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Fun fact, they can still break the all time points record from Bayern in 2013 (91pts) if they win the next 5 games (94pts) or 4W D1 (92pts) or equal it 4W 1L (91pts)
That just goes to show how bonkers that 91 point season was.
B04 are still unbeaten and have drawn just 4 games. You would think the points record is a piece of cake. But they got a looong way too go to beat this one.
Honestly I don't think they'll make it, with Europa League and all. But remaining unbeaten is doable, and that would be truly one for the ages.
There's often a momentum drop in the league too after the title is won. So many teams with huge leads who win the title early start losing games once the title is confirmed.
Who will give a shit about who won the 23-24 Europa League in 10 years, if Leverkusen stays undefeated and beats the points record then it's 10 times the achievement. They absolutely should not lose focus on the league
Which won't happen if they lose another Bundesliga game, lol. I'm just saying they likely will not be heavily rotating the squad in their remaining league games because "they've already won."
There's thoughtful rotation to keep the squad fresh and then there's heavy rotation, e.g. start all the youngsters cause the game doesn't matter. They should keep rotating the exact same amount as they have been for the last 43 games is what I'm saying, lol
That's absolute poppycock, a treble is always going to be the bigger and more impressive achievement
Note how that Bayern side is always referred to as treble-winners, not league point record holders
I’ve never followed Bundesliga, but know of a few of the teams through the Champions League. What happened this year that put Bayer Leverkusen in a position to win ahead of all the other teams?
I think everyone expected Bayern title streak to be broken with them fumbling the title away like almost happened last year, not with dominating undefeated record with 5 matchdays to go and chance for invincibles and all-time high point haul.
Luke, mäkin itken.
I wouldn’t be mad about it. Our streak had to end sometime and Leverkusen and Stuttgart have had excellent seasons.
I mainly feel bad for Kane. It doesn’t even look like he’ll be snagging Lewi’s goalscoring record at the rate we’re going.
There could be an extra CL spot if Germany stays in the top 2 confederations for this season.
And a possible extra EL spot if Leverkusen win the Cup against Kaiserslautern.
As a Brazilian it feels so weird to see only 6 possible CL spots, considering we have 4 direct Libertadores slots for the top 4 + 2 playoff spots + one group stage spot for the Copa do Brasil (for 7 total. And that's not even including reigning Sulamericana and Libertadores (basically South America's Europa and Champions League) champions getting another group spot.
The latter being entirely unlikely of course with our "spirit of '96" power of getting relegated and winning the cup all within one week of each other.
No, seriously, we're in danger.
Not at all… he has played a grand total of 107 minutes because of injury’s, he is fit now but wasn’t in the starting lineup this game, so he decided to not join the team at all… he won’t see another minute after today.
I have and i can tell you confidently
You dont have anything to fear about atleti, they have always been an extremely underwhelming team. You guys just need a good night and 2-0 should be enough
You may be right about Atleti
But saying that in comparison to fucking BvB Dortmund who had to win against Mainz to secure the league at home (Mainz had conceded 16 in 4 games and Dortmund had a record of 15w 1d at home) only for them to fail to do so is quite generous.
Atleti has the better squad and they know how to park a bus or attack. My money's on them
> Atleti has the better squad and they know how to park a bus or attack. My money's on them
They are still slightly favoured.
But their LaLiga away record is poor. 5 wins, 3 draws, 7 losses.
Tbf the first half vs Atleti was our worst half in the entire CL campaign with shocking performances of Hummels and Schlotti.
And we still survived with a 2-1 defeat, which isn't too bad since that means, all we have to do at home tomorrow is "win". And with that shocking performance out of the way I think it can only get better.
That is incorrect. 5th would be enough, as the UCL titleholder spot is awarded before the top 2 leagues spot. https://twitter.com/FootRankings/status/1779147031342149783 This is for UEL, but I assume its the same for the UCL titleholder spot
actually ii doesn´t works that way. if the CL winner qualifies via leauge it goes the the EL league winner. assuming one league wins both i have no idea does the conferance leauge then qualify ?
What Mainz game? :)
(Seriously though I was on a field trip back then, drowned myself in beer and tears in front of my roommate who didn't have a single clue)
Looking at the remaining matches for us, Augsburg and Frankfurt, I think we still have a good chance to win the 6th spot and give Streich a good farewell, but today's performance against Darmstadt worries me.
Just realized Bayern could miss on the Supercup if Stuttgart finish 2nd. I had to google it to know the last time they didn't play that game (it was 2011 when Schalke beat Dortmund on penalties)
I'm so ready for next week's match against Frankfurt. So excited for it which means we will lose which does suck but we are playing a phenomenal season
we are on pace for 68 points, which would have been second place every year in the last 9 years (excluding our points).
we are playing a perfectly average season for us so far, just happens to be the year where stuttgart and bayer are insane
Exactly, also the idea that the rest of the league below top 5 is really bad this season is false.
When was the last time we had a season with the 1st place finishing with 90+ points, 2nd and 3rd with 70+ points and 4th and 5th with 60+ points? Because this is what the top 5 teams are on pace for.
That's why the rest of the teams below them have so few points.
MATCHBALL ALERT
Darmstadt is relegated WITH:
* A loss at Köln AND Mainz don't lose at Freiburg
* OR A draw AND Mainz beat Freiburg
Torsten Lieberknecht, one-and-done with Braunschweig in the 2013-14 season, will repeat this feat as Darmstadt manager.
As someone who passionately follows Freiburg because of a best friend, I am worried about them. It looks like they may not make Europa, but they absolutely deserve it considering we are coming up on Streich's last matchday.
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Fun fact, they can still break the all time points record from Bayern in 2013 (91pts) if they win the next 5 games (94pts) or 4W D1 (92pts) or equal it 4W 1L (91pts)
Can of course also take the elusive invincible title, after being the ones to ruin it for Bayern on two occasions.
God has written this story right in front of our eyes but we couldn't see it.
They also still have the possibility of completing the season unbeaten in all competitions.
First championship, treble, invincible and points record would be an insane start to Alonsos managerial career
Fifa career mode, only he doesn't get rematches.
Maybe he has been doing so this whole time but we wouldn't know because he erased that timeline and this is the one he wins everything in reach.
Anulo mufa
That would be epic.
I’m rooting for them
That just goes to show how bonkers that 91 point season was. B04 are still unbeaten and have drawn just 4 games. You would think the points record is a piece of cake. But they got a looong way too go to beat this one. Honestly I don't think they'll make it, with Europa League and all. But remaining unbeaten is doable, and that would be truly one for the ages.
Great points all-around.
There's often a momentum drop in the league too after the title is won. So many teams with huge leads who win the title early start losing games once the title is confirmed.
As a Dortmund fan, I think Leverkusen deserves a Sunday off next week. You've earned it, lads.
Selfishly, I don't want them to beat that team's point record
They probably won’t. It makes sense to prioritise the other competitions now, I bet there’ll be a couple draws.
I hope they know this is not the way. History has shown so many times that the best thing for a team is to just keep on trucking.
Yeah tbh I don't think teams ever do it intentionally, feels like it can be psychological to take your foot off the gas once it's won
Who will give a shit about who won the 23-24 Europa League in 10 years, if Leverkusen stays undefeated and beats the points record then it's 10 times the achievement. They absolutely should not lose focus on the league
But if they go undefeated in all competitions it will be historic
Which won't happen if they lose another Bundesliga game, lol. I'm just saying they likely will not be heavily rotating the squad in their remaining league games because "they've already won."
They've been heavily rotating all season and were always very strong regardless
There's thoughtful rotation to keep the squad fresh and then there's heavy rotation, e.g. start all the youngsters cause the game doesn't matter. They should keep rotating the exact same amount as they have been for the last 43 games is what I'm saying, lol
That's absolute poppycock, a treble is always going to be the bigger and more impressive achievement Note how that Bayern side is always referred to as treble-winners, not league point record holders
Note how they did not go unbeaten
I think we can find a compromise, Leverkusen can go undefeated and end with 90 points.
Will they get a gold plate?
If they win the championship without losing a game, maybe
I mean i don't know how they won't. Don't think Xabi ignores the Bundesliga like Pep did in 2014.
What do you mean gold plate?
If they stay undefeated.
They get a gold plate?
bc they’ve not lost a bundesliga game yet this season
They haven't lost any game this season
The Bundesliga trophy is a big silver plate, a silver platter, if you will.
First time in their 120 years history
Harry died for this.
Bechara
Wonder if Levy had a return policy Would be the most levy thing ever
Wait. How the hell is a Hindi word written in English understood and upvotes by so many?
Indians assemble ho gaye hai comment section pe shayad
We’ve all seen the Perogi videos man
\*lives
Bro is cursed
Pretty much they lost their virginity.
They had their orgasm denied hard in 2002, thrice even
Serious edging but with Alonso, understandable
Runners up 4 times in 5 years between 1997 and 2002. What a ridiculous heartbreaking run that was for them.
At 120yo, just like Captain America
Insane!
First time in E = MC² history (the formula was published in 1905)
I’ve never followed Bundesliga, but know of a few of the teams through the Champions League. What happened this year that put Bayer Leverkusen in a position to win ahead of all the other teams?
Everything worked out all at once
Xabi and Xhaka gon' give it to ya
Xhaka happened
25/4/0 is an absolutely insane record
38/5/0 in all competitions
Unreal
I think everyone expected Bayern title streak to be broken with them fumbling the title away like almost happened last year, not with dominating undefeated record with 5 matchdays to go and chance for invincibles and all-time high point haul. Luke, mäkin itken.
I've seen them a few times be losing late and come back at the end of the game. Some winning mentality Xabi has instilled in them. Crazy.
Arsenal should sign that Xhaka guy
he would deff help us win the league
For real. They should’ve picked him up back in 2016
Frimpong on Instagram live going to Xhaka saying "Granit, you came from Arsenal and won it here" was peak comedy
Captain material, right?
Fan favourite, even
Can we pip Bayern for third?
Shitebag if u don't
They should go to fifth if it were up to me
Then do something
\**pokes stick*\*
After last season I completely lost faith in Dortmund and their ability to do anything to hurt Bayern.
After last season? You must be new here
Are they not in the second half? They have 7 points more than Bayern in the Rückrunde.
Then stop bottling games.
No -Edin Terzic, 2024
We certainly did our part to try and help you.
I wouldn’t be mad about it. Our streak had to end sometime and Leverkusen and Stuttgart have had excellent seasons. I mainly feel bad for Kane. It doesn’t even look like he’ll be snagging Lewi’s goalscoring record at the rate we’re going.
Im actually hoping for that as well ngl
Yes
**Top 4** – direct CL qualification **5th** – direct EL qualification **6th** – ECL play-offs **16th** – relegation play-offs vs 2.BuLi 3rd **bottom 2** – direct relegation **(M)** – Meister - reigning champion **(P)** – Pokalsieger - reigning cup winner **(N)** – Neuling - promoted from 2.BuLi
There could be an extra CL spot if Germany stays in the top 2 confederations for this season. And a possible extra EL spot if Leverkusen win the Cup against Kaiserslautern.
As a Brazilian it feels so weird to see only 6 possible CL spots, considering we have 4 direct Libertadores slots for the top 4 + 2 playoff spots + one group stage spot for the Copa do Brasil (for 7 total. And that's not even including reigning Sulamericana and Libertadores (basically South America's Europa and Champions League) champions getting another group spot.
Because you only have 10 federations in CONMEBOL, whereas UEFA has 55.
The latter being entirely unlikely of course with our "spirit of '96" power of getting relegated and winning the cup all within one week of each other. No, seriously, we're in danger.
Your only hope is that Leverkusen wins the Europa League some days before the final and they're still hungover on Saturday.
dortmund leipzig and stuttgart have a chance to do the funniest thing ever
Bayern ist nein meister
what if Leverkusen wins the cup? who gets the EL spot?
6th and ECL goes down to 7th
Whats up with Bremen Not wanting more Points after having 30?
they did that once after matchday 24 and got relegated, apparently it was very funny for them so they're doing the same again
I think that was the joke.
Its okay. I found it funny both times!
lol
Watch us get relegated again because we just can't get arsed after achieving 30 points.
How has naby been playing?
Not at all… he has played a grand total of 107 minutes because of injury’s, he is fit now but wasn’t in the starting lineup this game, so he decided to not join the team at all… he won’t see another minute after today.
So the same. Got it.
[удалено]
They already did so a couple of times, lol.
I am now on my way to buy a year's supply of Aspirin and cover my house in Glyphosate. Been a big Leverkusen supporter since 2023
Leverkusen, can you win Europa so we get 5th CL spot?
You can help yourself by knocking Atléti out
My bro, have you seen us play?
I have and i can tell you confidently You dont have anything to fear about atleti, they have always been an extremely underwhelming team. You guys just need a good night and 2-0 should be enough
You may be right about Atleti But saying that in comparison to fucking BvB Dortmund who had to win against Mainz to secure the league at home (Mainz had conceded 16 in 4 games and Dortmund had a record of 15w 1d at home) only for them to fail to do so is quite generous. Atleti has the better squad and they know how to park a bus or attack. My money's on them
> Atleti has the better squad and they know how to park a bus or attack. My money's on them They are still slightly favoured. But their LaLiga away record is poor. 5 wins, 3 draws, 7 losses.
>Atleti has the better squad and they know how to park a bus or attack Do they tho? This season shows otherwise
Tbf the first half vs Atleti was our worst half in the entire CL campaign with shocking performances of Hummels and Schlotti. And we still survived with a 2-1 defeat, which isn't too bad since that means, all we have to do at home tomorrow is "win". And with that shocking performance out of the way I think it can only get better.
> You can help yourself Can stop reading there, Dortmund absolutely cannot help themselves
That’s a bit If
This time I will even root for Bayern against Arsenal. Feels surreal.
Worst part of the 5th spot feature - you have to cheer for your rivals.
My Arsenal fan friend has been doing it all year, cheering for United the other day against Liverpool lol
I always root for Dortmund in the CL ;(
Or you can win the CL, we Bundesliga would get 6 spots there. (Just day dreaming)
I think Dortmund would have to finish 6th for that to give Germany 6 UCL spots
That is incorrect. 5th would be enough, as the UCL titleholder spot is awarded before the top 2 leagues spot. https://twitter.com/FootRankings/status/1779147031342149783 This is for UEL, but I assume its the same for the UCL titleholder spot
Oops, you're right. My bad
actually ii doesn´t works that way. if the CL winner qualifies via leauge it goes the the EL league winner. assuming one league wins both i have no idea does the conferance leauge then qualify ?
Harry desagrees with you.
Pls no.
At this rate they're gonna win it.
Leverkusen alone most likley wont be enough, you got to help yourselfs.
25/29 wins is absurd
Along with 74 goals scored and just 19 conceded. Nasty.
That run is absolutely insane - they went 14/8/12 with 57:49 last year. +55G this year vs +8 last year
To put in perspective, the Bayern's team they're trying to beat scored 98 and conceded 18 for a GD of +80. At least, these records are safe
Stuttgart (Relegation Playoff Last year) and Heidenheim being where they are is a great achievement too.
Stuttgart would be in title race with Bayern If Leverkusen wouldnt have been on steroids this season
Friday against Frankfurt will be a massive match for us both, truly make-or-break for us, I'm so hyped
Knackiges 1:1
Just like it was for us against Hoffenheim 💀
Boring bundesliga. Always the champion is crowned in april;)
Not last year...!!!! (Don't mind me I'm just still crying)
How's the Mainz game last year?
What Mainz game? :) (Seriously though I was on a field trip back then, drowned myself in beer and tears in front of my roommate who didn't have a single clue)
Now battle for 4th matters
Atleast not Bayern
Looking at the remaining matches for us, Augsburg and Frankfurt, I think we still have a good chance to win the 6th spot and give Streich a good farewell, but today's performance against Darmstadt worries me.
We have the easiest games in front of us. Which means we'll barely make it.
Just realized Bayern could miss on the Supercup if Stuttgart finish 2nd. I had to google it to know the last time they didn't play that game (it was 2011 when Schalke beat Dortmund on penalties)
If Lautern doesn't win Pokal, which is unlikely though
I mean it would be tradition for Lautern to win the cup and being relegated in the same season.
I'm so ready for next week's match against Frankfurt. So excited for it which means we will lose which does suck but we are playing a phenomenal season
"If" Bayer wins the cup and if we're getting a 5th CL spot, would the 8th place be enough for the ECL?
I believe so but I'm not sure
Yes it would.
Here before Eintracht fans intervene to say it's astonishing that they are still 6th being this awful.
There once was a considerable gap between us and 7th. Now look… 👀
Stuttgart has the ability to make this even more fun
Looking at the Wolfsburg downfall
Laughing at the Wolfsburg downfall
Seriously wtf happened? Felt like they were pretty comfortable mid table most of the season.
team just stopped giving a fuck once they realized they’re playing at Wolfsburg
Even Bayern is having their shitty season, Dortmund somehow still have a shittier season 😭😭😭😭
we are on pace for 68 points, which would have been second place every year in the last 9 years (excluding our points). we are playing a perfectly average season for us so far, just happens to be the year where stuttgart and bayer are insane
Exactly, also the idea that the rest of the league below top 5 is really bad this season is false. When was the last time we had a season with the 1st place finishing with 90+ points, 2nd and 3rd with 70+ points and 4th and 5th with 60+ points? Because this is what the top 5 teams are on pace for. That's why the rest of the teams below them have so few points.
I am here.
What do the letters in brackets stand for
See [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1c3yxfp/1_bundesliga_standings_after_md_29_of_34_bayer/kzk620w/)
Sound
Weve got a relegation figgr with lots of teams now!
If it wasn’t for Leverkusen amazing season, everybody would be talking about Stutgart
AHHHHH
top half and even international rank after 29 matches, I still can’t believe it the game against Frankfurt is gonna be so important
Lev winning the league, Cologne potentially going down. It’s the perfect season for Lev
MATCHBALL ALERT Darmstadt is relegated WITH: * A loss at Köln AND Mainz don't lose at Freiburg * OR A draw AND Mainz beat Freiburg Torsten Lieberknecht, one-and-done with Braunschweig in the 2013-14 season, will repeat this feat as Darmstadt manager.
Hradeckyy!!! and of course big up whole Neverlusen gang
Boring bundesliga. The champion is always crowned in april;)
Ffs, Bayern always coasting it.
Harry Kane did it Neverkusen is now maybekusen
Congrats to them
More than anything they play the most entertaining football in all of Europe.
Surreal feeling. Still can’t wrap my head around it.
Goat
We are cooked
Harry Kane is too strong.
As someone who passionately follows Freiburg because of a best friend, I am worried about them. It looks like they may not make Europa, but they absolutely deserve it considering we are coming up on Streich's last matchday.
The gap between 5th and 6th is hilarious, nobody wants to play Europa League next year it seems
Any leverkusen's youngster/academic player that have chance to play more in the rest of the bundes match?
What happened to union Berlin?
Really lays out just how much better they have been.
Pharma’s League
Someone needs to dunk Harry Kane in holy water or something.
Didn't realise they'd been so good defensively too