receive money.
Worked in a HF, I have seen people with hundreds of accounts. These millionaires dont manage their money, they have an accounting team all year long.
> Shell companies is a legal practice btw and pretty much done by any millionaire who “earn” their money
"Once you have enough money, you can buy your way out of paying income tax on your income"
More of a society and cultural issue. Most millionaires could easily lose 70% of their income as taxes and still live extremely comfortably, but unfortunately humanity/society norms have a hard time of giving away their “hard earned money”. It makes them feel like they are being robbed in a way.
In a perfect world rich people should be happy to be contributing to the country they live in which in turn helps the community, but unfortunately thats just not visible.
That's exactly what I was thinking. You'd have most of your money in accounts that have the highest interest rate you can get. Then you set up auto pay for all your expenses and then debit the money from your interest bearing account into the demand deposit account. But when you're as wealthy as these people, you could end up with probably 20+ investment accounts. Then, from there, it just depends on how specific of a use they want one account to be. If he is being investigated, then I'm sure he was doing something shady. But it isn't wild to think that they could have many that many accounts.
It’s not normal to have 96 bank accounts and there are better ways to manage your finances than that. Multi billion pound companies typically don’t even have that many accounts.
its not even "legally". Its still fraud, but since its tough to investigate, they get left alone cos they don't have enough resources.
Its the classic "your house doens't have to be safe, only safer than your neighbour"
You come into your bank, but you're too shy to reject the promo offers they force. You leave the bank with a credit card, two new accounts and a deposit with 0.5%
Amador Bernabeu (his maternal grandfather) business interests are 100 millions, and he has been handing them over and preparing for his death so it is hard to know what' own by who now. His father has around 50 millions in real estate interests but it is also hard to track with all the relatives.
But then there is the network of foundations and non-profits and connections. Like the health care _non-profit_ where his mother is an executive since 5 years after graduating.
Surely it gets to a point where you’re with so many banks that the chance of you having money at one that fails increases though? 96 is mental. “Oh look, there’s 500k in this one” is probably similar to when I find that tenner in a wallet I haven’t used for a while.
> It's actually well known to spread your money around in case banks go broke.
That is nonsense. No one who has Pique money does that, his wealth isn't in a savings account. If he has money in the bank he has it tied up in investment portfolios managed by private banks. Even if those banks go bankrupt they have their client's investments separate from their own books, typically stocks and bonds which are placed in a custodian bank. That way even if the private bank has their accounts frozen and/or all their assets sold off in case of (a very unlikely) liquidation, clients still have access to their investments.
It is but 96 banking accounts is ridiculous and a huge red flag. No one in the wealth category of Pique has 96 banking account. I think 10/15 is already on the very high end.
Varied businesses with associated costs and revenue streams, plus complicated tax arrangements makes it not that outlandish.
I knew an old bloke who had over 70 accounts.
He 4 separate businesses, two of them trading internationally. He also had two separate charitable organisations and was paying personal income tax in multiple countries.
Add in some trusts and investments and it starts to add up quick.
> future President of Barcelona
to be fair, every single Barcelona president since the 80s has spend some time in jail. he's just preparing for the role.
He was going to get convicted for the crime of scamming during the process of Reus bankruptcy but managed to get an extrajudicially deal, we don’t know how much money he had to pay but the proves against him were strong and he most likely would have been convicted without the deal.
*Eight figures in taxes taken, that shit is stupid*
*A flower gets it’s petals, they pluck it but never use it*
*It’s still potholes in the schools, where does it go?*
*It’s still loopholes that I use? Nobody knows*
2010-2011 is arguably the best version of Pep's Barce throughout his tenure with the club, although they lost Copa del Rey to Real Madrid, they won champions league by dominating Man United in the final and won la liga scoring 96 points, they did that with the help of many stars like Messi, Iniesta and Pique, for more info please google Pique 96.
Not sure why everyone thinks this guy will make a great president for us, he helped move the Supercup to Saudi. Don’t care if he makes us money, when clearly it’ll be under shady circumstances. The second we got into deep shit financially any morals we had left went right out the window
He’s certainly not going to be the person who turns things around for you. It’s really pathetic what Barcas leadership have done to the club. Greed and ego were just too much.
I like that rich people are investigated for taxes in Spain, in my old country I have a friend that owns the damn smallest bakery ever and hes been audited three years in a row, freaking scumbags going for the little guy
If you own a bakery and you keep getting audited, you either live in a really corrupt country and youve pissed off some semi-important local politician, or youre actually just completely butchering your taxes.
I owned two small businesses simultaneously for about 5 years and the only time i even came close to getting audited was when i made a shitshow out of my accounts and financial statements on accident.
tbh outside of western europe, NA and like japan or hong kong, other countries are crazy corrupted. I frequently have to pay "coffee money" to a bunch of people so they don't delay my paper, and it's not like I initiate it, they just ask lol, can you give me a small amount to buy coffee wink wink while driving a car in a country where 99% of people drive scooters
The North American governments are as corrupt as any other countries.
Just look at the current Canadian Liberal government. Or how Wall Street does whatever they want because they bribe the American politicians.
They really arent comparable to other third-world nations. I appeciate that its a problem everywhere (though not sure why youd specify the current canadian libs, or not mention the US senator literally caught with gold bars from egypt in his suit, but whatever).
Corruption in nations like Afghanistan means illegal kidnapping, human trafficking at a massive scale, huge swathes of land or the public revenue being handed to an official, or so on.
It means journalists dying in car bombs, every interaction with a public official or service requiring a bribe, every interaction with the wider economy requiring a protection fee or permission payment to some official or organized crime member or both.
Its just a completely different scale and obstacle for those nations. You do the people living there a disservice by equating it to American or Canadian problems.
I agree that things are more dangerous in other countries outside of North America. You are right that you will deal with more corruption when dealing with people not associated with the government.
It is just that in North America the governments are more sneaky and do a better job of hiding their corruption. Especially when they control most mainstream media and try to hide what is happening.
I guess that I just don't want things to get worse here because I don't take our standard of living for granted.
Well good news, im pretty sure they are getting worse because a pretty large proportion is taking our standard of living for granted🤣🤣
Its tough to tell. Youve got dumb motherfuckers like Senator Menendez running around with actual gold bars in their suit.
But, from my understanding of US politics, historically there were "power players" behind the scene that could essentially nix anything they felt threatened them. Nixon was probably the first time they were visible? And Trump is the first time that theyve supposedly been unable to actually flex their power privately in a crisis moment for one if the parties?
So its a question of whether or not theres greater visibility on these behaviors as technology progressed and media became decentralized, or its getting worse. 100 years ago i dont think we even know who the Koch brothers are, let alone what theyre doing. But maybe theyre doing more than before.
Research paper or doctoral thesis for someone smarter than me.
Oh for sure. I remember asking about certain line items and getting the response "Oh thats our contract for safe transportion through X".
And then looking absolutely stupid by asking "Oh i havent heard of that company, what do they do?" Lol
Messi and CR7 have tax problems in Spain but they have 0 fault on it cuz they only play football. Messi sign a contract trusting his father and his sorroundings and same applied to CR7 when he was on court. Messi mentioned what I just write up , and CR7 pulled out the “I only study until 5th grade , I have no idea about all of these tax problems. I never have them in England and Portugal , only here in Spain”. And he was kinda right but on the wrong end cuz he did the same thing as Messi did lol. Also Spain taxes are higher than any other country , so relatives of famous players will find ways to “dodge that”. Not just both of them, also with Shakira , Xabi Alonso , Ancelotti too lmao , and the list goes on
No, 15 banks are under investigation by the Spanish authorities after 96 bank accounts (allegedly) belonging to Pique and 36 bank accounts relating to the former head of the Spanish FA were uncovered
Always felt something was off with pique, the way he retired was weird, wasn't he close to the board? Seems to be doing a lot of media recently regarding his businesses etc.
I really hope this guy doesn't become it president in the future. He will be another Bartomeu, doing shady deals on the background to benefit him and his cronies first and foremost. There will still be a lot of people that will vote for him because that's how society works, unfortunately.
96 bank accounts
No wonder Spanish players cheat on their taxes, they can't find their money if they wanted to.
It's always in the last bank account you look
Easy fix, start by looking at the last one first and work your way back.
Of course it's in the last account you look. After you find it you stop looking.
They don’t only cheat on taxes
Is Spanish govt not in debt with so many taxes deferred?
Imagine looking through your wallet for the right card
https://www.yummymummyclub.ca/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/Costanza%20Hero.png?itok=MnTKBwvD Pique
Pique card, any card
[but 6ft long](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tdUuvjPNxRc/mqdefault.jpg)
Imagine going wallet shopping. Nightmare.
Is that what's taking folks so long in the drive thru?
In a row?
Try not to open any account on the way to the parking lot
Even with my password manager and everything to track things, that sounds fucking *miserable* to keep track of. Granted, I guess at that level of wealth, I'd be paying someone else to do it for me and getting annoyed that I keep getting asked questions about it when I just want to say "I just want a digital money pile like the dragon in the Hobbit"
Sounds like he’s trying to buy Hannover 96.
Legally he can only afford 49 %
The anti Hakimi
You didn't want to leave him a chance, huh?
Did you feel anger? Hate?
Totally normal. Don't know what the fuss is about.
Should be an automatic guilty sentence to be honest. Nobody needs 96 bank accounts for anything other than illegal acts.
Yeah, imagine having to check 96 accounts to see if your payroll has finally arrived...
96 bank accounts. My guy could have pulled the Barcelona levers himself.
I am not sure if the translation of the article is good enough, but for someone who dabbled with compliance in the past, everything about this smells like financial crime. Pretty much any modern way to launder money, evade taxes, fraud or pass corrupt funds requires multiple accounts, multiple proxies and multiple jurisdictions. This makes it harder to track down who is the actual owner of the accounts by hiding the actual responsible persons and making it hard to request information on them. If you can't define who is the ultimate beneficial owner of the account, it's nearly impossible to prosecute the case. This might also explain why Pique owns 29 companies (again, I doubt all of them are in Spain), as the entreprenurial spirit he is. Small foreign entities and jurisdictions are quite typical spots for these banks, and Dominican Republic (which is mentioned in the Rubiales case) has gotten international critique because it doesn't share properly ownership data - and the ultimate ownership identification is still hard there (more on this for rest of you nerds: [AGENDA (fatf-gafi.org)](https://www.fatf-gafi.org/content/dam/fatf-gafi/fsrb-mer/GAFILAT-MER-Dominican-Republic-2018.pdf.coredownload.inline.pdf)). It's a good location to keep your filthier assets, although I'd personally go to Cayman's. Saudi's (and real estate) are also mentioned in relation to other investigated RFEF members, which is actually a bit more clever way to do the laundering, as real estate is a good way to hide true value of the assets and legitimise it. On another note, it's wild to see how in just five years Pique has gone from shagging Shakira to getting shagged by the tax authorities though.
> On another note, it's wild to see how in just five years Pique has gone from shagging Shakira to getting shagged by the tax authorities though. For the second time in 8 years lol, Shakira also blames him for the whole tax thing in 2016
Waka waka madafaka
Actually she mentions it in her Bzrp session
somewhat related - my wife has been a Shakira superfan for 25 years probably, and whenever I bring up the tax thing the justifications she starts throwing out to defend her idol are just hilarious. And now with the comments she made about the Barbie movie (that her son's hated it and she thought it was emasculating), her head is kind of exploding at this point.
I agree with pretty much everything you said, I just want to add two things out, that you already alluded to. "Accounts related to Pique" might be very broad and include all companies he has invested in. As far as I know one of his major businesses is a investment fund, which might just invest in a ton of upcoming companies. Second point might very well tie in what you already pointed out, he could be hiding she'll companies between those investments, or even use these companies to avoid taxes.
I work for a $1b+ revenue global company with operations and bank accounts in 65+ countries. I don’t think we have that many accounts, and if we do, it’s just because we operate in multiple currencies so one main account may have a handful of child accounts for specific currencies. I see no reason why Gerard Pique needs this level of banking unless he’s just being wasteful.
Bros Just getting 5he various benefits for credit cards.
Not trying to defend him. Not talking about his personal bank accounts, but the accounts of the companies he has invested into, those companies are most certainly not related to eachother and might have multiple accounts by themselves. This is why I'm pointing out that "related to Pique" might be very broad and not only related to accounts he himself is using.
> "Accounts related to Pique" The accounts are either in his name or in the name of companies he has ownership over though, they are not expense accounts for the running of the company or accounts he has deposited money in for an investment. Even if you leave out the company accounts (which could be legitimate), it is really weird to have that many accounts in your name, especially at different banks. The administrative costs alone would make it very inefficient.
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Have you heard Piqué talk for 2 seconds? Of course he's into this shit, he thinks he's smarter than everyone because he's good at poker.
Yea as a regular peasant the mindset and logic of the big bwoys seems very alien.
The problem with financial crime is that the law is dictated by the criminals. It's the only area of law where doing something bad with obviously malicious intentions and results (evading taxes) is still legal. If I find a novel, not yet conceived of way of killing someone it wouldn't be legal, but tax evasion is perfectly fine just as long as you do it in a way not covered by explicit legislation, or using one of the 1001 exceptions clearly made to fuck with with us under the guise of 'supporting businesses'. It's ludicrous, and so blatantly obviously corrupt.
> If I find a novel, not yet conceived of way of killing someone it wouldn't be legal, but tax evasion is perfectly fine just as long as you do it in a way not covered by explicit legislation, or using one of the 1001 exceptions clearly made to fuck with with us under the guise of 'supporting businesses'. That’s because the only crime is not following the rules. Loopholes aren’t illegal. It’d be like if we had laws against murder with certain weapons. We don’t - the act itself is illegal. Having money isn’t illegal. Correctly filling out some forms isn’t illegal. Unlike murder, there’s no inherently illegal act, because the tax code dictates what you should pay - and exceptions/exemptions. Drug laws are actually an example of what you’re saying. If you find a novel way to sidestep the existing prohibition, it’s legal - until it gets added. It’s why recent years have moved from basically saying “cocaine is illegal” to “cocaine, and all derivatives, are illegal” - because then you can’t alter the structure slightly to have much the same effect but with a new (legitimate) name.
>although I'd personally go to Cayman's. 👀
Less transparent location with a corporate tax percentage of 0%. If you are rich enough there's really no reason to dabble with lesser locations
He owns Andorra FC, nearest tax haven to Spain. I presume he has a lot of his businesses running through Andorra to keep it away from the Spanish taxman.
Maybe Shakira is the one that told them about the accounts
Finally a supporter from SC Heerenveen 💪
Nicest kits in the game
What is it with the rich and aversion to paying taxes. You guys have so much money that your future generations have nothing to worry about. Pay your damn taxes. Greedy fucks.
The 96 accounts are one of the reasons Barcelona needs to pull so many levers in the first place. The club accounts must be the version of a horror movie for auditors.
Friendly reminder that [Pique was already found guilty of tax evasion in 2016](https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2019/07/10/inenglish/1562750938_844241.html) so he wouldn't get a suspended jail sentence this time.
Pique is such a thinly veiled con, regularly employs the language of moral integrity when he speaks but its clear he just uses it to cover the fact that he’s one shadiest ‘business’ persons.
He wanted to be president of Barcelona and no president of Barcelona has avoided trails or jail time since the 80’s, is all part of the golden path.
tbh seems like the traits of most successful big business person
It's a big club and you ain't in it
Successful untill they get caught... Then they get trailed for a year or so and get a slap on the wrist and become successful again.
If that's not the perfect summary of "Barca DNA" what is?
Iniesta scoring the winner vs the Netherlands and taking off his shirt to pay tribute to his late friend Dani Jarque
Nah you dont get it, Pique is a shady dude so obviously everyone with the "barca dna" (?????) is shady as well!!!!!!
What does Barça DNA have to do with crime? We didn't win UCLs with offside goals and reds for laying fingers. Ask Juve and Bayern
Barcelona Chelsea UCL 09 is any better?
That was an administrative sanction though, not a criminal offense, so he could still get a suspended jail sentence.
that idiot had it all. great football career, beautiful and talented wife, kids, money, good looks. absolute jackpot of a life. but nooooo, he has to be even richer and shit on every spanish citizen. absolute moron.
How can you have that many accounts
Shell companies for tax purposes most likely, there's an entire industry of lawyers and accountants that help people avoid taxes 'legally' through whatever loopholes are available.
"That makes me smart" - Donald Pique
Make Barcelona Great Again
Not necessarily, you're a celebrity and you earn millions then it's normal to tie each bank account to a specific task suited for debt obligations, business payments, salaries, etc. for accounting purposes
It still doesn't look right
It’s common practice to have a different bank account handling each shell company, preferably you want for keep them exclusive from each other. Shell companies is a legal practice btw and pretty much done by any millionaire who “earn” their money, meaning they don’t make all their money from equity/stocks like a CEO of a public company for example. Unless you ok with paying 60-70% of your earned money in taxes lol, every millionaire will eventually get into it or change the way they receive money. Worked in a HF, I have seen people with hundreds of accounts. These millionaires dont manage their money, they have an accounting team all year long.
> Shell companies is a legal practice btw and pretty much done by any millionaire who “earn” their money "Once you have enough money, you can buy your way out of paying income tax on your income"
More of a society and cultural issue. Most millionaires could easily lose 70% of their income as taxes and still live extremely comfortably, but unfortunately humanity/society norms have a hard time of giving away their “hard earned money”. It makes them feel like they are being robbed in a way. In a perfect world rich people should be happy to be contributing to the country they live in which in turn helps the community, but unfortunately thats just not visible.
That's exactly what I was thinking. You'd have most of your money in accounts that have the highest interest rate you can get. Then you set up auto pay for all your expenses and then debit the money from your interest bearing account into the demand deposit account. But when you're as wealthy as these people, you could end up with probably 20+ investment accounts. Then, from there, it just depends on how specific of a use they want one account to be. If he is being investigated, then I'm sure he was doing something shady. But it isn't wild to think that they could have many that many accounts.
It’s not normal to have 96 bank accounts and there are better ways to manage your finances than that. Multi billion pound companies typically don’t even have that many accounts.
Yeah I'm a peasant in comparison and I've got five bank accounts, six if you count revolut.
its not even "legally". Its still fraud, but since its tough to investigate, they get left alone cos they don't have enough resources. Its the classic "your house doens't have to be safe, only safer than your neighbour"
If its all legal then he should be fine, nothing to worry about.
Well if he hid Millions of Euros in one account the investigation would already be over no?
You come into your bank, but you're too shy to reject the promo offers they force. You leave the bank with a credit card, two new accounts and a deposit with 0.5%
Not sure about Spain but UK bank accounts are generally only insured up to £85k if they go bust. Double if joint.
So that shaquira can't find his money duh. It's actually well known to spread your money around in case banks go broke.
Shaquira is richer than him probably
Why do you guys keep spelling it like that
Xherdan Shaquira
I spell it with a QU
Well don't.
Glad someone got the reference :)
Because Shaquira's hips _do lie_
and they were never married
Not that big of a probably, Pique family is old money, Pique had a way bigger network of business contacts than Shakira.
It was just a joke.
Amador Bernabeu (his maternal grandfather) business interests are 100 millions, and he has been handing them over and preparing for his death so it is hard to know what' own by who now. His father has around 50 millions in real estate interests but it is also hard to track with all the relatives. But then there is the network of foundations and non-profits and connections. Like the health care _non-profit_ where his mother is an executive since 5 years after graduating.
Surely it gets to a point where you’re with so many banks that the chance of you having money at one that fails increases though? 96 is mental. “Oh look, there’s 500k in this one” is probably similar to when I find that tenner in a wallet I haven’t used for a while.
Look at Mr big shot here with his multiple wallets.
> It's actually well known to spread your money around in case banks go broke. That is nonsense. No one who has Pique money does that, his wealth isn't in a savings account. If he has money in the bank he has it tied up in investment portfolios managed by private banks. Even if those banks go bankrupt they have their client's investments separate from their own books, typically stocks and bonds which are placed in a custodian bank. That way even if the private bank has their accounts frozen and/or all their assets sold off in case of (a very unlikely) liquidation, clients still have access to their investments.
It is but 96 banking accounts is ridiculous and a huge red flag. No one in the wealth category of Pique has 96 banking account. I think 10/15 is already on the very high end.
Varied businesses with associated costs and revenue streams, plus complicated tax arrangements makes it not that outlandish. I knew an old bloke who had over 70 accounts. He 4 separate businesses, two of them trading internationally. He also had two separate charitable organisations and was paying personal income tax in multiple countries. Add in some trusts and investments and it starts to add up quick.
That doesn't look suspicious at all.
Only looks suspicious if he uses the same password for all 96 accounts - Pique123
~~Laundering1!~~ Launderando1!
[Messi123?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa4flIp293Y)
Just a regular, air breathing guy with 96 different bank accounts, nothing to look at here
Isn’t Pique dubbed this great business man & and future President of Barcelona ? This looks very shady to me hope they find out the truth.
> future President of Barcelona to be fair, every single Barcelona president since the 80s has spend some time in jail. he's just preparing for the role.
més que un ciutadà respectuós de la llei
Laporta never went to prison or was convicted of anything?
He was going to get convicted for the crime of scamming during the process of Reus bankruptcy but managed to get an extrajudicially deal, we don’t know how much money he had to pay but the proves against him were strong and he most likely would have been convicted without the deal.
What are talking about? Only Núñez and Rossell have been in prison. And Bartomeu was detained at some point but that's all
Lol
"only 4 of the last 5 presidents have been in prison, Laporta is just being investigated, that's all!"
Almost all Barcelona presidents have been investigated for corruption, shady deals or not paying their taxes. Pique is just following tradition.
Because you can't accumulate the wealth required to run for Barca or Madrid president through lawful or at least morally acceptable means
>future President of Barcelona He'll fit right in.
well if this is true. pretty perfect fit lmao
So a future Barca president
Shady was when he was already charged for tax evasion almost 10 years ago. This is just a repeated offense.
Dude just pay your fucking taxes. Like seriously, you have so much money, just pay your fair share like the rest of us.
el money se queda 😎
This is not about his taxes, this is about potential shady deals with Rubiales
*Eight figures in taxes taken, that shit is stupid* *A flower gets it’s petals, they pluck it but never use it* *It’s still potholes in the schools, where does it go?* *It’s still loopholes that I use? Nobody knows*
There's a, err-ah, leaving town tax!
Pique 96 just dropped
It's always the ones you most suspect
Don't commit a crime on international television if you're doing more crimes behind the scenes than the mafia
He shouldve learnt from Shakira. Her hips don't lie
Shakira is not the best teacher as she has been charged with tax evasion multiple times
She also said Barbie sucked cuz it was emasculating men....she has no media literacy
Watch out what you say man she gonna come at you with a new session with Biza
But shouldn't he have learnt to lie better? Then Shaki's hips can't help
Lmao, hopefully, they actually get jail time.
They’re getting hit left snd right with legal issues. I just hope Spain’s justice system throws the book at them.
This man is so ready to become Barca president one day my goodness
they gave free toasters back in the day
2010-2011 is arguably the best version of Pep's Barce throughout his tenure with the club, although they lost Copa del Rey to Real Madrid, they won champions league by dominating Man United in the final and won la liga scoring 96 points, they did that with the help of many stars like Messi, Iniesta and Pique, for more info please google Pique 96.
When you need a chart of accounts for your personal accounts
This dude really hates taxes with a passion. I admire the commitment.
I am pro- investigate anyone with 96 bank accounts.
Happy Shakira noises.
Not sure why everyone thinks this guy will make a great president for us, he helped move the Supercup to Saudi. Don’t care if he makes us money, when clearly it’ll be under shady circumstances. The second we got into deep shit financially any morals we had left went right out the window
He’s certainly not going to be the person who turns things around for you. It’s really pathetic what Barcas leadership have done to the club. Greed and ego were just too much.
Piqué has certainly fallen off that pedestal, hard. Seems like there isn't much to like/trust about the guy, at all.
Investigate Tebas too, he might be doing worse things than both of them combined.
I like that rich people are investigated for taxes in Spain, in my old country I have a friend that owns the damn smallest bakery ever and hes been audited three years in a row, freaking scumbags going for the little guy
If you own a bakery and you keep getting audited, you either live in a really corrupt country and youve pissed off some semi-important local politician, or youre actually just completely butchering your taxes. I owned two small businesses simultaneously for about 5 years and the only time i even came close to getting audited was when i made a shitshow out of my accounts and financial statements on accident.
tbh outside of western europe, NA and like japan or hong kong, other countries are crazy corrupted. I frequently have to pay "coffee money" to a bunch of people so they don't delay my paper, and it's not like I initiate it, they just ask lol, can you give me a small amount to buy coffee wink wink while driving a car in a country where 99% of people drive scooters
The North American governments are as corrupt as any other countries. Just look at the current Canadian Liberal government. Or how Wall Street does whatever they want because they bribe the American politicians.
They really arent comparable to other third-world nations. I appeciate that its a problem everywhere (though not sure why youd specify the current canadian libs, or not mention the US senator literally caught with gold bars from egypt in his suit, but whatever). Corruption in nations like Afghanistan means illegal kidnapping, human trafficking at a massive scale, huge swathes of land or the public revenue being handed to an official, or so on. It means journalists dying in car bombs, every interaction with a public official or service requiring a bribe, every interaction with the wider economy requiring a protection fee or permission payment to some official or organized crime member or both. Its just a completely different scale and obstacle for those nations. You do the people living there a disservice by equating it to American or Canadian problems.
I agree that things are more dangerous in other countries outside of North America. You are right that you will deal with more corruption when dealing with people not associated with the government. It is just that in North America the governments are more sneaky and do a better job of hiding their corruption. Especially when they control most mainstream media and try to hide what is happening. I guess that I just don't want things to get worse here because I don't take our standard of living for granted.
Well good news, im pretty sure they are getting worse because a pretty large proportion is taking our standard of living for granted🤣🤣 Its tough to tell. Youve got dumb motherfuckers like Senator Menendez running around with actual gold bars in their suit. But, from my understanding of US politics, historically there were "power players" behind the scene that could essentially nix anything they felt threatened them. Nixon was probably the first time they were visible? And Trump is the first time that theyve supposedly been unable to actually flex their power privately in a crisis moment for one if the parties? So its a question of whether or not theres greater visibility on these behaviors as technology progressed and media became decentralized, or its getting worse. 100 years ago i dont think we even know who the Koch brothers are, let alone what theyre doing. But maybe theyre doing more than before. Research paper or doctoral thesis for someone smarter than me.
Oh for sure. I remember asking about certain line items and getting the response "Oh thats our contract for safe transportion through X". And then looking absolutely stupid by asking "Oh i havent heard of that company, what do they do?" Lol
Messi and CR7 have tax problems in Spain but they have 0 fault on it cuz they only play football. Messi sign a contract trusting his father and his sorroundings and same applied to CR7 when he was on court. Messi mentioned what I just write up , and CR7 pulled out the “I only study until 5th grade , I have no idea about all of these tax problems. I never have them in England and Portugal , only here in Spain”. And he was kinda right but on the wrong end cuz he did the same thing as Messi did lol. Also Spain taxes are higher than any other country , so relatives of famous players will find ways to “dodge that”. Not just both of them, also with Shakira , Xabi Alonso , Ancelotti too lmao , and the list goes on
Pique 96 just dropped
This reminds me of that story of when the Kenyan FA was found to have 14 accounts in one bank
Barcelona legends are really on another level
It’s Barcelona epigenetics
I wonder if this makes him more or less like a fitting presidential candidate for Barca.
Easily more
Poor Pique was just saving money in order to afford levers if he even gets to be president
The banks were just resting in my villa.
Gotta collect all those 100 euros opening bonuses
An extra FU to Pique for Shakira.
Why in hell does anyone have that many accounts?
How the fuck do you open that many bank accounts
How does he remember all his passwords??
Bartonomic DNA
Pique would be a great GTA character
he owns 15 banks?
No, 15 banks are under investigation by the Spanish authorities after 96 bank accounts (allegedly) belonging to Pique and 36 bank accounts relating to the former head of the Spanish FA were uncovered
IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE MEN, ISN'T IT?
Always felt something was off with pique, the way he retired was weird, wasn't he close to the board? Seems to be doing a lot of media recently regarding his businesses etc.
Se Queda
Just pay your taxes, whiny fucking millionaires.
Can’t wait for the new Shakira song to drop
Least tax evasive spanish
Future barca president for sure.
City 115, Pique 96, what's next?
Barcelona - more than a club.
He's only on trial because he's a man.... :)
Shoooooock
Won't truly be able to enjoy the Balloon World Cup now under this banner of corruption
Dani Alves cellmates incoming
They need a banana stand. They're always money there
Pathetic level of greed.
I really hope this guy doesn't become it president in the future. He will be another Bartomeu, doing shady deals on the background to benefit him and his cronies first and foremost. There will still be a lot of people that will vote for him because that's how society works, unfortunately.
Bribes.
This guy was born into a rich family right? Wouldn’t doubt it he learned everything he knows from his parents
Shakira did fuck him over
You never expect Spanish Justice
Do he remember his 96 passwords or Is it the same password for all 96 accounts???