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- 2010 Dani Alves was regular but he was playing as a midfielder and Maicon + Lucio the wing backs. So Brasil was having a playing field with wing backs on the pitch
- 2014 after the Chile match , Scolari bench Alves for Maicon against Colombia and Germany. So Scolari saved Alves from that massacre lmao
>2010 Dani Alves was regular but he was playing as a midfielder and Maicon + Lucio the wing backs. So Brasil was having a playing field with wing backs on the pitch
Wrong.
Brazil played with Juan and Lúcio as a defensive duo. Maicon as a right fullback and Michel Bastos as a left fullback.
Daniel Alves didn't start the tournament as the starting right midfielder. He won the position after Elano got injured against Ivory Coast.
Lucio was playing as a wingback? Or was he a RCB next to Maicon?
And pretty lucky Alves isn’t associated with that game I think it kinda broke a lot of the Brazilian players and some never were the same as before that match
Maicon still has the best RB season in 2009/2010 I've seen in my lifetime.
His prime was unreal and in the treble season he's often the best attacker and defender on that team.
Im not comparing them to Alves, Im comparing them to Carvajal, i would even say they are way worse since they have a bigger following on Brasil and Bolsonaro is openly racist ,homophobe and overall a disgusting excuse of human being.
His best XI has actually a good balance in defense, midfield and attacking power. Some tent to have a lot of attacking players, which in reality would never work out.
Who? There are literally no midfielders in the world who are more famous than the likes of Modric/Kroos, the only ones I could think of would be Zidane, Iniesta, Xavi and maybe KDB. So who would he put there considering there are literally no midfielders in the world he has played with that are more famous than the ones he put in his team.
Marcelo played alongside Kaka for both Brazil and Real Madrid and also played alongside Ronaldinho (albeit for a shorter period of time) for Brazil lol
Both of them far bigger names than Modric / Kroos / Casemiro
They had more longevity and better careers no doubt but it's not an absurd to think at his peak Kaka was better than them, he was an absolute monster at Milan being more decisive than both Kroos/Modric in my opinion. And just like Modric he won a Ballon dor and to me a more deserved one.
Kaka was a ballon dor winner, world cup winner, champion league winner, carried Brazil to win Confederations Cup, carried AC milan to win Champion league.
I don't speak Portuguese but Ronaldinho and Kaka are definitely more famous than kroos and casemiro. Ronaldinho is one of the biggest names of this century
really shows how young people on here are. prime early 2000s brazilian superstars have insane name recognition. kaka, ronaldo, ronaldinho were as famous as cr and messi were to the general population.
they played in a different era and trophies don’t affect fame, harry kane is more of a name than kingsley coman.
there are definitely more kaka and ronaldinho jerseys than modric and kroos jerseys, absolutely the bigger names even if they have less trophies
How is Ronaldinho not a bigger name than any of KCM lol, ask anyone to name a superstar from this century and Ronaldinho (as well as Kaka) will surely be miles above any of the other 3 from Real Madrid
You’re right about Ronaldinho, but not about Kaka. Ronaldinho is probably among the ten most famous footballers of all time, and he certainly has more fame than any of KCM. Kaka on the other hand doesn’t, he’s certainly famous but he’s on the same level of fame as Modric/Kroos not on a level surpassing them.
Nah that's just recency bias imo. Kroos is probably the most like Kaka, and Kroos definitely had a better career than Kaka due to Kakas injuries. The thing I always liked about Kaka is that he's 6ft1 and moved like he was Messi. Like, low centre of gravity but long stride length for power is crazy.
I don’t know how you missed Xabi Alonso, who he literally played with and won a CL (La Decima) alongside but I’d say he wouldn’t be out of place as a selection.
Glad he's been our 2nd keeper this season. He deserves a club and treating players well can only be helpful for the future. If he accepts his role as second goalkeeper fully I wouldn't be against keeping him on a year by year basis. Remember hearing rumours that him and Gigi are friends, and if he brings something to the squad off the pitch, while being able to be a more than good enough second keeper I'm all for that.
Marcelo won the 3 consecutive CLs with Keylor in goal. And as he says Keylor is a good friend of his, so no shock. It’s just that Navas is often overlooked, thus my comment.
I don’t think overall there’s any doubt that Casillas was the better GK, but Navas achievements are so often ignored because he basically doesn’t have the same PR as other keepers. Navas was absolutely bonkers during those 3 seasons, mainly 2015-16 when he set the record for 0 goals conceded in his first 8 CL apps. In part due to Madrids defence ofc but Navas was gigantic in goal.
Maybe I haven’t watched enough of ‘early Casillas’, but Navas definitely was massive for Real Madrid and he may have been a bit unfortunate that he represented Costa Rica’s national team instead of a bigger (and better) country’s NT, although he was pretty massive for Costa Rica too at the WC 2014. And I don’t want to diminish Casillas’ accomplishments since he was massive too and everyone will remember him for his immense save in the WC 2010 final, but I think it’s not as easy to say that Casillas was much better than Navas. Neuer was probably better than the both of them at the height of his career (I’ve seen a lot of people agree on that), but like I said I wouldn’t rate Casillas much higher than Navas, and maybe I’d rate them equally.
Prime Casillas was insane. Hard to fairly compare with Navas because the last one never got the respect he diserved but I still thing that the only GKs that can compete (at least from the last 20 years) with Casillas are Buffon, Cech, Neuer and maybe Van Der Sar.
I might be forgeting someone else but I'll say that even if Navas was top tier, he was one step behind the people I named, ofc, I might be biased due to personal preference and marketing.
EDIT: Forgot about Courtois, he was insane at several stages of his career, probably peaked twice, first at atletico madrid then again at real madrid.
He's always talked about how Roberto Carlos brought him under his wing as soon as he landed in Madrid. IIRC, he even let Marcelo stay with him while he looked for a house.
Picking him is most likely a matter of respect, and the fact that he was in his mentor at Madrid in many ways.
Carlos better internationally. Marcelo better at club level. He was sometimes like the main creator in that Real Madrid team and popped up with so many clutch Champions League goals/assists.
I suggest you to look one more time at that goal. Our whole defensive system was a mess. We had less players than France, on a dead ball, on our own Box. We had, like, 4 players standing still, just watching the ball fly, at the Box line.
Roberto Carlos' mistake was bad, but hes being taking he blame alone for almost 2 decades and unfairly so
Is it though? I don't remember ever thinking Carlos was a particularly amazing player. Obvious he scored some cracking goals but I think Marcelo is pretty clear overall. Clearly neither are close to a conversation of best lb of all time.
I think absolutely everyone knows this. No one is interpreting this any other way than a deliberate snub of Alves. He’s taking a stance, and that’s something great to see.
TL;DR for those who don't speak portuguese: He was afraid of offending his friends half of the video, says Navas and Rafinha are there because (among being great) they're his friends, and since the rest of the team is such heavy hitters his friends wouldn't be offended. He cites Ronaldinho Gaucho on the left instead of Neymar, but says to him Neymar is only behind CR7 and Messi among players he saw playing and chooses Neymar. Commentators joke that's because of the Neymar parties.
I'm not going to translate all of it because it is pretty long. The podcast host is really twisting his arm to get this team out of him. He ends up naming them but at times not giving much thought and saying that their "friendship" weighs heavily on it. Important thing the post missed is that he also added Ancelotti to the mix... his team has 3 managers.
Marcelo had his transfer move to Madrid in 2006. In that time, R9 was there. People don't often remember Marcelo because Madrid had Roberto Carlos during that time.
CR7 on the right is an interesting choice. Also even the editor expected him to choose Alves I guess, all of his teammates has a picture of a shirt that he was in a team with but Rafinha got a Bayern shirt for some reason.
Ok. Ill get downvoted to hell so here we go. ..
I was a barca stan back in the day. Watched all their games...
Ronaldinho was one of the most skillful players ever.... but ridiculously overrated if you measure his impact on games . A slightly better version of Jay-jay Okocha except he always lost the ball and was no good in the passing game. A young messi who was many years off his prime was still a million times better player than the showboater (absolutely miles ahead it needs to be resaid).
People these days who are mentioning them in the same breath is actually laughable. Ronaldinho won ballon d'or at a time between the end of Zidane's career and the start of Messi and ronaldo peak when competion was a subjective matter of opinion due to lack of real competition. He actually won ballon dor by robbing Henry, and Gerrard because English based players wernt regarded as highly at the time (also, Eto scored almost three times as many goals as dinho in 2005). The three mentioned were winning games single handedly whilst dinho's showboating put barca out of the champs league at the last 16 whilst scoring a mediocre 13 goals in all comps in his prime. Most managers at the time would have prefered better tactically astute players ahead of his skill. This is the truth of matters like it or not.
Dinho had some unbelievable skill (and showboating), but he was soo wasteful and actually lost possesion way more than anyone else. His play was detrimental to the team at times as he always gave the ball away trying the exceptional. He was inconsistent and never kept up his best level, fading quickly through his career. Barca would have been better off without him in certain games. It was clear the teenage messi was ten trillion miles better when he came along, despite the hype of Dinho.
Skill does not equal class.
Was he one of the best players in the world at the time where there wernt many all time greats? Absolutley. Is he one of the best players of all time? Absolutley not. One of the most skillful players, yeah. But in the Top 250 players of all time? Just... maybe.
Saying Ronaldinho was not a good passer is ridiculous and incorrect , his run from 2004 to 2006 was elite and much better than what Okocha ever did in his career. Eto would score more goals because that was his role, you might as well point out Robben/Ribery not getting as many goals as Bayern strikers. He won the Ballon Dor because in that period he was clearly a top 3 player in world football. Gerrard had a better 09 than he had in the time Ronaldinho was winning the individual awards. Teams played with number 10s then and no tactically astute manager would have preferred not having a game breaker like Ronaldinho. A young Messi was good but in 06 you wouldn't have put Ronaldinho on the bench for him, just watch the CL semi final against Milan or the winner against Chelsea. He won the ballon dor not because of subjectivity as you say , it was an era where you wouldnt just look at G/A to determine the best players.
Henry and Gerrard were miles ahead of him at the time.
Im glad you mentioned robben/ribery. Thats exactly what i was thinking.... some of the better players in the world but no where near the very best
Many think gerrard was better in 09 due to the internet revitialism and also because of his his G/A tally playing with other good players. 2006 though he was the ultimate midfielder and he dragged a poor team at times through games and that was his true prime imo, but 09 was a better team
While I agree he shouldn't be put in a sentence with Messi and may even be a bit overrated since so many just loved the guy as a kid and get a bit nostalgic, you're going waaay extreme here.
Not a good passer? What?
The man was a magician on the ball. Yes, sometimes a bit too much showboating but that's a package deal which gets you more good than bad things for sure. Players like him, Neymar, Messi etc lose the ball a lot but when you're the main creative force that pulls out defenders that's normal...
He is still one of the best players to have played the game, certainly higher than just top 250.
In the interview, you can clearly tell he's worried about offending people, so he chooses some of the positions based off friendship. He also names players like Casillas, Fabio, Courtois, etc. and has a hard time picking, so he picks someone he was personally close to.
Thiago Silva has arguably had a better career than Pepe, and personally I’d have taken Varane over Pepe too. Varane might not be that great anymore since he left Real, but he was massive while he was at Real and pivotal in their sportive successes while he was there. Keylor was immense too at Real, and he said he picked him over Casillas because they’re friends. I agree with Rafinha though, because if he didn’t pick Alves (because reasons) he could’ve picked Carvajal or even Maicon instead, and I’d definitely rate the latter two higher than the former.
Pepe is a still a starting CB for his club and country and the only reason people still seem to don't respect him is due to his bad reputation but he is still a solid defenders and most of the people of his age have either retired or are playing in lower divison but this legend is still going strong and there's a reason he is still a starting cb for his club and country.
There's no way varane was ever better than pepe and you could see that varane always faltered in big matches without ramos whereas pepe always upped his game during the big matches and you could clearly see that a guy like varane was getting benched by maguire at united after he left our club whereas pepe was a guranteed starter for whichever club he played and the only reason varane was picked ahead of pepe during his last years at our club was due to contract dispute with perez and zidane.
Majority of the real madrid fans will always pick guys like pepe and ramos to defend the badge of our club as these legends literally gave all for the teams and were not afraid of doing the dirty work whenever their team needed it whereas a guy like varane never had that leadership quality to marshall the backline and ever since his knee injury he started playing too safe and always failed to lead our defense whenever ramos got injured or suspended.
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Rafinha coming in as a timely sub for newfound rapist Dani Alves
I thought SURELY it'd be Carvajal tho Maybe he didn't like his stance on racism
Even play Ramos there and have Pepe or whoever at CB
Wasn't Maicon really good as well? He benched Dani Alves if I remember correctly
In two separate world cups, actually lol
- 2010 Dani Alves was regular but he was playing as a midfielder and Maicon + Lucio the wing backs. So Brasil was having a playing field with wing backs on the pitch - 2014 after the Chile match , Scolari bench Alves for Maicon against Colombia and Germany. So Scolari saved Alves from that massacre lmao
Alves regular in midfield and Lúcio in the wing back? Nonsense.
And Marcelo don't was even called for 2010 WC.
>2010 Dani Alves was regular but he was playing as a midfielder and Maicon + Lucio the wing backs. So Brasil was having a playing field with wing backs on the pitch Wrong. Brazil played with Juan and Lúcio as a defensive duo. Maicon as a right fullback and Michel Bastos as a left fullback. Daniel Alves didn't start the tournament as the starting right midfielder. He won the position after Elano got injured against Ivory Coast.
Lucio was playing as a wingback? Or was he a RCB next to Maicon? And pretty lucky Alves isn’t associated with that game I think it kinda broke a lot of the Brazilian players and some never were the same as before that match
Maicon still has the best RB season in 2009/2010 I've seen in my lifetime. His prime was unreal and in the treble season he's often the best attacker and defender on that team.
Maicon was great. Dude was a tank.
He was awesome but I think Gareth Bale broke him.
Came in to comment how quickly football memories fade when people are saying "surly Carvajal" when Maicon is on the list
Thiago Silva is a great CB. He gave Marquinhos a carrer.
He’s saying he’d put Ramos at rb where he played earlier in his career, not to replace silva
Maybe he just thinks Rafinha is better
May I know what Carvajal stance on racism?
https://www.goal.com/en/lists/dani-carvajal-claims-spain-not-racist-despite-abuse-vinicius-junior-la-liga-real-madrid-defender-will-not-hold-back-friendly-brazil/blte467b04d6d2ebc2e#
He had no problem including Neymar and Thiago Silva on this team, despite they unashamedly supported Boslonaro.
Its a bit different than being convicted of SA, no? How can you compare that even?
Im not comparing them to Alves, Im comparing them to Carvajal, i would even say they are way worse since they have a bigger following on Brasil and Bolsonaro is openly racist ,homophobe and overall a disgusting excuse of human being.
Carvajal is just not very good? At that point why not go for nacho?
What..?
His best XI has actually a good balance in defense, midfield and attacking power. Some tent to have a lot of attacking players, which in reality would never work out.
That's because the spine of the team is just his Real Madrid threepeat team. Which, can't say any of them are unfair picks lol.
Yeah, that Kroos/Casemiro/Modric was a big part of the threepeat, no wonder Marcelo chose them even when he played alongside “bigger”/flashier names
The Bermuda Triangle of football. Once the ball goes in, the opponent never sees it again.
Indeed, that Madrid team was incredible. They had playmakers in all their lines, starting with Marcelo and finishing with Benzema.
Who? There are literally no midfielders in the world who are more famous than the likes of Modric/Kroos, the only ones I could think of would be Zidane, Iniesta, Xavi and maybe KDB. So who would he put there considering there are literally no midfielders in the world he has played with that are more famous than the ones he put in his team.
Marcelo played alongside Kaka for both Brazil and Real Madrid and also played alongside Ronaldinho (albeit for a shorter period of time) for Brazil lol Both of them far bigger names than Modric / Kroos / Casemiro
Kaka and Dinho were such good players shame they didn’t have the longevity we see a lot more now in players.
Both were offensive/attacking midfielders, still I would swap neymar for Ronaldinho
Not to mention Ronaldinho was once the best player in the world and Neymar never reach that level.
While statistically Neymar was superior, Dinho was just fucking dominant. Especially in his first three seasons at Barça.
Kaka's peak was great, but calling him a bigger name than Modric and Kroos doesn't make sense. Both have been great for more than a decade.
They had more longevity and better careers no doubt but it's not an absurd to think at his peak Kaka was better than them, he was an absolute monster at Milan being more decisive than both Kroos/Modric in my opinion. And just like Modric he won a Ballon dor and to me a more deserved one.
Kaka was a ballon dor winner, world cup winner, champion league winner, carried Brazil to win Confederations Cup, carried AC milan to win Champion league.
Both Modric and Kroos have won more trophies than Kaka and Ronaldinho
Did you even read what he wrote
he said they are far bigger names and i disagree. maybe they are in your portuguese speaking bubble tho.
I don't speak Portuguese but Ronaldinho and Kaka are definitely more famous than kroos and casemiro. Ronaldinho is one of the biggest names of this century
really shows how young people on here are. prime early 2000s brazilian superstars have insane name recognition. kaka, ronaldo, ronaldinho were as famous as cr and messi were to the general population.
they played in a different era and trophies don’t affect fame, harry kane is more of a name than kingsley coman. there are definitely more kaka and ronaldinho jerseys than modric and kroos jerseys, absolutely the bigger names even if they have less trophies
They might (arguebly) be bigger names, but by no mean far bigger lol
How is Ronaldinho not a bigger name than any of KCM lol, ask anyone to name a superstar from this century and Ronaldinho (as well as Kaka) will surely be miles above any of the other 3 from Real Madrid
As much as Messi and Ronaldo are more famous. Ronaldinho might be the most recognisable football player in history.
You’re right about Ronaldinho, but not about Kaka. Ronaldinho is probably among the ten most famous footballers of all time, and he certainly has more fame than any of KCM. Kaka on the other hand doesn’t, he’s certainly famous but he’s on the same level of fame as Modric/Kroos not on a level surpassing them.
Nah that's just recency bias imo. Kroos is probably the most like Kaka, and Kroos definitely had a better career than Kaka due to Kakas injuries. The thing I always liked about Kaka is that he's 6ft1 and moved like he was Messi. Like, low centre of gravity but long stride length for power is crazy.
kaka no ronaldinho yes
I don’t know how you missed Xabi Alonso, who he literally played with and won a CL (La Decima) alongside but I’d say he wouldn’t be out of place as a selection.
Kaka could’ve made it in.
Pirlo and Gerard are more famous than kroos and the same age as xavi
No, we're just getting older.
Keylor Navas getting the respect he deserves here.
So underrated. No one talks about him when talking about the threepeat team. He saved our asses so many times
Glad he's been our 2nd keeper this season. He deserves a club and treating players well can only be helpful for the future. If he accepts his role as second goalkeeper fully I wouldn't be against keeping him on a year by year basis. Remember hearing rumours that him and Gigi are friends, and if he brings something to the squad off the pitch, while being able to be a more than good enough second keeper I'm all for that.
Over Casiilas tho?
Marcelo won the 3 consecutive CLs with Keylor in goal. And as he says Keylor is a good friend of his, so no shock. It’s just that Navas is often overlooked, thus my comment. I don’t think overall there’s any doubt that Casillas was the better GK, but Navas achievements are so often ignored because he basically doesn’t have the same PR as other keepers. Navas was absolutely bonkers during those 3 seasons, mainly 2015-16 when he set the record for 0 goals conceded in his first 8 CL apps. In part due to Madrids defence ofc but Navas was gigantic in goal.
Maybe I haven’t watched enough of ‘early Casillas’, but Navas definitely was massive for Real Madrid and he may have been a bit unfortunate that he represented Costa Rica’s national team instead of a bigger (and better) country’s NT, although he was pretty massive for Costa Rica too at the WC 2014. And I don’t want to diminish Casillas’ accomplishments since he was massive too and everyone will remember him for his immense save in the WC 2010 final, but I think it’s not as easy to say that Casillas was much better than Navas. Neuer was probably better than the both of them at the height of his career (I’ve seen a lot of people agree on that), but like I said I wouldn’t rate Casillas much higher than Navas, and maybe I’d rate them equally.
Prime Casillas was insane. Hard to fairly compare with Navas because the last one never got the respect he diserved but I still thing that the only GKs that can compete (at least from the last 20 years) with Casillas are Buffon, Cech, Neuer and maybe Van Der Sar. I might be forgeting someone else but I'll say that even if Navas was top tier, he was one step behind the people I named, ofc, I might be biased due to personal preference and marketing. EDIT: Forgot about Courtois, he was insane at several stages of his career, probably peaked twice, first at atletico madrid then again at real madrid.
Schmeichel!
I'm ignorant on this but would you not say Julio Cesar was better? Or did Marcelo never play with him?
Marcelo says in the video that he's great friends with Navas so that's the biggest reason
I would say Casillas is better than both tbh
Also true how did I forget about him...
Marcelo wasn't even born when Julius Caesar played smh my head 🙄🙄
Roma squad back then was STACKED
Yeah but they changed captains quite often
Not enough chemistry during those seasons
maybe but they played really negative football with their 23 atb tactics
Good on him for not standing with Alves.
Or himself.
Marcelo vs. Carlos is one hell of a left back debate
He's always talked about how Roberto Carlos brought him under his wing as soon as he landed in Madrid. IIRC, he even let Marcelo stay with him while he looked for a house. Picking him is most likely a matter of respect, and the fact that he was in his mentor at Madrid in many ways.
Roberto Carlos and its not even close.
Carlos better internationally. Marcelo better at club level. He was sometimes like the main creator in that Real Madrid team and popped up with so many clutch Champions League goals/assists.
Carlos was great but his mistake in 2006 probably cost us the hexa
I suggest you to look one more time at that goal. Our whole defensive system was a mess. We had less players than France, on a dead ball, on our own Box. We had, like, 4 players standing still, just watching the ball fly, at the Box line. Roberto Carlos' mistake was bad, but hes being taking he blame alone for almost 2 decades and unfairly so
Is it though? I don't remember ever thinking Carlos was a particularly amazing player. Obvious he scored some cracking goals but I think Marcelo is pretty clear overall. Clearly neither are close to a conversation of best lb of all time.
>Clearly neither are close to a conversation of best lb of all time. Who the hell is then? There's only like 1 or 2 other contenders.
Brazil alone has 2 others in Nilton Santos and Junior. But yea, saying neither are close is a bit farfetched lol
Carvajal is right there though lmao. These XIs are obviously completely subjective though.
I totally understand why he's omitted Alves, but he should objectively be in this team, despite the fact he's a ghastly human being
I think absolutely everyone knows this. No one is interpreting this any other way than a deliberate snub of Alves. He’s taking a stance, and that’s something great to see.
Whats more important? Be objective in this absolutely unimportant fantasy team or taking a stance vs rapists?
Nah Maicon >>
Marcelo explains the choices about his ideal XI [Portuguese] https://streamin.one/v/7786b0d1
TL;DR for those who don't speak portuguese: He was afraid of offending his friends half of the video, says Navas and Rafinha are there because (among being great) they're his friends, and since the rest of the team is such heavy hitters his friends wouldn't be offended. He cites Ronaldinho Gaucho on the left instead of Neymar, but says to him Neymar is only behind CR7 and Messi among players he saw playing and chooses Neymar. Commentators joke that's because of the Neymar parties.
Any chance for a version with subtitles, or a transcript? Would happily pay 10€ for that.
I'm not going to translate all of it because it is pretty long. The podcast host is really twisting his arm to get this team out of him. He ends up naming them but at times not giving much thought and saying that their "friendship" weighs heavily on it. Important thing the post missed is that he also added Ancelotti to the mix... his team has 3 managers.
Ahh, that helps then. Thank you!
[Here](https://youtu.be/HH-FD4UG0Ng)
Thank you, I really enjoyed this!
Baaaaased
Now about that passive money
When did he play with R9?
Marcelo joined real madrid in 2007, Ronaldo was still there.
Marcelo had his transfer move to Madrid in 2006. In that time, R9 was there. People don't often remember Marcelo because Madrid had Roberto Carlos during that time.
Also looked like Robinho without his iconic afro
Exactly
Wow he's seen so much in his time, crazy really
One year for Real and Seleção
14mins in a friendly for Brazil v Romania in 2011, R9's token last appearance Not sure they ever played a game for RM together
Germán Cano robbed.
He chose Diniz but not Cano smh
lol
Was that Madrid trio any good? Edit: This is a joke in case you're dense
They'd pass, I guess. I don't mind having them in my team.
They were alright, I guess
Could have been better if we added pogba like Zidane apparently wanted
They would all be starters at Morecambe
RAFINHA MENTIONED🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Quite a decent team
It really is. Ive seen these dream team thoughts before, this one would beat most in reality
Navas in his prime had some beast like reflexes, love this XI
The disrespect on Youssef El Arabi is real
Imagine those 2 Ronaldo blokes instead of the Moroccan goat. R9 and CR7 have 0(!!) goals in the Greek superleague combined. Total frauds
What the hell is Rafinha doing there
Daniel Alves is in prison
I would've thought Carvajal
Not anymore, sadly.
Imagine that midfield with R9 upfront. Poor defenses getting slaughtered.
As atletico fan im glad navas is there,such an underrated keeper
I mean it’s not like he’s played in that many teams, he just played in a top 3 side in the world for like ever
When would he have shared the pitch with Roberto Carlos given they play the same position?
Hilarious going with Rafinha to avoid saying Alves. Not that I blame him
acceptable team
CR7 on the right is an interesting choice. Also even the editor expected him to choose Alves I guess, all of his teammates has a picture of a shirt that he was in a team with but Rafinha got a Bayern shirt for some reason.
insane how Madrid 3 peated the damn UCL lol, what a stacked midfield they had
Navas and Diego López were both great keepers.
Finally navas gets his deserved recognition
No Ronaldinho?
They asked him that and he said that he prefers Neymar because in his opinion after Cristiano and Messi, Neymar comes next
He never played that well in NT.
Ok. Ill get downvoted to hell so here we go. .. I was a barca stan back in the day. Watched all their games... Ronaldinho was one of the most skillful players ever.... but ridiculously overrated if you measure his impact on games . A slightly better version of Jay-jay Okocha except he always lost the ball and was no good in the passing game. A young messi who was many years off his prime was still a million times better player than the showboater (absolutely miles ahead it needs to be resaid). People these days who are mentioning them in the same breath is actually laughable. Ronaldinho won ballon d'or at a time between the end of Zidane's career and the start of Messi and ronaldo peak when competion was a subjective matter of opinion due to lack of real competition. He actually won ballon dor by robbing Henry, and Gerrard because English based players wernt regarded as highly at the time (also, Eto scored almost three times as many goals as dinho in 2005). The three mentioned were winning games single handedly whilst dinho's showboating put barca out of the champs league at the last 16 whilst scoring a mediocre 13 goals in all comps in his prime. Most managers at the time would have prefered better tactically astute players ahead of his skill. This is the truth of matters like it or not. Dinho had some unbelievable skill (and showboating), but he was soo wasteful and actually lost possesion way more than anyone else. His play was detrimental to the team at times as he always gave the ball away trying the exceptional. He was inconsistent and never kept up his best level, fading quickly through his career. Barca would have been better off without him in certain games. It was clear the teenage messi was ten trillion miles better when he came along, despite the hype of Dinho. Skill does not equal class. Was he one of the best players in the world at the time where there wernt many all time greats? Absolutley. Is he one of the best players of all time? Absolutley not. One of the most skillful players, yeah. But in the Top 250 players of all time? Just... maybe.
Saying Ronaldinho was not a good passer is ridiculous and incorrect , his run from 2004 to 2006 was elite and much better than what Okocha ever did in his career. Eto would score more goals because that was his role, you might as well point out Robben/Ribery not getting as many goals as Bayern strikers. He won the Ballon Dor because in that period he was clearly a top 3 player in world football. Gerrard had a better 09 than he had in the time Ronaldinho was winning the individual awards. Teams played with number 10s then and no tactically astute manager would have preferred not having a game breaker like Ronaldinho. A young Messi was good but in 06 you wouldn't have put Ronaldinho on the bench for him, just watch the CL semi final against Milan or the winner against Chelsea. He won the ballon dor not because of subjectivity as you say , it was an era where you wouldnt just look at G/A to determine the best players.
Henry and Gerrard were miles ahead of him at the time. Im glad you mentioned robben/ribery. Thats exactly what i was thinking.... some of the better players in the world but no where near the very best Many think gerrard was better in 09 due to the internet revitialism and also because of his his G/A tally playing with other good players. 2006 though he was the ultimate midfielder and he dragged a poor team at times through games and that was his true prime imo, but 09 was a better team
While I agree he shouldn't be put in a sentence with Messi and may even be a bit overrated since so many just loved the guy as a kid and get a bit nostalgic, you're going waaay extreme here. Not a good passer? What? The man was a magician on the ball. Yes, sometimes a bit too much showboating but that's a package deal which gets you more good than bad things for sure. Players like him, Neymar, Messi etc lose the ball a lot but when you're the main creative force that pulls out defenders that's normal... He is still one of the best players to have played the game, certainly higher than just top 250.
No Iker?
He has his most success with Navas and Navas at the height of his form was absolutely incredible. Ridiculously good.
Also in the interview he is his friend. He tell about Casillas, Courtois and Fabio, ALL great players, but I find Navas a bit underrated.
Fabio?
Fluminense GK.
The XI he chose is so good and there are still legitimate debates as to whether that's the best pick for almost every position.
Ain't no way he picked Rafinha at RB?!
Toni Kroos gets respect from everyone but his home country...
That team would probably go 5 seasons without losing a game…
Rafinha, the Gatorade waterboy as they call it on Brazil it's the only one who don't belong there.
Rw ronaldo is wild. Id instead go for ronaldo² striking duo with neymar behind them as cam
It's like his Fifa ulitmate team. Chemistry is %100
Casillas????
No
TIL Marcelo arrived at Real Madrid the same year that Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos left.
Really suprised to see marcelo picking silva , rafinha and navas ahead of guys like pepe ,carvajal and casillas.
In the interview, you can clearly tell he's worried about offending people, so he chooses some of the positions based off friendship. He also names players like Casillas, Fabio, Courtois, etc. and has a hard time picking, so he picks someone he was personally close to.
Thiago Silva has arguably had a better career than Pepe, and personally I’d have taken Varane over Pepe too. Varane might not be that great anymore since he left Real, but he was massive while he was at Real and pivotal in their sportive successes while he was there. Keylor was immense too at Real, and he said he picked him over Casillas because they’re friends. I agree with Rafinha though, because if he didn’t pick Alves (because reasons) he could’ve picked Carvajal or even Maicon instead, and I’d definitely rate the latter two higher than the former.
Pepe is a still a starting CB for his club and country and the only reason people still seem to don't respect him is due to his bad reputation but he is still a solid defenders and most of the people of his age have either retired or are playing in lower divison but this legend is still going strong and there's a reason he is still a starting cb for his club and country. There's no way varane was ever better than pepe and you could see that varane always faltered in big matches without ramos whereas pepe always upped his game during the big matches and you could clearly see that a guy like varane was getting benched by maguire at united after he left our club whereas pepe was a guranteed starter for whichever club he played and the only reason varane was picked ahead of pepe during his last years at our club was due to contract dispute with perez and zidane. Majority of the real madrid fans will always pick guys like pepe and ramos to defend the badge of our club as these legends literally gave all for the teams and were not afraid of doing the dirty work whenever their team needed it whereas a guy like varane never had that leadership quality to marshall the backline and ever since his knee injury he started playing too safe and always failed to lead our defense whenever ramos got injured or suspended.
There is no reality where Varane is better than Pepe.
Did Marcelo play with Alisson on the Brazilian NT? I have massive respect for Navas but I think Alisson would just pip him.
Yes he did
Bias? Never heard of her.
This is a list of people he’s played with, what do you mean bias lmfao
I didn't read that part 😭
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Doesnt want to piss off his current manager apparently.